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KVS Jul 28, 2010 4:35 pm


Originally Posted by metallim (Post 14380565)
lol, seems like the faq section isn't in style.

Congrats on mastering the KVS Tool FAQ ;)

metallim Jul 28, 2010 6:01 pm


Originally Posted by ExpertFlyer Voice (Post 14381508)
Here is the full availability for the 14th:

Code:

LY 27        TLV        EWR        772        Economy - Awards        J        0
        11/14/2010        11/14/2010                               
        12:30 AM        6:00 AM                               
LY 1        TLV        JFK        744        Economy - Awards        J        0
        11/14/2010        11/14/2010                               
        1:00 AM        6:05 AM                               
LY 7        TLV        JFK        744        Economy - Awards        J        4
        11/14/2010        11/14/2010                               
        10:40 AM        3:45 PM

and the 15th:

Code:

LY 27        TLV        EWR        772        Economy - Awards        J        0
        11/15/2010        11/15/2010                               
        12:30 AM        6:00 AM                               
LY 1        TLV        JFK        744        Economy - Awards        J        0
        11/15/2010        11/15/2010                               
        1:00 AM        6:05 AM                               
LY 11        TLV        JFK        744        Economy - Awards        J        4
        11/15/2010        11/15/2010                               
        2:00 PM        7:05 PM

Hope that helps you.

thanks, but how can i pull that up myself?

KVS Jul 28, 2010 6:49 pm


Originally Posted by metallim (Post 14382918)
thanks, but how can i pull that up myself?

As mentioned in the KVS Tool User Guide (http://Help.KVSTool.com/#Methods), the [Galileo] Method only shows flights, that do have availability in the requested booking class(es). If you want to further confirm that there are no J seats on the other 2 flights, you need to enter "Y J" in the [Class(es)] field:

[KVS Availability Tool 5.6.0/Diamond - Galileo: Availability/ETR/JP]
Code:

TLV  Tel Aviv Yafo Metro / Tel Aviv Yafo Ben Gurion Int'l IL = TLV SDV [LLBG]
NYC  New York Metro NY US = JFK LGA
SUN  14 Nov 2010

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  ------------
LY        7      TLV  10:40    JFK  15:45    744  0  Y4 J4
LY        1      TLV  01:00    JFK  06:05    744  0  Y4
LY        27      TLV  00:30    EWR  06:00    772  0  Y4


metallim Jul 29, 2010 2:02 am

beautiful, thank you.

ual744777sta Jul 29, 2010 6:44 pm

Is KVS down right now? The only thing working right now is Sabre....

KVS Jul 29, 2010 8:03 pm

[WSpan: ITN] & [Apollo: ITN] Methods Currently Unavailable
 

Originally Posted by ual744777sta (Post 14389450)
Is KVS down right now? The only thing working right now is Sabre....

This matter is currently being looked into:

[WSpan: ITN] & [Apollo: ITN] Methods Currently Unavailable

In the meantime, elite-tier users should switch to [Sabre: ITN] or [Galileo: ETR] to ensure uninterrupted access. Further information will be posted as it becomes available.

tmm1012 Jul 30, 2010 12:05 am


Originally Posted by KVS (Post 14389828)
This matter is currently being looked into:

[WSpan: ITN] & [Apollo: ITN] Methods Currently Unavailable

In the meantime, elite-tier users should switch to [Sabre: ITN] or [Galileo: ETR] to ensure uninterrupted access. Further information will be posted as it becomes available.

As a side-note that may be helpful, I can't seem to get http://www.seatcounter.com to work either. Thanks for all your work on the program, KVS. Anxiously awaiting any updates, but not trying to rush you.

FlyerGoldII Jul 30, 2010 3:43 pm

KVS - how do I found out about MPM automatically?
 
As per my last post of the thread,

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/air-c...ess-class.html

any route between YOW to MIL via CPH would be over the MPM of 4076 miles.

When I use the KVS tool and look at the fare rules, and the fare routing, associated with the Z fare of this route, I do not see anything directly stating that a surcharge will be applied if the MPM is exceeded, nor to do I see anywhere that the MPM is over the 4076 miles.

Of course, I am not looking at the MPM section separately from the fare rules and the fare routing sections. If I did, would there be any easy way to determine that routing via CPH would exceed this route's MPM?

KVS Jul 30, 2010 4:54 pm


Originally Posted by FlyerGoldII (Post 14394586)
As per my last post of the thread,

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/air-c...ess-class.html

any route between YOW to MIL via CPH would be over the MPM of 4076 miles.

When I use the KVS tool and look at the fare rules, and the fare routing, associated with the Z fare of this route, I do not see anything directly stating that a surcharge will be applied if the MPM is exceeded, nor to do I see anywhere that the MPM is over the 4076 miles.

Of course, I am not looking at the MPM section separately from the fare rules and the fare routing sections. If I did, would there be any easy way to determine that routing via CPH would exceed this route's MPM?

These are Routing-based fares, so MPM does not apply:

[KVS Availability Tool 5.6.0/Diamond - Routing Rules: YOW-MIL/AC/ZXRC30/3228 USD]
Code:

YOWMIL-AC 30JUL10      *RULE DISPLAY*    TARIFF 0101 RULE E350
* ADD APPLICABLE TAX * FED INSP FEES *                         
  -FARE BASIS        CAD      NUC                PTC  FT  GI
ZXRC30          R  3306.00  3152.68              ADT  EX  AT
ZXRC30          R  3306.00  3152.68              CNN  EX  AT
ZXRC30/IN90    R    330.00    315.26              INF  EX  AT
ZXRC30          R  3306.00  3152.68              INS  EX  AT
ZXRC30          R  3306.00  3152.68              UNN  EX  AT
BOOKING CODES        Z                                         
INDUSTRY FARE TYPE -  BX - BUSINESS CLASS EXCURSION           
MPM - AT  4704 VIA NORTH ATLANTIC
---------------------------------------------------------------

ROUTING 1401 FROM-TO  YOW-YMQ-YTO-YHZ-YYT-AC-MIL*             
            FROM-TO  YOW-YMQ-YTO-YHZ-YYT-AC-AC/LH-MIL*       
            FROM-TO  YOW-YMQ-YTO-YHZ-YYT-AC-AC/LH-AC/LH/LX-   
                      MIL*                                     
            FROM-TO  YOW-YMQ-YTO-YHZ-YYT-AC-AC/LH-STR-AC/     
                      LH/LX-MIL*                               
            FROM-TO  YOW-YMQ-YTO-YHZ-YYT-AC-MUC/PAR/ROM/     
                      ZRH/WAW/VIE-AC/LH-MIL*                   
            FROM-TO  YOW-YMQ-YTO-YHZ-YYT-AC-MUC/PAR/ROM/     
                      ZRH/WAW/VIE-AC/LH-AC/LH/LX-MIL*         
            FROM-TO  YOW-YMQ-YTO-YHZ-YYT-AC-MUC/PAR/ROM/     
                      ZRH/WAW/VIE-AC/LH-STR-AC/LH/LX-MIL*     
            FROM-TO  YOW-YMQ-YTO-YHZ-YYT-AC-BCN/BRU/DUS/     
                      FRA/HAM/LIS/LON/MAD/MUC/PAR/ROM/VIE/     
                      CPH-AC/LH-MIL*                           
            FROM-TO  YOW-YMQ-YTO-YHZ-YYT-AC-GVA/ZRH-AC/LX-   
                      MIL*                                     
            FROM-TO  YOW-YMQ-YTO-YHZ-YYT-AC-BRU-AC/SN-MIL*   
            FROM-TO  YOW-YMQ-YTO-YHZ-YYT-AC-MAD/BCN-JK/IB/   
                      AZ/LX-MIL*                               
            FROM-TO  YOW-YMQ-YTO-YHZ-YYT-AC-AMS-KL/AZ-MIL*   
            FROM-TO  YOW-YMQ-YTO-YHZ-YYT-AC-ATH-A3-MIL*       
            FROM-TO  YOW-YMQ-YTO-YHZ-YYT-AC-WAW-LO/AC-MIL*   
            FROM-TO  YOW-YMQ-YTO-YHZ-YYT-AC-BA/BD/SK/AZ-     
                      MIL*                                     
            FROM-TO  YOW-YMQ-YTO-YHZ-YYT-AC-AZ-MIL*           
            FROM-TO  YOW-YMQ-YTO-YHZ-YYT-AC-ROM-AZ-MIL*       
            FROM-TO  YOW-YMQ-YTO-YHZ-YYT-AC-AMS/BRU/LON-AZ/   
                      AF-MIL*                                 
            FROM-TO  YOW-YTO-YMQ-YHZ-YYT-AC-MIL*             
            FROM-TO  YOW-YTO-YMQ-YHZ-YYT-AC-AC/LH-MIL*       
            FROM-TO  YOW-YTO-YMQ-YHZ-YYT-AC-AC/LH-AC/LH/LX-   
                      MIL*                                     
            FROM-TO  YOW-YTO-YMQ-YHZ-YYT-AC-AC/LH-STR-AC/     
                      LH/LX-MIL*                               
            FROM-TO  YOW-YTO-YMQ-YHZ-YYT-AC-MUC/PAR/ROM/     
                      ZRH/WAW/VIE-AC/LH-MIL*                   
            FROM-TO  YOW-YTO-YMQ-YHZ-YYT-AC-MUC/PAR/ROM/     
                      ZRH/WAW/VIE-AC/LH-AC/LH/LX-MIL*         
            FROM-TO  YOW-YTO-YMQ-YHZ-YYT-AC-MUC/PAR/ROM/     
                      ZRH/WAW/VIE-AC/LH-STR-AC/LH/LX-MIL*     
            FROM-TO  YOW-YTO-YMQ-YHZ-YYT-AC-BCN/BRU/DUS/     
                      FRA/HAM/LIS/LON/MAD/MUC/PAR/ROM/VIE/     
                      CPH-AC/LH-MIL*                           
            FROM-TO  YOW-YTO-YMQ-YHZ-YYT-AC-GVA/ZRH-AC/LX-   
                      MIL*                                     
            FROM-TO  YOW-YTO-YMQ-YHZ-YYT-AC-BRU-AC/SN-MIL*   
            FROM-TO  YOW-YTO-YMQ-YHZ-YYT-AC-MAD/BCN-JK/IB/   
                      AZ/LX-MIL*                               
            FROM-TO  YOW-YTO-YMQ-YHZ-YYT-AC-AMS-KL/AZ-MIL*   
            FROM-TO  YOW-YTO-YMQ-YHZ-YYT-AC-ATH-A3-MIL*       
            FROM-TO  YOW-YTO-YMQ-YHZ-YYT-AC-WAW-LO/AC-MIL*   
            FROM-TO  YOW-YTO-YMQ-YHZ-YYT-AC-BA/BD/SK/AZ-     
                      MIL*                                     
            FROM-TO  YOW-YTO-YMQ-YHZ-YYT-AC-AZ-MIL*           
            FROM-TO  YOW-YTO-YMQ-YHZ-YYT-AC-ROM-AZ-MIL*       
            FROM-TO  YOW-YTO-YMQ-YHZ-YYT-AC-AMS/BRU/LON-AZ/   
                      AF-MIL*                                 
            FROM-TO  YOW-YMQ-YTO-AC/CO/LH/UA-BOS/CHI/CLE/     
                      DTT/EWR/NYC/PHL/WAS-AC-MIL*             
            FROM-TO  YOW-YMQ-YTO-AC/CO/LH/UA-BOS/CHI/CLE/     
                      DTT/EWR/NYC/PHL/WAS-AC-AC/LH-MIL*       
            FROM-TO  YOW-YMQ-YTO-AC/CO/LH/UA-BOS/CHI/CLE/     
                      DTT/EWR/NYC/PHL/WAS-AC-AC/LH-AC/LH/LX-   
                      MIL*                                     
            FROM-TO  YOW-YMQ-YTO-AC/CO/LH/UA-BOS/CHI/CLE/     
                      DTT/EWR/NYC/PHL/WAS-AC-AC/LH-STR-AC/     
                      LH/LX-MIL*                               
            FROM-TO  YOW-YMQ-YTO-AC/CO/LH/UA-BOS/CHI/CLE/     
                      DTT/EWR/NYC/PHL/WAS-AC-MUC/PAR/ROM/     
                      ZRH/WAW/VIE-AC/LH-MIL*                   
            FROM-TO  YOW-YMQ-YTO-AC/CO/LH/UA-BOS/CHI/CLE/     
                      DTT/EWR/NYC/PHL/WAS-AC-MUC/PAR/ROM/     
                      ZRH/WAW/VIE-AC/LH-AC/LH/LX-MIL*         
            FROM-TO  YOW-YMQ-YTO-AC/CO/LH/UA-BOS/CHI/CLE/     
                      DTT/EWR/NYC/PHL/WAS-AC-MUC/PAR/ROM/     
                      ZRH/WAW/VIE-AC/LH-STR-AC/LH/LX-MIL*     
            FROM-TO  YOW-YMQ-YTO-AC/CO/LH/UA-BOS/CHI/CLE/     
                      DTT/EWR/NYC/PHL/WAS-AC-BCN/BRU/DUS/     
                      FRA/HAM/LIS/LON/MAD/MUC/PAR/ROM/VIE/     
                      CPH-AC/LH-MIL*                           
            FROM-TO  YOW-YMQ-YTO-AC/CO/LH/UA-BOS/CHI/CLE/     
                      DTT/EWR/NYC/PHL/WAS-AC-GVA/ZRH-AC/LX-   
                      MIL*                                     
            FROM-TO  YOW-YMQ-YTO-AC/CO/LH/UA-BOS/CHI/CLE/     
                      DTT/EWR/NYC/PHL/WAS-AC-BRU-AC/SN-MIL*   
            FROM-TO  YOW-YMQ-YTO-AC/CO/LH/UA-BOS/CHI/CLE/     
                      DTT/EWR/NYC/PHL/WAS-AC-MAD/BCN-JK/IB/   
                      AZ/LX-MIL*                               
            FROM-TO  YOW-YMQ-YTO-AC/CO/LH/UA-BOS/CHI/CLE/     
                      DTT/EWR/NYC/PHL/WAS-AC-AMS-KL/AZ-MIL*   
            FROM-TO  YOW-YMQ-YTO-AC/CO/LH/UA-BOS/CHI/CLE/     
                      DTT/EWR/NYC/PHL/WAS-AC-ATH-A3-MIL*       
            FROM-TO  YOW-YMQ-YTO-AC/CO/LH/UA-BOS/CHI/CLE/     
                      DTT/EWR/NYC/PHL/WAS-AC-WAW-LO/AC-MIL*   
            FROM-TO  YOW-YMQ-YTO-AC/CO/LH/UA-BOS/CHI/CLE/     
                      DTT/EWR/NYC/PHL/WAS-AC-BA/BD/SK/AZ-     
                      MIL*                                     
            FROM-TO  YOW-YMQ-YTO-AC/CO/LH/UA-BOS/CHI/CLE/     
                      DTT/EWR/NYC/PHL/WAS-AC-AZ-MIL*           
            FROM-TO  YOW-YMQ-YTO-AC/CO/LH/UA-BOS/CHI/CLE/     
                      DTT/EWR/NYC/PHL/WAS-AC-ROM-AZ-MIL*       
            FROM-TO  YOW-YMQ-YTO-AC/CO/LH/UA-BOS/CHI/CLE/     
                      DTT/EWR/NYC/PHL/WAS-AC-AMS/BRU/LON-AZ/   
                      AF-MIL*                                 
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC/CO/LH/UA-BOS/CHI/CLE/DTT/EWR/     
                      NYC/PHL/WAS-AC-MIL*                     
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC/CO/LH/UA-BOS/CHI/CLE/DTT/EWR/     
                      NYC/PHL/WAS-AC-AC/LH-MIL*               
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC/CO/LH/UA-BOS/CHI/CLE/DTT/EWR/     
                      NYC/PHL/WAS-AC-AC/LH-AC/LH/LX-MIL*       
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC/CO/LH/UA-BOS/CHI/CLE/DTT/EWR/     
                      NYC/PHL/WAS-AC-AC/LH-STR-AC/LH/LX-MIL*   
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC/CO/LH/UA-BOS/CHI/CLE/DTT/EWR/     
                      NYC/PHL/WAS-AC-MUC/PAR/ROM/ZRH/WAW/     
                      VIE-AC/LH-MIL*                           
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC/CO/LH/UA-BOS/CHI/CLE/DTT/EWR/     
                      NYC/PHL/WAS-AC-MUC/PAR/ROM/ZRH/WAW/     
                      VIE-AC/LH-AC/LH/LX-MIL*                 
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC/CO/LH/UA-BOS/CHI/CLE/DTT/EWR/     
                      NYC/PHL/WAS-AC-MUC/PAR/ROM/ZRH/WAW/     
                      VIE-AC/LH-STR-AC/LH/LX-MIL*             
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC/CO/LH/UA-BOS/CHI/CLE/DTT/EWR/     
                      NYC/PHL/WAS-AC-BCN/BRU/DUS/FRA/HAM/     
                      LIS/LON/MAD/MUC/PAR/ROM/VIE/CPH-AC/LH-   
                      MIL*                                     
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC/CO/LH/UA-BOS/CHI/CLE/DTT/EWR/     
                      NYC/PHL/WAS-AC-GVA/ZRH-AC/LX-MIL*       
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC/CO/LH/UA-BOS/CHI/CLE/DTT/EWR/     
                      NYC/PHL/WAS-AC-BRU-AC/SN-MIL*           
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC/CO/LH/UA-BOS/CHI/CLE/DTT/EWR/     
                      NYC/PHL/WAS-AC-MAD/BCN-JK/IB/AZ/LX-     
                      MIL*                                     
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC/CO/LH/UA-BOS/CHI/CLE/DTT/EWR/     
                      NYC/PHL/WAS-AC-AMS-KL/AZ-MIL*           
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC/CO/LH/UA-BOS/CHI/CLE/DTT/EWR/     
                      NYC/PHL/WAS-AC-ATH-A3-MIL*               
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC/CO/LH/UA-BOS/CHI/CLE/DTT/EWR/     
                      NYC/PHL/WAS-AC-WAW-LO/AC-MIL*           
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC/CO/LH/UA-BOS/CHI/CLE/DTT/EWR/     
                      NYC/PHL/WAS-AC-BA/BD/SK/AZ-MIL*         
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC/CO/LH/UA-BOS/CHI/CLE/DTT/EWR/     
                      NYC/PHL/WAS-AC-AZ-MIL*                   
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC/CO/LH/UA-BOS/CHI/CLE/DTT/EWR/     
                      NYC/PHL/WAS-AC-ROM-AZ-MIL*               
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC/CO/LH/UA-BOS/CHI/CLE/DTT/EWR/     
                      NYC/PHL/WAS-AC-AMS/BRU/LON-AZ/AF-MIL*   
            FROM-TO  YOW-YMQ-AC/CO/LH/UA-BOS/CHI/CLE/DTT/     
                      EWR/NYC/PHL/WAS-AC-MIL*                 
            FROM-TO  YOW-YMQ-AC/CO/LH/UA-BOS/CHI/CLE/DTT/     
                      EWR/NYC/PHL/WAS-AC-AC/LH-MIL*           
            FROM-TO  YOW-YMQ-AC/CO/LH/UA-BOS/CHI/CLE/DTT/     
                      EWR/NYC/PHL/WAS-AC-AC/LH-AC/LH/LX-MIL*   
            FROM-TO  YOW-YMQ-AC/CO/LH/UA-BOS/CHI/CLE/DTT/     
                      EWR/NYC/PHL/WAS-AC-AC/LH-STR-AC/LH/LX-   
                      MIL*                                     
            FROM-TO  YOW-YMQ-AC/CO/LH/UA-BOS/CHI/CLE/DTT/     
                      EWR/NYC/PHL/WAS-AC-MUC/PAR/ROM/ZRH/     
                      WAW/VIE-AC/LH-MIL*                       
            FROM-TO  YOW-YMQ-AC/CO/LH/UA-BOS/CHI/CLE/DTT/     
                      EWR/NYC/PHL/WAS-AC-MUC/PAR/ROM/ZRH/     
                      WAW/VIE-AC/LH-AC/LH/LX-MIL*             
            FROM-TO  YOW-YMQ-AC/CO/LH/UA-BOS/CHI/CLE/DTT/     
                      EWR/NYC/PHL/WAS-AC-MUC/PAR/ROM/ZRH/     
                      WAW/VIE-AC/LH-STR-AC/LH/LX-MIL*         
            FROM-TO  YOW-YMQ-AC/CO/LH/UA-BOS/CHI/CLE/DTT/     
                      EWR/NYC/PHL/WAS-AC-BCN/BRU/DUS/FRA/     
                      HAM/LIS/LON/MAD/MUC/PAR/ROM/VIE/CPH-     
                      AC/LH-MIL*                               
            FROM-TO  YOW-YMQ-AC/CO/LH/UA-BOS/CHI/CLE/DTT/     
                      EWR/NYC/PHL/WAS-AC-GVA/ZRH-AC/LX-MIL*   
            FROM-TO  YOW-YMQ-AC/CO/LH/UA-BOS/CHI/CLE/DTT/     
                      EWR/NYC/PHL/WAS-AC-BRU-AC/SN-MIL*       
            FROM-TO  YOW-YMQ-AC/CO/LH/UA-BOS/CHI/CLE/DTT/     
                      EWR/NYC/PHL/WAS-AC-MAD/BCN-JK/IB/AZ/     
                      LX-MIL*                                 
            FROM-TO  YOW-YMQ-AC/CO/LH/UA-BOS/CHI/CLE/DTT/     
                      EWR/NYC/PHL/WAS-AC-AMS-KL/AZ-MIL*       
            FROM-TO  YOW-YMQ-AC/CO/LH/UA-BOS/CHI/CLE/DTT/     
                      EWR/NYC/PHL/WAS-AC-ATH-A3-MIL*           
            FROM-TO  YOW-YMQ-AC/CO/LH/UA-BOS/CHI/CLE/DTT/     
                      EWR/NYC/PHL/WAS-AC-WAW-LO/AC-MIL*       
            FROM-TO  YOW-YMQ-AC/CO/LH/UA-BOS/CHI/CLE/DTT/     
                      EWR/NYC/PHL/WAS-AC-BA/BD/SK/AZ-MIL*     
            FROM-TO  YOW-YMQ-AC/CO/LH/UA-BOS/CHI/CLE/DTT/     
                      EWR/NYC/PHL/WAS-AC-AZ-MIL*               
            FROM-TO  YOW-YMQ-AC/CO/LH/UA-BOS/CHI/CLE/DTT/     
                      EWR/NYC/PHL/WAS-AC-ROM-AZ-MIL*           
            FROM-TO  YOW-YMQ-AC/CO/LH/UA-BOS/CHI/CLE/DTT/     
                      EWR/NYC/PHL/WAS-AC-AMS/BRU/LON-AZ/AF-   
                      MIL*                                     
            FROM-TO  YOW-YHZ-YYT-AC-MIL*                     
            FROM-TO  YOW-YHZ-YYT-AC-AC/LH-MIL*               
            FROM-TO  YOW-YHZ-YYT-AC-AC/LH-AC/LH/LX-MIL*       
            FROM-TO  YOW-YHZ-YYT-AC-AC/LH-STR-AC/LH/LX-MIL*   
            FROM-TO  YOW-YHZ-YYT-AC-MUC/PAR/ROM/ZRH/WAW/     
                      VIE-AC/LH-MIL*                           
            FROM-TO  YOW-YHZ-YYT-AC-MUC/PAR/ROM/ZRH/WAW/     
                      VIE-AC/LH-AC/LH/LX-MIL*                 
            FROM-TO  YOW-YHZ-YYT-AC-MUC/PAR/ROM/ZRH/WAW/     
                      VIE-AC/LH-STR-AC/LH/LX-MIL*             
            FROM-TO  YOW-YHZ-YYT-AC-BCN/BRU/DUS/FRA/HAM/     
                      LIS/LON/MAD/MUC/PAR/ROM/VIE/CPH-AC/LH-   
                      MIL*                                     
            FROM-TO  YOW-YHZ-YYT-AC-GVA/ZRH-AC/LX-MIL*       
            FROM-TO  YOW-YHZ-YYT-AC-BRU-AC/SN-MIL*           
            FROM-TO  YOW-YHZ-YYT-AC-MAD/BCN-JK/IB/AZ/LX-     
                      MIL*                                     
            FROM-TO  YOW-YHZ-YYT-AC-AMS-KL/AZ-MIL*           
            FROM-TO  YOW-YHZ-YYT-AC-ATH-A3-MIL*               
            FROM-TO  YOW-YHZ-YYT-AC-WAW-LO/AC-MIL*           
            FROM-TO  YOW-YHZ-YYT-AC-BA/BD/SK/AZ-MIL*         
            FROM-TO  YOW-YHZ-YYT-AC-AZ-MIL*                   
            FROM-TO  YOW-YHZ-YYT-AC-ROM-AZ-MIL*               
            FROM-TO  YOW-YHZ-YYT-AC-AMS/BRU/LON-AZ/AF-MIL*


FlyerGoldII Jul 31, 2010 1:44 pm

This is what my AC source said, in response to your post (note- he/she has seen your post) - note, I am planning to purchase a Z fare ticket:

international fares have MPM ( maximum permitted mileages) and special fares allows specific routing like the YOW MIL permissible routing for the Z fare with a 30 days advance purchase.


In the top section of the example posted you will see MPM 4704, so it is the maximum permitted mileage without having to pay a surcharge ...

KVS Jul 31, 2010 2:38 pm


Originally Posted by FlyerGoldII (Post 14398721)
This is what my AC source said, in response to your post (note- he/she has seen your post) - note, I am planning to purchase a Z fare ticket:

international fares have MPM ( maximum permitted mileages) and special fares allows specific routing like the YOW MIL permissible routing for the Z fare with a 30 days advance purchase.

The fact that your "AC source" does not appear to be using the precise terminology makes no difference.


Originally Posted by FlyerGoldII (Post 14398721)
In the top section of the example posted you will see MPM 4704, so it is the maximum permitted mileage without having to pay a surcharge ...

Once again, MPM is not applicable to Routing-Based fares and must be disregarded.

FlyerGoldII Jul 31, 2010 4:29 pm


Originally Posted by KVS (Post 14398905)
The fact that your "AC source" does not appear to be using the precise terminology makes no difference.

Once again, MPM is not applicable to Routing-Based fares and must be disregarded.

So are you saying that the MPM information at the top of the fare box (in your previous post) is for information only, and it has no impact on the routing based fares?

uk1 Aug 1, 2010 1:56 am

KVS Tool Online Companion
 
Hi,

Can you tell me how to set up a user name and password for this please?

Also - are all functions available as for the desktop version?

Thanks.

miffSC Aug 1, 2010 9:29 am

When trying to pull up Seat Availability, I get the following message:

"The requested Method is currently unavailable.

If the reason(s) for the above error message are unclear, please visit www.KVStool to review the latest system status announcements."

Is that what this is?
[WSpan: ITN] & [Apollo: ITN] Methods Currently Unavailable 29 Jul 2010
In the meantime, elite-tier users should switch to [Sabre: ITN] or [Galileo: ETR] to ensure uninterrupted access. Further information will be posted as it becomes available.

And don't know how to use those. Only a Gold user. Options or suggestions?

Edit Note: I upgraded to Platinum and did not get credit for my remaining Gold time as per the website.

KVS Aug 1, 2010 11:08 am


Originally Posted by uk1 (Post 14400944)
Can you tell me how to set up a user name and password for this please?

Also - are all functions available as for the desktop version?

You will find your Online Companion username/password in the e-mail, which contained your membership credentials.

While the Online Companion is currently unavailable, you will soon be able to use the same username/password for the new Mobile Companion (please see the Beta sign-up link at http://www.KVSTool.com/).

KVS Aug 1, 2010 11:11 am


Originally Posted by miffSC (Post 14402127)
Edit Note: I upgraded to Platinum and did not get credit for my remaining Gold time as per the website.

This adjustment will be made once your upgrade request is fully processed, which will happen later on today.

In the meantime, you should have received your temporary Platinum-tier registration code and have immediate access to all of that level's features.

miffSC Aug 1, 2010 12:33 pm


In the meantime, you should have received your temporary Platinum-tier registration code and have immediate access to all of that level's features.
Thanks for the reply. Yes, I received my Temp Authorization code. Now, exactly where do I enter that when I open the KVS Tool - or do I do that on the webpage?

Thanks.

KVS Aug 1, 2010 2:23 pm


Originally Posted by miffSC (Post 14402943)
Thanks for the reply. Yes, I received my Temp Authorization code. Now, exactly where do I enter that when I open the KVS Tool - or do I do that on the webpage?

The Tool will automatically prompt you for the Registration Code, just as soon as you try to do something that requires a higher level membership.

Alternatively, you can click the http://www.kvstool.com/Images/Keys.gif button and select Re-Register.

uk1 Aug 2, 2010 1:28 am


Originally Posted by KVS (Post 14402612)
You will find your Online Companion username/password in the e-mail, which contained your membership credentials.

While the Online Companion is currently unavailable, you will soon be able to use the same username/password for the new Mobile Companion (please see the Beta sign-up link at http://www.KVSTool.com/).

Thanks ..... as normal I didn't read the email ....:)

Can you indicate when the service will be available please?

Presumably I can licence my portables and desktops in the interim?

Cheetah_SA Aug 2, 2010 1:07 pm

I can't connect to Awards/M&M - am getting messages 12029 (cannot connect) and 9002 (no data received). No problems with other access to other award methods or Sabre and internet connection test is fine.

KVS Aug 2, 2010 5:52 pm


Originally Posted by Cheetah_SA (Post 14408866)
I can't connect to Awards/M&M - am getting messages 12029 (cannot connect) and 9002 (no data received). No problems with other access to other award methods or Sabre and internet connection test is fine.

There were intermittent issues with the M&M servers earlier on today, which appear to have been resolved now.

Cheetah_SA Aug 2, 2010 10:32 pm

Thanks. It's back for me now.

travel.flier Aug 3, 2010 12:05 am

does anyone know why the lite version was discontinued? i just saw that note there today when trying to use KVS. that's a bummer! :( any other suggestions of what tool to use for someone who can't afford to pay, and really only needs the basic levels?

Keter Aug 3, 2010 1:24 am


Originally Posted by travel.flier (Post 14412298)
does anyone know why the lite version was discontinued? i just saw that note there today when trying to use KVS. that's a bummer! :( any other suggestions of what tool to use for someone who can't afford to pay, and really only needs the basic levels?

It looks like the reason is that one of the free sources for availability is gone.

KVS Aug 3, 2010 1:03 pm


Originally Posted by FlyerGoldII (Post 14399377)
So are you saying that the MPM information at the top of the fare box (in your previous post) is for information only, and it has no impact on the routing based fares?

That is correct.

djjaguar64 Aug 4, 2010 4:54 pm

Class Availabilty
 
Can anyone point me to another free tool, this one seems to have disappeared:

http://flyaow.com/classavailability.htm

KVS Aug 4, 2010 6:31 pm


Originally Posted by travel.flier (Post 14412298)
does anyone know why the lite version was discontinued? i just saw that note there today when trying to use KVS. that's a bummer! :( any other suggestions of what tool to use for someone who can't afford to pay, and really only needs the basic levels?

Unfortunately, after 6+ years of service [2004-2010], the last remaining Lite-tier availability data source recently got decommissioned. Gold is now the new 'base' level in the KVS Tool.

KVS Aug 4, 2010 6:35 pm


Originally Posted by uk1 (Post 14405898)
Thanks ..... as normal I didn't read the email ....:)

Can you indicate when the service will be available please?

Please sign-up for the KVS Tool Mobile Companion Beta via the link at http://www.KVSTool.com/


Originally Posted by uk1 (Post 14405898)
Presumably I can licence my portables and desktops in the interim?

You sure can.

KVS Aug 4, 2010 6:37 pm

Version 5.7.0 Release
 
Please note that an updated version (V5.7.0) of the KVS Tool is now available for download at http://www.KVSTool.com/

gleff Aug 4, 2010 6:38 pm

Yup, alrady did ^

ual744777sta Aug 4, 2010 6:39 pm

What does FS mean?

mwhite44 Aug 4, 2010 7:06 pm


Originally Posted by ual744777sta (Post 14424674)
What does FS mean?

Hi, long time fan, first time poster...

Probably FlightStats: http://www.flightstats.com/go/Flight...tyByRouteEx.do

Since this is apparently free to all, it would have been a good canidate to keep the Lite version going, oh well.

KVS Aug 4, 2010 7:15 pm


Originally Posted by ual744777sta (Post 14424674)
What does FS mean?

FS = Fast.

Speaking of being fast:


Originally Posted by gleff (Post 14424672)
Yup, alrady did ^


tomh009 Aug 4, 2010 7:51 pm


Originally Posted by KVS (Post 14424664)
Please note that an updated version (V5.7.0) of the KVS Tool is now available for download at http://www.KVSTool.com/

Still no Apollo or WSpan in 5.7? Do you expect to get those back?

sbm12 Aug 4, 2010 8:12 pm


Originally Posted by tomh009 (Post 14425046)
Still no Apollo or WSpan in 5.7? Do you expect to get those back?

Sounds like a no:

Originally Posted by KVS (Post 14424644)
Unfortunately, after 6+ years of service [2004-2010], the last remaining Lite-tier availability data source recently got decommissioned. Gold is now the new 'base' level in the KVS Tool.


Football Fan Aug 4, 2010 9:30 pm

Admittedly, I have not read all 81 pages (in my settings) of this thread, so this might have been discussed before, but one feature request I would have that I would really like would be sort of an auto-update function (with confirmation) so that one would not have to manually go through all stages of the download/install process for every update.

tomh009 Aug 5, 2010 5:05 am


Originally Posted by sbm12 (Post 14425173)
Sounds like a no:

I have a diamond-level KVS subscription so that isn't a problem. However, the Apollo/WSpan worked better for me than Sabre or Galileo.

pandaperth Aug 5, 2010 6:27 am

RTW Fares not showing forsome locations
 
Just been playing around looking at RTW fares using the Fares/DOT Res method

For both *A and OW airlines, the method fails for From: = LHR or CDG (or LON or PAR), but works for EDI and NCE

:confused:

sbm12 Aug 5, 2010 6:29 am


Originally Posted by tomh009 (Post 14426692)
I have a diamond-level KVS subscription so that isn't a problem. However, the Apollo/WSpan worked better for me than Sabre or Galileo.

Well, it is a problem in that the services no longer exist. Each of the different inventory services have different details from different carriers. Losing out on Apollo or Worldspan when they had the best (or only) view of data for a specific carrier is an unfortunate development, even if there are still other tools out there with different data in them. Such is the risk taken when relying on other sources to provide data for which there is no guarantee of delivery. All of the other websites can change their feeds at any time. That's what happened here.

tomh009 Aug 5, 2010 8:35 am


Originally Posted by sbm12 (Post 14426944)
Well, it is a problem in that the services no longer exist. Each of the different inventory services have different details from different carriers. Losing out on Apollo or Worldspan when they had the best (or only) view of data for a specific carrier is an unfortunate development, even if there are still other tools out there with different data in them. Such is the risk taken when relying on other sources to provide data for which there is no guarantee of delivery. All of the other websites can change their feeds at any time. That's what happened here.

Right ... life goes on. Too bad about losing the feeds, but KVS is still a great tool.


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