"Invasion" by Arab Gulf Airlines.
Jan 5, 2015, 12:06 pm
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There's a story in the SF media about passengers being stranded on the tarmac for 12 hours in Abu Dhabi or some Middle Eastern airport due to fog. The Etihad airliner destined for SFO was held in queue because of extraordinary fog.
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If they're serious about the TATL market, they'd fly from US airports to Western Europe and then onward to the ME. That will get a lot of US customers.
No food other than some sandwiches when people kept complaining.
If they're serious about the TATL market, they'd fly from US airports to Western Europe and then onward to the ME. That will get a lot of US customers.
Jan 5, 2015, 12:26 pm
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There's a story in the SF media about passengers being stranded on the tarmac for 12 hours in Abu Dhabi or some Middle Eastern airport due to fog. The Etihad airliner destined for SFO was held in queue because of extraordinary fog.
No food other than some sandwiches when people kept complaining.
If they're serious about the TATL market, they'd fly from US airports to Western Europe and then onward to the ME. That will get a lot of US customers.
No food other than some sandwiches when people kept complaining.
If they're serious about the TATL market, they'd fly from US airports to Western Europe and then onward to the ME. That will get a lot of US customers.
I agree if they can fly from US to Europe without having to go through their home base then it won and done. And we passengers will be the clear winners. But since most of the European airlines are in one way or another subsidized by their governments might not happen. And the of course there's the cry baby US Flags that can't even get out of their own way.
Jan 5, 2015, 1:20 pm
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I agree if they can fly from US to Europe without having to go through their home base then it won and done. And we passengers will be the clear winners. But since most of the European airlines are in one way or another subsidized by their governments might not happen. And the of course there's the cry baby US Flags that can't even get out of their own way.
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Jan 5, 2015, 1:33 pm
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Yeah I'm not saying it's likely. For instance, would FRA, CDG, KLM, LHR give a lot of slots to these airlines for flights to/from US?
Given their relationships with LH, AF/KLM, BA, etc. it seems unlikely.
Plus even if you get to Western Europe on these Arab airlines, how would you continue to other European destinations, unless they have alliances or partnerships with the European airlines?
Given their relationships with LH, AF/KLM, BA, etc. it seems unlikely.
Plus even if you get to Western Europe on these Arab airlines, how would you continue to other European destinations, unless they have alliances or partnerships with the European airlines?
Jan 5, 2015, 1:47 pm
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Personally, I don't really care if they're alliance partners or not. It's easy enough to just buy separate TATL and inter-euro tickets. I've done it, and continue to do it quite often.
Jan 6, 2015, 7:21 am
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Sorry for the politics I am a businessman and not happy.
Jan 7, 2015, 11:10 am
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Tell me one european airline that does get some assistance from it's government in one form or another. Certainly their concern is for their flag carrier, unlike our current administration who could care less about anything remotely related to "big Business"
Sorry for the politics I am a businessman and not happy.
Sorry for the politics I am a businessman and not happy.
"One form or another" makes it meaningless. Every carrier everywhere gets something "in one form or another" because that can include everything down to and including a simple tax rebate/credit/deduction. I'm presuming you're meaning something more substantial, but can't think what "most EU carriers" might get in that regard.
There aren't (in the proper sense) many EU flag carriers, btw. Most are independent, commercial companies that stand or fail on their own. Look at IB for an example.
Jan 8, 2015, 6:50 am
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There's a story in the SF media about passengers being stranded on the tarmac for 12 hours in Abu Dhabi or some Middle Eastern airport due to fog. The Etihad airliner destined for SFO was held in queue because of extraordinary fog.
No food other than some sandwiches when people kept complaining.
If they're serious about the TATL market, they'd fly from US airports to Western Europe and then onward to the ME. That will get a lot of US customers.
No food other than some sandwiches when people kept complaining.
If they're serious about the TATL market, they'd fly from US airports to Western Europe and then onward to the ME. That will get a lot of US customers.
Jan 8, 2015, 7:53 pm
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No, sorry, you made the claim: you get to back it up.
"One form or another" makes it meaningless. Every carrier everywhere gets something "in one form or another" because that can include everything down to and including a simple tax rebate/credit/deduction. I'm presuming you're meaning something more substantial, but can't think what "most EU carriers" might get in that regard.
There aren't (in the proper sense) many EU flag carriers, btw. Most are independent, commercial companies that stand or fail on their own. Look at IB for an example.
"One form or another" makes it meaningless. Every carrier everywhere gets something "in one form or another" because that can include everything down to and including a simple tax rebate/credit/deduction. I'm presuming you're meaning something more substantial, but can't think what "most EU carriers" might get in that regard.
There aren't (in the proper sense) many EU flag carriers, btw. Most are independent, commercial companies that stand or fail on their own. Look at IB for an example.
Jan 8, 2015, 10:55 pm
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Jan 9, 2015, 6:06 am
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Some might find this to be an interesting read:
Insider Series: True Life of an Emirates Flight Attendant
http://thepointsguy.com/2015/01/insi...#ixzz3OKTKYRGa
Some may claim it is being sensational to gain views, but flying potentially exhausted crews seems like it could be dangerous in an emergency.
Insider Series: True Life of an Emirates Flight Attendant
http://thepointsguy.com/2015/01/insi...#ixzz3OKTKYRGa
Some may claim it is being sensational to gain views, but flying potentially exhausted crews seems like it could be dangerous in an emergency.
Mar 16, 2015, 12:17 pm
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DL, AA and UA complained about $42 million in "unfair" subsidies received by the Gulf/Arab airlines earlier this month.
Al-baker of Qatar refuted the claims and then trash-talked DL:
http://news.yahoo.com/qatar-airways-...31601698.html#
Al-baker of Qatar refuted the claims and then trash-talked DL:
Baker's attack on Monday though was not merely limited to discussions over competition.
He also defended Qatar Airway's record when it comes to CO2 emissions and unflatteringly compared Delta's aircraft to those of his company when asked about aviation pollution.
"I am delighted that Richard Anderson of Delta is not here. First of all, we don't fly crap airplanes that are 35 years old. The Qatar Airways average fleet (age) is only fours years and one month," said Baker.
"We have ultra-modern airplanes. We have invested, my country has invested, huge amounts to make sure we are the lowest CO2 contributor in the aviation industry."
He also defended Qatar Airway's record when it comes to CO2 emissions and unflatteringly compared Delta's aircraft to those of his company when asked about aviation pollution.
"I am delighted that Richard Anderson of Delta is not here. First of all, we don't fly crap airplanes that are 35 years old. The Qatar Airways average fleet (age) is only fours years and one month," said Baker.
"We have ultra-modern airplanes. We have invested, my country has invested, huge amounts to make sure we are the lowest CO2 contributor in the aviation industry."
Mar 16, 2015, 12:57 pm
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DL, AA and UA complained about $42 million in "unfair" subsidies received by the Gulf/Arab airlines earlier this month.
Al-baker of Qatar refuted the claims and then trash-talked DL:
http://news.yahoo.com/qatar-airways-...31601698.html#
Al-baker of Qatar refuted the claims and then trash-talked DL:
http://news.yahoo.com/qatar-airways-...31601698.html#
Mar 16, 2015, 7:31 pm
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Now if QR flew domestically within the US then yeah. DL's entire fleet would look like a fleet of crapboxes in comparison. Sadly however, I don't currently enjoy having such an option for domestic travel.
Mar 17, 2015, 7:36 am
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Sadly, Delta's old crap airplanes are the best in the fleet. The 757, 747, MD-88 are all considerably more pleasant than the crappy 737s and Airbuses that are currently being delivered.
Now if QR flew domestically within the US then yeah. DL's entire fleet would look like a fleet of crapboxes in comparison. Sadly however, I don't currently enjoy having such an option for domestic travel.
Now if QR flew domestically within the US then yeah. DL's entire fleet would look like a fleet of crapboxes in comparison. Sadly however, I don't currently enjoy having such an option for domestic travel.
Don't get me wrong profit is a good thing ( being a business owner ) but to what end ?
AS has a solid model blending profit and people sometimes we all disagree with them but hey that's the way it goes.
Off to another AS flight