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Old Nov 11, 2014, 2:41 am
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Where does the KVS tool get its data and is KVS authorized to provide this data in the manner it is presented?

The tool is known to access a variety of web sites, many in a manner that is not authorized. Please see the next section of this Wiki for a list of sites believed to be accessed and their data access policies (where known).

Additionally, under some conditions the tool appears to access sites via a KVS-operated back end. This means that the tool is not just a 'web browser' that runs via a user's machine. No detailed public information is available about how this works or whether any of this back-end access is authorized.

Websites KVS Accesses and their relevant Terms of Use

http://book.aircanada.com/pl/AConlin...verrideServlet
http://book.aircanada.com/pl/AConlin...PreviewServlet
https://book.aircanada.com/pl/AConli...verrideServlet
https://www.aircanada.com
Terms of Use:
http://www.aircanada.com/en/about/legal/notice.html
Use of our web site for any other purpose, including any commercial use or purpose, is expressly prohibited.
Without limiting the generality of the foregoing, you agree that, in using or accessing our website, you shall not commit or participate in any of the following acts or actions, each of which is expressly prohibited under this User Agreement:
directly or indirectly, use or access, or encourage, solicit, permit, facilitate, aid, assist or abet, including, but not limited to, the selling, licensing, distribution or provision to any person of any means that permit, the use or access, or agree to provide the use or access, of our website through any manual process or any automatic, electronic or technical device, including but not limited to automated scripts, robots, crawls, screen scrapers, web "bots", deep-links, indexes, spiders, click-spams, macro programs, or any other device, program, software, system, algorithm, methodology or technology, now known or hereinafter discovered, that performs the same or a similar function, in order to, without limitation: "data mine"; "screen scrape"; data process; access, extract, copy, distribute, aggregate or acquire information; generate impressions or clicks; input or store information; search or generate searches; or manipulate or monitor any portion or content of our website;

http://data.flight24.com/flights/
Terms of Use:
http://www.flightradar24.com/terms-and-conditions
Website’s information and Services are provided for personal, non-commercial use only. Permission is granted to temporarily download one copy of the materials (information or software) on Flightradar24’s web site for personal, non-commercial transitory viewing only. This is the grant of a license, not a transfer of title, and under this license you may not:

Modify or copy the materials;
Use the materials for any commercial purpose, or for any public display (commercial or non-commercial);
Attempt to decompile or reverse engineer any software contained on Flightradar24's web site;
Remove any copyright or other proprietary notations from the materials; or
Transfer the materials to another person or "mirror" the materials on any other server.

This license shall automatically terminate if you violate any of these restrictions and may be terminated by Flightradar24 at any time. Upon terminating your viewing of these materials or upon the termination of this license, you must destroy any downloaded materials in your possession whether in electronic or printed format.

http://data.seatexpert.com/tpi/find.php
Terms of Use:

http://plane.lan.com/cgi-bin/recibo_...bo_eticket.cgi
Terms of Use:
http://www.lan.com/en_us/sitio_perso...-use/about-us/
You may use the information on our site solely for non-commercial purposes, and any use or modification of the website contents is not permitted.

http://reservations.usairways.com/Default.aspx
Terms of Use:
http://reservations.usairways.com/en-US/aboutus/site_usage_policy.html
Content may be used for non-commercial personal use only, and you agree not to modify, copy, transmit, distribute, display, perform, reproduce, publish, license, create derivative works from, sell or otherwise transfer any information, software, products or services obtained from the Site without prior written permission from US Airways. You agree not to use any automatic device, manual process, or scraping to monitor or copy the Site or the content contained therein for any purpose without US Airways’ prior written permission. You agree not to use any device, software or routine to interfere with or attempt to interfere with the proper working of the Site or any activities conducted on the Site.

https://book.austrian.com/app/fb.fly
Terms of Use:
http://www.austrian.com/Info/LegalRegulations/WebsiteTerms.aspx?sc_lang=en&cc=AT
2. Proprietary rights
All trademark rights, copyrights, database rights and other intellectual property rights to the contents of the Austrian-website, (as well as the organization and layout of the website), together with the underlying software code rest, either with Austrian or with its licensors. You may not, either in whole or in part, copy, modify, distribute or use or reproduce in other form contents of the Austrian-website, or the underlying software code, without the prior written consent of Austrian.

3. Permissible use
All Austrian-website online services (including the booking machine) are provided solely for the purpose of enabling you to check the availability of goods or services relating to your journey (the timetable, for example), make legitimate reservations, use our online check-in or transact other business with suppliers. You may only use the website in accordance with these terms and conditions and for the legally permitted purposes described above. In particular, you indicate your agreement to the following:
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3.5 You may not reproduce information from the Austrian-website for commercial purposes. This also includes providing prices for Austrian flights on another website or another online server. In particular you may not copy, distribute, in other way use or reproduce discarded content from the Austrian-website with the help of 'robots', other search machine technologies or through other automatic mechanisms.

https://booking.qatarairways.com/qri...Booking.action
Terms of Use:

https://book.tam.com.br/TAM/dyn/air/...ng/retrievePNR
Terms of Use:

https://classic.checkmytrip.com/plne...ievePNR.action
Terms of Use:
(D) not to use any automated system or software to extract data from the Application, Documents or Services for commercial purposes (such as screen scraping);

https://en.aegeanair.com
Terms of Use:

https://eservice.evaair.com
Terms of Use:

https://flymas.mobi/itravel/viewBooking.xhtml
Terms of Use:

https://fly.rj.com/MyBookings/Home/EN/Default.aspx
Terms of Use:

http://skyvector.com/airport/
Terms of Use:

https://m.aeroflot.ru/b/info/pnr/load
Terms of Use:

https://mm.alitalia.com/GB_EN/booking/apvsearch.aspx
Terms of Use:

https://mobile1.emirates.com/myb/review.xhtml
Terms of Use:

https://myb.s7.ru/getMyBooking.action
Terms of Use:

https://mytripandmore.com/Itinerary.aspx
Terms of Use:
https://mytripandmore.com/TermsAndConditions.aspx
Except as expressly permitted by these Terms, you may not:
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9. use any "robot", "spider" or other automatic device, software, program, algorithm, routine, methodology, or any manual process or functionality:
...to monitor, assemble, analyse, index, copy, transmit, distribute, transfer, or link to any of the pages, data, materials, or content available on the Site,

https://pilotweb.nas.faa.gov/PilotWe...yICAOAction.do
Terms of Use:

https://prefunds.aa.com/refunds/receipt
https://www.aa.com/reservation/findReservationSubmit.do
Terms of Use:
https://www.aa.com/i18n/footer/siteUsage.jsp
Intellectual property notifications
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D. American Airlines owns or uses by permission all software contained on the Site, including without limitation all HTML code and Active X controls. Copyright and other laws and international treaty provisions protect this software. The law expressly prohibits any modification, redistribution, or reproduction of the software, and such actions could result in severe civil and criminal penalties. American Airlines will seek and support prosecuting violators to the maximum extent possible.
E. You may not copy, display, distribute, download, license, modify, publish, re-post, reproduce, reuse, sell, transmit, use to create a derivative work, or otherwise use the content of the Site for public or commercial purposes. Nothing on the Site shall be construed to confer any grant or license of any intellectual property rights, whether by estoppel, by implication, or otherwise.
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Limitations on your use:
You agree that you will not Misuse the Site. "Misuse" includes, but is not limited to, using the Site to do any of the following:
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L. Copy or create derivative works from, display, distribute, license, perform, publish, recreate, reproduce, sell, transfer, or transmit any information, products, services, or software obtained by, from, or through the Site.
M. Monitor or copy any Content by using any manual process, or any robot, spider, or other automatic device, without first obtaining American Airlines' prior written consent.

https://raw.github.com/opentraveldat...i_airlines.csv
Terms of Use:

https://secure.jetairways.com/PlatformID/Identify.aspx
Terms of Use:

https://tickets.airtran.com/SeatAvailability.aspx
Terms of Use:
http://www.southwest.com/html/about-...ons/index.html
Prohibited Activities

You may not copy, display, distribute, download, license, modify, publish, re-post, reproduce, reuse, sell, transmit, use to create a derivative work, or otherwise use the content of this site for public or commercial purposes without our express written permission. Nothing on this site shall be construed to confer any grant or license of any intellectual property rights, whether by estoppel, by implication, or otherwise.

You may not modify, re-render, frame, mirror, truncate, add to, inject, filter or change the order of the information contained on any page of the Southwest Airlines sites, including, without limitation, by any way of reproducing Southwest Airlines or SWABiz® web pages or Company information on any other web site without our express written permission.

You may not copy, derive, edit, translate, decompile, reverse engineer, modify, use, or reproduce any code or source relating to our sites, including without limitation, any service or product Southwest offers.

You may not cause to appear any pop-up, pop-under, exit windows, expanding buttons, banners advertisement, or anything else which minimizes, covers, or otherwise inhibits the full display of the Southwest Airlines sites.

You may not use any deep-link, page-scrape, robot, crawl, index, spider, click spam, macro programs, Internet agent, or other automatic device, program, algorithm or methodology which does the same things, to use, access, copy, acquire information, generate impressions or clicks, input information, store information, search, generate searches, or monitor any portion of the Southwest Airlines sites or Company information.
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You may not disguise the origin of information transmitted to, from, or through the Southwest Airlines sites. You may not circumvent any measures implemented by Southwest Airlines aimed at preventing violations of the Use Agreement. You may not violate the restrictions in any robot exclusion header.

When you use the Southwest Airlines sites or Company information for an authorized purpose, you must include all proprietary notices without changing, hiding or deleting them.

You may not engage in any conduct that is, or that Southwest Airlines deems to be, in violation of this Use Agreement.

https://wftc3.e-travel.com
Terms of Use:

https://wtrweb.worldtracer.aero/WorldTracerWeb/pax.do
Terms of Use:

https://www121.jal.co.jp/JmbWeb/JR/S...MileCalc_en.do
Terms of Use:

https://www4.thy.com/mybookings/ETDisplay.tk
https://www4.thy.com/mybookings/getPnr.tk
Terms of Use:

https://www.airberlin.com/en-DE/cockpit
Terms of Use:

https://www.airfrance.fr/cgi-bin/AF/...chPnrAction.do
Terms of Use:

https://www.alaskaair.com/booking/reservationlookup
Terms of Use:

https://www.bookonline.saudiairlines...verride.action
https://www.bookonline.saudiairlines...verride.action
Terms of Use:

https://www.britishairways.com/trave...g/public/en_gb
Terms of Use:

https://www.checkmytrip.com/CMTSERVLET
Terms of Use:
https://www.checkmytrip.com/cmt/apf/...&SITE=NCMTNCMT
3. Licence restrictions

3.1 Except as expressly set out in this EULA or as permitted by any local law, you agree:
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(D) not to use any automated system or software to extract data from the Application, Documents or Services for commercial purposes (such as screen scraping);

https://www.delta.com/mytrips/findPnr.action
http://www.delta.com/ism/SeatMapDisplay.action
http://www.delta.com/shared/components/blank.jsp
Terms of Use:

https://www.finnair.com
Terms of Use:

https://www.flysas.com
Terms of Use:

https://www.iberia.com/web/retrievePNR.do
Terms of Use:

https://www.lot.com
Terms of Use:

https://www.lufthansa.com
Terms of Use:
http://www.lufthansa.com/online/port...d=2016866&l=en

2. Proprietary rights
...You may not, either in whole or in part, copy, modify, distribute or use or reproduce in other form contents of the Lufthansa-website, or the underlying software code, without the prior written consent of Deutsche Lufthansa AG.
https://www.routehappy.com/
Terms of Use:

https://www.swiss.com
Terms of Use:

https://www.tripforyou.net/t4u/PTopAction.do
Terms of Use:

https://www.tripple.jp
Terms of Use:

https://www.united.com/web/en-US/app...n/default.aspx
Terms of Use:
https://www.united.com/web/en-US/content/legal.aspx This website is for the User's personal, noncommercial use only. User agrees not to modify, copy, alter, distribute, transmit, display, perform, reproduce, publish, license, create derivative works from, transfer, or sell any information, software, products or services obtained from this website without United’s prior written permission. User agrees not to use any robot, spider, other automatic device, or manual process to monitor or copy this website or the content contained therein or for any other unauthorized purpose without United’s prior written permission. ... United reserves the right to investigate any illegal and/or unauthorized use of this website, including, but not limited to, unauthorized framing of this website or unauthorized use of any robot, spider or other automated device, and to take appropriate legal action, including, without limitation, civil, criminal and injunctive redress.

https://www.viewtrip.com/GetItin.aspx
Terms of Use:

https://www.virginamerica.com/book/ow/a1/
Terms of Use:

https://www.virgin-atlantic.com/en/g...ndBooking.next
Terms of Use:

https://www.virtuallythere.com/new/reservations.html
Terms of Use:

http://weather.noaa.gov/weather/current/
Terms of Use:

http://worldaerodata.com/wad.cgi
Terms of Use:

http://www.airframes.org/fleet/
Terms of Use:

http://www.cathaypacific.com/cx/en_H...oking-now.html
Terms of Use:

http://www.flightradar24.com/
Terms of Use:

http://www.FlightStats.com/go/Flight...ingByFlight.do
http://www.FlightStats.com/go/Flight...tusByFlight.do
Terms of Use:

http://www.flightview.com/TravelTool...eryResults.asp
http://www.flightview.com/TravelTools/viewairport.asp
Terms of Use:

http://www.gcmap.com/airport/
http://www.gcmap.com/mapui
Terms of Use:
http://www.gcmap.com/faq/using
Q: May I use the Great Circle Mapper's maps on my web page?
A: You may use maps generated by the Great Circle Mapper on non-commercial web pages (q.v. commericial use below) so long as you do not profit from them and you include the following credit on pages which include maps:
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Q: May I use the Great Circle Mapper's maps for commercial sites or publications?
A: Please write to Karl L. Swartz regarding terms for commercial use of the maps.

http://www.iata.org/about/members/Pa...line-list.aspx
Terms of Use:
http://www.iata.org/Pages/terms.aspx
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The content on this Site is for your personal use only within the organization or entity to which you are attached as applicable, and it is not intended for commercial exploitation unless expressly agreed in writing by IATA through a duly authorized representative. IATA authorizes you to download or reproduce selected materials at this Site only for your personal, non-commercial use, in the ordinary course of business provided that you retain all copyright and other proprietary notices contained in the original materials on any copies of the materials and that the title or database brand name and IATA name is stated as the source.

You may not otherwise modify, disassemble, create derivative works, distribute, reproduce, publicly display, perform, transmit, re-transmit, sell, rent, sublicense, or otherwise use any materials or content on this Site for commercial or non-commercial exploitation by yourself or the organization or entity to which you are attached or permit third parties to so do. Without limitation, unlimited or wholesale reproduction, copying of the content for commercial or non-commercial purposes and unwarranted modification of data and information within the content is not permitted, and any use of these materials on any other website or networked computer environment for any purpose without IATA’s prior written consent is prohibited.
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...You must not modify, decompile, or reverse engineer any software IATA discloses to you via this Site, and you must not remove, overprint, or deface any notice of copyright, trademark, logo, legend, or other notice of ownership from any originals or copies of software or information from the website. "IATA Trademarks" means all names, marks, brands, URL names or addresses, logos, designs, trade dress and other designations IATA uses in connection with Products or Services. You are not permitted to incorporate any IATA Trademarks into any other trademarks, service marks, company names, Internet addresses, domain names, or any other similar designations. Any unauthorized use of any materials contained on this website may violate copyright laws, trademark laws, the laws of privacy and publicity, and communications regulations and statutes.

http://www.itn.net/cgi/get
Terms of Use:

http://www.kenya-airways.com/kqbook.aspx
Terms of Use:

http://www.myairlines.ru
Terms of Use:

http://www.qantas.com.au/regions/do/dyn/checkmytrip
Terms of Use:

http://www.seatexpert.com/multiple_results.php
Terms of Use:

http://www.seatguru.com/ajax/findseatmap.php
Terms of Use:

http://www.seatmaestro.com/airlines-...eckmytrip.html
http://www.seatmaestro.com/themes/de...te_airline.php
Terms of Use:

http://www.seatplans.com/ajax/Airline
http://www.seatplans.com/ajax/airports-and-city
http://www.seatplans.com/find-and-compare/
Terms of Use:
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Old Nov 13, 2011, 1:06 pm
  #4531  
 
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Originally Posted by alanjrobertson
I appreciate the point you're attempting to make, KVS, but I disagree. In the practical way I want to use it - ie. searching for availability on a known route over a number of days - KVS is slower than ANA. TBH on my most recent award booking it was the free AwardNexus.com that did the trick, mainly as it can search multiple dates at once.

Anyway, we'll just need to agree to disagree - you've received my 2 months Diamond fee but I won't be renewing once this time is up.
same. also, the lack of native OSX support (i.e. without requiring parallel/vm solutions requiring $ 3rd party app) is disappointing.
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Old Nov 13, 2011, 1:16 pm
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Originally Posted by deniah
also, the lack of native OSX support (i.e. without requiring parallel/vm solutions requiring $ 3rd party app) is disappointing.
In practice, this hasn't been an issue for the many KVS Tool members, who continue to run the KVS Tool on their Macs every day:

http://Help.KVSTool.com/#Mac

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Old Nov 13, 2011, 1:38 pm
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Originally Posted by deniah
same. also, the lack of native OSX support (i.e. without requiring parallel/vm solutions requiring $ 3rd party app) is disappointing.
I am known to be critical of KVS at times, but I do not agree with this. KVS is natively available for PC only and that's it. There are thousands of such software packages available on the market and people do not stop using them or spit on them just because they are not available for other platforms.
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Old Nov 15, 2011, 10:34 pm
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Are there any active coupon codes for the annual membership? Thanks!!
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Old Nov 15, 2011, 10:42 pm
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Looks like Amadeus - Enhanced Seat Maps. I get the error:

"Error Retrieving Seat Map Data: Unable to initialize the Seat Map engine"

Hmmm...seems dependent on the query. Not all queries cause a problem, however clicking on any of the non-stop flights in the query below seem to give the error:

[KVS Availability Tool 6.7.0/Diamond - ITA: Awards-Upgrades/CO]
Code:
LAX  Los Angeles Intl CA US [KLAX]
IAH  Houston George Bush Intercnt'l TX US [KIAH]
FRI  09 Dec 2011

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
CO         1614    LAX   00:30     IAH   05:35     738      F9 JN9 A9 ZN9 PN9 R4 RN0 O0 IN0 I0 Y9 YN9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 HN9 Q9 V0 W0 S0 T0 L0 K0 G0 N0 XN0 X0 ON0
CO         1410    LAX   06:40     IAH   11:53     738      F9 JN9 A9 ZN9 PN9 R2 RN0 O0 IN0 I0 Y9 YN9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 HN9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 L9 K0 G0 N9 XN0 X0 ON0
CO         1744    LAX   07:50     IAH   13:05     753      F9 JN9 A9 ZN9 PN9 R9 RN0 O0 IN0 I0 Y9 YN9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 HN9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 L9 K9 G9 N9 XN9 X9 ON0
CO         1682    LAX   11:05     IAH   16:19     738      F9 JN9 A9 ZN9 PN9 R0 RN0 O0 IN0 I0 Y9 YN9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 HN9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 L9 K7 G7 N9 XN7 X0 ON0
CO         1565    LAX   11:51     IAH   17:05     738      F2 JN2 A2 ZN1 PN8 R0 RN0 O0 IN0 I0 Y9 YN9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 HN9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 L0 K0 G0 N0 XN0 X0 ON0
CO         46      LAX   12:30     IAH   17:44     753      F9 JN9 A9 ZN9 PN9 R7 RN0 O0 IN0 I0 Y9 YN9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 HN9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 L9 K9 G9 N9 XN9 X2 ON0
CO         1523    LAX   13:15     IAH   18:30     738      F9 JN9 A9 ZN9 PN9 R0 RN0 O0 IN0 I0 Y9 YN9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 HN9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 L5 K0 G0 N5 XN0 X0 ON0
CO         53      LAX   14:40     IAH   19:48     753      F9 JN9 A9 ZN9 PN9 R4 RN0 O0 IN0 I0 Y9 YN9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 HN9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 L9 K9 G9 N9 XN9 X9 ON0
CO         1046    LAX   17:15     IAH   22:21     753      F9 JN9 A9 ZN7 PN9 R0 RN0 O0 IN0 I0 Y9 YN9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 HN9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 L9 K9 G9 N9 XN9 X9 ON0
CO         1694    LAX   19:15     IAH   00:21 +1  738      F1 JN1 A1 ZN0 PN9 R0 RN0 O0 IN0 I0 Y9 YN9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 HN9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 L9 K9 G9 N9 XN9 X9 ON0
CO         1007    LAX   09:30     IAH   14:44     752      F0 JN0 A0 ZN0 PN5 R0 RN0 O0 IN0 I0 Y9 YN9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 HN9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 L9 K1 G1 N9 XN1 X0 ON0

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Old Nov 15, 2011, 11:09 pm
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Originally Posted by jasonvr
Looks like Amadeus - Enhanced Seat Maps. I get the error:
As this is a UA/CO-specific issue, the reply has been moved to the http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/conti...l#post17458523 thread.

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Old Nov 15, 2011, 11:20 pm
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Originally Posted by KVS
All of the above flights are actually non-stop. However, for some reason, the [Enhanced Seat Maps] Engine currently sees them as being UA-coded only, which, in turn, causes the error.
Odd, must be a recent change. I've checked these within the last few days. Maybe an effect of the merger?

Ohh, and I had trimmed out the connecting flights which is why they were all non-stop The query brings back connecting flights as well.

I also ran into something on another query with seat maps, maybe related? It was telling me that a certain cabin didn't exist on the flight. It was a CO flight and I was checking for business (which used to work). However it would let me bring up F which would be more typical of UA.
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Old Nov 15, 2011, 11:50 pm
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Originally Posted by jasonvr
Odd, must be a recent change. I've checked these within the last few days. Maybe an effect of the merger?
As this is a UA/CO-specific issue, the reply has also been moved to the http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/conti...l#post17458542 thread.
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Old Nov 16, 2011, 5:24 am
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First-time user, so apologies if the answer to this is obvious, but I've searched and can't figure it out:

Using the Awards/OneWorld method, I see there there is business class award availability on IB flights, but when I go to check availability in that bucket, nothing is returned. For example, searching IB 6274 (ORD-MAD) on 6/17/12 shows CS+ under Awards/Upgrades, but when I check U inventory under the Availability tab using Amadeus I get no results.

I'm searching for U based on the chart on the website -- should I be searching in a different bucket, or is there something I'm missing?
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Old Nov 16, 2011, 7:57 am
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Has the OW search using the BA engine broken overnight since they switched to Avios? I keep getting an error message when looking for some JL availability.
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Old Nov 16, 2011, 11:41 am
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Exclamation [Awards/BA-OneWorld] Method Temporarily Unavailable

Originally Posted by tomasem
Has the OW search using the BA engine broken overnight since they switched to Avios? I keep getting an error message when looking for some JL availability.
Indeed, this is a result of this overnight changeover. As soon as they finalize the new design, we will be releasing an updated version of the KVS Tool.
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Old Nov 16, 2011, 11:46 am
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Originally Posted by linglingfool
First-time user, so apologies if the answer to this is obvious, but I've searched and can't figure it out:
Welcome to the KVS Tool!

Originally Posted by linglingfool
Using the Awards/OneWorld method, I see there there is business class award availability on IB flights, but when I go to check availability in that bucket, nothing is returned. For example, searching IB 6274 (ORD-MAD) on 6/17/12 shows CS+ under Awards/Upgrades, but when I check U inventory under the Availability tab using Amadeus I get no results.

I'm searching for U based on the chart on the website -- should I be searching in a different bucket, or is there something I'm missing?
As with most Award Booking Classes, IB Award Availability should be searched via the [Awards/Upgrades] Tab in the KVS Tool.

Please see the table at http://Help.KVSTool.com/#AwardUpgradeClasses_OneWorld for details.

BTW, there is no "Amadeus" "under the Availability tab" .
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Old Nov 16, 2011, 7:20 pm
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Originally Posted by KVS
Welcome to the KVS Tool!


As with most Award Booking Classes, IB Award Availability should be searched via the [Awards/Upgrades] Tab in the KVS Tool.

Please see the table at http://Help.KVSTool.com/#AwardUpgradeClasses_OneWorld for details.

BTW, there is no "Amadeus" "under the Availability tab" .
Thanks for the quick reply. Sorry, meant Galileo, wrote the post in a hurry. Regardless, though -- if availability is shown in the awards/upgrades tab, I can ignore 0 inventory in the Availability tab for that award bucket?
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Old Nov 16, 2011, 8:26 pm
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Originally Posted by linglingfool
Thanks for the quick reply. Sorry, meant Galileo, wrote the post in a hurry. Regardless, though -- if availability is shown in the awards/upgrades tab, I can ignore 0 inventory in the Availability tab for that award bucket?
IB is known to have occasional issues with its Award Availability across different systems and the U Class showing-up in Regular Availability searches is something quite recent, so we don't yet have any authoritative data on this particular scenario...
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Old Nov 16, 2011, 8:29 pm
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Originally Posted by jmmlaguna
Are there any active coupon codes for the annual membership? Thanks!!
There are no Coupon Codes, but you are welcome to take advantage of the annual bonus that is automatically included in all of the 12-month membership options.
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