Upgrading Yourself
May 29, 2015 | 5:42 am
#76
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I suspect this is a post to attach trolling, the golden rule being that if you want to sit in a premium cabin you need to pay for that.
But if you are interested here is a thread on what happened when some one on a BA flight did self upgrade.
But if you are interested here is a thread on what happened when some one on a BA flight did self upgrade.
Sounds like headcount check at takeoff + meals budgeted would foil the plan. Not that I'd have the balls to try it out though - despite being 6'4" and sleeping in WT cabin once a week
May 29, 2015 | 11:58 am
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Of course there's a need to discuss morality here. You obviously know the unoccupied seat isn't available to you without incremental cost. If I observe you stealing something I paid for I'm going to rat you out in a heartbeat.
May 29, 2015 | 1:28 pm
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thebagdoesnotinflate, welcome to FlyerTalk! I combined your thread with a previous one on essentially the same topic, so that you may see other member discussion. Ocn Vw 1K, Moderator.
May 29, 2015 | 1:46 pm
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How about the reverse?
I was flying SEA-ICN and I wanted to buy a business/first-class seat.
Any seat with more legroom.
I asked the FA if there were open seats and he said yes. I asked if I can buy a seat but they said no. No accepting payment in the flight or if the plane lands.
I was sad.
I was flying SEA-ICN and I wanted to buy a business/first-class seat.
Any seat with more legroom.
I asked the FA if there were open seats and he said yes. I asked if I can buy a seat but they said no. No accepting payment in the flight or if the plane lands.
I was sad.
May 30, 2015 | 7:59 am
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How about the reverse?
I was flying SEA-ICN and I wanted to buy a business/first-class seat.
Any seat with more legroom.
I asked the FA if there were open seats and he said yes. I asked if I can buy a seat but they said no. No accepting payment in the flight or if the plane lands.
I was sad.
I was flying SEA-ICN and I wanted to buy a business/first-class seat.
Any seat with more legroom.
I asked the FA if there were open seats and he said yes. I asked if I can buy a seat but they said no. No accepting payment in the flight or if the plane lands.
I was sad.
Dec 3, 2015 | 12:30 pm
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Let me spin this question a bit more. Those of you who think this is theft, please answer.
Let's say I book a middle seat because I don't want to pay extra for an aisle/window. I get on the plane and the aisle is vacant, so I move there, thereby giving both myself and the guy by the window a bit more room. Is that theft of services as well?
If not, what distinguishes this scenario from moving into first class?
Let's say I book a middle seat because I don't want to pay extra for an aisle/window. I get on the plane and the aisle is vacant, so I move there, thereby giving both myself and the guy by the window a bit more room. Is that theft of services as well?
If not, what distinguishes this scenario from moving into first class?
If the aisle seat has a higher revenue profile from the middle seat, then yes. It would be theft of services. Theft of services is based on the difference between what the person paid for, and what they took as well as the services offered by the seller. If they are the same price or offer no difference in service, then no.
Dec 3, 2015 | 10:53 pm
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If the aisle seat has a higher revenue profile from the middle seat, then yes. It would be theft of services. Theft of services is based on the difference between what the person paid for, and what they took as well as the services offered by the seller. If they are the same price or offer no difference in service, then no.
Dec 3, 2015 | 11:05 pm
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I too would never of dreamed of just poaching a business or first seat. In the days I sat in economy, I longed to move up in front of that precious curtain but I was never game to just do it without paying for a seat.
Dec 4, 2015 | 12:11 pm
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That depends entirely on the airline and it's policies. Some airlines DO enforce the revenue profile of the cabin, and are willing to sell an upgrade in-flight. Others do not, and still others have a rule but the FA has the final call.
Dec 5, 2015 | 7:27 pm
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Years ago, maybe probably 13 or 14, I was in J on a MIA/LHR flight. A young woman from coach came up to the J lav & was in there for ages before take-off which was a little worrying considering the atmosphere not long after 9/11. When the doors were shut & the pre-takeoff announcements started, she came out & plunked herself in a J aisle seat. I mentioned to the FA to check the lav & pointed out the miscreant, which she did & came out & moved her back to coach.
She would have caught her anyway when she took the meal orders but hiding in the lav before takeoff was a new one to me.
She would have caught her anyway when she took the meal orders but hiding in the lav before takeoff was a new one to me.