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-   -   KVS Availability Tool (https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/travel-tools/319244-kvs-availability-tool.html)

KVS Nov 25, 2008 10:19 am
Originally Posted by Fims (Post 10811057)
I have WinXP SP3, IE settings are fine as the rest of KVS works perfectly, just this TVN has this fish...
Originally Posted by edy4eva (Post 10809243)
Same issue with me
Have you been using the TVN Method excessively in the past?
Have you tried deleting your MSIE Cookies?

edy4eva Nov 25, 2008 1:29 pm
Thanks for that KVS, it was the cookies issue. I didn't think I needed to delete them, just followed the instructions on the FAQ (Accept First-party cookies).

typhoon Nov 26, 2008 8:28 am
Error 35764 still executing last request (Inet)
 
I'm getting this error message. I have cleared the fields and closed down, but it keeps popping back up when I try to run any search. I have disconnected the internet and reconnected but still no luck.

I have plat access and, to date, have had no issues using KVS.

Can you help please Mr KVS?

KVS Nov 26, 2008 8:51 am
Originally Posted by typhoon (Post 10816687)
I'm getting this error message. I have cleared the fields and closed down, but it keeps popping back up when I try to run any search. I have disconnected the internet and reconnected but still no luck.

I have plat access and, to date, have had no issues using KVS.

Can you help please Mr KVS?

Pls see http://Help.KVSTool.com/#Errors

typhoon Nov 26, 2008 8:56 am
Originally Posted by KVS (Post 10816849)
thanks for the speedy response Mr KVS, I had a firefox and IE window open and the IE went off line without me noticing.

Back online now.

SFO-RSW Nov 29, 2008 9:24 pm
Skyteam Awards -- AM, KE, KQ, UX showing (but not listed!)
 
Hi, KVS!

I note with pleasure that AM, KE, KQ, and UX now show up on Skyteam Award Searches (new), but aren't yet listed among the searchable airlines!

Seems that AZ, OK, and CZ still don't show up on the tool.

KVS Nov 30, 2008 1:08 pm
Originally Posted by SFO-RSW (Post 10831569)
Hi, KVS!

I note with pleasure that AM, KE, KQ, and UX now show up on Skyteam Award Searches (new), but aren't yet listed among the searchable airlines!

Seems that AZ, OK, and CZ still don't show up on the tool.
Yes, this was announced on 04 Nov 2008 :): http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showt...4#post10634074. CZ is also included. OK awards can be checked via [Sabre: ITN].

[KVS Availability Tool 3.3.2/Platinum - ORT: Awards/SkyTeam/US-NWA]
Code:
TYO  Tokyo Metro JP = HND NRT
BJS  Beijing Metro / Beijing Capital CN = PEK
MON  01 Dec 2008 / 1 Seat

Carrier  Flight From Depart    To  Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
--------- ------ ---- --------- ---- --------- ---- ---- ----------------
NW        29    NRT  18:15    PEK  21:40    330  0    CS+ CA-  YS- YA+
CZ        630    NRT  13:25    DLC  15:20    300  0    CS- CA-  YS+ YA-
 -> CZ    6137  DLC  18:20    PEK  19:45    321  0
KE        706    NRT  09:20    ICN  12:00    747  0    CS+ CA-  YS- YA-
 -> KE    869    ICN  13:00    DLC  13:20    737  0
 -> CZ    6133  DLC  15:30    PEK  17:05    321  0
KE        706    NRT  09:20    ICN  12:00    747  0    CS+ CA-  YS- YA-
 -> KE    869    ICN  13:00    DLC  13:20    737  0
 -> CZ    6139  DLC  16:40    PEK  18:20    300  0

SuperFlyBoy Dec 4, 2008 4:06 am
Seatmap not available: BOM-FRA, LH 757, 5 Dec, using any method.

KVS Dec 4, 2008 8:12 am
Originally Posted by SuperFlyBoy (Post 10853975)
Seatmap not available: BOM-FRA, LH 757, 5 Dec, using any method.
[KVS Availability Tool 3.3.2/Platinum - Amadeus Seat Map: 05 Dec 2008/LH 757/BOM-FRA/744/Y]
Code:
      A  B  C    |  D  E  F  G    |  H  J  K     
32 W      +  +                            -  -          E
33 W  +  +  +                            +  -  -      E
34 W  +  +  +        +  +  +  +        +  +  +     
35 W  -  -  -        -  -  +  -        -  +  +     
36 W  -  -  -        -  -  -  -        -  -  -     
37    -  -  -        -  -  -  -        -  -  -     
38    -  -  -        -  -  +  +        -  -  -     
39    -  -  -        -  +  -  +        -  -  -     
40    -  -  +        -  +  +  -        -  -  -     
41    +  +  -        +  +  +  +        -  +  +     
42    -  -  -        +  -  -  -        -  +  -     
43    -  -  -        -  -  +  -        -  -  -     
44    -  +  +        -  -  -  -        +  -  -     
45    -  -  -        -  -  -  -        -  -  -     
46    -  -  -        +  +  +  -        -  +  +     
47    -  -  +        +  +  +  -        +  -  -     
48    -  -  -        +  -  -  -        +  -  -     
49    -  +  -        -  +  +  +        +  -  -     
50    +  +  +        +  +  -  -        +  +  +     
51    -  -  -        -  -  -  -        -  -  -     
52    -  -  -        +  +  +  +        +  +  +     
53    -  -  -        -  +  -  -        +  -  -     
54        -  -        +  +  +  +        -  -         
55        -  +        +  +  +  +        +  -         
56        +  +        +  -  -  +        -  -         

[+] Available  [-] Unavailable  [W] Wing  [E] Exit Row

zman Dec 4, 2008 8:19 am
Fares TVN not working
 
Sabre fares TVN NOT working
getting error block

"Unable to Retreive Fares;
"Become a member"

KVS Dec 4, 2008 8:42 am
Originally Posted by zman (Post 10854779)
Sabre fares TVN NOT working
getting error block

"Unable to Retreive Fares;
"Become a member"
See http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showp...postcount=2167
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showp...postcount=2172

SuperFlyBoy Dec 4, 2008 9:40 am
Thanks - it's now working on my end - both EF and KVS were down, leading to assume that LH was blocking this info, due to the airport/aircraft hijack warnings in India...

zman Dec 5, 2008 11:34 am
I have never had the issue before
Deleting all cookies solves the problem BUT doing this is very painful as we loose all our good history information for other key log ins

If you could publish the exact cookie file name or names we could manually delete the infected cooke file from the cookies directory instaed of having to delete all.

KVS Dec 5, 2008 12:14 pm
Originally Posted by zman (Post 10861761)
I have never had the issue before
Deleting all cookies solves the problem BUT doing this is very painful as we loose all our good history information for other key log ins

If you could publish the exact cookie file name or names we could manually delete the infected cooke file from the cookies directory instaed of having to delete all.
YGPM!

FlyerGoldII Dec 14, 2008 6:14 am
1. For several fare searches on your tool - AC business class fares show only J class fares. There are discounted business class fares listed on the AC web site.

Example:

[KVS Availability Tool 3.3.2/Platinum - Sabre: Fares/DotRes/IT]
Code:
YOW  Ottawa Metro / Ottawa Int'l ON CA = YOW [CYOW]
ZRH  Zurich CH [LSZH]
SAT  14 Mar 2009 / SUN  22 Mar 2009 / RT

Carrier  From  To  Fare      Cur                      Fare Basis
--------- ------ ---- --------- ---- --------- ---- ---- ----------
AC        YOW    ZRH    9704  CAD                      J
AC        YOW    ZRH    8107  CAD                      JR

FlyerGoldII Dec 14, 2008 6:18 am
All the search functions on your KVS tool will not bring up information on YOW-AGP. The aircanada.ca web site does not bring it up either. However, other web sites (eg travelocity) do bring up such infromation.

FlyerGoldII Dec 14, 2008 6:26 am
Does the KVS tool display various pricing information and routing information for Star Alliance passes (RTW, others)?

FlyerGoldII Dec 14, 2008 6:29 am
Does the fare function truly show availability?


Example:

[KVS Availability Tool 3.3.2/Platinum - Sabre: Fares/DotRes/IT]
Code:
LHR  London Heathrow UK [EGLL]
AGP  Malaga ES [LEMG]
SAT  14 Mar 2009 / SUN  22 Mar 2009 / RT

Carrier  From  To  Fare      Cur                      Fare Basis
--------- ------ ---- --------- ---- --------- ---- ---- ----------
LX        LHR    AGP      35  CAD                      TSWISSUK
LX        LHR    AGP      84  CAD                      LSWISSUK
LX        LHR    AGP      162  CAD                      VSWISSUK
LX        LHR    AGP      305  CAD                      KSWISSUK
LX        LHR    AGP      327  CAD                      QSWISSUK
LX        LHR    AGP      422  CAD                      GSWISSUK
LX        LHR    AGP      543  CAD                      HSWISSUK
LX        LHR    AGP      718  CAD                      MSWISSUK
LX        LHR    AGP      913  CAD                      BSWISSUK
LX        LHR    AGP    1721  CAD                      YSWISSUK
When I go to the ITA web site or the LX web site, the cheapest fare is V class for those dates - even then, the fare is CAN$336 dollars total (implying taxes/fees are $200).

FlyerGoldII Dec 14, 2008 6:34 am
When I look for business class rates on Air NZ on several routes, on several dates, I can get only the list of economy class fares. Note- this same list comes up separately when I enter economy class, business class, or first class (of course, I realize Air NZ does not offer first class cabins).

Example:


[KVS Availability Tool 3.3.2/Platinum - Sabre: Fares/DotRes/IT]
Code:
YVR  Vancouver Metro / Vancouver Int'l BC CA = CXH YVR [CYVR]
AKL  Auckland Int'l NZ [NZAA]
WED  24 Jun 2009 / WED  22 Jul 2009 / RT

Carrier  From  To  Fare      Cur                      Fare Basis
--------- ------ ---- --------- ---- --------- ---- ---- ----------
NZ        YVR    AKL    1208  CAD                      KNZ11C
NZ        YVR    AKL    1408  CAD                      GNZ10C
NZ        YVR    AKL    1608  CAD                      SNZ10C
NZ        YVR    AKL    1868  CAD                      W3C
NZ        YVR    AKL    1988  CAD                      V3C
NZ        YVR    AKL    2268  CAD                      Q3C
NZ        YVR    AKL    2408  CAD                      H3C
NZ        YVR    AKL    2420  CAD                      W3COW
NZ        YVR    AKL    2576  CAD                      V3COW
NZ        YVR    AKL    2878  CAD                      M3C
NZ        YVR    AKL    2940  CAD                      Q3COW
NZ        YVR    AKL    3122  CAD                      H3COW
NZ        YVR    AKL    3538  CAD                      B3C
NZ        YVR    AKL    3732  CAD                      M3COW
NZ        YVR    AKL    3930  CAD                      O3C
NZ        YVR    AKL    4028  CAD                      Y3C
NZ        YVR    AKL    4430  CAD                      E3C
NZ        YVR    AKL    4590  CAD                      B3COW
NZ        YVR    AKL    5030  CAD                      U3C
NZ        YVR    AKL    5100  CAD                      O3COW
NZ        YVR    AKL    5228  CAD                      Y3COW
NZ        YVR    AKL    5750  CAD                      E3COW
NZ        YVR    AKL    6400  CAD                      Y
NZ        YVR    AKL    6530  CAD                      U3COW

PreferBulkhead Dec 14, 2008 12:38 pm
Are you looking for this type of information?

http://imgfreehost.com/out.php?i2491...00823459PM.jpg

Originally Posted by FlyerGoldII (Post 10905044)
1. For several fare searches on your tool - AC business class fares show only J class fares. There are discounted business class fares listed on the AC web site.

Example:

[KVS Availability Tool 3.3.2/Platinum - Sabre: Fares/DotRes/IT]
Code:
YOW  Ottawa Metro / Ottawa Int'l ON CA = YOW [CYOW]
ZRH  Zurich CH [LSZH]
SAT  14 Mar 2009 / SUN  22 Mar 2009 / RT

Carrier  From  To  Fare      Cur                      Fare Basis
--------- ------ ---- --------- ---- --------- ---- ---- ----------
AC        YOW    ZRH    9704  CAD                      J
AC        YOW    ZRH    8107  CAD                      JR

KVS Dec 14, 2008 12:40 pm
Originally Posted by FlyerGoldII (Post 10905044)
1. For several fare searches on your tool - AC business class fares show only J class fares. There are discounted business class fares listed on the AC web site.

Example:

[KVS Availability Tool 3.3.2/Platinum - Sabre: Fares/DotRes/IT]
Code:
YOW  Ottawa Metro / Ottawa Int'l ON CA = YOW [CYOW]
ZRH  Zurich CH [LSZH]
SAT  14 Mar 2009 / SUN  22 Mar 2009 / RT

Carrier  From  To  Fare      Cur                      Fare Basis
--------- ------ ---- --------- ---- --------- ---- ---- ----------
AC        YOW    ZRH    9704  CAD                      J
AC        YOW    ZRH    8107  CAD                      JR
It is a known issue with DotRes. You should use TVN with the Max option to see those fares:

[KVS Availability Tool 3.3.3/Platinum - Sabre: Fares/TVN/CA]
Code:
YOW  Ottawa Metro / Ottawa Int'l ON CA = YOW [CYOW]
ZRH  Zurich CH [LSZH]
RT  Dec-Nov

Carrier  From  To  Fare      Cur  Expiry    Min  Max  Fare Basis
--------- ------ ---- --------- ---- --------- ---- ---- ----------
AC        YOW    ZRH      455  USD            Sun  12M  N0MSLGT
AC        YOW    ZRH      496  USD            Sun  12M  N0MVSWT
AC        YOW    ZRH      572  USD            Sun  12M  N0MSKGT
AC        YOW    ZRH      682  USD            Sun  12M  K0MVSWT
AC        YOW    ZRH      757  USD            ***  12M  A0MVSW
AC        YOW    ZRH      801  USD            ***  12M  L0MVSW
AC        YOW    ZRH    1022  USD            ***  12M  Q0MVSW
AC        YOW    ZRH    1050  USD            Sun  12M  N0MSHGT
AC        YOW    ZRH    1132  USD            ***  12M  V0MVSW
AC        YOW    ZRH    1277  USD            ***  12M  H0MVSW
AC        YOW    ZRH    1404  USD            ***  12M  H0MVSWP
AC        YOW    ZRH    1498  USD            ***  12M  B0MVSW
AC        YOW    ZRH    1647  USD            ***  12M  B0MVSWP
AC        YOW    ZRH    1718  USD            ***  12M  U0MVSW
AC        YOW    ZRH    1992  USD            ***  12M  M0MVSW
AC        YOW    ZRH    2389  USD                12M  M0M0SW
AC        YOW    ZRH    2597  USD  12 Jan              Z0M0CT
AC        YOW    ZRH    3346  USD            Sun  12M  Z30MSSW
AC        YOW    ZRH    4096  USD              3  12M  Z0M3SW
AC        YOW    ZRH    4778  USD                12M  C0M0SW
AC        YOW    ZRH    5999  USD                      Y
AC        YOW    ZRH    6508  USD                      JR
AC        YOW    ZRH    7789  USD                      J

PreferBulkhead Dec 14, 2008 12:42 pm
Originally Posted by FlyerGoldII (Post 10905048)
All the search functions on your KVS tool will not bring up information on YOW-AGP. The aircanada.ca web site does not bring it up either. However, other web sites (eg travelocity) do bring up such infromation.
Do you have a particular date in mind? Here for instance is sample from Jan 4 2009:

http://imgfreehost.com/out.php?i2491...00824020PM.jpg

KVS Dec 14, 2008 12:42 pm
Originally Posted by FlyerGoldII (Post 10905048)
All the search functions on your KVS tool will not bring up information on YOW-AGP. The aircanada.ca web site does not bring it up either. However, other web sites (eg travelocity) do bring up such infromation.
Why not? :confused:
[KVS Availability Tool 3.3.3/Platinum - Sabre: Fares/TVN/CA]
Code:
YOW  Ottawa Metro / Ottawa Int'l ON CA = YOW [CYOW]
AGP  Malaga ES [LEMG]
RT  Dec-Nov

Carrier  From  To  Fare      Cur  Expiry    Min  Max  Fare Basis
--------- ------ ---- --------- ---- --------- ---- ---- ----------
AC        YOW    AGP      504  USD            Sun  12M  K0MSLXGT
AC        YOW    AGP      504  USD            Sun  12M  K0MSLXST
AC        YOW    AGP      569  USD            Sun  12M  K0MSLWGT
AC        YOW    AGP      569  USD            Sun  12M  K0MSLWST
AC        YOW    AGP      573  USD            Sun  12M  L0MSLXES
AC        YOW    AGP      582  USD            Sun  12M  K0MSKXGT
AC        YOW    AGP      637  USD            Sun  12M  L0MSLWES
AC        YOW    AGP      646  USD            Sun  12M  K0MSKWGT
AC        YOW    AGP      693  USD            Sun  12M  Q0MSLXES
AC        YOW    AGP      726  USD            Sun  12M  L0MSKXES
AC        YOW    AGP      757  USD            Sun  12M  Q0MSLWES
AC        YOW    AGP      790  USD            Sun  12M  L0MSKWES
AC        YOW    AGP      833  USD            Sun  12M  K0MSHXGT
AC        YOW    AGP      846  USD            Sun  12M  Q0MSKXES
AC        YOW    AGP      853  USD            Sun  12M  V0MSLXES
AC        YOW    AGP      897  USD            Sun  12M  K0MSHWGT
AC        YOW    AGP      910  USD            Sun  12M  Q0MSKWES
AC        YOW    AGP      917  USD            Sun  12M  V0MSLWES
AC        YOW    AGP      971  USD            Sun  12M  L0MSHXES
AC        YOW    AGP    1006  USD            Sun  12M  V0MSKXES
AC        YOW    AGP    1014  USD            Sun  12M  H0MSLXES
AC        YOW    AGP    1035  USD            Sun  12M  L0MSHWES
AC        YOW    AGP    1067  USD            Sun  12M  L0MSPXES
AC        YOW    AGP    1071  USD            Sun  12M  V0MSKWES
AC        YOW    AGP    1078  USD            Sun  12M  H0MSLWES
AC        YOW    AGP    1091  USD            Sun  12M  Q0MSHXES
AC        YOW    AGP    1131  USD            Sun  12M  L0MSPWES
AC        YOW    AGP    1156  USD            Sun  12M  Q0MSHWES
AC        YOW    AGP    1167  USD            Sun  12M  H0MSKXES
AC        YOW    AGP    1200  USD            Sun  12M  Q0MSPXES
AC        YOW    AGP    1231  USD            Sun  12M  H0MSKWES
AC        YOW    AGP    1252  USD            Sun  12M  V0MSHXES
AC        YOW    AGP    1264  USD            Sun  12M  Q0MSPWES
AC        YOW    AGP    1316  USD            Sun  12M  V0MSHWES

KVS Dec 14, 2008 12:47 pm
Originally Posted by FlyerGoldII (Post 10905057)
Does the KVS tool display various pricing information and routing information for Star Alliance passes (RTW, others)?
It used to in the past, but this functionality is not currently available.

KVS Dec 14, 2008 12:48 pm
Originally Posted by FlyerGoldII (Post 10905078)
When I look for business class rates on Air NZ on several routes, on several dates, I can get only the list of economy class fares. Note- this same list comes up separately when I enter economy class, business class, or first class (of course, I realize Air NZ does not offer first class cabins).

Example:
Thanks for the report -- I will look into this issue...

KVS Dec 14, 2008 12:53 pm
Originally Posted by FlyerGoldII (Post 10905066)
Does the fare function truly show availability?


Example:

[KVS Availability Tool 3.3.2/Platinum - Sabre: Fares/DotRes/IT]
Code:
LHR  London Heathrow UK [EGLL]
AGP  Malaga ES [LEMG]
SAT  14 Mar 2009 / SUN  22 Mar 2009 / RT

Carrier  From  To  Fare      Cur                      Fare Basis
--------- ------ ---- --------- ---- --------- ---- ---- ----------
LX        LHR    AGP      35  CAD                      TSWISSUK
LX        LHR    AGP      84  CAD                      LSWISSUK
LX        LHR    AGP      162  CAD                      VSWISSUK
LX        LHR    AGP      305  CAD                      KSWISSUK
LX        LHR    AGP      327  CAD                      QSWISSUK
LX        LHR    AGP      422  CAD                      GSWISSUK
LX        LHR    AGP      543  CAD                      HSWISSUK
LX        LHR    AGP      718  CAD                      MSWISSUK
LX        LHR    AGP      913  CAD                      BSWISSUK
LX        LHR    AGP    1721  CAD                      YSWISSUK
When I go to the ITA web site or the LX web site, the cheapest fare is V class for those dates - even then, the fare is CAN$336 dollars total (implying taxes/fees are $200).
That is correct. The fare is 163 CAD + 213 CAD in surcharges (65 EUR) & taxes.

FlyerGoldII Dec 14, 2008 2:08 pm
Originally Posted by KVS (Post 10906337)
Why not? :confused:
[KVS Availability Tool 3.3.3/Platinum - Sabre: Fares/TVN/CA]
Code:
YOW  Ottawa Metro / Ottawa Int'l ON CA = YOW [CYOW]
AGP  Malaga ES [LEMG]
RT  Dec-Nov

Carrier  From  To  Fare      Cur  Expiry    Min  Max  Fare Basis
--------- ------ ---- --------- ---- --------- ---- ---- ----------
AC        YOW    AGP      504  USD            Sun  12M  K0MSLXGT
AC        YOW    AGP      504  USD            Sun  12M  K0MSLXST
AC        YOW    AGP      569  USD            Sun  12M  K0MSLWGT
AC        YOW    AGP      569  USD            Sun  12M  K0MSLWST
AC        YOW    AGP      573  USD            Sun  12M  L0MSLXES
AC        YOW    AGP      582  USD            Sun  12M  K0MSKXGT
AC        YOW    AGP      637  USD            Sun  12M  L0MSLWES
AC        YOW    AGP      646  USD            Sun  12M  K0MSKWGT
AC        YOW    AGP      693  USD            Sun  12M  Q0MSLXES
AC        YOW    AGP      726  USD            Sun  12M  L0MSKXES
AC        YOW    AGP      757  USD            Sun  12M  Q0MSLWES
AC        YOW    AGP      790  USD            Sun  12M  L0MSKWES
AC        YOW    AGP      833  USD            Sun  12M  K0MSHXGT
AC        YOW    AGP      846  USD            Sun  12M  Q0MSKXES
AC        YOW    AGP      853  USD            Sun  12M  V0MSLXES
AC        YOW    AGP      897  USD            Sun  12M  K0MSHWGT
AC        YOW    AGP      910  USD            Sun  12M  Q0MSKWES
AC        YOW    AGP      917  USD            Sun  12M  V0MSLWES
AC        YOW    AGP      971  USD            Sun  12M  L0MSHXES
AC        YOW    AGP    1006  USD            Sun  12M  V0MSKXES
AC        YOW    AGP    1014  USD            Sun  12M  H0MSLXES
AC        YOW    AGP    1035  USD            Sun  12M  L0MSHWES
AC        YOW    AGP    1067  USD            Sun  12M  L0MSPXES
AC        YOW    AGP    1071  USD            Sun  12M  V0MSKWES
AC        YOW    AGP    1078  USD            Sun  12M  H0MSLWES
AC        YOW    AGP    1091  USD            Sun  12M  Q0MSHXES
AC        YOW    AGP    1131  USD            Sun  12M  L0MSPWES
AC        YOW    AGP    1156  USD            Sun  12M  Q0MSHWES
AC        YOW    AGP    1167  USD            Sun  12M  H0MSKXES
AC        YOW    AGP    1200  USD            Sun  12M  Q0MSPXES
AC        YOW    AGP    1231  USD            Sun  12M  H0MSKWES
AC        YOW    AGP    1252  USD            Sun  12M  V0MSHXES
AC        YOW    AGP    1264  USD            Sun  12M  Q0MSPWES
AC        YOW    AGP    1316  USD            Sun  12M  V0MSHWES
Thanks, to KVS and PreferBulkhead for the information.

FlyerGoldII Dec 14, 2008 2:22 pm
Originally Posted by KVS (Post 10906386)
That is correct. The fare is 163 CAD + 213 CAD in surcharges (65 EUR) & taxes.
Then why does your tool list the 2 cheaper fares, when they are not available?

KVS Dec 14, 2008 4:17 pm
Originally Posted by FlyerGoldII (Post 10906788)
Then why does your tool list the 2 cheaper fares, when they are not available?
Because you have used the Fares function. To request availability, you need to use one of the Availability Methods. Pls see http://Help.KVSTool.com/#Using for a step-by-step trip planning guide.

apirchik Dec 21, 2008 1:48 pm
What's up with the credit card contributions?
 
My license expires Dec 31st and I want to make a new contribution but I can't send cash from Israel. What are my options?

KVS Dec 21, 2008 2:58 pm
Originally Posted by apirchik (Post 10944280)
What's up with the credit card contributions?
Regretfully, Amazon had recently discontinued their Honors online payment platform with virtually no notice to its users: http://www.Amazon.com/gp/help/custom...?nodeId=542032

Originally Posted by apirchik (Post 10944280)
My license expires Dec 31st and I want to make a new contribution
Please use the payment contact form on www.KVSTool.com, and I will make the appropriate arrangements that would enable you to have uninterrupted access to the Platinum-tier features beyond 31 Dec.

Quickfire Dec 22, 2008 12:16 pm
Hi KVS,

I have identified two problems with the tool.

KVS Dec 22, 2008 12:58 pm
Originally Posted by Quickfire (Post 10948947)
Hi KVS,

I have identified two problems with the tool.
... And would you like to share what those would be? :)

expoguide Dec 23, 2008 12:48 pm
Need some help
 
Does anyone know if the KVS tool might be able to help me out in this situation:

I a little bit of a bind.. to make a long story short I need to get the fare rules for an airfrance booking code QJABUSIA for a ticket that I have already cancelled.. My Travel agent is being uncoperative and Air France wont help since I used an agent. I have the Air France Booking number and the Worldspan Trip locator but since the ticket has already been cancelled I can't get the information from any of the online tools I have tried.. can anyone think of anyway to get the information? It would be even better if I could get a copy of my reservation (fare rules, price etc...)

thanks in advance for any advice/help!

KVS Dec 23, 2008 12:54 pm
Originally Posted by expoguide (Post 10955013)
Does anyone know if the KVS tool might be able to help me out in this situation:

I a little bit of a bind.. to make a long story short I need to get the fare rules for an airfrance booking code QJABUSIA for a ticket that I have already cancelled.. My Travel agent is being uncoperative and Air France wont help since I used an agent. I have the Air France Booking number and the Worldspan Trip locator but since the ticket has already been cancelled I can't get the information from any of the online tools I have tried.. can anyone think of anyway to get the information? It would be even better if I could get a copy of my reservation (fare rules, price etc...)

thanks in advance for any advice/help!
What's the exact routing and date the ticket was originally booked?

expoguide Dec 23, 2008 12:57 pm
Exact routing is IAD-CDG-DEL on Dec 27 return DEl-CDG-IAD on Jan 11th Booked on Nov 03 Cancelled Dec 10.

KVS Dec 23, 2008 1:00 pm
Originally Posted by expoguide (Post 10955075)
Exact routing is IAD-CDG-DEL on Dec 27 return DEl-CDG-IAD on Jan 11th Booked on Nov 03 Cancelled Dec 10.
Here it is:

[KVS Availability Tool 3.3.3/Platinum - TVN: WAS-DEL/AF/QJABUSIA/1365 USD]
Code:
APEX NONREFUNDABLE

[RULE APPLICATION AND OTHER CONDITIONS]
SPECIAL NON-REFUNDABLE APEX FARES FROM THE UNITED STATES TO INDIA APPLICATION
AREA THESE FARES APPLY FROM UNITED STATES TO INDIA. CLASS OF
SERVICE THESE FARES APPLY FOR ECONOMY CLASS SERVICE. TYPES OF TRANSPORTATION
THIS RULE GOVERNS ROUND-TRIP FARES. FARES GOVERNED BY THIS RULE
CAN BE USED TO CREATE ROUND-TRIP/CIRCLE-TRIP/OPEN-JAW JOURNEYS. CAPACITY
LIMITATIONS THE CARRIER SHALL LIMIT THE NUMBER OF PASSENGERS CARRIED
ON ANY ONE FLIGHT AT FARES GOVERNED BY THIS RULE AND SUCH FARES
WILL NOT NECESSARILY BE AVAILABLE ON ALL FLIGHTS. THE NUMBER OF SEATS,
WHICH THE CARRIER SHALL MAKE AVAILABLE ON A GIVEN FLIGHT, WILL BE
DETERMINED BY THE CARRIER S BEST JUDGEMENT. RULES NOT APPLICABLE 35-
PASSENGER EXPENSES EN ROUTE. OTHER CONDITIONS THE FARE THAT APPLIES
ON THE DATE OF PURCHASE IS ONLY VALID FOR THE ENTIRE ITINERARY AND THE
SPECIFIC TRAVEL DATES MENTIONED ON THE TICKET. ANY MODIFICATION MAY
REQUIRE THE PAYMENT OF AN ADDITIONAL AMOUNT. FULL AND SEQUENTIAL USE
OF FLIGHT COUPONS- THE TICKET/ OR ELECTRONIC TICKET / IS NOT VALID IF
THE FIRST COUPON HAS NOT BEEN USED AND WILL NOT BE HONORED IF ALL THE
COUPONS ARE NOT USED IN THE SEQUENCE PROVIDED IN THE TICKET / OR ELECTRONIC
TICKET / .

[ELIGIBILITY]
NO ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENTS APPLY.

[DAY/TIME]
NO DAY/TIME TRAVEL RESTRICTIONS APPLY.

[SEASONALITY]
PERMITTED 15MAY THROUGH 05JUN OR 25OCT THROUGH 09NOV OR 24DEC THROUGH
10MAR ON THE OUTBOUND TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR. SEASON IS BASED ON DATE OF
ORIGIN.

[FLIGHT APPLICATION]
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT BE ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING ANY LH
FLIGHT ANY IB FLIGHT ANY LX FLIGHT ANY FC FLIGHT ANY SK FLIGHT ANY AA
FLIGHT ANY US FLIGHT ANY UA FLIGHT ANY UU FLIGHT ANY DT FLIGHT ANY PK
FLIGHT ANY JS FLIGHT ANY FG FLIGHT ANY GA FLIGHT ANY QZ FLIGHT ANY
3Y FLIGHT ANY RI FLIGHT ANY MZ FLIGHT ANY 7P FLIGHT ANY AW FLIGHT ANY
RW FLIGHT ANY NV FLIGHT ANY DC FLIGHT ANY QH FLIGHT ANY R8 FLIGHT ANY
O3 FLIGHT ANY I7 FLIGHT ANY ZC FLIGHT ANY Q4 FLIGHT ANY EO FLIGHT ANY
BA FLIGHT ANY W5 FLIGHT ANY UF FLIGHT ANY KF FLIGHT ANY C2 FLIGHT
ANY OD FLIGHT ANY K9 FLIGHT ANY X7 FLIGHT ANY FT FLIGHT ANY MQ FLIGHT.
AND IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL BETWEEN UNITED STATES AND
CANADA THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING ANY
DL FLIGHT.

[ADVANCE RESERVATIONS/TICKETING]
CONFIRMED RESERVATIONS ARE REQUIRED FOR ALL SECTORS. WHEN RESERVATIONS
ARE MADE AT LEAST 100 DAYS BEFORE DEPARTURE, TICKETING MUST BE COMPLETED
AT LEAST 93 DAYS BEFORE DEPARTURE. OR - CONFIRMED RESERVATIONS ARE
REQUIRED FOR ALL SECTORS. WHEN RESERVATIONS ARE MADE AT LEAST 11 DAYS
BEFORE DEPARTURE, TICKETING MUST BE COMPLETED WITHIN 7 DAYS AFTER
RESERVATIONS ARE MADE OR AT LEAST 10 DAYS BEFORE DEPARTURE WHICHEVER
IS EARLIER. OR - CONFIRMED RESERVATIONS ARE REQUIRED FOR ALL SECTORS.
TICKETING MUST BE COMPLETED WITHIN 1 DAY AFTER RESERVATIONS ARE MADE.
NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING. DIFFERENCE COULD
EXIST BETWEEN THE CRS LAST TICKETING DATE AND TTL ROBOT REMARK. THE MOST
RESTRICTIVE DATE PREVAILS.

[MINIMUM STAY]
TRAVEL FROM INBOUND TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR MUST COMMENCE NO EARLIER THAN
7 DAYS AFTER DEPARTURE OF THE OUTBOUND TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR.

[MAXIMUM STAY]
TRAVEL FROM LAST STOPOVER MUST COMMENCE NO LATER THAN 4 MONTHS AFTER DEPARTURE
FROM FARE ORIGIN.

[STOPOVERS]
2 FREE STOPOVERS PERMITTED - 1 IN EACH DIRECTION IN PAR.

[TRANSFERS]
UNLIMITED TRANSFERS PERMITTED IN EACH DIRECTION ON AF ONLY IN EACH DIRECTION.
FARE BREAK SURFACE SECTORS NOT PERMITTED AND EMBEDDED SURFACE
SECTORS PERMITTED ON THE FARE COMPONENT. OR - 3 TRANSFERS PERMITTED
IN EACH DIRECTION. 1 PERMITTED IN UNITED STATES IN EACH DIRECTION 1 PERMITTED
VIA AF ONLY IN FRANCE IN EACH DIRECTION 1 PERMITTED WITHIN THE
TURNAROUND COUNTRY IN EACH DIRECTION. FARE BREAK SURFACE SECTORS NOT
PERMITTED AND EMBEDDED SURFACE SECTORS PERMITTED ON THE FARE COMPONENT.

[COMBINATIONS]
DOUBLE OPEN JAWS NOT PERMITTED. ADD-ONS PERMITTED. END-ON-END END-ON-END
COMBINATIONS PERMITTED WITH DOMESTIC FARES BUT ARE NOT PERMITTED WITH
INTERNATIONAL FARES. VALIDATE ALL FARE COMPONENTS. FARES MUST BE
SHOWN SEPARATELY ON THE TICKET. TRAVEL MUST BE VIA THE POINT OF COMBINATION.
OPEN JAWS/ROUND TRIPS/CIRCLE TRIPS FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A
HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS -TO FORM SINGLE OPEN JAWS -TO FORM ROUND TRIPS/CIRCLE
TRIPS. PROVIDED - COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY REGULAR APEX/APEX
NONREFUNDABLE/SUPER/SPECIAL APEX/INSTANT PURCHASE FARE/INSTANT PURCHASE
NONREFUNDABLE-TYPE FARES/ SUPER/SPECIAL INSTANT PURCHASE/REGULAR
EXCURSION/ 2ND LEVEL SUPER/SPECIAL ADVANCE PURCHASE/3RD LEVEL ADVANCE
PURCHASE/2ND LEVEL INSTANT PURCHASE/2ND LEVEL INSTANT PURCHASE NONREF/3RD
LEVEL INSTANT PURCHASE/2ND LEVEL ADVANCE PURCHASE/SPECIAL EXCURSION
FARE/5TH LEVEL INSTANT PURCHASE/BUSINESS CLASS PROMOTIONAL-TYPE
FARES FOR CARRIER AF OR FOR CARRIER KL OR FOR CARRIER DL OR FOR CARRIER
NW IN ANY RULE IN TARIFF IPRA    - BETWEEN USA/CA-AREA 2/3 AND GUAM-AREA
2 IPRAI  - BETWEEN THE USA/CANADA-AREA 2/3 VIA ATL. NOTE - THE
CITY PAIRS BELOW ARE CONSIDERED THE SAME POINT - NYC-EWR

[BLACKOUT DATES]
NO BLACKOUT DATES APPLY.

[SURCHARGES]
MISCELLANEOUS/OTHER SURCHARGE OF USD 160.00 PER DIRECTION WILL BE ADDED
TO THE APPLICABLE FARE.

[ACCOMPANIED TRAVEL]
ACCOMPANIED TRAVEL NOT REQUIRED.

[TRAVEL RESTRICTIONS]
NO TRAVEL DATE RESTRICTIONS APPLY.

[SALES RESTRICTIONS]
NO SALES RESTRICTIONS APPLY.

[PENALTIES]
FARE RULE CHANGES  BEFORE DEPARTURE CHARGE USD 200.00. CHILD/INFANT DISCOUNTS
APPLY. NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING. -1- BEFORE
DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY AND BEFORE ORIGINALLY SCHEDULED FLIGHT --------------------------------------------------
THE NEW BASE FARE AMOUNT
MUST BE RECALCULATED USING CURRENT AND APPLICABLE FARES IN EFFECT
AT THE DATE OF REISSUE UNDER FOLLOWING CONDITIONS - CHANGE OR REROUTING
WITH SAME FARE BASIS -- SEASONS/MIDWEEK/WEEKEND MAY BE DIFFERENT
THE NEW BASE FARE AMOUNT MAY BE LOWER - EQUAL OR HIGHER THAN PREVIOUS
- CHANGE OR REROUTING OR UPG TO ANY SPECIAL FARE THE NEW BASE FARE AMOUNT
MUST BE EQUAL OR HIGHER THAN PREVIOUS - CHANGE OR REROUTING OR
UPG TO ANY NORMAL FARE THE NEW BASE FARE AMOUNT MAY BE LOWER - EQUAL
OR HIGHER THAN PREVIOUS ------------------------------------------------
 BEFORE DEPARTURE CHANGES NOT PERMITTED IN CASE OF NO-SHOW. NOTE
- TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING. -2- BEFORE DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY
BUT AFTER ORIGINALLY SCHEDULED FLIGHT /NO-SHOW/ --------------------------------------------------
CHANGES OR REROUTING ARE NOT PERMITTED
REFER TO REFUND CONDITIONS. --------------------------------------------------
 AFTER DEPARTURE CHARGE USD 200.00. CHILD/INFANT DISCOUNTS
APPLY. NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING. -3- AFTER
DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY --------------------------------------------------
THE NEW BASE FARE AMOUNT MUST BE RECALCULATED BY USING HISTORICAL
AND APPLICABLE FARES IN EFFECT AT THE ORIGINAL TICKET DATE UNDER
FOLLOWING CONDITIONS - CHANGE OR REROUTING WITH SAME FARE BASIS -- SEASONS/MIDWEEK/WEEKEND
MAY BE DIFFERENT THE NEW BASE FARE AMOUNT MAY BE
LOWER - EQUAL OR HIGHER THAN PREVIOUS - CHANGE OR REROUTING OR UPG
TO ANY SPECIAL FARER THE NEW BASE  FARE AMOUNT MUST BE EQUAL OR HIGHER
THAN PREVIOUS - CHANGE OR REROUTING OR UPG TO ANY NORMAL FARE THE NEW
BASE FARE AMOUNT MAY BE LOWER - EQUAL OR HIGHER THAN PREVIOUS  CANCELLATIONS
 BEFORE DEPARTURE CHARGE USD 200.00 FOR CANCEL. CHILD/INFANT
DISCOUNTS APPLY. NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
----------------  REFUND  ---------------------- -1- BEFORE DEPARTURE
OF JOURNEY AND BEFORE ORIGINALLY SCHEDULED FLIGHT TICKET IS REFUNDABLE
--------------------------------------------------  BEFORE DEPARTURE
TICKET IS NON-REFUNDABLE IN CASE OF NO-SHOW. NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT
VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING. -2- BEFORE DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY BUT AFTER
ORIGINALLY SCHEDULED FLIGHT /NO-SHOW/ --------------------------------------------------
TICKET IS NON REFUNDABLE -------------------------------------------------
 AFTER DEPARTURE TICKET IS NON-REFUNDABLE
IN CASE OF CANCEL. NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
-3- AFTER DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY --------------------------------------------------
TICKET IS NON REFUNDABLE -------------------------------------------------
 GENERAL RULE - APPLY UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED
NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING. AT ANY TIME - IN CASE
OF REFUND - PAPER TICKET SURCHARGE IS NOT REFUNDABLE WHEN APPLIED.

[HIP/MILEAGE EXCEPTIONS]
THE HIGHER INTERMEDIATE POINT RULE DOES NOT APPLY FOR CONNECTIONS. AND
- THE HIGHER INTERMEDIATE POINT RULE DOES NOT APPLY FOR STOPOVERS.

[TICKET ENDORSEMENTS]
THE ORIGINAL TICKET MUST BE ANNOTATED - NONREF - IN THE FORM OF PAYMENT
BOX. AND - THE ORIGINAL TICKET MUST BE ANNOTATED - NONEND/ TRANS/AF
ONLY - IN THE ENDORSEMENT BOX. THE REISSUED TICKET MUST BE ANNOTATED
- NONREF/SAPEX - IN THE FORM OF PAYMENT BOX.

[CHILDREN DISCOUNTS]
CNN/ACCOMPANIED CHILD PSGR 2-11 - CHARGE 75 PERCENT OF THE FARE. TICKET
DESIGNATOR - CH. MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN THE SAME COMPARTMENT
BY ADULT PSGR 18 OR OLDER. OR - INS/INFANT WITH A SEAT PSGR
UNDER 2 - CHARGE 75 PERCENT OF THE FARE. TICKET DESIGNATOR - CH. MUST
BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN THE SAME COMPARTMENT BY ADULT PSGR
18 OR OLDER. OR - 1ST INF/INFANT WITHOUT A SEAT PSGR UNDER 2 - CHARGE
10 PERCENT OF THE FARE. TICKET DESIGNATOR - IN. MUST BE ACCOMPANIED
ON ALL FLIGHTS IN THE SAME COMPARTMENT BY ADULT PSGR 18 OR OLDER. OR
- UNN/UNACCOMPANIED CHILD PSGR 5-11 - CHARGE 100 PERCENT OF THE FARE.
TICKET DESIGNATOR - UM.

[TOUR CONDUCTOR DISCOUNTS]
NO DISCOUNTS FOR TOUR CONDUCTORS.

[AGENT DISCOUNTS]
NO DISCOUNTS FOR SALE AGENTS.

[ALL OTHER DISCOUNTS]
NO DISCOUNTS FOR OTHERS.

[MISCELLANEOUS PROVISIONS]
NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING. THE FARE THAT APPLIES
ON THE DATE OF PURCHASE IS ONLY VALID FOR THE ENTIRE ITINERARY AND THE
SPECIFIC TRAVEL DATES MENTIONED ON THE TICKET. ANY MODIFICATION MAY
REQUIRE THE PAYMENT OF AN ADDITIONAL AMOUNT. FULL AND SEQUENTIAL USE
OF FLIGHT COUPONS- THE TICKET/ OR ELECTRONIC TICKET / IS NOT VALID
IF THE FIRST COUPON HAS NOT BEEN USED AND WILL NOT BE HONORED IF ALL
THE COUPONS ARE NOT USED IN THE SEQUENCE PROVIDED IN THE TICKET / OR
ELECTRONIC TICKET / .

[FARE BY RULE]
NOT APPLICABLE.

[GROUPS]
NO GROUP PROVISIONS APPLY.

[TOURS]
NO TOUR PROVISIONS APPLY.

[VISIT ANOTHER COUNTRY]
NO VISIT ANOTHER COUNTRY PROVISIONS APPLY.

[DEPOSITS]
NO DEPOSIT PROVISIONS APPLY.

[VOLUNTARY CHANGES]
ENTER RD*31 OR RD LINE NUM *31 FOR VOLUNTARY CHGS.

[NEGOTIATED FARES]
NOT APPLICABLE. IC.INTERNATIONAL CONSTRUCTION NOT A CONSTRUCTED FARE

Rambuster Dec 23, 2008 1:06 pm
Originally Posted by Quickfire (Post 10948947)
Hi KVS,

I have identified two problems with the tool.
And I have identified one problem with your post ! ;)

expoguide Dec 23, 2008 1:09 pm
Thanks so much for the quick reply and the information - Now I just need to find a way to pull up my exact reservation that shows that this is the fare code basis associated with my ticket - I assume this is not something that the KVS tool can do, correct?

Originally Posted by KVS (Post 10955086)
Here it is:

[KVS Availability Tool 3.3.3/Platinum - TVN: WAS-DEL/AF/QJABUSIA/1365 USD]
Code:
APEX NONREFUNDABLE

[RULE APPLICATION AND OTHER CONDITIONS]
SPECIAL NON-REFUNDABLE APEX FARES FROM THE UNITED STATES TO INDIA APPLICATION
AREA THESE FARES APPLY FROM UNITED STATES TO INDIA. CLASS OF
SERVICE THESE FARES APPLY FOR ECONOMY CLASS SERVICE. TYPES OF TRANSPORTATION
THIS RULE GOVERNS ROUND-TRIP FARES. FARES GOVERNED BY THIS RULE
CAN BE USED TO CREATE ROUND-TRIP/CIRCLE-TRIP/OPEN-JAW JOURNEYS. CAPACITY
LIMITATIONS THE CARRIER SHALL LIMIT THE NUMBER OF PASSENGERS CARRIED
ON ANY ONE FLIGHT AT FARES GOVERNED BY THIS RULE AND SUCH FARES
WILL NOT NECESSARILY BE AVAILABLE ON ALL FLIGHTS. THE NUMBER OF SEATS,
WHICH THE CARRIER SHALL MAKE AVAILABLE ON A GIVEN FLIGHT, WILL BE
DETERMINED BY THE CARRIER S BEST JUDGEMENT. RULES NOT APPLICABLE 35-
PASSENGER EXPENSES EN ROUTE. OTHER CONDITIONS THE FARE THAT APPLIES
ON THE DATE OF PURCHASE IS ONLY VALID FOR THE ENTIRE ITINERARY AND THE
SPECIFIC TRAVEL DATES MENTIONED ON THE TICKET. ANY MODIFICATION MAY
REQUIRE THE PAYMENT OF AN ADDITIONAL AMOUNT. FULL AND SEQUENTIAL USE
OF FLIGHT COUPONS- THE TICKET/ OR ELECTRONIC TICKET / IS NOT VALID IF
THE FIRST COUPON HAS NOT BEEN USED AND WILL NOT BE HONORED IF ALL THE
COUPONS ARE NOT USED IN THE SEQUENCE PROVIDED IN THE TICKET / OR ELECTRONIC
TICKET / .

[ELIGIBILITY]
NO ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENTS APPLY.

[DAY/TIME]
NO DAY/TIME TRAVEL RESTRICTIONS APPLY.

[SEASONALITY]
PERMITTED 15MAY THROUGH 05JUN OR 25OCT THROUGH 09NOV OR 24DEC THROUGH
10MAR ON THE OUTBOUND TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR. SEASON IS BASED ON DATE OF
ORIGIN.

[FLIGHT APPLICATION]
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT BE ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING ANY LH
FLIGHT ANY IB FLIGHT ANY LX FLIGHT ANY FC FLIGHT ANY SK FLIGHT ANY AA
FLIGHT ANY US FLIGHT ANY UA FLIGHT ANY UU FLIGHT ANY DT FLIGHT ANY PK
FLIGHT ANY JS FLIGHT ANY FG FLIGHT ANY GA FLIGHT ANY QZ FLIGHT ANY
3Y FLIGHT ANY RI FLIGHT ANY MZ FLIGHT ANY 7P FLIGHT ANY AW FLIGHT ANY
RW FLIGHT ANY NV FLIGHT ANY DC FLIGHT ANY QH FLIGHT ANY R8 FLIGHT ANY
O3 FLIGHT ANY I7 FLIGHT ANY ZC FLIGHT ANY Q4 FLIGHT ANY EO FLIGHT ANY
BA FLIGHT ANY W5 FLIGHT ANY UF FLIGHT ANY KF FLIGHT ANY C2 FLIGHT
ANY OD FLIGHT ANY K9 FLIGHT ANY X7 FLIGHT ANY FT FLIGHT ANY MQ FLIGHT.
AND IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL BETWEEN UNITED STATES AND
CANADA THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING ANY
DL FLIGHT.

[ADVANCE RESERVATIONS/TICKETING]
CONFIRMED RESERVATIONS ARE REQUIRED FOR ALL SECTORS. WHEN RESERVATIONS
ARE MADE AT LEAST 100 DAYS BEFORE DEPARTURE, TICKETING MUST BE COMPLETED
AT LEAST 93 DAYS BEFORE DEPARTURE. OR - CONFIRMED RESERVATIONS ARE
REQUIRED FOR ALL SECTORS. WHEN RESERVATIONS ARE MADE AT LEAST 11 DAYS
BEFORE DEPARTURE, TICKETING MUST BE COMPLETED WITHIN 7 DAYS AFTER
RESERVATIONS ARE MADE OR AT LEAST 10 DAYS BEFORE DEPARTURE WHICHEVER
IS EARLIER. OR - CONFIRMED RESERVATIONS ARE REQUIRED FOR ALL SECTORS.
TICKETING MUST BE COMPLETED WITHIN 1 DAY AFTER RESERVATIONS ARE MADE.
NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING. DIFFERENCE COULD
EXIST BETWEEN THE CRS LAST TICKETING DATE AND TTL ROBOT REMARK. THE MOST
RESTRICTIVE DATE PREVAILS.

[MINIMUM STAY]
TRAVEL FROM INBOUND TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR MUST COMMENCE NO EARLIER THAN
7 DAYS AFTER DEPARTURE OF THE OUTBOUND TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR.

[MAXIMUM STAY]
TRAVEL FROM LAST STOPOVER MUST COMMENCE NO LATER THAN 4 MONTHS AFTER DEPARTURE
FROM FARE ORIGIN.

[STOPOVERS]
2 FREE STOPOVERS PERMITTED - 1 IN EACH DIRECTION IN PAR.

[TRANSFERS]
UNLIMITED TRANSFERS PERMITTED IN EACH DIRECTION ON AF ONLY IN EACH DIRECTION.
FARE BREAK SURFACE SECTORS NOT PERMITTED AND EMBEDDED SURFACE
SECTORS PERMITTED ON THE FARE COMPONENT. OR - 3 TRANSFERS PERMITTED
IN EACH DIRECTION. 1 PERMITTED IN UNITED STATES IN EACH DIRECTION 1 PERMITTED
VIA AF ONLY IN FRANCE IN EACH DIRECTION 1 PERMITTED WITHIN THE
TURNAROUND COUNTRY IN EACH DIRECTION. FARE BREAK SURFACE SECTORS NOT
PERMITTED AND EMBEDDED SURFACE SECTORS PERMITTED ON THE FARE COMPONENT.

[COMBINATIONS]
DOUBLE OPEN JAWS NOT PERMITTED. ADD-ONS PERMITTED. END-ON-END END-ON-END
COMBINATIONS PERMITTED WITH DOMESTIC FARES BUT ARE NOT PERMITTED WITH
INTERNATIONAL FARES. VALIDATE ALL FARE COMPONENTS. FARES MUST BE
SHOWN SEPARATELY ON THE TICKET. TRAVEL MUST BE VIA THE POINT OF COMBINATION.
OPEN JAWS/ROUND TRIPS/CIRCLE TRIPS FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A
HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS -TO FORM SINGLE OPEN JAWS -TO FORM ROUND TRIPS/CIRCLE
TRIPS. PROVIDED - COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY REGULAR APEX/APEX
NONREFUNDABLE/SUPER/SPECIAL APEX/INSTANT PURCHASE FARE/INSTANT PURCHASE
NONREFUNDABLE-TYPE FARES/ SUPER/SPECIAL INSTANT PURCHASE/REGULAR
EXCURSION/ 2ND LEVEL SUPER/SPECIAL ADVANCE PURCHASE/3RD LEVEL ADVANCE
PURCHASE/2ND LEVEL INSTANT PURCHASE/2ND LEVEL INSTANT PURCHASE NONREF/3RD
LEVEL INSTANT PURCHASE/2ND LEVEL ADVANCE PURCHASE/SPECIAL EXCURSION
FARE/5TH LEVEL INSTANT PURCHASE/BUSINESS CLASS PROMOTIONAL-TYPE
FARES FOR CARRIER AF OR FOR CARRIER KL OR FOR CARRIER DL OR FOR CARRIER
NW IN ANY RULE IN TARIFF IPRA    - BETWEEN USA/CA-AREA 2/3 AND GUAM-AREA
2 IPRAI  - BETWEEN THE USA/CANADA-AREA 2/3 VIA ATL. NOTE - THE
CITY PAIRS BELOW ARE CONSIDERED THE SAME POINT - NYC-EWR

[BLACKOUT DATES]
NO BLACKOUT DATES APPLY.

[SURCHARGES]
MISCELLANEOUS/OTHER SURCHARGE OF USD 160.00 PER DIRECTION WILL BE ADDED
TO THE APPLICABLE FARE.

[ACCOMPANIED TRAVEL]
ACCOMPANIED TRAVEL NOT REQUIRED.

[TRAVEL RESTRICTIONS]
NO TRAVEL DATE RESTRICTIONS APPLY.

[SALES RESTRICTIONS]
NO SALES RESTRICTIONS APPLY.

[PENALTIES]
FARE RULE CHANGES  BEFORE DEPARTURE CHARGE USD 200.00. CHILD/INFANT DISCOUNTS
APPLY. NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING. -1- BEFORE
DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY AND BEFORE ORIGINALLY SCHEDULED FLIGHT --------------------------------------------------
THE NEW BASE FARE AMOUNT
MUST BE RECALCULATED USING CURRENT AND APPLICABLE FARES IN EFFECT
AT THE DATE OF REISSUE UNDER FOLLOWING CONDITIONS - CHANGE OR REROUTING
WITH SAME FARE BASIS -- SEASONS/MIDWEEK/WEEKEND MAY BE DIFFERENT
THE NEW BASE FARE AMOUNT MAY BE LOWER - EQUAL OR HIGHER THAN PREVIOUS
- CHANGE OR REROUTING OR UPG TO ANY SPECIAL FARE THE NEW BASE FARE AMOUNT
MUST BE EQUAL OR HIGHER THAN PREVIOUS - CHANGE OR REROUTING OR
UPG TO ANY NORMAL FARE THE NEW BASE FARE AMOUNT MAY BE LOWER - EQUAL
OR HIGHER THAN PREVIOUS ------------------------------------------------
 BEFORE DEPARTURE CHANGES NOT PERMITTED IN CASE OF NO-SHOW. NOTE
- TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING. -2- BEFORE DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY
BUT AFTER ORIGINALLY SCHEDULED FLIGHT /NO-SHOW/ --------------------------------------------------
CHANGES OR REROUTING ARE NOT PERMITTED
REFER TO REFUND CONDITIONS. --------------------------------------------------
 AFTER DEPARTURE CHARGE USD 200.00. CHILD/INFANT DISCOUNTS
APPLY. NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING. -3- AFTER
DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY --------------------------------------------------
THE NEW BASE FARE AMOUNT MUST BE RECALCULATED BY USING HISTORICAL
AND APPLICABLE FARES IN EFFECT AT THE ORIGINAL TICKET DATE UNDER
FOLLOWING CONDITIONS - CHANGE OR REROUTING WITH SAME FARE BASIS -- SEASONS/MIDWEEK/WEEKEND
MAY BE DIFFERENT THE NEW BASE FARE AMOUNT MAY BE
LOWER - EQUAL OR HIGHER THAN PREVIOUS - CHANGE OR REROUTING OR UPG
TO ANY SPECIAL FARER THE NEW BASE  FARE AMOUNT MUST BE EQUAL OR HIGHER
THAN PREVIOUS - CHANGE OR REROUTING OR UPG TO ANY NORMAL FARE THE NEW
BASE FARE AMOUNT MAY BE LOWER - EQUAL OR HIGHER THAN PREVIOUS  CANCELLATIONS
 BEFORE DEPARTURE CHARGE USD 200.00 FOR CANCEL. CHILD/INFANT
DISCOUNTS APPLY. NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
----------------  REFUND  ---------------------- -1- BEFORE DEPARTURE
OF JOURNEY AND BEFORE ORIGINALLY SCHEDULED FLIGHT TICKET IS REFUNDABLE
--------------------------------------------------  BEFORE DEPARTURE
TICKET IS NON-REFUNDABLE IN CASE OF NO-SHOW. NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT
VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING. -2- BEFORE DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY BUT AFTER
ORIGINALLY SCHEDULED FLIGHT /NO-SHOW/ --------------------------------------------------
TICKET IS NON REFUNDABLE -------------------------------------------------
 AFTER DEPARTURE TICKET IS NON-REFUNDABLE
IN CASE OF CANCEL. NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
-3- AFTER DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY --------------------------------------------------
TICKET IS NON REFUNDABLE -------------------------------------------------
 GENERAL RULE - APPLY UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED
NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING. AT ANY TIME - IN CASE
OF REFUND - PAPER TICKET SURCHARGE IS NOT REFUNDABLE WHEN APPLIED.

[HIP/MILEAGE EXCEPTIONS]
THE HIGHER INTERMEDIATE POINT RULE DOES NOT APPLY FOR CONNECTIONS. AND
- THE HIGHER INTERMEDIATE POINT RULE DOES NOT APPLY FOR STOPOVERS.

[TICKET ENDORSEMENTS]
THE ORIGINAL TICKET MUST BE ANNOTATED - NONREF - IN THE FORM OF PAYMENT
BOX. AND - THE ORIGINAL TICKET MUST BE ANNOTATED - NONEND/ TRANS/AF
ONLY - IN THE ENDORSEMENT BOX. THE REISSUED TICKET MUST BE ANNOTATED
- NONREF/SAPEX - IN THE FORM OF PAYMENT BOX.

[CHILDREN DISCOUNTS]
CNN/ACCOMPANIED CHILD PSGR 2-11 - CHARGE 75 PERCENT OF THE FARE. TICKET
DESIGNATOR - CH. MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN THE SAME COMPARTMENT
BY ADULT PSGR 18 OR OLDER. OR - INS/INFANT WITH A SEAT PSGR
UNDER 2 - CHARGE 75 PERCENT OF THE FARE. TICKET DESIGNATOR - CH. MUST
BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN THE SAME COMPARTMENT BY ADULT PSGR
18 OR OLDER. OR - 1ST INF/INFANT WITHOUT A SEAT PSGR UNDER 2 - CHARGE
10 PERCENT OF THE FARE. TICKET DESIGNATOR - IN. MUST BE ACCOMPANIED
ON ALL FLIGHTS IN THE SAME COMPARTMENT BY ADULT PSGR 18 OR OLDER. OR
- UNN/UNACCOMPANIED CHILD PSGR 5-11 - CHARGE 100 PERCENT OF THE FARE.
TICKET DESIGNATOR - UM.

[TOUR CONDUCTOR DISCOUNTS]
NO DISCOUNTS FOR TOUR CONDUCTORS.

[AGENT DISCOUNTS]
NO DISCOUNTS FOR SALE AGENTS.

[ALL OTHER DISCOUNTS]
NO DISCOUNTS FOR OTHERS.

[MISCELLANEOUS PROVISIONS]
NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING. THE FARE THAT APPLIES
ON THE DATE OF PURCHASE IS ONLY VALID FOR THE ENTIRE ITINERARY AND THE
SPECIFIC TRAVEL DATES MENTIONED ON THE TICKET. ANY MODIFICATION MAY
REQUIRE THE PAYMENT OF AN ADDITIONAL AMOUNT. FULL AND SEQUENTIAL USE
OF FLIGHT COUPONS- THE TICKET/ OR ELECTRONIC TICKET / IS NOT VALID
IF THE FIRST COUPON HAS NOT BEEN USED AND WILL NOT BE HONORED IF ALL
THE COUPONS ARE NOT USED IN THE SEQUENCE PROVIDED IN THE TICKET / OR
ELECTRONIC TICKET / .

[FARE BY RULE]
NOT APPLICABLE.

[GROUPS]
NO GROUP PROVISIONS APPLY.

[TOURS]
NO TOUR PROVISIONS APPLY.

[VISIT ANOTHER COUNTRY]
NO VISIT ANOTHER COUNTRY PROVISIONS APPLY.

[DEPOSITS]
NO DEPOSIT PROVISIONS APPLY.

[VOLUNTARY CHANGES]
ENTER RD*31 OR RD LINE NUM *31 FOR VOLUNTARY CHGS.

[NEGOTIATED FARES]
NOT APPLICABLE. IC.INTERNATIONAL CONSTRUCTION NOT A CONSTRUCTED FARE

FlyerGoldII Dec 25, 2008 5:01 am
[QUOTE=KVS;10906328]It is a known issue with DotRes. You should use TVN with the Max option to see those fares:

For YOW-AGP, TVN with max option does not give full fare economy rates, or any business class rates:

[KVS Availability Tool 3.3.3/Platinum - Sabre: Fares/TVN/CA]
Code:
YOW  Ottawa Metro / Ottawa Int'l ON CA = YOW [CYOW]
AGP  Malaga ES [LEMG]
RT  Dec-Nov

Carrier  From  To  Fare      Cur  Expiry    Min  Max  Fare Basis
--------- ------ ---- --------- ---- --------- ---- ---- ----------
AC        YOW    AGP      629  CAD            Sun  12M  K0MSLXST
AC        YOW    AGP      709  CAD            Sun  12M  K0MSLWST
AC        YOW    AGP      747  CAD            Sun  12M  L0MSLXES
AC        YOW    AGP      827  CAD            Sun  12M  L0MSLWES
AC        YOW    AGP      897  CAD            Sun  12M  Q0MSLXES
AC        YOW    AGP      938  CAD            Sun  12M  L0MSKXES
AC        YOW    AGP      977  CAD            Sun  12M  Q0MSLWES
AC        YOW    AGP    1018  CAD            Sun  12M  L0MSKWES
AC        YOW    AGP    1088  CAD            Sun  12M  Q0MSKXES
AC        YOW    AGP    1097  CAD            Sun  12M  V0MSLXES
AC        YOW    AGP    1168  CAD            Sun  12M  Q0MSKWES
AC        YOW    AGP    1177  CAD            Sun  12M  V0MSLWES
AC        YOW    AGP    1244  CAD            Sun  12M  L0MSHXES
AC        YOW    AGP    1288  CAD            Sun  12M  V0MSKXES
AC        YOW    AGP    1297  CAD            Sun  12M  H0MSLXES
AC        YOW    AGP    1324  CAD            Sun  12M  L0MSHWES
AC        YOW    AGP    1364  CAD            Sun  12M  L0MSPXES
AC        YOW    AGP    1368  CAD            Sun  12M  V0MSKWES
AC        YOW    AGP    1377  CAD            Sun  12M  H0MSLWES
AC        YOW    AGP    1394  CAD            Sun  12M  Q0MSHXES
AC        YOW    AGP    1444  CAD            Sun  12M  L0MSPWES
AC        YOW    AGP    1474  CAD            Sun  12M  Q0MSHWES
AC        YOW    AGP    1488  CAD            Sun  12M  H0MSKXES
AC        YOW    AGP    1529  CAD            Sun  12M  Q0MSPXES
AC        YOW    AGP    1568  CAD            Sun  12M  H0MSKWES
AC        YOW    AGP    1594  CAD            Sun  12M  V0MSHXES
AC        YOW    AGP    1609  CAD            Sun  12M  Q0MSPWES
AC        YOW    AGP    1674  CAD            Sun  12M  V0MSHWES


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