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Old Jul 19, 2012 | 1:39 am
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Most of my travels are with my husband. I'm not bothered if I can't sit next to him whether it's a long haul or short haul flight. The only reason why I would like him next to me is only so I don't have to sit next to a strangers but I don't see the need to sit together at all times. Plus I treat it as my me time before I start my holidays when I will be spending days and nights with him anyway.
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Old Jul 19, 2012 | 1:57 am
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Originally Posted by moeve
The airlines make this a problem too in that they allow "Status" flyers the option of the entire plane. It isn't unsual to find a seating plan where aisle seating is booked leaving not option for lets say families. One way to solve this would be to perhaps save 1 or 2 rows in the back for families with children and should there be none open these seats up during OLCI.
Clearly yes. Families do need to sit together - or, rather, young children need to sit with a parent or other responsible person. (Yes, I know children travel unaccompanied, but they shouldn't have to if their family is on the plane. And very young children can't be separated from their family anyway.) And there will be some vulnerable adults who will need to sit next to the person that they are travelling with.

As for the rest, it's often nice to sit with one's travelling companions, but rarely essential. I remember, for example, a couple making an awful fuss because they couldn't sit together on a flight from London to Vienna. As the flight only lasts two hours or so, I couldn't see that it ought to be such a major problem.

Perhaps I'm prejudiced though. I used to travel sometimes with a more senior work colleague who always insisted that we should sit together "so we can go through some of these papers and documents". Achieving this requirement that we sit together always involved my waiting around for him so that we could check in together. Anyway, I'd get on the plane all primed for a work session. My colleague, meanwhile, would get distracted by the menu or the wine list or the view out the window, eat whatever meal was due, and then fall asleep. So much for working on the plane!
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Old Jul 19, 2012 | 4:42 am
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I am surprised at the "black and white" philosophy exhibited by some posters.

it is generally easy enough to see if some one is requesting out of "entitlement" or because the airline scr*w*d them over. If it is the former, not a chance..the latter, I will consider a switch.

At one point in time my sister regularly traveled with 3 kids under 10 across country at peak holiday. Because of the $$$ involved, she always booked months ahead. Not once did she get to keep the seats she had originally selected, and she had no choice but to ask others to switch. It was a PITA for everyone, and I was quite surprised to hear comments some people made to her...when in actuality, she had appropriately planned.

On the other hand, I am always amazed when 2 middle aged adult request seat changes and want to uproot everyone in sight to sit together on a relatively short flight. I will often do it - but really? I could care the least whether I am sitting next to Mr. Sophie!
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Old Jul 19, 2012 | 5:44 am
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I agree specially when traveling with younger children. In my experience, they don't like to be sitting in a separate seat (mine is afraid of flying!) so the closer she seats to me, the better. Sometimes you end up sitting with someone who doesn't like to socialize at all, so I would rather sit with my loved ones!
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Old Jul 19, 2012 | 8:39 pm
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After the hoops I just jumped through to enable my kids to sit with a parent on a six hour flight I wonder what the point of booking seats is.

YUL to SFO, booked tickets two months back, assigned seats together in row 22. All good until...... could not olci no matter what we tried, called and told to arrive three hours out to secure seats.

Arrived as advised, flight on united, code share with AC, helpful staff went through check in on terminal. Lo and behold all four of us were seated all over the plane in middle seats.

We saw there were two middle seats available in exits rows, so we paid for the two adults to sit in them. $130 in total. Then we boarded and promptly used our boarding passes to lure the aisle passengers sitting next to our kids into middle seats in exit rows. Both were guys who were more than happy to trade, fortunately.

It was a total pita to go through this process as people were trying to board and settle in. Totally stupid that we could not be seated together at the airport three hours out.

I am more than happy to sit away from hubby, and older kids, on any length of flights, but this situation ticked me off. Youngest cannot have a credit card to buy in cabin food and entertainment on United, so why would they seat her alone.
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Old Jul 22, 2012 | 4:27 pm
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Originally Posted by djs
Even though I have this view, Im fine with someone wanting to sit with their kid but thats different than needing to sit with a SO of an adult age.
Because I work long hours and am away from home for extened periods. I love my wife and when possible would like to sit next to her .

That being said I am gracious about asking and if told "no" I smile, offer thanks, and move on.
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Old Jul 22, 2012 | 4:47 pm
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Originally Posted by vicarious_MR'er
It's certainly not the end of the world if we can't be seated together, but someone else already touched on the reason it's nice when it DOES work out: The personal space issue. It's a lot more comfortable to share limited space with someone who is familiar as opposed to a stranger.

That being said, I've spent hundreds if not thousands of hours in planes next to strangers, so like I said, it's not the end of the world either way.
And even more so when it's an intimate partner--contact is welcome, not something to be avoided.

On the transpacific flights my wife takes the window and puts her legs over on my lap to sleep. It works quite well. She wouldn't sleep nearly as well if she had to stay within the bounds of her seat.
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Old Jul 22, 2012 | 4:51 pm
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Originally Posted by PhoenixRev
I consider myself lucky that my spouse and I, after 12 years of being a couple, are still as giddy and head-over-heels in love with each other as the day we realized that we were, indeed, in love.

When we travel, as much as we hate the middle seat, one of us will take it to be next to the other. I find the discomfort of the middle seat completely bearable when I am able to lift the armrest and hold hands with my best friend and soulmate.

Yes, I am the hopeless romantic. No, I don't want to get away from my spouse because we have lots of other times we are together.

I guess I am one of those rare birds that finds that having my better half along for the ride is what makes the ride that much better.
You're not alone. When we are near each other there is usually some point of contact although it's usually not holding hands. The most common pattern is my hand on her shoulder. (The more usual thing with couples of the hand on the hip is awkward for us due to a considerable height difference.)
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Old Jul 22, 2012 | 4:57 pm
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Originally Posted by irishgal21
Makes you wonder if the airlines will ever launch adults-only flights (for an additional fee, of course).
You mean flights where you don't have to hide in the lavs to join the mile high club?
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Old Jul 22, 2012 | 8:50 pm
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Originally Posted by Loren Pechtel
And even more so when it's an intimate partner--contact is welcome, not something to be avoided..
And why would it be assumed that someone who doesn't mind sitting apart is doing so to "avoid contact"???? Rather presumptuous, as is thinking that others "want" to be apart because they spend lots of other time elsewhere, or are somehow "less" romantic than you.

To allow a young mother to sit with her child we will separate...especially if the seating error isn't of her making or is due to travel inexperience. I have watched Mr Sophie entertain a young child for hours so his parent could just have a break. I am extremely claustrophobic, but will gladly sit in a middle seat so that a serviceperson can have the small luxury of an exit aisle.

If that means I am less of a romantic, so be it.

But of course the reality is those situations don't happen all the time...so we could certainly sit together...except my husband is 6'7". If he is stuck in coach, it is incredibly important that the person in front of him does not put their seat back. The only way to insure no one does is if I take that seat.

Perhaps, just like beauty, romance is in the eye of the beholder. TEHO.
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Old Jul 22, 2012 | 11:42 pm
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Originally Posted by craezie
Wow, I didn't realize I would ignite such a firestorm. I took it as a given that most people would understand that a 2 and 4 year old would absolutely NEED to sit together, but apparently not. I assure you that the result was entirely the screw-up of the airline and not at all the result of some kind of entitlement attitude or desire to get out of paying fees on our part. We actually phoned in the reservation for bereavement fares, the one and only time I have made reservations by phone. I am guessing that some lack on the part of the agent caused the screw up that allowed preschoolers to be seated alone in the first place.

Either way, I am slightly shocked at how hostile some people can be about children. Yes they are inconvenient, can be unruly, and even downright unpleasant at times. But we were all children once before, and someone sacrificed to get us where we are today. I just wish that everyone could have a little more tolerance and compassion for others, especially the very young and old.
And I just wish that parents of two and four year old children had more compassion for others. My parents didn't bring me on an airplane when I was four. They didn't want to inconvenience other passengers by bringing their small children into a confined space with others for hours at a time. Pay extra in advance for your kids to sit together or don't fly.
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Old Jul 23, 2012 | 12:25 am
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It minimizes the chance of new human interaction with your unknown seatmate, ie talkative, smelly, invasive etc. Also if I am flying with my partner I feel more freedom to step to the restroom more often and sit in more comfortable positions that I wouldn't allow myself next to a stranger.
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Old Jul 23, 2012 | 2:12 am
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Originally Posted by nrr
On most airlines, you can choose your seats in advance, and if booked far enough in advance can be guaranteed adjacent seats
No, you can't ever "guarantee" adjacent seats. You can reserve seats that are adjacent, and you can pay extra for a premium seat (window, aisle, or bulkhead) but in the end a seat assignment is not part of the contract and the airline has the right to move you wherever they want.

I don't think many airlines let you pay extra for adjacent seats. You can pay extra for a special seat (such as a window), but they can move you to another equivalent seat (a window in another row) without notice or compensation.
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Old Jul 23, 2012 | 3:21 pm
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A lot of you must have some odd marriages/relationships if the thought of sitting next to your SO for a few hours on a flight causes such revulsion.
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Old Jul 24, 2012 | 2:05 pm
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Originally Posted by KoKoBuddy
A lot of you must have some odd marriages/relationships if the thought of sitting next to your SO for a few hours on a flight causes such revulsion.
I met one of these people a few days ago. I was boarding an ERJ behind a couple and their 5ish-year old daughter. They were going on vacation carrying a stroller and an assortment of bags and were obviously not FFs (e.g., handed the GA all their passports and boarding passes instead of just the BPs for that specific flight).

Anyway, wife seemed a little nervous about being separated on the plane and husband tried to calm her down by saying he'd ask another pax if s/he minded moving, so they could seat together. He then confirmed that his wife's seat was 17A.

Since I was on 4A, I thought the chance of being close to them and able to help was slim. But when I boarded, lo and behold, father and daughter are on 4B/C. So I immediately offered to go to the back of the plane and switch with his wife. His response: "Hell no! I've already discussed this many times with my wife."

I guess he didn't realize I'd been behind them in the boarding line. I was a little startled, but then it's none of my business how he treats his wife.
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