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Where does the KVS tool get its data and is KVS authorized to provide this data in the manner it is presented?

The tool is known to access a variety of web sites, many in a manner that is not authorized. Please see the next section of this Wiki for a list of sites believed to be accessed and their data access policies (where known).

Additionally, under some conditions the tool appears to access sites via a KVS-operated back end. This means that the tool is not just a 'web browser' that runs via a user's machine. No detailed public information is available about how this works or whether any of this back-end access is authorized.

Websites KVS Accesses and their relevant Terms of Use

http://book.aircanada.com/pl/AConlin...verrideServlet
http://book.aircanada.com/pl/AConlin...PreviewServlet
https://book.aircanada.com/pl/AConli...verrideServlet
https://www.aircanada.com
Terms of Use:

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http://www.aircanada.com/en/about/legal/notice.html
Use of our web site for any other purpose, including any commercial use or purpose, is expressly prohibited.
Without limiting the generality of the foregoing, you agree that, in using or accessing our website, you shall not commit or participate in any of the following acts or actions, each of which is expressly prohibited under this User Agreement:
directly or indirectly, use or access, or encourage, solicit, permit, facilitate, aid, assist or abet, including, but not limited to, the selling, licensing, distribution or provision to any person of any means that permit, the use or access, or agree to provide the use or access, of our website through any manual process or any automatic, electronic or technical device, including but not limited to automated scripts, robots, crawls, screen scrapers, web "bots", deep-links, indexes, spiders, click-spams, macro programs, or any other device, program, software, system, algorithm, methodology or technology, now known or hereinafter discovered, that performs the same or a similar function, in order to, without limitation: "data mine"; "screen scrape"; data process; access, extract, copy, distribute, aggregate or acquire information; generate impressions or clicks; input or store information; search or generate searches; or manipulate or monitor any portion or content of our website;

http://data.flight24.com/flights/
Terms of Use:

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http://www.flightradar24.com/terms-and-conditions
Website’s information and Services are provided for personal, non-commercial use only. Permission is granted to temporarily download one copy of the materials (information or software) on Flightradar24’s web site for personal, non-commercial transitory viewing only. This is the grant of a license, not a transfer of title, and under this license you may not:

Modify or copy the materials;
Use the materials for any commercial purpose, or for any public display (commercial or non-commercial);
Attempt to decompile or reverse engineer any software contained on Flightradar24's web site;
Remove any copyright or other proprietary notations from the materials; or
Transfer the materials to another person or "mirror" the materials on any other server.

This license shall automatically terminate if you violate any of these restrictions and may be terminated by Flightradar24 at any time. Upon terminating your viewing of these materials or upon the termination of this license, you must destroy any downloaded materials in your possession whether in electronic or printed format.

http://data.seatexpert.com/tpi/find.php
Terms of Use:

http://plane.lan.com/cgi-bin/recibo_...bo_eticket.cgi
Terms of Use:

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http://www.lan.com/en_us/sitio_perso...-use/about-us/
You may use the information on our site solely for non-commercial purposes, and any use or modification of the website contents is not permitted.

http://reservations.usairways.com/Default.aspx
Terms of Use:

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http://reservations.usairways.com/en-US/aboutus/site_usage_policy.html
Content may be used for non-commercial personal use only, and you agree not to modify, copy, transmit, distribute, display, perform, reproduce, publish, license, create derivative works from, sell or otherwise transfer any information, software, products or services obtained from the Site without prior written permission from US Airways. You agree not to use any automatic device, manual process, or scraping to monitor or copy the Site or the content contained therein for any purpose without US Airways’ prior written permission. You agree not to use any device, software or routine to interfere with or attempt to interfere with the proper working of the Site or any activities conducted on the Site.

https://book.austrian.com/app/fb.fly
Terms of Use:

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http://www.austrian.com/Info/LegalRegulations/WebsiteTerms.aspx?sc_lang=en&cc=AT
2. Proprietary rights
All trademark rights, copyrights, database rights and other intellectual property rights to the contents of the Austrian-website, (as well as the organization and layout of the website), together with the underlying software code rest, either with Austrian or with its licensors. You may not, either in whole or in part, copy, modify, distribute or use or reproduce in other form contents of the Austrian-website, or the underlying software code, without the prior written consent of Austrian.

3. Permissible use
All Austrian-website online services (including the booking machine) are provided solely for the purpose of enabling you to check the availability of goods or services relating to your journey (the timetable, for example), make legitimate reservations, use our online check-in or transact other business with suppliers. You may only use the website in accordance with these terms and conditions and for the legally permitted purposes described above. In particular, you indicate your agreement to the following:
...
3.5 You may not reproduce information from the Austrian-website for commercial purposes. This also includes providing prices for Austrian flights on another website or another online server. In particular you may not copy, distribute, in other way use or reproduce discarded content from the Austrian-website with the help of 'robots', other search machine technologies or through other automatic mechanisms.

https://booking.qatarairways.com/qri...Booking.action
Terms of Use:

https://book.tam.com.br/TAM/dyn/air/...ng/retrievePNR
Terms of Use:

https://classic.checkmytrip.com/plne...ievePNR.action
Terms of Use:

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(D) not to use any automated system or software to extract data from the Application, Documents or Services for commercial purposes (such as screen scraping);

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https://mytripandmore.com/TermsAndConditions.aspx
Except as expressly permitted by these Terms, you may not:
...
9. use any "robot", "spider" or other automatic device, software, program, algorithm, routine, methodology, or any manual process or functionality:
...to monitor, assemble, analyse, index, copy, transmit, distribute, transfer, or link to any of the pages, data, materials, or content available on the Site,

https://pilotweb.nas.faa.gov/PilotWe...yICAOAction.do
Terms of Use:

https://prefunds.aa.com/refunds/receipt
https://www.aa.com/reservation/findReservationSubmit.do
Terms of Use:

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https://www.aa.com/i18n/footer/siteUsage.jsp
Intellectual property notifications
...
D. American Airlines owns or uses by permission all software contained on the Site, including without limitation all HTML code and Active X controls. Copyright and other laws and international treaty provisions protect this software. The law expressly prohibits any modification, redistribution, or reproduction of the software, and such actions could result in severe civil and criminal penalties. American Airlines will seek and support prosecuting violators to the maximum extent possible.
E. You may not copy, display, distribute, download, license, modify, publish, re-post, reproduce, reuse, sell, transmit, use to create a derivative work, or otherwise use the content of the Site for public or commercial purposes. Nothing on the Site shall be construed to confer any grant or license of any intellectual property rights, whether by estoppel, by implication, or otherwise.
...
Limitations on your use:
You agree that you will not Misuse the Site. "Misuse" includes, but is not limited to, using the Site to do any of the following:
...
L. Copy or create derivative works from, display, distribute, license, perform, publish, recreate, reproduce, sell, transfer, or transmit any information, products, services, or software obtained by, from, or through the Site.
M. Monitor or copy any Content by using any manual process, or any robot, spider, or other automatic device, without first obtaining American Airlines' prior written consent.

https://raw.github.com/opentraveldat...i_airlines.csv
Terms of Use:

https://secure.jetairways.com/PlatformID/Identify.aspx
Terms of Use:

https://tickets.airtran.com/SeatAvailability.aspx
Terms of Use:

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http://www.southwest.com/html/about-...ons/index.html
Prohibited Activities

You may not copy, display, distribute, download, license, modify, publish, re-post, reproduce, reuse, sell, transmit, use to create a derivative work, or otherwise use the content of this site for public or commercial purposes without our express written permission. Nothing on this site shall be construed to confer any grant or license of any intellectual property rights, whether by estoppel, by implication, or otherwise.

You may not modify, re-render, frame, mirror, truncate, add to, inject, filter or change the order of the information contained on any page of the Southwest Airlines sites, including, without limitation, by any way of reproducing Southwest Airlines or SWABiz® web pages or Company information on any other web site without our express written permission.

You may not copy, derive, edit, translate, decompile, reverse engineer, modify, use, or reproduce any code or source relating to our sites, including without limitation, any service or product Southwest offers.

You may not cause to appear any pop-up, pop-under, exit windows, expanding buttons, banners advertisement, or anything else which minimizes, covers, or otherwise inhibits the full display of the Southwest Airlines sites.

You may not use any deep-link, page-scrape, robot, crawl, index, spider, click spam, macro programs, Internet agent, or other automatic device, program, algorithm or methodology which does the same things, to use, access, copy, acquire information, generate impressions or clicks, input information, store information, search, generate searches, or monitor any portion of the Southwest Airlines sites or Company information.
...
You may not disguise the origin of information transmitted to, from, or through the Southwest Airlines sites. You may not circumvent any measures implemented by Southwest Airlines aimed at preventing violations of the Use Agreement. You may not violate the restrictions in any robot exclusion header.

When you use the Southwest Airlines sites or Company information for an authorized purpose, you must include all proprietary notices without changing, hiding or deleting them.

You may not engage in any conduct that is, or that Southwest Airlines deems to be, in violation of this Use Agreement.

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https://www.checkmytrip.com/cmt/apf/...&SITE=NCMTNCMT
3. Licence restrictions

3.1 Except as expressly set out in this EULA or as permitted by any local law, you agree:
...
(D) not to use any automated system or software to extract data from the Application, Documents or Services for commercial purposes (such as screen scraping);

https://www.delta.com/mytrips/findPnr.action
http://www.delta.com/ism/SeatMapDisplay.action
http://www.delta.com/shared/components/blank.jsp
Terms of Use:

https://www.finnair.com
Terms of Use:

https://www.flysas.com
Terms of Use:

https://www.iberia.com/web/retrievePNR.do
Terms of Use:

https://www.lot.com
Terms of Use:

https://www.lufthansa.com
Terms of Use:

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http://www.lufthansa.com/online/port...d=2016866&l=en

2. Proprietary rights
...You may not, either in whole or in part, copy, modify, distribute or use or reproduce in other form contents of the Lufthansa-website, or the underlying software code, without the prior written consent of Deutsche Lufthansa AG.

https://www.routehappy.com/
Terms of Use:

https://www.swiss.com
Terms of Use:

https://www.tripforyou.net/t4u/PTopAction.do
Terms of Use:

https://www.tripple.jp
Terms of Use:

https://www.united.com/web/en-US/app...n/default.aspx
Terms of Use:

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https://www.united.com/web/en-US/content/legal.aspx This website is for the User's personal, noncommercial use only. User agrees not to modify, copy, alter, distribute, transmit, display, perform, reproduce, publish, license, create derivative works from, transfer, or sell any information, software, products or services obtained from this website without United’s prior written permission. User agrees not to use any robot, spider, other automatic device, or manual process to monitor or copy this website or the content contained therein or for any other unauthorized purpose without United’s prior written permission. ... United reserves the right to investigate any illegal and/or unauthorized use of this website, including, but not limited to, unauthorized framing of this website or unauthorized use of any robot, spider or other automated device, and to take appropriate legal action, including, without limitation, civil, criminal and injunctive redress.

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http://www.gcmap.com/faq/using
Q: May I use the Great Circle Mapper's maps on my web page?
A: You may use maps generated by the Great Circle Mapper on non-commercial web pages (q.v. commericial use below) so long as you do not profit from them and you include the following credit on pages which include maps:
...
Q: May I use the Great Circle Mapper's maps for commercial sites or publications?
A: Please write to Karl L. Swartz regarding terms for commercial use of the maps.

http://www.iata.org/about/members/Pa...line-list.aspx
Terms of Use:

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http://www.iata.org/Pages/terms.aspx
2. Your Conduct

The content on this Site is for your personal use only within the organization or entity to which you are attached as applicable, and it is not intended for commercial exploitation unless expressly agreed in writing by IATA through a duly authorized representative. IATA authorizes you to download or reproduce selected materials at this Site only for your personal, non-commercial use, in the ordinary course of business provided that you retain all copyright and other proprietary notices contained in the original materials on any copies of the materials and that the title or database brand name and IATA name is stated as the source.

You may not otherwise modify, disassemble, create derivative works, distribute, reproduce, publicly display, perform, transmit, re-transmit, sell, rent, sublicense, or otherwise use any materials or content on this Site for commercial or non-commercial exploitation by yourself or the organization or entity to which you are attached or permit third parties to so do. Without limitation, unlimited or wholesale reproduction, copying of the content for commercial or non-commercial purposes and unwarranted modification of data and information within the content is not permitted, and any use of these materials on any other website or networked computer environment for any purpose without IATA’s prior written consent is prohibited.
...
4. Intellectual Property Rights

...You must not modify, decompile, or reverse engineer any software IATA discloses to you via this Site, and you must not remove, overprint, or deface any notice of copyright, trademark, logo, legend, or other notice of ownership from any originals or copies of software or information from the website. "IATA Trademarks" means all names, marks, brands, URL names or addresses, logos, designs, trade dress and other designations IATA uses in connection with Products or Services. You are not permitted to incorporate any IATA Trademarks into any other trademarks, service marks, company names, Internet addresses, domain names, or any other similar designations. Any unauthorized use of any materials contained on this website may violate copyright laws, trademark laws, the laws of privacy and publicity, and communications regulations and statutes.

http://www.itn.net/cgi/get
Terms of Use:

http://www.kenya-airways.com/kqbook.aspx
Terms of Use:

http://www.myairlines.ru
Terms of Use:

http://www.qantas.com.au/regions/do/dyn/checkmytrip
Terms of Use:

http://www.seatexpert.com/multiple_results.php
Terms of Use:

http://www.seatguru.com/ajax/findseatmap.php
Terms of Use:

http://www.seatmaestro.com/airlines-...eckmytrip.html
http://www.seatmaestro.com/themes/de...te_airline.php
Terms of Use:

http://www.seatplans.com/ajax/Airline
http://www.seatplans.com/ajax/airports-and-city
http://www.seatplans.com/find-and-compare/
Terms of Use:

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Nov 21, 2011, 3:00 pm

#4561

KVS

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Quote:

Originally Posted by brengaz

Hi KVS - How about an actual mac version??

While there is no native Mac version, the distinction (especially in this day and age) is largely academic, as many KVS Tool members continue to enjoy successfully running it on their favourite Mac machines every day -- please see the http://Help.KVSTool.com/#Mac section for details and screenshots.

Nov 21, 2011, 4:00 pm

#4562

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KVS Tool: Version 6.8.0 Release -- What's New

Version 6.8.0 Release -- What's New:

New [Amadeus: Awards-Upgrades/EY] Method:
Etihad Airways [EY] Award & Upgrade Availability
Resolved: [Awards: BA-OneWorld] Method issues

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Nov 21, 2011, 5:32 pm

#4563

mahasamatman

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Location: GVA (Greater Vancouver Area)

Programs: DREAD Gold; UA 1.035MM; Bonvoy Au-197; PCC Elite+; CCC Elite+; MSC C-12; CWC Au-197; WoH Dis

Posts: 52,140

Quote:

Originally Posted by KVS

While there is no native Mac version, the distinction (especially in this day and age) is largely academic

Maybe to you, but not to millions of actual Mac users.

Nov 21, 2011, 6:15 pm

#4564

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mahasamatman

Maybe to you, but not to millions of actual Mac users.

Would they be the same users, who actually run the KVS Tool on their favourite Macs every day?

Nov 21, 2011, 8:45 pm

#4565

mahasamatman

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Quote:

Originally Posted by KVS

Would they be the same users, who actually run the KVS Tool on their favourite Macs every day?

You're talking maybe dozens of people. I'm talking millions, i.e. the same users who won't run Windows or anything Windows-related on a Mac.

Nov 21, 2011, 9:32 pm

#4566

jasonvr

Join Date: Feb 2005

Location: So Cal

Programs: UA Gold/0.744MM, WN AL, Hyatt Diamond, MR Scum, Hertz PC, National Exec, Avis PC

Posts: 5,562

Quote:

Originally Posted by mahasamatman

You're talking maybe dozens of people. I'm talking millions, i.e. the same users who won't run Windows or anything Windows-related on a Mac.

At the risk of fanning a flame here - you're talking about a choice, not an inability. The Mac users can run the Windows app but choose not to. This is the same as hardcore Linux/Unix users (and remember, Macs are really just running Unix/BSD at this point) who refuse to run Windows even though they could.

Bottom line - if they wanted to, they could, but choose not to.

Nov 22, 2011, 3:45 am

#4567

Bralo20

Join Date: Aug 2008

Location: BRU (Belgium)

Programs: UA

Posts: 318

Quote:

Originally Posted by jasonvr

I recently (about a year ago) changed everything (besides my computer at the office) to Apple (iMac, Mac Pro, Macbook Pro, iPad & iPhone). I installed KVS through CrossOver but unfortunately this doesn't seem to work too smoothly, it more then often crashes so a native Mac version would be welcomed very much.

But if it's not possible then it's not possible, I'll keep a Wintendo arround just for KVS

Nov 22, 2011, 3:47 am

#4568

deniah

Join Date: Jul 2008

Location: K+K

Programs: *G

Posts: 4,871

Quote:

Originally Posted by KVS

There is an additional cost incurred to run it on Mac. For a virtualization/parallels host and/or the operation system itself. It's a non-trivial issue.

Nov 22, 2011, 3:48 am

#4569

deniah

Join Date: Jul 2008

Location: K+K

Programs: *G

Posts: 4,871

msg me if you want to use my account. dont like it and wont continue using it

Nov 22, 2011, 8:32 am

#4570

KVS

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bralo20

I recently (about a year ago) changed everything (besides my computer at the office) to Apple (iMac, Mac Pro, Macbook Pro, iPad & iPhone). I installed KVS through CrossOver

We haven't had any other reports of this, but if the issues with CrossOver Mac persist, please consider one of the other solutions, listed at http://Help.KVSTool.com/#Mac

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bralo20

But if it's not possible then it's not possible, I'll keep a Wintendo arround just for KVS

Glad you feel that it is worth it! ^

Nov 27, 2011, 3:03 pm

#4571

zman

Join Date: Apr 2004

Posts: 5,630

Galileo ETR for flight searches not working
DataSource Error
the next line that usually has error code info is a line of garbage

Only alternate way to search for AA as Sabre GTC is also NOT operational

Nov 27, 2011, 3:17 pm

#4572

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Quote:

Originally Posted by zman

Galileo ETR for flight searches not working
DataSource Error
the next line that usually has error code info is a line of garbage

The [Galileo: ETR] Engine is temporarily unavailable, due to maintenance as of approx. 1 hour ago, but should be back up and running shortly -- please use the Mobile Companion during this time or PM your request, so that we can look it up in a different system.

Nov 28, 2011, 8:55 am

#4573

kryten22uk

Join Date: Jul 2005

Location: London

Posts: 2,385

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Nov 30, 2011, 9:56 pm

#4574

Ennj

Join Date: Nov 2011

Posts: 16

wondering if anyone can help me.

I'm trying to search for fares from LON-BKK, but the prices are way off and i've tried about 10 different combinations. For instance:

Method: Fares/DotRes/US]

Code:

LHR  London Heathrow UK [EGLL]
BKK  Bangkok Suvarnabhumi Intl TH [VTBS]
O/W  17 Dec 2011 | Economy

Carrier    From    To    Fare      Cur                      Fare Basis/TD
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  -------------
AB         LON     BKK       231   GBP                      WFLYOW
AB         LON     BKK       254   GBP                      EFLYOW
CA         LON     BKK       270   GBP                      VPXOGB1
WY         LON     BKK       278   GBP                      IOWGB
AB         LON     BKK       299   GBP                      PFLYOW
UN         LON     BKK       305   GBP                      HOW
RJ         LON     BKK       309   GBP                      MHSXGB1
TK         LON     BKK       314   GBP                      QPXGBOW
AB         LON     BKK       316   GBP                      OFLYOW
MS         LON     BKK       325   GBP                      QREGBO
CA         LON     BKK       330   GBP                      SPXOGB1
AB         LON     BKK       333   GBP                      QFLYOW
WY         LON     BKK       340   GBP                      KOWGB
CA         LON     BKK       350   GBP                      GPXOGB1
AB         LON     BKK       351   GBP                      NFLYOW
MS         LON     BKK       355   GBP                      HREGBO
TK         LON     BKK       358   GBP                      EGBEXOW
AB         LON     BKK       378   GBP                      SFLYOW
UL         LON     BKK       384   GBP                      APOW1GB
AI         LON     BKK       386   GBP                      GOWGB
MS         LON     BKK       389   GBP                      MREGBO
IT         LON     BKK       390   GBP                      QHOWGBT1
KU         LON     BKK       390   GBP                      BHOWGB1
AB         LON     BKK       404   GBP                      VFLYOW
TK         LON     BKK       408   GBP                      SGBEXOW
IT         LON     BKK       409   GBP                      NHOWGBT1
KC         LON     BKK       415   GBP                      KOWKC
GF         LON     BKK       416   GBP                      XHOWUK1
AI         LON     BKK       417   GBP                      WOWGB
AB         LON     BKK       430   GBP                      LFLYOW
UL         LON     BKK       434   GBP                      HPOW1GB
WY         LON     BKK       447   GBP                      BOWGB
AI         LON     BKK       448   GBP                      VOWGB
PK         LON     BKK       448   GBP                      KHOW6FGB
MS         LON     BKK       450   GBP                      BRSGBO
IT         LON     BKK       450   GBP                      SHOWGBT1
GF         LON     BKK       455   GBP                      KHOWUK1
KU         LON     BKK       457   GBP                      MHOWGB1
TK         LON     BKK       465   GBP                      HGBEXOW
UL         LON     BKK       470   GBP                      BPOW1GB
AB         LON     BKK       475   GBP                      MFLYOW
UL         LON     BKK       477   GBP                      KPOW1GB
CA         LON     BKK       477   GBP                      QHPXOE
AI         LON     BKK       478   GBP                      QOWGB
MU         LON     BKK       480   GBP                      MHOXEUT
TK         LON     BKK       484   GBP                      OZX1
PK         LON     BKK       498   GBP                      YHOW6FGB
IT         LON     BKK       499   GBP                      VHOWGBT1
CA         LON     BKK       501   GBP                      LHPXOE
WY         LON     BKK       502   GBP                      MOWGB

none of the prices i've checked from the different airline websites are correct, with or without tax

sorry if this is stupid. I've scanned read over the help on the program but I can't really see where i'm going wrong.

this can be used to search for cheap flight tickets right?

Nov 30, 2011, 10:15 pm

#4575

KVS

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ennj

wondering if anyone can help me.

I'm trying to search for fares from LON-BKK, but the prices are way off and i've tried about 10 different combinations. For instance:

Method: Fares/DotRes/US]

none of the prices i've checked from the different airline websites are correct, with or without tax

sorry if this is stupid. I've scanned read over the help on the program but I can't really see where i'm going wrong.

this can be used to search for cheap flight tickets right?

Have you followed all the steps at http://www.KVSTool.com/Planning-A-Trip.php?

Did you include both taxes and surcharges (http://Help.KVSTool.com/#Q20)?