Old Timer's Airline Quiz and Discussion.
Feb 17, 2019, 11:54 am
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12. The American Meteorological Society is holding its annual conference in Jackson, Mississippi – the windiest city in America. From your home outside of Phoenix, that’ll probably translate into an unpleasant journey involving one or more connections. Imagine then your surprise and delight when your travel agent informs you that there’s a 2-stop flight departing Phoenix each morning except Saturday. Identify the airline, enroute stops and equipment please.
I see that jrl767 has correctly guessed the original Frontier (FL) operating a B737-200. And I recall that Frontier's short-lived service between Jackson (JAN) and Denver made a stop in Little Rock (LIT). I also believe this was the only time there was nonstop jet service between LIT and JAN.
Not only did Frontier offer one stop service from Denver to Jackson, they also served up a pretty nice lunch between Denver and Little Rock. Here's the schedule:
Frontier FL 172 Phoenix (PHX) 840a-1112a Denver (DEN) 1158a-251p L Little Rock (LIT) 322p-401p Jackson (JAN) 737-200 Daily X Sat
PHX-DEN Breakfast ~ DEN-LIT Lunch
I see that jrl767 has correctly guessed the original Frontier (FL) operating a B737-200. And I recall that Frontier's short-lived service between Jackson (JAN) and Denver made a stop in Little Rock (LIT). I also believe this was the only time there was nonstop jet service between LIT and JAN.
Not only did Frontier offer one stop service from Denver to Jackson, they also served up a pretty nice lunch between Denver and Little Rock. Here's the schedule:
Frontier FL 172 Phoenix (PHX) 840a-1112a Denver (DEN) 1158a-251p L Little Rock (LIT) 322p-401p Jackson (JAN) 737-200 Daily X Sat
PHX-DEN Breakfast ~ DEN-LIT Lunch
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Great job on that initial batch of questions, everyone! Here's a few more to consider...
But first, here are the remaining unanswered questions from the first installment:
B. It's the winter of 1986 and you’re on Koror where it’s been a great week of diving and exploring submerged WWII ships. Now it’s time to return to Honolulu. Surprisingly, Air Mike only serves Honolulu via a connection in Guam. But wait! There’s another option – a 2-stop direct flight that just happens to be leaving Sunday afternoon. Identify the airline, aircraft and the two enroute stops.
It was not Air Nauru, but the second stop was on Majuro
The following quiz items have a time line of the winter of 1994....
6. After driving from Anchorage down the Alaska Highway to Eugene, Oregon to deliver your old Ford Bronco to your son who’s a student athlete at the U of O, you watched with pride as his Oregon Ducks beat the Washington Huskies in a last second buzzer beater in NCAA Division 1 Basketball. For your return flight home to Anchorage, you’ve found a great low far with an airline other than Alaska. You’ll fly nonstop from Eugene to the connecting city, and then board a one stop flight to Anchorage. Identify the airline, the aircraft and the routing including the intermediate stop between the connecting city and Anchorage.
7. Back in early 1994, you could fly aboard what was possibly the first scheduled westbound nonstop transcon flight operated with a variant of the Boeing 737. Identify the route, the airline and the variant of 737 utilized.
The airline was not United and SFO was not involved
8. Back in early 1994, if you wanted to fly between the New York City metropolitan area and Chicago’s Midway Airport, three airlines offered nonstop flights. Two operated from Newark while one operated out of LaGuardia. Each airline operated a different type of equipment on this route. Identify the three airlines and the equipment each operated on the NYC-MDW route.
Midway and Kiwi International have been identified. We need just one more airline and aircraft
9. After having been upgraded to First Class aboard an oversold Eastern L-1011 back in the eighties, Jim’s had a hard time sitting in Economy Class on airplanes that also have a First Class cabin. He just can’t get past the memories of his fantastic experience and the fact that he’s not only up not up there to enjoy it again, but that on his pension as a custodial technician for the East Orange School District, he likely never will be. As such, J1m prefers to fly upon airlines that don’t offer First Class. Fortunately, the route between New York and Ft. Lauderdale features two airlines that operate their jets in an all-economy configuration. Identify both airlines and the equipment each operates.
The following quiz items have a time line of the spring of 1980....
10. How exciting! You’ve just been invited by your brother to join him and his family at the Jai Alai Tournament of Champions down in Miami. From your home in Daytona Beach, Miami is just a 4 hour drive down I-95. Then again, thanks to a new deregulation inspired fare war, there’s a sale on. Your first choice of airlines, Eastern, is sold out. However, the other carrier serving Miami from DAB is offering a two-stop flight for $3.00 less than Eastern. Book it Danno! Identify the airline, aircraft and the two enroute stops.
11. It’s a long ride from Rapid City, SD to Seattle, WA on the Greyhound bus, but hey - you can’t beat the price! Unfortunately, when the bus breaks down outside of Billings, MT and you’re told that the next one won’t be along for another couple of days, you decide to bag it and fly. To your surprise, there’s a single daily nonstop flight departing late each evening to Seattle. You take a big breath, pull out your credit card and purchase a ticket. Identify the airline and aircraft you’ll be flying upon.
The following quiz items have a time line of the spring of 1987....
14. It used to be if you wanted to fly from Pittsburgh to Toronto, you’d give Nordair or Eastern a call. These days, Eastern still serves the route with a pair of 757s but Nordair has been replaced by another airline. Identify that airline and the equipment it operates on its two flights between Pittsburgh and Toronto.
15. You never envisioned yourself going to see Kenny Rogers in concert (AC/DC is more your speed) but when your grandparents offer to pay for you and your wife to join them in Branson, Missouri, you all have a surprisingly good time. Now it’s time to fly back home to Los Angeles. The flight out to Springfield from Los Angeles involved a connection and a missed connection, so when you discover that there’s a single daily direct 2-stop flight from SGF back to LAX, you buy a pair of tickets. Identify the airline, equipment and the two enroute stops.
16. In the post-deregulated world of commercial air travel in the U.S., anything’s possible it seems. Witness your upcoming trip from Fayetteville, NC to Reno, NV. You love the spring skiing at Heavenly Valley and in years past your trip between Fayetteville and Reno has involved one and often two connections. Not so anymore with the arrival of a new 2-stop direct flight. Identify the airline, the equipment and the two intermediate stops.
17. The history of air travel through California’s scenic Lake Tahoe airport has seen a variety of airlines and aircraft operating everything from Viscounts to 727s. In 1987 only one airline operates anything larger than a 20 seater through TVL. Identify that airline and the equipment it operates.
18. Identify the only international flight operated out of Halifax Stanfield International Airport with turboprop equipment. We’re looking for airline, destination and equipment.
19. In 1987, if you want to fly direct from most anywhere in Florida to the state of Maine, you typically call Delta Airlines. You’ve never been a big fan of Delta though, and so you couldn’t be happier to discover an airline you’ve never heard of offering an affordable one stop direct flight – indeed it’s the only service nonstop or direct – between Orlando and Portland. Book it, Danno! Identify the airline and aircraft you’ll be flying aboard, not to mention the aircraft type.
20. Identify the two international routes flown to and from the United States utilizing a DC-3. While you’re at it, identify the single airline that flew them as well.
21. It’s a great life working as a bartender for the rich and famous in Vail, Colorado. Now that the season is over, it’s time to relocate to Las Vegas and your summer job bartending at the MGM Grand. Thankfully the transition is made easier this year with the addition of a new once weekly 1-stop direct flight between Vail’s Eagle County Regional Airport and Las Vegas. Identify the airline, aircraft and enroute stop if you please.
22. What fun! You’ve just received a call from jlemon to join him and three friends on a sailing trip from Aruba to St. Thomas, Virgin Islands. From your home in Wilmington, Delaware you could fly out of either New York or Washington, DC as both airports are essentially equidistant from your home and accessible by train. You settle for a well timed departure out of JFK aboard a new airline that offers affordable 1 stop flights each Saturday and Sunday to Aruba. Breakfast and lunch will be served enroute. Identify the airline, aircraft and enroute stop please.
23. Is this your lucky trip or what? A quick review of the schedules between St. Thomas and Washington Dulles has revealed a convenient afternoon 1-stop direct flight that ticks all the boxes: It’s more affordable than the traditional airlines flying the route, it offers First Class service and a dinner is served enroute. What airline and aircraft will you be flying upon and where will you stop along the way?
The following quiz items have a time line of the winter of 1986....
26. Over the years a number of airlines have offered direct service between Hawaii and London. Anybody remember BOAC VC10s plying the route via LAX and JFK? Of course you do! Now then, what was the airline du jour providing this service in late 1986? Where did the flight stop and what type of equipment did it use?
27. These days the Dubai to London route is well served with a multitude of daily nonstop A380s from the likes of Emirates, BA and Qantas. Back in 1986 however, it was a different story. Which airline offered the most nonstop flights per week from Dubai to London?
28. On my recent trip through Southeast Asia – and in particular Vietnam - earlier this year, I was impressed by the quality of air travel within Vietnam. On the Hanoi to Ho Chi Minh City route, three airlines offer dozens of daily nonstops. Vietnam Airlines operates many of its flights on that route with new Boeing 787 and Airbus A350 equipment. Back in 1986 however, the HAN-SGN route had just a single daily flight. Identify the airline and aircraft operating that flight.
30. You’re flying from New York home to Paris to visit family and friends over the Christmas holidays. Your family lives in the Viry-Ch tillon neighborhood, only 20 minutes south of Orly Airport via the A6. The problem is all the airlines you’d expect to fly from NYC to Paris all fly into the much less convenient Charles de Gaulle Airport. But wait! Further research has revealed two airlines – both of which offer twice weekly nonstop flights between New York JFK and Paris Orly. Identify the two airlines and the aircraft each operate.
31. It’s been a dreary winter in the tiny village of Little Bollington in Cheshire, England. Perhaps a trip down to Spain’s beautiful Costa Blanca is in order. From nearby Manchester Airport, there’s a new airline that operates a single weekly scheduled nonstop departing MAN each Saturday. Best of all, there’ll be no dreaded seatback catering such as found on some of those dreadful charters. Identify the airline and the aircraft type it operates.
It's not Cal Air, nor is it a DC-10
32. From your home on Isle of Man, you’ll be travelling down to London on business and then continuing on to the city of Leeds, way up in County Yorkshire, where you’ll spend the weekend with your dear old uncle. Two airlines will be involved, one for the nonstop to London Heathrow and the other for the nonstop up to Leeds. One airline operates propeller equipment only while the other operates both props and jets. You will be flying upon the only aircraft type common to both airlines. So then, identify each airline and the common equipment you’ll be flying upon.
33. Identify the only airline NOT from Africa or the Middle East that still flew Boeing 707s on scheduled flights into London Heathrow
But first, here are the remaining unanswered questions from the first installment:
B. It's the winter of 1986 and you’re on Koror where it’s been a great week of diving and exploring submerged WWII ships. Now it’s time to return to Honolulu. Surprisingly, Air Mike only serves Honolulu via a connection in Guam. But wait! There’s another option – a 2-stop direct flight that just happens to be leaving Sunday afternoon. Identify the airline, aircraft and the two enroute stops.
It was not Air Nauru, but the second stop was on Majuro
The following quiz items have a time line of the winter of 1994....
6. After driving from Anchorage down the Alaska Highway to Eugene, Oregon to deliver your old Ford Bronco to your son who’s a student athlete at the U of O, you watched with pride as his Oregon Ducks beat the Washington Huskies in a last second buzzer beater in NCAA Division 1 Basketball. For your return flight home to Anchorage, you’ve found a great low far with an airline other than Alaska. You’ll fly nonstop from Eugene to the connecting city, and then board a one stop flight to Anchorage. Identify the airline, the aircraft and the routing including the intermediate stop between the connecting city and Anchorage.
7. Back in early 1994, you could fly aboard what was possibly the first scheduled westbound nonstop transcon flight operated with a variant of the Boeing 737. Identify the route, the airline and the variant of 737 utilized.
The airline was not United and SFO was not involved
8. Back in early 1994, if you wanted to fly between the New York City metropolitan area and Chicago’s Midway Airport, three airlines offered nonstop flights. Two operated from Newark while one operated out of LaGuardia. Each airline operated a different type of equipment on this route. Identify the three airlines and the equipment each operated on the NYC-MDW route.
Midway and Kiwi International have been identified. We need just one more airline and aircraft
9. After having been upgraded to First Class aboard an oversold Eastern L-1011 back in the eighties, Jim’s had a hard time sitting in Economy Class on airplanes that also have a First Class cabin. He just can’t get past the memories of his fantastic experience and the fact that he’s not only up not up there to enjoy it again, but that on his pension as a custodial technician for the East Orange School District, he likely never will be. As such, J1m prefers to fly upon airlines that don’t offer First Class. Fortunately, the route between New York and Ft. Lauderdale features two airlines that operate their jets in an all-economy configuration. Identify both airlines and the equipment each operates.
The following quiz items have a time line of the spring of 1980....
10. How exciting! You’ve just been invited by your brother to join him and his family at the Jai Alai Tournament of Champions down in Miami. From your home in Daytona Beach, Miami is just a 4 hour drive down I-95. Then again, thanks to a new deregulation inspired fare war, there’s a sale on. Your first choice of airlines, Eastern, is sold out. However, the other carrier serving Miami from DAB is offering a two-stop flight for $3.00 less than Eastern. Book it Danno! Identify the airline, aircraft and the two enroute stops.
11. It’s a long ride from Rapid City, SD to Seattle, WA on the Greyhound bus, but hey - you can’t beat the price! Unfortunately, when the bus breaks down outside of Billings, MT and you’re told that the next one won’t be along for another couple of days, you decide to bag it and fly. To your surprise, there’s a single daily nonstop flight departing late each evening to Seattle. You take a big breath, pull out your credit card and purchase a ticket. Identify the airline and aircraft you’ll be flying upon.
The following quiz items have a time line of the spring of 1987....
14. It used to be if you wanted to fly from Pittsburgh to Toronto, you’d give Nordair or Eastern a call. These days, Eastern still serves the route with a pair of 757s but Nordair has been replaced by another airline. Identify that airline and the equipment it operates on its two flights between Pittsburgh and Toronto.
15. You never envisioned yourself going to see Kenny Rogers in concert (AC/DC is more your speed) but when your grandparents offer to pay for you and your wife to join them in Branson, Missouri, you all have a surprisingly good time. Now it’s time to fly back home to Los Angeles. The flight out to Springfield from Los Angeles involved a connection and a missed connection, so when you discover that there’s a single daily direct 2-stop flight from SGF back to LAX, you buy a pair of tickets. Identify the airline, equipment and the two enroute stops.
16. In the post-deregulated world of commercial air travel in the U.S., anything’s possible it seems. Witness your upcoming trip from Fayetteville, NC to Reno, NV. You love the spring skiing at Heavenly Valley and in years past your trip between Fayetteville and Reno has involved one and often two connections. Not so anymore with the arrival of a new 2-stop direct flight. Identify the airline, the equipment and the two intermediate stops.
17. The history of air travel through California’s scenic Lake Tahoe airport has seen a variety of airlines and aircraft operating everything from Viscounts to 727s. In 1987 only one airline operates anything larger than a 20 seater through TVL. Identify that airline and the equipment it operates.
18. Identify the only international flight operated out of Halifax Stanfield International Airport with turboprop equipment. We’re looking for airline, destination and equipment.
19. In 1987, if you want to fly direct from most anywhere in Florida to the state of Maine, you typically call Delta Airlines. You’ve never been a big fan of Delta though, and so you couldn’t be happier to discover an airline you’ve never heard of offering an affordable one stop direct flight – indeed it’s the only service nonstop or direct – between Orlando and Portland. Book it, Danno! Identify the airline and aircraft you’ll be flying aboard, not to mention the aircraft type.
20. Identify the two international routes flown to and from the United States utilizing a DC-3. While you’re at it, identify the single airline that flew them as well.
21. It’s a great life working as a bartender for the rich and famous in Vail, Colorado. Now that the season is over, it’s time to relocate to Las Vegas and your summer job bartending at the MGM Grand. Thankfully the transition is made easier this year with the addition of a new once weekly 1-stop direct flight between Vail’s Eagle County Regional Airport and Las Vegas. Identify the airline, aircraft and enroute stop if you please.
22. What fun! You’ve just received a call from jlemon to join him and three friends on a sailing trip from Aruba to St. Thomas, Virgin Islands. From your home in Wilmington, Delaware you could fly out of either New York or Washington, DC as both airports are essentially equidistant from your home and accessible by train. You settle for a well timed departure out of JFK aboard a new airline that offers affordable 1 stop flights each Saturday and Sunday to Aruba. Breakfast and lunch will be served enroute. Identify the airline, aircraft and enroute stop please.
23. Is this your lucky trip or what? A quick review of the schedules between St. Thomas and Washington Dulles has revealed a convenient afternoon 1-stop direct flight that ticks all the boxes: It’s more affordable than the traditional airlines flying the route, it offers First Class service and a dinner is served enroute. What airline and aircraft will you be flying upon and where will you stop along the way?
The following quiz items have a time line of the winter of 1986....
26. Over the years a number of airlines have offered direct service between Hawaii and London. Anybody remember BOAC VC10s plying the route via LAX and JFK? Of course you do! Now then, what was the airline du jour providing this service in late 1986? Where did the flight stop and what type of equipment did it use?
27. These days the Dubai to London route is well served with a multitude of daily nonstop A380s from the likes of Emirates, BA and Qantas. Back in 1986 however, it was a different story. Which airline offered the most nonstop flights per week from Dubai to London?
28. On my recent trip through Southeast Asia – and in particular Vietnam - earlier this year, I was impressed by the quality of air travel within Vietnam. On the Hanoi to Ho Chi Minh City route, three airlines offer dozens of daily nonstops. Vietnam Airlines operates many of its flights on that route with new Boeing 787 and Airbus A350 equipment. Back in 1986 however, the HAN-SGN route had just a single daily flight. Identify the airline and aircraft operating that flight.
30. You’re flying from New York home to Paris to visit family and friends over the Christmas holidays. Your family lives in the Viry-Ch tillon neighborhood, only 20 minutes south of Orly Airport via the A6. The problem is all the airlines you’d expect to fly from NYC to Paris all fly into the much less convenient Charles de Gaulle Airport. But wait! Further research has revealed two airlines – both of which offer twice weekly nonstop flights between New York JFK and Paris Orly. Identify the two airlines and the aircraft each operate.
31. It’s been a dreary winter in the tiny village of Little Bollington in Cheshire, England. Perhaps a trip down to Spain’s beautiful Costa Blanca is in order. From nearby Manchester Airport, there’s a new airline that operates a single weekly scheduled nonstop departing MAN each Saturday. Best of all, there’ll be no dreaded seatback catering such as found on some of those dreadful charters. Identify the airline and the aircraft type it operates.
It's not Cal Air, nor is it a DC-10
32. From your home on Isle of Man, you’ll be travelling down to London on business and then continuing on to the city of Leeds, way up in County Yorkshire, where you’ll spend the weekend with your dear old uncle. Two airlines will be involved, one for the nonstop to London Heathrow and the other for the nonstop up to Leeds. One airline operates propeller equipment only while the other operates both props and jets. You will be flying upon the only aircraft type common to both airlines. So then, identify each airline and the common equipment you’ll be flying upon.
33. Identify the only airline NOT from Africa or the Middle East that still flew Boeing 707s on scheduled flights into London Heathrow
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3. Back in the “Good Old Days” New Orleans was well served with a variety of widebody jet flights. National Airlines in particular comes to mind with its many DC-10s routing through from a variety of Florida cities, continuing on to Houston and points west. In early 1994, MSY is served with only two widebody flights per day – both te same type of equipment. We’re not interested in the destination(s) of these flights, just the airline and equipment type.
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Speaking of New Orleans (MSY), there is exciting news concerning the Crescent City's international airport. This May, a new one billion dollar terminal with 35 gates is scheduled to open. The N.O. airport authority says it will open on May 15....but I would not be surprised if that date gets pushed back a bit. What won't be ready is the new freeway link between Interstate 10 and the new terminal which is located on the north side of the airfield near the Atlantic Aviation FBO (I've used this FBO many times when overseeing helicopter charters for oil & gas companies working offshore in the Gulf of Mexico - it has a terrific view of the airport from an upstairs outside deck). I am looking forward to checking out the new terminal when it does finally open....and who knows, it may even have a lounge for BA's Club World passengers traveling on the B787-8 flights between LHR and MSY.
And BTW, besides National and their DC-10 service plus Continental with the A300 (and also the DC-10), other airlines operating wide body service into New Orleans in the past included British Airways with the L-1011-500, American with the B767-200 and DC-10, Delta with the B767-200, B767-300, DC-10 (yes, the DC-10) and L-1011, Eastern with the A300 and L-1011, Northeastern International with the A300 and Pan Am with the DC-10. I do not believe the 747 was ever operated in scheduled service into New Orleans....but I do know of at least one occasion where a KLM B747-400 diverted into MSY due to severe weather at IAH. And Swissair operated the MD-11 into MSY at least once on a charter.
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28. On my recent trip through Southeast Asia – and in particular Vietnam - earlier this year, I was impressed by the quality of air travel within Vietnam. On the Hanoi to Ho Chi Minh City route, three airlines offer dozens of daily nonstops. Vietnam Airlines operates many of its flights on that route with new Boeing 787 and Airbus A350 equipment. Back in 1986 however, the HAN-SGN route had just a single daily flight. Identify the airline and aircraft operating that flight.
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Re. 31 - I shouldn't struggle with this one. Perhaps it was the cheap whiskey bottle me and my partner polished off last night dulling the synapses. One of those chitter chatter by the fire evenings ending too late and fuzzily... ohh my 'ead today 
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It was charter generally. I know they flew to the US because one of my work colleagues turned up at MAN and managed to get himself on a flight with them for peanuts and a button (those were the days eh?)... I guess he got a standby from the B-Cal ticket booth. So, yes, they were affiliated. I think they morphed into something called NovAir before their demise.
On this...
Originally Posted by Seat 2A
On a side note, I thought Cal Air was strictly charter. Wasn't it affiliated with B-Cal in some way? Did it also have scheduled flights?
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8. Back in early 1994, if you wanted to fly between the New York City metropolitan area and Chicago’s Midway Airport, three airlines offered nonstop flights. Two operated from Newark while one operated out of LaGuardia. Each airline operated a different type of equipment on this route. Identify the three airlines and the equipment each operated on the NYC-MDW route.
Kiwi International Air Lines, Boeing 727-200 Correct!
Midway Airlines, Fokker 100 to LGA Correct!
Continental Airlines, Boeing 737-300 Incorrect!
Kiwi International Air Lines, Boeing 727-200 Correct!
Midway Airlines, Fokker 100 to LGA Correct!
Continental Airlines, Boeing 737-300 Incorrect!
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Thanks for the recent suggestion/invitation to join this game when I posted elsewhere on FT.
If bored on a flight, which is rare, I have played the same game in my head. "What if I had my own airline starting just before deregulation, say 1979?" In particular, would I start with a fleet of 737-200's? Or DC-9-30's? What routes would I fly? Could I be as big as America West which "took over" American or as big as Texas International, which "took over" United?
In one model, I start out with DC-9-30's and have a small fleet of transcon A320-200's, later a large fleet of A320neo/A321neo. In another model, I start out with 737-200's and, delay transcons until I have the 737-700 and -800. Being optimistic, I avoid bankruptcy!
If bored on a flight, which is rare, I have played the same game in my head. "What if I had my own airline starting just before deregulation, say 1979?" In particular, would I start with a fleet of 737-200's? Or DC-9-30's? What routes would I fly? Could I be as big as America West which "took over" American or as big as Texas International, which "took over" United?
In one model, I start out with DC-9-30's and have a small fleet of transcon A320-200's, later a large fleet of A320neo/A321neo. In another model, I start out with 737-200's and, delay transcons until I have the 737-700 and -800. Being optimistic, I avoid bankruptcy!
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9. After having been upgraded to First Class aboard an oversold Eastern L-1011 back in the eighties, Jim’s had a hard time sitting in Economy Class on airplanes that also have a First Class cabin. He just can’t get past the memories of his fantastic experience and the fact that he’s not only up not up there to enjoy it again, but that on his pension as a custodial technician for the East Orange School District, he likely never will be. As such, J1m prefers to fly upon airlines that don’t offer First Class. Fortunately, the route between New York and Ft. Lauderdale features two airlines that operate their jets in an all-economy configuration. Identify both airlines and the equipment each operates.
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Speaking of New Orleans (MSY), there is exciting news concerning the Crescent City's international airport. This May, a new one billion dollar terminal with 35 gates is scheduled to open.
Do you know if that's just 1 billion or 1 point something considerably higher. I only mention it when thinking of Jerry Jones' 1.2 billion dollar football stadium for his Cowboys. I believe the new stadiums in LA and LAS will both be well over 1 billion dollars. Hard to believe they might actually cost more to build than an entire airport!
I do not believe the 747 was ever operated in scheduled service into New Orleans....but I do know of at least one occasion where a KLM B747-400 diverted into MSY due to severe weather at IAH.
Braniff operated the Big Orange N601BN into MSY as a charter for Bronco fans heading to SB12 in 1978.
Do you know if that's just 1 billion or 1 point something considerably higher. I only mention it when thinking of Jerry Jones' 1.2 billion dollar football stadium for his Cowboys. I believe the new stadiums in LA and LAS will both be well over 1 billion dollars. Hard to believe they might actually cost more to build than an entire airport!
I do not believe the 747 was ever operated in scheduled service into New Orleans....but I do know of at least one occasion where a KLM B747-400 diverted into MSY due to severe weather at IAH.
Braniff operated the Big Orange N601BN into MSY as a charter for Bronco fans heading to SB12 in 1978.
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28. On my recent trip through Southeast Asia – and in particular Vietnam - earlier this year, I was impressed by the quality of air travel within Vietnam. On the Hanoi to Ho Chi Minh City route, three airlines offer dozens of daily nonstops. Vietnam Airlines operates many of its flights on that route with new Boeing 787 and Airbus A350 equipment. Back in 1986 however, the HAN-SGN route had just a single daily flight. Identify the airline and aircraft operating that flight.
I imagine this has to be a domestic flight of VietNam Airlines, with Russian equipment. Let's g with an IL-18.
You're on the right track, YVR. We need an airline name (Not Vietnam Airlines) and equipment (It was a jet)
I imagine this has to be a domestic flight of VietNam Airlines, with Russian equipment. Let's g with an IL-18.
You're on the right track, YVR. We need an airline name (Not Vietnam Airlines) and equipment (It was a jet)
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8. Back in early 1994, if you wanted to fly between the New York City metropolitan area and Chicago’s Midway Airport, three airlines offered nonstop flights. Two operated from Newark while one operated out of LaGuardia. Each airline operated a different type of equipment on this route. Identify the three airlines and the equipment each operated on the NYC-MDW route.
Kiwi International Air Lines, Boeing 727-200 Correct!
Midway Airlines, Fokker 100 to LGA Correct!
Continental Airlines, Boeing 737-300 Incorrect!
American Trans, Boeing 757-200 MDW-EWR
An excellent guess, T - If I didn't know better I'd be thinking along the same lines. But No - we're still looking for a different airline operating a different aircraft type. Carry on!
Kiwi International Air Lines, Boeing 727-200 Correct!
Midway Airlines, Fokker 100 to LGA Correct!
Continental Airlines, Boeing 737-300 Incorrect!
American Trans, Boeing 757-200 MDW-EWR
An excellent guess, T - If I didn't know better I'd be thinking along the same lines. But No - we're still looking for a different airline operating a different aircraft type. Carry on!
Feb 17, 2019, 3:02 pm
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9. After having been upgraded to First Class aboard an oversold Eastern L-1011 back in the eighties, Jim’s had a hard time sitting in Economy Class on airplanes that also have a First Class cabin. He just can’t get past the memories of his fantastic experience and the fact that he’s not only up not up there to enjoy it again, but that on his pension as a custodial technician for the East Orange School District, he likely never will be. As such, J1m prefers to fly upon airlines that don’t offer First Class. Fortunately, the route between New York and Ft. Lauderdale features two airlines that operate their jets in an all-economy configuration. Identify both airlines and the equipment each operates.
Let’s try Kiwi with a 727-200 and Carnival (whose code, ironically, was “KW”) with a 737-400
Carnival, yes. 737-400, no.
Kiwi International, no.
Good luck polishing this one off!
The link was more as a point of reference, but welcome to the Quiz And Discussion in any case ... it’s always good to broaden our community of commercial aviation history enthusiasts!
Indeed! ^
Let’s try Kiwi with a 727-200 and Carnival (whose code, ironically, was “KW”) with a 737-400
Carnival, yes. 737-400, no.
Kiwi International, no.
Good luck polishing this one off!
The link was more as a point of reference, but welcome to the Quiz And Discussion in any case ... it’s always good to broaden our community of commercial aviation history enthusiasts!
Indeed! ^
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One departure from Heathrow, even in economy, there were drinks before departure for all, offered, by tray, pre-poured into plastic glasses. First a smiling stewardess with the tray, offering pleasantly to everyone "would you like water, would you like orange juice", followed by her colleague "would you like pineapple juice, would you like mango juice". Then came the scowling steward at speed, tray held down low, zero eye contact. "Beer beer beer ..." he mumbled quietly as he passed. Hardly any uptake before he was gone. Presumably there was then a quiet celebration in the back galley as all the Demon Drink was poured down the drain.
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Seat 2A concerning the cost of the new pax terminal at MSY: Do you know if that's just 1 billion or 1 point something considerably higher.....
I rounded that number off. The N.O. airport authority states the cost as being $1.029 billion. I do not believe that includes the cost of constructing the freeway link between Interstate 10 and the new terminal (whenever they get around to doing this).
However, sir, we are talkin' 'bout New Orleans and the great state of Louisiana here.... so who knows what the real cost might be.
And with that, perhaps it's time for an extra special Mardi Gras season Cajun Bloody Mary on a rainy Sunday afternoon (hey, it's almost 5 pm here).
I rounded that number off. The N.O. airport authority states the cost as being $1.029 billion. I do not believe that includes the cost of constructing the freeway link between Interstate 10 and the new terminal (whenever they get around to doing this).
However, sir, we are talkin' 'bout New Orleans and the great state of Louisiana here.... so who knows what the real cost might be.
And with that, perhaps it's time for an extra special Mardi Gras season Cajun Bloody Mary on a rainy Sunday afternoon (hey, it's almost 5 pm here).
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9- I’ll downsize Carnival to a 737-300 ... I remember ValuJet with a mini-hub at Dulles; perhaps they had a couple of round-robin DC-9-30 trips to/from FLL that passed thru EWR in one or the other direction