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Old Dec 5, 2023, 9:04 am
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jrl767 I fear that we've now reached a serious impasse, and might be closing in on "directed hint" time as a result. If I put forth anymore wrong UA planes for DEN-SEA, I will feel bad, and my prospects of correctly picking small planes for the other remaining two cells are even lower. So, I'm hoping you can nudge as a little bit (i.e. don't give away answers, but push us in the right direction; all of us want to complete your amazing trip 2!).
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Old Dec 5, 2023, 9:13 am
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Originally Posted by Herb687
I think I flew on one AA MD-87 (ex-QQ) and I believe that AA also picked up a small number of MD-90s from QQ that were, like the M87s, retired pretty soon after the merger....
Yep, they sure did....

https://www.airliners.net/photo/Amer...0-30/2304746/L

BTW, old friends who worked for American for many years said the MD-90 designation for the airplane actually stood for "Minimum Delay 90 minutes" due to engine reliability issues experienced by the former Reno Air birds.
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Old Dec 5, 2023, 9:38 am
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Originally Posted by jrl767
2D- D10 is INCORRECT … per my source OAG, UA875 (the 1125am DEN-SEA trip) was indeed operated with a D10; however, this flight featured a different jet

HINT: from the source OAG, UA operated five more types into DEN at this point in 1999; two were Airbus products and three were Boeing-built … the jet in question was not the smallest from either manufacturer
Aha. I see that the DEN-SEA equipment was not the smallest from either manufacturer. But could it have been the smallest from either manufacturer actually operated by UAL? UA flew the small A319 but not the smallest A318.

As I think we've already eliminated everything else in the fleet save for 747 variants operated by the Friendly Skies (and I just don't remember UA flying 747s DEN-SEA in the '90s (ORD-SEA, yes, but DEN-SEA just doesn't feel right), so my 2D guess is 319.
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Old Dec 5, 2023, 2:13 pm
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Originally Posted by kochleffel
Maybe I shouldn't do this first thing in the morning, either.

2A: ER4
2F: SH6
2A- ERJ of any size is INCORRECT
HINT- it’s a turboprop

2F- SH6 is INCORRECT
HINT- it’s smaller

Originally Posted by Herb687
Aha. I see that the DEN-SEA equipment was not the smallest from either manufacturer. But could it have been the smallest from either manufacturer actually operated by UAL? UA flew the small A319 but not the smallest A318.

As I think we've already eliminated everything else in the fleet save for 747 variants operated by the Friendly Skies (and I just don't remember UA flying 747s DEN-SEA in the '90s (ORD-SEA, yes, but DEN-SEA just doesn't feel right), so my 2D guess is 319.
2D-
well, I think we’ve reached the end of the guessing road here for this UA flight … DEN-SEA was actually a 744
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Old Dec 5, 2023, 2:16 pm
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Originally Posted by jrl767
2D-
well, I think weve reached the end of the guessing road here for this UA flight DEN-SEA was actually a 744
Wow. Shocked that UA was operating a DEN-SEA 747 in 1999.
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Old Dec 6, 2023, 5:57 am
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For cell H7, I'm going to suggest the EMB 120, at only 30 seats (v 36 seats in the SH6). We could potentially go even smaller, but this would limit us to things like the Twin Otter, which US never used. or other wrong guesses like the B1900. My gut tells me that we will finish off trip 2, but things like the 744 for SEA-DEN simply shocked me.
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Old Dec 6, 2023, 7:38 am
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2a, day-cle: Atr
2f, ind-cmh: Sh3
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Old Dec 7, 2023, 3:19 pm
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Are you okay jrl767 ? I hope you aren't offended by our recent guesses here. Turboprops based in airports like IND 20 years ago clearly aren't our strong suit, but I still remain confident that we'll finish off trip 2 eventually. I've really enjoyed its Great Circle component personally.
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Old Dec 7, 2023, 4:13 pm
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doing fine, thanks

return trip was EAP-LHR (BA A320) on Tues afternoon and LHR-IAD (BA 787-10) yesterday

2A- ATR is INCORRECT (not possible per the constraints, as we already have one in this trip)

2F- EM2 is INCORRECT (not possible per the constraints, as we already have one in this trip)

2F- SH3 is INCORRECT

HINT- one of the two was a U.S.-built type, the other was from the U.K.
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Old Dec 7, 2023, 4:33 pm
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Originally Posted by jrl767
doing fine, thanks

return trip was eap-lhr (ba a320) on tues afternoon and lhr-iad (ba 787-10) yesterday

2a- atr is incorrect (not possible per the constraints, as we already have one in this trip)

2f- em2 is incorrect (not possible per the constraints, as we already have one in this trip)

2f- sh3 is incorrect

hint- one of the two was a u.s.-built type, the other was from the u.k.
2a, day-cle: Swm
2f, ind-cmh: J31
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Old Dec 7, 2023, 5:48 pm
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2A- the “pencil with wings” is INCORRECT — but a good guess

2F- the Jetstream 31 is CORRECT
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Old Dec 7, 2023, 6:02 pm
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Originally Posted by jrl767
2A- the pencil with wings is INCORRECT but a good guess

2F- the Jetstream 31 is CORRECT
There are very few choices remaining for 2A, but I'm out of guesses for the day.
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Old Dec 7, 2023, 6:21 pm
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Originally Posted by jrl767
2A- the pencil with wings is INCORRECT but a good guess

2F- the Jetstream 31 is CORRECT
Originally Posted by kochleffel
There are very few choices remaining for 2A, but I'm out of guesses for the day.
With the 2A equipment being US-built, I will guess BE1 for that flight and hope we can close out this great circle adventure.
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Old Dec 7, 2023, 6:55 pm
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Originally Posted by Herb687
With the 2A equipment being US-built, I will guess BE1 for that flight and hope we can close out this great circle adventure.
2A- BE1 is CORRECT

stand by for the third Great Circle adventure
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