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Old Jul 5, 2019, 11:20 am
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Originally Posted by WHBM
Pan Am 707. Stops at Tampa.
19. An excellent guess.....however, the air carrier in question wasn't Pan Am, the equipment wasn't a 707 and this flight did not stop in Tampa (TPA).

But we can safely say this airline was based in the U.S. Please guess again, sir!
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Old Jul 5, 2019, 11:37 am
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17. This air carrier was operating the only nonstop service between New York City (JFK) and Cancun (CUN) in 1976 with two flights a week. Identify the airline and the equipment. It wasn't Aeromexico or Lufthansa and the equipment wasn't a DC-10. The air carrier in question was not based in the U.S.

19. It's 1976. You arrive at the airport in Mexico City just in time to catch the last flight of the day to Miami. This daily service departs MEX at 2:55 pm and arrives into MIA at 8:32 pm with one stop being made en route. Identify the airline, the stop and the equipment. ANSWERED

20. What was the name that Hughes Airwest used for its Boeing 727-200 aircraft in 1977?
"_________ Banana" (it wasn't "Flying Banana", "Golden Banana", "Top Banana" or "Big Banana".....)
And then there were just three two......

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Old Jul 5, 2019, 11:41 am
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Originally Posted by jlemon
19. It's 1976. You arrive at the airport in Mexico City just in time to catch the last flight of the day to Miami. This daily service departs MEX at 2:55 pm and arrives into MIA at 8:32 pm with one stop being made en route. Identify the airline, the stop and the equipment. It wasn't Pan Am, the equipment wasn't a 707 and the stop wasn't made at TPA. The airline in question was based in the U.S.
19- how about Braniff, with a 727-227 stopping at Houston (IAH)
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Old Jul 5, 2019, 11:42 am
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Originally Posted by WHBM
Meh ... just a kindergarten for pilots for landing at London City.
Well, of course......but I'm willing to wager that crash & rescue as well as emergency services in general are probably superior at LCY! @:-)
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Old Jul 5, 2019, 11:47 am
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Originally Posted by jrl767
19- how about Braniff, with a 727-227 stopping at Houston (IAH)
19. Yet another excellent guess.....however, the airline question wasn't Braniff International, the aircraft wasn't a B727-200 and the stop was not made at Houston Intercontinental.
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Old Jul 5, 2019, 11:51 am
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Originally Posted by jlemon
19. It's 1976. You arrive at the airport in Mexico City just in time to catch the last flight of the day to Miami. This daily service departs MEX at 2:55 pm and arrives into MIA at 8:32 pm with one stop being made en route. Identify the airline, the stop and the equipment. It wasn't Pan Am, the equipment wasn't a 707 and the stop wasn't made at TPA. The airline in question was based in the U.S.
19- one more try: Eastern, DC-8 (perhaps even a -61), New Orleans (MSY)
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Old Jul 5, 2019, 12:27 pm
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Originally Posted by jrl767
19- one more try: Eastern, DC-8 (perhaps even a -61), New Orleans (MSY)
19. Yep, it was Eastern but not with a DC-8 as the flight was actually operated with a Boeing 727-100. Here's the sched....

EA 906: Mexico City (MEX) 2:55p - 4:52p New Orleans (MSY) 6:00p - 8:32p Miami (MIA)
Freq: Daily
Service classes: F/Y MEX-MSY, F/Y/J MSY-MIA (it appears that J class was discounted economy and thus not business class. See note below.)
Meal services: Snack MEX-MSY, Dinner MSY-MIA
Equip: 727
Note: All nonstop flights being operated by Eastern and National between New Orleans and Miami at this time offered F/Y/J classes of service although I believe there were only two cabins on the aircraft flown on the route by EA (B727-100) and NA (DC-10 & B727-200). Here are the one way airfares on EA and NA from MSY to MIA in early 1976: F - $97.00, Y - $70.00, J - $45.00
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Old Jul 5, 2019, 5:41 pm
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And as the long holiday weekend continues here in the U.S., here are ten more new quiz items from yours truly. Hopefully, my ancient laptop will hang in there long enough to take care of these. Meantime, I know that Seat 2A is waiting in the wings with a whole raft of exciting new quiz questions and that is always something to look forward to!

As always, please limit your response to two and no more than three quiz items per day so that all may participate. Thanks!

21. What did U.S. air carriers Lake Central Airlines, Northern Consolidated and Pacific Air Lines as well as Mexicana de Aviacion all have in common in 1967 according to an aircraft manufacturer? ANSWERED

22. If you wanted to fly on board an Airbus A300 in 1976 from New York JFK Airport, there was only one airline to call. The air carrier in question was operating flights with the A300 to two destinations from JFK and both of them were not transatlantic in nature. Name the airline and both destinations. ANSWERED

23. In 1977, this U.S. based air carrier announced its intention to acquire four new McDonnell Douglas MD-80 aircraft which would have been a new type in their fleet. However, these MD-80s were never delivered to the airline in question. Identify this air carrier. It wasn't Hughes Airwest

24. In 1978, this airline requested CAB approval to begin flying a new nonstop route from Los Angeles (LAX) to Louisville (SDF) with the new service then continuing on to Nashville (BNA). However, the air carrier in question never operated the LAX-SDF-BNA service. Name the airline. ANSWERED

25. This air carrier was operating nonstop service twice a week from Amsterdam (AMS) to Tampa (TPA) in 1979. Identify the airline and the equipment it was operating on the route. ANSWERED

26. You are in Guadalajara in 1981 and need to travel to Omaha. Ah, you are probably going to have to connect somewhere.....but wait! Here's a two stop flight which operates four days a week from GDL to OMA. What air carrier will you be flying with, what are the two stops and what type of aircraft will you be flying on?

27. If you wanted to fly nonstop from Salt Lake City (SLC) to Chicago O'Hare (ORD) in 1982 on board a stretched DC-8, what airline would you call? ANSWERED

28. Republic Airlines initiated new nonstop flights between Minneapolis/St. Paul and Los Angeles and also between Detroit and Los Angeles in 1982. RC had a name for the on board service offered on these new flights. What was it? Republic's "___________ Service"

29. If you wanted to fly on board a Boeing 757 from London Luton Airport nonstop to Alicante, Spain in 1996, what airline would you call? ANSWERED

30. During its existence, this airline based in the western hemisphere took delivery of and operated twelve new Boeing 727-200 Advanced model aircraft which all had a unique capability not found on any other 727. Identify this air carrier as well as the unique capability. ANSWERED

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Old Jul 5, 2019, 6:18 pm
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Originally Posted by jlemon
30. During its existence, this airline based in the western hemisphere took delivery of and operated twelve Boeing 727-200 Advanced model aircraft which had a unique capability not found on any other 727. Identify this air carrier as well as the unique capability.
Mexicana wanted to operate their 727-264s without takeoff performance payload restrictions in “high-and-hot” conditions ... Boeing accommodated by certifying what was essentially a RATO (Rocket-Assisted Take Off) capability: I believe there were six “rocket bottles” installed in the aft wing-to-body fairing (three per side) that were available to provide supplemental thrust in the event of an engine failure on takeoff

there are a handful of photos of MX 72S takeoffs with the rockets firing; I’m not sure if the pilots actually had to engage the system for takeoff or manually activate it as part of the engine failure recovery checklist
https://www.avgeekery.com/boeing-act...fs-on-the-727/


~1980 Boeing started to offer an option for “Automatic Performance Reserve” (APR) on the 72S: this system basically kicked up the thrust on the other two engines after it sensed an RPM decay on one ... I was an analysis engineer on half a dozen or so test flights, and will recount some of the interesting stories in the next day or so
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Old Jul 5, 2019, 8:35 pm
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22. If you wanted to fly on board an Airbus A300 in 1976 from New York JFK Airport, there was only one airline to call. The air carrier in question was operating flights with the A300 to two destinations from JFK and both of them were not transatlantic in nature. Name the airline and both destinations.

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Air France
Fort de France and Pointe a Pitre
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Old Jul 5, 2019, 8:52 pm
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24. In 1978, this airline requested CAB approval to begin flying a new nonstop route from Los Angeles (LAX) to Louisville (SDF) with the new service then continuing on to Nashville (BNA). However, the air carrier in question never operated the LAX-SDF-BNA service. Name the airline.

American Airlines. In 2019, they finally started A319 service SDF-LAX, though.
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Old Jul 6, 2019, 2:15 am
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Originally Posted by jlemon

29. If you wanted to fly on board a Boeing 757 from London Luton Airport nonstop to Alicante, Spain in 1996, what airline would you call?
I'll try locally based Monarch Airlines.
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Old Jul 6, 2019, 4:16 am
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25. This air carrier was operating nonstop service twice a week from Amsterdam (AMS) to Tampa (TPA) in 1979. Identify the airline and the equipment it was operating on the route.
I think this could be National's last blast at linking various European points with various Florida points, and would be with a DC-10, maybe routing Frankfurt-Amsterdam-Tampa. I presume they sold much of the capacity to German and Netherlands tour operators. They did various such low frequency routes, when Pan Am took them over a few months later they got rid of them all, whereupon Air Florida rapidly entered the same markets with the same aircraft type.
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Old Jul 6, 2019, 9:54 am
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Originally Posted by jrl767

Mexicana wanted to operate their 727-264s without takeoff performance payload restrictions in “high-and-hot” conditions ... Boeing accommodated by certifying what was essentially a RATO (Rocket-Assisted Take Off) capability: I believe there were six “rocket bottles” installed in the aft wing-to-body fairing (three per side) that were available to provide supplemental thrust in the event of an engine failure on takeoff

there are a handful of photos of MX 72S takeoffs with the rockets firing; I’m not sure if the pilots actually had to engage the system for takeoff or manually activate it as part of the engine failure recovery checklist
https://www.avgeekery.com/boeing-act...fs-on-the-727/
30. Correct!
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Old Jul 6, 2019, 10:14 am
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Originally Posted by Toshbaf
22. If you wanted to fly on board an Airbus A300 in 1976 from New York JFK Airport, there was only one airline to call. The air carrier in question was operating flights with the A300 to two destinations from JFK and both of them were not transatlantic in nature. Name the airline and both destinations.

Air France
Fort de France and Pointe a Pitre
22. Correct! In early 1976, Air France was operating the A300 on five flights a week from JFK nonstop to Pointe A Pitre (PTP) with three of these flights continuing on to Fort De France (FDF) and was also operating one nonstop flight a week with the A300 from JFK to FDF.
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