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Old Nov 11, 2014, 2:41 am
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Where does the KVS tool get its data and is KVS authorized to provide this data in the manner it is presented?

The tool is known to access a variety of web sites, many in a manner that is not authorized. Please see the next section of this Wiki for a list of sites believed to be accessed and their data access policies (where known).

Additionally, under some conditions the tool appears to access sites via a KVS-operated back end. This means that the tool is not just a 'web browser' that runs via a user's machine. No detailed public information is available about how this works or whether any of this back-end access is authorized.

Websites KVS Accesses and their relevant Terms of Use

http://book.aircanada.com/pl/AConlin...verrideServlet
http://book.aircanada.com/pl/AConlin...PreviewServlet
https://book.aircanada.com/pl/AConli...verrideServlet
https://www.aircanada.com
Terms of Use:
http://www.aircanada.com/en/about/legal/notice.html
Use of our web site for any other purpose, including any commercial use or purpose, is expressly prohibited.
Without limiting the generality of the foregoing, you agree that, in using or accessing our website, you shall not commit or participate in any of the following acts or actions, each of which is expressly prohibited under this User Agreement:
directly or indirectly, use or access, or encourage, solicit, permit, facilitate, aid, assist or abet, including, but not limited to, the selling, licensing, distribution or provision to any person of any means that permit, the use or access, or agree to provide the use or access, of our website through any manual process or any automatic, electronic or technical device, including but not limited to automated scripts, robots, crawls, screen scrapers, web "bots", deep-links, indexes, spiders, click-spams, macro programs, or any other device, program, software, system, algorithm, methodology or technology, now known or hereinafter discovered, that performs the same or a similar function, in order to, without limitation: "data mine"; "screen scrape"; data process; access, extract, copy, distribute, aggregate or acquire information; generate impressions or clicks; input or store information; search or generate searches; or manipulate or monitor any portion or content of our website;

http://data.flight24.com/flights/
Terms of Use:
http://www.flightradar24.com/terms-and-conditions
Website’s information and Services are provided for personal, non-commercial use only. Permission is granted to temporarily download one copy of the materials (information or software) on Flightradar24’s web site for personal, non-commercial transitory viewing only. This is the grant of a license, not a transfer of title, and under this license you may not:

Modify or copy the materials;
Use the materials for any commercial purpose, or for any public display (commercial or non-commercial);
Attempt to decompile or reverse engineer any software contained on Flightradar24's web site;
Remove any copyright or other proprietary notations from the materials; or
Transfer the materials to another person or "mirror" the materials on any other server.

This license shall automatically terminate if you violate any of these restrictions and may be terminated by Flightradar24 at any time. Upon terminating your viewing of these materials or upon the termination of this license, you must destroy any downloaded materials in your possession whether in electronic or printed format.

http://data.seatexpert.com/tpi/find.php
Terms of Use:

http://plane.lan.com/cgi-bin/recibo_...bo_eticket.cgi
Terms of Use:
http://www.lan.com/en_us/sitio_perso...-use/about-us/
You may use the information on our site solely for non-commercial purposes, and any use or modification of the website contents is not permitted.

http://reservations.usairways.com/Default.aspx
Terms of Use:
http://reservations.usairways.com/en-US/aboutus/site_usage_policy.html
Content may be used for non-commercial personal use only, and you agree not to modify, copy, transmit, distribute, display, perform, reproduce, publish, license, create derivative works from, sell or otherwise transfer any information, software, products or services obtained from the Site without prior written permission from US Airways. You agree not to use any automatic device, manual process, or scraping to monitor or copy the Site or the content contained therein for any purpose without US Airways’ prior written permission. You agree not to use any device, software or routine to interfere with or attempt to interfere with the proper working of the Site or any activities conducted on the Site.

https://book.austrian.com/app/fb.fly
Terms of Use:
http://www.austrian.com/Info/LegalRegulations/WebsiteTerms.aspx?sc_lang=en&cc=AT
2. Proprietary rights
All trademark rights, copyrights, database rights and other intellectual property rights to the contents of the Austrian-website, (as well as the organization and layout of the website), together with the underlying software code rest, either with Austrian or with its licensors. You may not, either in whole or in part, copy, modify, distribute or use or reproduce in other form contents of the Austrian-website, or the underlying software code, without the prior written consent of Austrian.

3. Permissible use
All Austrian-website online services (including the booking machine) are provided solely for the purpose of enabling you to check the availability of goods or services relating to your journey (the timetable, for example), make legitimate reservations, use our online check-in or transact other business with suppliers. You may only use the website in accordance with these terms and conditions and for the legally permitted purposes described above. In particular, you indicate your agreement to the following:
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3.5 You may not reproduce information from the Austrian-website for commercial purposes. This also includes providing prices for Austrian flights on another website or another online server. In particular you may not copy, distribute, in other way use or reproduce discarded content from the Austrian-website with the help of 'robots', other search machine technologies or through other automatic mechanisms.

https://booking.qatarairways.com/qri...Booking.action
Terms of Use:

https://book.tam.com.br/TAM/dyn/air/...ng/retrievePNR
Terms of Use:

https://classic.checkmytrip.com/plne...ievePNR.action
Terms of Use:
(D) not to use any automated system or software to extract data from the Application, Documents or Services for commercial purposes (such as screen scraping);

https://en.aegeanair.com
Terms of Use:

https://eservice.evaair.com
Terms of Use:

https://flymas.mobi/itravel/viewBooking.xhtml
Terms of Use:

https://fly.rj.com/MyBookings/Home/EN/Default.aspx
Terms of Use:

http://skyvector.com/airport/
Terms of Use:

https://m.aeroflot.ru/b/info/pnr/load
Terms of Use:

https://mm.alitalia.com/GB_EN/booking/apvsearch.aspx
Terms of Use:

https://mobile1.emirates.com/myb/review.xhtml
Terms of Use:

https://myb.s7.ru/getMyBooking.action
Terms of Use:

https://mytripandmore.com/Itinerary.aspx
Terms of Use:
https://mytripandmore.com/TermsAndConditions.aspx
Except as expressly permitted by these Terms, you may not:
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9. use any "robot", "spider" or other automatic device, software, program, algorithm, routine, methodology, or any manual process or functionality:
...to monitor, assemble, analyse, index, copy, transmit, distribute, transfer, or link to any of the pages, data, materials, or content available on the Site,

https://pilotweb.nas.faa.gov/PilotWe...yICAOAction.do
Terms of Use:

https://prefunds.aa.com/refunds/receipt
https://www.aa.com/reservation/findReservationSubmit.do
Terms of Use:
https://www.aa.com/i18n/footer/siteUsage.jsp
Intellectual property notifications
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D. American Airlines owns or uses by permission all software contained on the Site, including without limitation all HTML code and Active X controls. Copyright and other laws and international treaty provisions protect this software. The law expressly prohibits any modification, redistribution, or reproduction of the software, and such actions could result in severe civil and criminal penalties. American Airlines will seek and support prosecuting violators to the maximum extent possible.
E. You may not copy, display, distribute, download, license, modify, publish, re-post, reproduce, reuse, sell, transmit, use to create a derivative work, or otherwise use the content of the Site for public or commercial purposes. Nothing on the Site shall be construed to confer any grant or license of any intellectual property rights, whether by estoppel, by implication, or otherwise.
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Limitations on your use:
You agree that you will not Misuse the Site. "Misuse" includes, but is not limited to, using the Site to do any of the following:
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L. Copy or create derivative works from, display, distribute, license, perform, publish, recreate, reproduce, sell, transfer, or transmit any information, products, services, or software obtained by, from, or through the Site.
M. Monitor or copy any Content by using any manual process, or any robot, spider, or other automatic device, without first obtaining American Airlines' prior written consent.

https://raw.github.com/opentraveldat...i_airlines.csv
Terms of Use:

https://secure.jetairways.com/PlatformID/Identify.aspx
Terms of Use:

https://tickets.airtran.com/SeatAvailability.aspx
Terms of Use:
http://www.southwest.com/html/about-...ons/index.html
Prohibited Activities

You may not copy, display, distribute, download, license, modify, publish, re-post, reproduce, reuse, sell, transmit, use to create a derivative work, or otherwise use the content of this site for public or commercial purposes without our express written permission. Nothing on this site shall be construed to confer any grant or license of any intellectual property rights, whether by estoppel, by implication, or otherwise.

You may not modify, re-render, frame, mirror, truncate, add to, inject, filter or change the order of the information contained on any page of the Southwest Airlines sites, including, without limitation, by any way of reproducing Southwest Airlines or SWABiz® web pages or Company information on any other web site without our express written permission.

You may not copy, derive, edit, translate, decompile, reverse engineer, modify, use, or reproduce any code or source relating to our sites, including without limitation, any service or product Southwest offers.

You may not cause to appear any pop-up, pop-under, exit windows, expanding buttons, banners advertisement, or anything else which minimizes, covers, or otherwise inhibits the full display of the Southwest Airlines sites.

You may not use any deep-link, page-scrape, robot, crawl, index, spider, click spam, macro programs, Internet agent, or other automatic device, program, algorithm or methodology which does the same things, to use, access, copy, acquire information, generate impressions or clicks, input information, store information, search, generate searches, or monitor any portion of the Southwest Airlines sites or Company information.
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You may not disguise the origin of information transmitted to, from, or through the Southwest Airlines sites. You may not circumvent any measures implemented by Southwest Airlines aimed at preventing violations of the Use Agreement. You may not violate the restrictions in any robot exclusion header.

When you use the Southwest Airlines sites or Company information for an authorized purpose, you must include all proprietary notices without changing, hiding or deleting them.

You may not engage in any conduct that is, or that Southwest Airlines deems to be, in violation of this Use Agreement.

https://wftc3.e-travel.com
Terms of Use:

https://wtrweb.worldtracer.aero/WorldTracerWeb/pax.do
Terms of Use:

https://www121.jal.co.jp/JmbWeb/JR/S...MileCalc_en.do
Terms of Use:

https://www4.thy.com/mybookings/ETDisplay.tk
https://www4.thy.com/mybookings/getPnr.tk
Terms of Use:

https://www.airberlin.com/en-DE/cockpit
Terms of Use:

https://www.airfrance.fr/cgi-bin/AF/...chPnrAction.do
Terms of Use:

https://www.alaskaair.com/booking/reservationlookup
Terms of Use:

https://www.bookonline.saudiairlines...verride.action
https://www.bookonline.saudiairlines...verride.action
Terms of Use:

https://www.britishairways.com/trave...g/public/en_gb
Terms of Use:

https://www.checkmytrip.com/CMTSERVLET
Terms of Use:
https://www.checkmytrip.com/cmt/apf/...&SITE=NCMTNCMT
3. Licence restrictions

3.1 Except as expressly set out in this EULA or as permitted by any local law, you agree:
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(D) not to use any automated system or software to extract data from the Application, Documents or Services for commercial purposes (such as screen scraping);

https://www.delta.com/mytrips/findPnr.action
http://www.delta.com/ism/SeatMapDisplay.action
http://www.delta.com/shared/components/blank.jsp
Terms of Use:

https://www.finnair.com
Terms of Use:

https://www.flysas.com
Terms of Use:

https://www.iberia.com/web/retrievePNR.do
Terms of Use:

https://www.lot.com
Terms of Use:

https://www.lufthansa.com
Terms of Use:
http://www.lufthansa.com/online/port...d=2016866&l=en

2. Proprietary rights
...You may not, either in whole or in part, copy, modify, distribute or use or reproduce in other form contents of the Lufthansa-website, or the underlying software code, without the prior written consent of Deutsche Lufthansa AG.
https://www.routehappy.com/
Terms of Use:

https://www.swiss.com
Terms of Use:

https://www.tripforyou.net/t4u/PTopAction.do
Terms of Use:

https://www.tripple.jp
Terms of Use:

https://www.united.com/web/en-US/app...n/default.aspx
Terms of Use:
https://www.united.com/web/en-US/content/legal.aspx This website is for the User's personal, noncommercial use only. User agrees not to modify, copy, alter, distribute, transmit, display, perform, reproduce, publish, license, create derivative works from, transfer, or sell any information, software, products or services obtained from this website without United’s prior written permission. User agrees not to use any robot, spider, other automatic device, or manual process to monitor or copy this website or the content contained therein or for any other unauthorized purpose without United’s prior written permission. ... United reserves the right to investigate any illegal and/or unauthorized use of this website, including, but not limited to, unauthorized framing of this website or unauthorized use of any robot, spider or other automated device, and to take appropriate legal action, including, without limitation, civil, criminal and injunctive redress.

https://www.viewtrip.com/GetItin.aspx
Terms of Use:

https://www.virginamerica.com/book/ow/a1/
Terms of Use:

https://www.virgin-atlantic.com/en/g...ndBooking.next
Terms of Use:

https://www.virtuallythere.com/new/reservations.html
Terms of Use:

http://weather.noaa.gov/weather/current/
Terms of Use:

http://worldaerodata.com/wad.cgi
Terms of Use:

http://www.airframes.org/fleet/
Terms of Use:

http://www.cathaypacific.com/cx/en_H...oking-now.html
Terms of Use:

http://www.flightradar24.com/
Terms of Use:

http://www.FlightStats.com/go/Flight...ingByFlight.do
http://www.FlightStats.com/go/Flight...tusByFlight.do
Terms of Use:

http://www.flightview.com/TravelTool...eryResults.asp
http://www.flightview.com/TravelTools/viewairport.asp
Terms of Use:

http://www.gcmap.com/airport/
http://www.gcmap.com/mapui
Terms of Use:
http://www.gcmap.com/faq/using
Q: May I use the Great Circle Mapper's maps on my web page?
A: You may use maps generated by the Great Circle Mapper on non-commercial web pages (q.v. commericial use below) so long as you do not profit from them and you include the following credit on pages which include maps:
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Q: May I use the Great Circle Mapper's maps for commercial sites or publications?
A: Please write to Karl L. Swartz regarding terms for commercial use of the maps.

http://www.iata.org/about/members/Pa...line-list.aspx
Terms of Use:
http://www.iata.org/Pages/terms.aspx
2. Your Conduct

The content on this Site is for your personal use only within the organization or entity to which you are attached as applicable, and it is not intended for commercial exploitation unless expressly agreed in writing by IATA through a duly authorized representative. IATA authorizes you to download or reproduce selected materials at this Site only for your personal, non-commercial use, in the ordinary course of business provided that you retain all copyright and other proprietary notices contained in the original materials on any copies of the materials and that the title or database brand name and IATA name is stated as the source.

You may not otherwise modify, disassemble, create derivative works, distribute, reproduce, publicly display, perform, transmit, re-transmit, sell, rent, sublicense, or otherwise use any materials or content on this Site for commercial or non-commercial exploitation by yourself or the organization or entity to which you are attached or permit third parties to so do. Without limitation, unlimited or wholesale reproduction, copying of the content for commercial or non-commercial purposes and unwarranted modification of data and information within the content is not permitted, and any use of these materials on any other website or networked computer environment for any purpose without IATA’s prior written consent is prohibited.
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4. Intellectual Property Rights

...You must not modify, decompile, or reverse engineer any software IATA discloses to you via this Site, and you must not remove, overprint, or deface any notice of copyright, trademark, logo, legend, or other notice of ownership from any originals or copies of software or information from the website. "IATA Trademarks" means all names, marks, brands, URL names or addresses, logos, designs, trade dress and other designations IATA uses in connection with Products or Services. You are not permitted to incorporate any IATA Trademarks into any other trademarks, service marks, company names, Internet addresses, domain names, or any other similar designations. Any unauthorized use of any materials contained on this website may violate copyright laws, trademark laws, the laws of privacy and publicity, and communications regulations and statutes.

http://www.itn.net/cgi/get
Terms of Use:

http://www.kenya-airways.com/kqbook.aspx
Terms of Use:

http://www.myairlines.ru
Terms of Use:

http://www.qantas.com.au/regions/do/dyn/checkmytrip
Terms of Use:

http://www.seatexpert.com/multiple_results.php
Terms of Use:

http://www.seatguru.com/ajax/findseatmap.php
Terms of Use:

http://www.seatmaestro.com/airlines-...eckmytrip.html
http://www.seatmaestro.com/themes/de...te_airline.php
Terms of Use:

http://www.seatplans.com/ajax/Airline
http://www.seatplans.com/ajax/airports-and-city
http://www.seatplans.com/find-and-compare/
Terms of Use:
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Old Dec 27, 2011, 11:33 am
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Originally Posted by HighPotter
New user....

How do you search for availability of upgrades/awards on a specific AA flight, without it dumping you into OneWorld partners?

I only want to check AA flights only.
Welcome to the KVS Tool, HighPotter!

You can use the [Filter] Tab to limit the displayed results to AA flights only.
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Old Dec 27, 2011, 11:36 am
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Originally Posted by justdmbobbo
New Diamond level user here. Love this program!

Can someone help me with a tutorial on how to display or calculate out award tickets when trying to combine DL flights with KL or AF flights? I can see where I can price out DL award flights to display miles and Also the KL/AF awards to display FB miles, etc....
How do I know what that cost will be when booking/combining DL and AF/KL flights?
Welcome to the KVS Tool, justdmbobbo!

For pricing, you would need to consult the DL SM Award Chart at http://dmn.Delta.com/skymiles/direct/charts/..
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Old Dec 27, 2011, 11:38 am
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Originally Posted by ImGoingWhere?
How long should it take to get a registration email? I've received the Order "Confirmation" (with Order ID) email and the "Contribution" confirmation/receipt email. Should I be looking for a 3rd?
I have installed the app, Clicked "Request Registration Code", completed the Registration Wizard, and I've checked my Spam folder.
Welcome to the KVS Tool, ImGoingWhere!

Indeed, there was also a 3rd e-mail, which had been sent to you at the same time.

You should have also received your Permanent Registration Credentials by now.
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Old Dec 27, 2011, 11:42 am
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Originally Posted by jfinsocal
Is there a way to search for upgrade availability (O bucket) for US Airways on award blackout dates?
If the blackout dates also apply to redemptions by *A partners on US, then only the US agents would be able to check the US Upgrade availability during those periods.
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Old Dec 27, 2011, 11:47 am
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Originally Posted by earendil31
Just installed the newest version, diamond level, and I keep getting 12029 errors when trying to use the "find flights with this fare" feature. There is no personal firewall, my anti-virus is disabled, I don't use a proxy, and I even tried lowering IEs security settings to essentially nothing. It refuses to work. The entire rest of the program works great, only that one feature gives me errors. Any thoughts?
The [ITA Query Builder] feature is currently unavailable, as the ITA Matrix1 engine has, sadly, been decommissioned earlier on this month:

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/milea...tware-com.html

We are looking into alternative solutions and an update will be posted on the KVS Tool Homepage when it becomes available.
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Old Dec 27, 2011, 11:49 am
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Originally Posted by bmvaughn
What is the proper syntax to use for a wildcard in the destination field when looking at the Fares tab for United? ** doesn't seem to work.
There is no wildcard for the origin/destination fields, as no engine supports those types of searches.
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Old Dec 28, 2011, 1:44 pm
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Originally Posted by golfmad
Hi, I tend to buy premium economy on BA and then use miles/avios to upgrade to business. The availability search on the KVS tool has options for economy, business and first. Is there any way to search for premium economy fares?
Originally Posted by golfmad
Sorry, it was a daft question. Premium economy is just a set of separate fare codes in economy. On BA they are W, E and T which appear in the economy fare searches.
It was not a daft question at all -- Premium Economy is a separate Cabin Class, but, for legacy reasons, most systems do not have dedicated support for it, so Premium Economy Fares get included with Economy listings.
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Old Dec 28, 2011, 2:44 pm
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Originally Posted by flightline
Greetings one and all from a KVS newbie.

I'm having some trouble using the Sabre/FS method to search for economy award seats on Malaysia Airlines (MH).

According to the FAQ, "T" is the economy award bucket. The post referenced in the FAQ details also shows that "I" is the business award bucket, though this is NOT in the FAQ.

When I search, I can see "I" availability, but I don't see a "T" bucket at all. Perhaps this has changed to a different letter???
I MAY have just partially answered my own question.

A Delta PM agent just told me that the economy award bucket for Malaysia Airlines is now X instead of T. Despite that, the agent wasn't able to view X inventory and said he would have to request a seat on a specific flight and wait for MH to say whether it was available. Talk about a slow process!

Of course, this doesn't answer whether we can still see MH economy award inventory using KVS. For that matter, the agent may have been mistaken about the proper fare class. Any thoughts?
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Old Dec 28, 2011, 3:35 pm
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Originally Posted by flightline
Greetings one and all from a KVS newbie.

I'm having some trouble using the Sabre/FS method to search for economy award seats on Malaysia Airlines (MH).

According to the FAQ, "T" is the economy award bucket. The post referenced in the FAQ details also shows that "I" is the business award bucket, though this is NOT in the FAQ.

When I search, I can see "I" availability, but I don't see a "T" bucket at all. Perhaps this has changed to a different letter???
Originally Posted by flightline
I MAY have just partially answered my own question.

A Delta PM agent just told me that the economy award bucket for Malaysia Airlines is now X instead of T. Despite that, the agent wasn't able to view X inventory and said he would have to request a seat on a specific flight and wait for MH to say whether it was available. Talk about a slow process!

Of course, this doesn't answer whether we can still see MH economy award inventory using KVS. For that matter, the agent may have been mistaken about the proper fare class. Any thoughts?
Indeed, there has been a recent change in MH Award Booking Classes.

We are currently in-touch with MH and, based on their preliminary response, the new Business Award/Upgrade class is now U.

The KVS Tool User Guide has been updated accordingly:

http://Help.KVSTool.com/#AwardUpgrad...es_NonAlliance
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Old Dec 28, 2011, 4:25 pm
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Originally Posted by KVS
Indeed, there has been a recent change in MH Award Booking Classes.

We are currently in-touch with MH and, based on their preliminary response, the new Business Award/Upgrade class is now U.

The KVS Tool User Guide has been updated accordingly:

http://Help.KVSTool.com/#AwardUpgrad...es_NonAlliance
Awesome!

Hopefully we'll also have access to the economy award class. Those are the ones I'm hunting for this week. Thanks again!
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Old Dec 28, 2011, 8:30 pm
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Hello forum members!
Read kvs tool FAQ page and still got some questions:
When I call airline what information do I have to provide to book a trip? Fare basis code, booking class, flight # etc.
Where do I get PNR, from airline after reservation is made?
Thank you for your help!
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Old Dec 28, 2011, 8:36 pm
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Flight awards on connections. Discrepancy using KVS?

Hi, can you explain why I'm seeing the following?

This is a link to a screenshot searching for One World reward availability from TPA->LGW->MAN on 14th May 2012. It shows availability in BA Club World (CS+) on the 2166.

But if I go to the BA website to book it, it shows no reward availability on that flight on the 14th May.

Then I simplified the search on the KVS Tool and just looked for the TPA->LGW sector. This is a screenshot of the result which shows no availability in Club World.

So, should I be able to search using KVS from TPA->LGW->MAN or must I keep to single sectors for this to work properly? Or is there another explanation?

Thanks.
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Old Dec 28, 2011, 10:58 pm
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Originally Posted by golfmad
Hi, can you explain why I'm seeing the following?

This is a link to a screenshot searching for One World reward availability from TPA->LGW->MAN on 14th May 2012. It shows availability in BA Club World (CS+) on the 2166.

But if I go to the BA website to book it, it shows no reward availability on that flight on the 14th May.

Then I simplified the search on the KVS Tool and just looked for the TPA->LGW sector. This is a screenshot of the result which shows no availability in Club World.

So, should I be able to search using KVS from TPA->LGW->MAN or must I keep to single sectors for this to work properly? Or is there another explanation?

Thanks.
According to the Users Guide (http://www.kvstool.com/FAQ.php?Source=HOME#Methods):

For Amadeus: Awards/OneWorld
Note: When searching for premium cabin awards (Premium Economy/Business/First), always check availability segment-by-segment, when using this Method. Otherwise, premium cabin availability may be indicated, when it only exists on some, but not all sub-segments. Alternatively, use the [Awards/BA-OneWorld] Method, which shows Award/Upgrade Availability on a per-segment basis.
So, I'd say either search segment by segment or use BA-OneWorld.
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Old Dec 29, 2011, 7:22 am
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Originally Posted by jasonvr
According to the Users Guide (http://www.kvstool.com/FAQ.php?Source=HOME#Methods):

For Amadeus: Awards/OneWorld


So, I'd say either search segment by segment or use BA-OneWorld.
Spot on jasonvr. Thanks.
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Old Dec 29, 2011, 3:43 pm
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For an AA flight is there a way to check the availability for a flight. I only seem that I can search per booking class. Is there a way of checking all coach classes in one search? My main goal is to see flights that I can get on to be bumped.
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