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Where does the KVS tool get its data and is KVS authorized to provide this data in the manner it is presented?

The tool is known to access a variety of web sites, many in a manner that is not authorized. Please see the next section of this Wiki for a list of sites believed to be accessed and their data access policies (where known).

Additionally, under some conditions the tool appears to access sites via a KVS-operated back end. This means that the tool is not just a 'web browser' that runs via a user's machine. No detailed public information is available about how this works or whether any of this back-end access is authorized.

Websites KVS Accesses and their relevant Terms of Use

http://book.aircanada.com/pl/AConlin...verrideServlet
http://book.aircanada.com/pl/AConlin...PreviewServlet
https://book.aircanada.com/pl/AConli...verrideServlet
https://www.aircanada.com
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http://www.aircanada.com/en/about/legal/notice.html
Use of our web site for any other purpose, including any commercial use or purpose, is expressly prohibited.
Without limiting the generality of the foregoing, you agree that, in using or accessing our website, you shall not commit or participate in any of the following acts or actions, each of which is expressly prohibited under this User Agreement:
directly or indirectly, use or access, or encourage, solicit, permit, facilitate, aid, assist or abet, including, but not limited to, the selling, licensing, distribution or provision to any person of any means that permit, the use or access, or agree to provide the use or access, of our website through any manual process or any automatic, electronic or technical device, including but not limited to automated scripts, robots, crawls, screen scrapers, web "bots", deep-links, indexes, spiders, click-spams, macro programs, or any other device, program, software, system, algorithm, methodology or technology, now known or hereinafter discovered, that performs the same or a similar function, in order to, without limitation: "data mine"; "screen scrape"; data process; access, extract, copy, distribute, aggregate or acquire information; generate impressions or clicks; input or store information; search or generate searches; or manipulate or monitor any portion or content of our website;

http://data.flight24.com/flights/
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http://www.flightradar24.com/terms-and-conditions
Website’s information and Services are provided for personal, non-commercial use only. Permission is granted to temporarily download one copy of the materials (information or software) on Flightradar24’s web site for personal, non-commercial transitory viewing only. This is the grant of a license, not a transfer of title, and under this license you may not:

Modify or copy the materials;
Use the materials for any commercial purpose, or for any public display (commercial or non-commercial);
Attempt to decompile or reverse engineer any software contained on Flightradar24's web site;
Remove any copyright or other proprietary notations from the materials; or
Transfer the materials to another person or "mirror" the materials on any other server.

This license shall automatically terminate if you violate any of these restrictions and may be terminated by Flightradar24 at any time. Upon terminating your viewing of these materials or upon the termination of this license, you must destroy any downloaded materials in your possession whether in electronic or printed format.

http://data.seatexpert.com/tpi/find.php
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http://plane.lan.com/cgi-bin/recibo_...bo_eticket.cgi
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http://www.lan.com/en_us/sitio_perso...-use/about-us/
You may use the information on our site solely for non-commercial purposes, and any use or modification of the website contents is not permitted.

http://reservations.usairways.com/Default.aspx
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http://reservations.usairways.com/en-US/aboutus/site_usage_policy.html
Content may be used for non-commercial personal use only, and you agree not to modify, copy, transmit, distribute, display, perform, reproduce, publish, license, create derivative works from, sell or otherwise transfer any information, software, products or services obtained from the Site without prior written permission from US Airways. You agree not to use any automatic device, manual process, or scraping to monitor or copy the Site or the content contained therein for any purpose without US Airways’ prior written permission. You agree not to use any device, software or routine to interfere with or attempt to interfere with the proper working of the Site or any activities conducted on the Site.

https://book.austrian.com/app/fb.fly
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http://www.austrian.com/Info/LegalRegulations/WebsiteTerms.aspx?sc_lang=en&cc=AT
2. Proprietary rights
All trademark rights, copyrights, database rights and other intellectual property rights to the contents of the Austrian-website, (as well as the organization and layout of the website), together with the underlying software code rest, either with Austrian or with its licensors. You may not, either in whole or in part, copy, modify, distribute or use or reproduce in other form contents of the Austrian-website, or the underlying software code, without the prior written consent of Austrian.

3. Permissible use
All Austrian-website online services (including the booking machine) are provided solely for the purpose of enabling you to check the availability of goods or services relating to your journey (the timetable, for example), make legitimate reservations, use our online check-in or transact other business with suppliers. You may only use the website in accordance with these terms and conditions and for the legally permitted purposes described above. In particular, you indicate your agreement to the following:
...
3.5 You may not reproduce information from the Austrian-website for commercial purposes. This also includes providing prices for Austrian flights on another website or another online server. In particular you may not copy, distribute, in other way use or reproduce discarded content from the Austrian-website with the help of 'robots', other search machine technologies or through other automatic mechanisms.

https://booking.qatarairways.com/qri...Booking.action
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https://book.tam.com.br/TAM/dyn/air/...ng/retrievePNR
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https://classic.checkmytrip.com/plne...ievePNR.action
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(D) not to use any automated system or software to extract data from the Application, Documents or Services for commercial purposes (such as screen scraping);

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https://mytripandmore.com/TermsAndConditions.aspx
Except as expressly permitted by these Terms, you may not:
...
9. use any "robot", "spider" or other automatic device, software, program, algorithm, routine, methodology, or any manual process or functionality:
...to monitor, assemble, analyse, index, copy, transmit, distribute, transfer, or link to any of the pages, data, materials, or content available on the Site,

https://pilotweb.nas.faa.gov/PilotWe...yICAOAction.do
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https://prefunds.aa.com/refunds/receipt
https://www.aa.com/reservation/findReservationSubmit.do
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https://www.aa.com/i18n/footer/siteUsage.jsp
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E. You may not copy, display, distribute, download, license, modify, publish, re-post, reproduce, reuse, sell, transmit, use to create a derivative work, or otherwise use the content of the Site for public or commercial purposes. Nothing on the Site shall be construed to confer any grant or license of any intellectual property rights, whether by estoppel, by implication, or otherwise.
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M. Monitor or copy any Content by using any manual process, or any robot, spider, or other automatic device, without first obtaining American Airlines' prior written consent.

https://raw.github.com/opentraveldat...i_airlines.csv
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https://secure.jetairways.com/PlatformID/Identify.aspx
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https://tickets.airtran.com/SeatAvailability.aspx
Terms of Use:

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http://www.southwest.com/html/about-...ons/index.html
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You may not modify, re-render, frame, mirror, truncate, add to, inject, filter or change the order of the information contained on any page of the Southwest Airlines sites, including, without limitation, by any way of reproducing Southwest Airlines or SWABiz® web pages or Company information on any other web site without our express written permission.

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You may not cause to appear any pop-up, pop-under, exit windows, expanding buttons, banners advertisement, or anything else which minimizes, covers, or otherwise inhibits the full display of the Southwest Airlines sites.

You may not use any deep-link, page-scrape, robot, crawl, index, spider, click spam, macro programs, Internet agent, or other automatic device, program, algorithm or methodology which does the same things, to use, access, copy, acquire information, generate impressions or clicks, input information, store information, search, generate searches, or monitor any portion of the Southwest Airlines sites or Company information.
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When you use the Southwest Airlines sites or Company information for an authorized purpose, you must include all proprietary notices without changing, hiding or deleting them.

You may not engage in any conduct that is, or that Southwest Airlines deems to be, in violation of this Use Agreement.

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https://www.checkmytrip.com/cmt/apf/...&SITE=NCMTNCMT
3. Licence restrictions

3.1 Except as expressly set out in this EULA or as permitted by any local law, you agree:
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(D) not to use any automated system or software to extract data from the Application, Documents or Services for commercial purposes (such as screen scraping);

https://www.delta.com/mytrips/findPnr.action
http://www.delta.com/ism/SeatMapDisplay.action
http://www.delta.com/shared/components/blank.jsp
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https://www.finnair.com
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https://www.flysas.com
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https://www.iberia.com/web/retrievePNR.do
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https://www.lot.com
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https://www.lufthansa.com
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http://www.lufthansa.com/online/port...d=2016866&l=en

2. Proprietary rights
...You may not, either in whole or in part, copy, modify, distribute or use or reproduce in other form contents of the Lufthansa-website, or the underlying software code, without the prior written consent of Deutsche Lufthansa AG.

https://www.routehappy.com/
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https://www.swiss.com
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https://www.tripforyou.net/t4u/PTopAction.do
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https://www.tripple.jp
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https://www.united.com/web/en-US/app...n/default.aspx
Terms of Use:

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https://www.united.com/web/en-US/content/legal.aspx This website is for the User's personal, noncommercial use only. User agrees not to modify, copy, alter, distribute, transmit, display, perform, reproduce, publish, license, create derivative works from, transfer, or sell any information, software, products or services obtained from this website without United’s prior written permission. User agrees not to use any robot, spider, other automatic device, or manual process to monitor or copy this website or the content contained therein or for any other unauthorized purpose without United’s prior written permission. ... United reserves the right to investigate any illegal and/or unauthorized use of this website, including, but not limited to, unauthorized framing of this website or unauthorized use of any robot, spider or other automated device, and to take appropriate legal action, including, without limitation, civil, criminal and injunctive redress.

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http://www.gcmap.com/faq/using
Q: May I use the Great Circle Mapper's maps on my web page?
A: You may use maps generated by the Great Circle Mapper on non-commercial web pages (q.v. commericial use below) so long as you do not profit from them and you include the following credit on pages which include maps:
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Q: May I use the Great Circle Mapper's maps for commercial sites or publications?
A: Please write to Karl L. Swartz regarding terms for commercial use of the maps.

http://www.iata.org/about/members/Pa...line-list.aspx
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http://www.iata.org/Pages/terms.aspx
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http://www.itn.net/cgi/get
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http://www.kenya-airways.com/kqbook.aspx
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http://www.myairlines.ru
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http://www.qantas.com.au/regions/do/dyn/checkmytrip
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http://www.seatexpert.com/multiple_results.php
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http://www.seatguru.com/ajax/findseatmap.php
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http://www.seatmaestro.com/airlines-...eckmytrip.html
http://www.seatmaestro.com/themes/de...te_airline.php
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http://www.seatplans.com/ajax/Airline
http://www.seatplans.com/ajax/airports-and-city
http://www.seatplans.com/find-and-compare/
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Jan 29, 2011, 12:38 pm

#3871

KVS

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Quote:

Originally Posted by crazycrab955

Updated to 6.0.7, and now I get the following error every time I close the tool:

"Unable to write to file. C:\Program Files (x86)\KVS Availability Tool\RegV2.dat [76] Path not found"

Went to the KVS folder in Program Files and indeed, there is no RegV2.dat file there. I have to re-enter my registration number each time I open the Tool in order to use it.

Have been a long-time user and this is the first time I'm seeing this. Tried uninstalling and reinstalling and still seeing this error. Any ideas?

Please see the newly-updated Q16 at http://FAQ.KVSTool.com/

Jan 29, 2011, 3:53 pm

#3872

zman

Join Date: Apr 2004

Posts: 5,630

Quote:

Originally Posted by KVS

Please download V6.0.7.

This issue has now been resolved. Please restart the Tool for the changes to take effect.

The [Fares/TVN] Method is intended to display all currently-published fares. [Fares/PSH] & [Fares/DotRes] contain the date validation functionality, if desired.

When using Sabre Fares/TVN it will only display a portion of all the fares (aprox 30-40). Is there a way to get more/all?
Max is checked
Do not know if this is a new issue or a Sabre restriction

Last edited by zman; Jan 29, 2011 at 7:35 pm

Jan 30, 2011, 1:27 am

#3873

vrichard

Join Date: Jun 2005

Location: Hawaii

Programs: AA-Plat DL-Plat (did status match on DL before losing EXP on AA)

Posts: 288

Quote:

Originally Posted by KVS

Please download V6.0.7.

The [Fares/TVN] Method is intended to display all currently-published fares. [Fares/PSH] & [Fares/DotRes] contain the date validation functionality, if desired.

I understand - but the other methods work only for a single specific date. The data source for the Fares/TVN method allows user to specify start and end month range and get all published fares for travel in those months. It would be nice if KVS allowed the range to be input by user. (KVS does display the months being returned by data source just to left of the 'GO' button, just doesn't allow user to specify them.)

Also - with 6.0.7 getting error on Fares/TVN query 'Unable to obtain the Forex rate'
After clicking ok on that error box, the fares are displayed in Canadian $.

Jan 30, 2011, 6:35 pm

#3874

C010T3

Join Date: May 2009

Location: Rio de Janeiro

Posts: 557

Hello!

I just found what seems to be a new error:

[KVS Availability Tool 6.0.7/Diamond - Sabre: Availability/GTC/NL-BCDF]

Code:

GIG  Rio De Janeiro Intl RJ BR [SBGL]
JFK  New York John F Kennedy Intl NY US [KJFK]
FRI  15 Apr 2011

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  -----------------------------------------------------------
JJ         3831    GIG   14:42     VCP   15:35     320  0   Y9 B9 E9 U9 S9 M9 H9 K9 G9 Q9 V9 L9 W9 N9
AA         256     GIG   20:50     JFK   06:15 +1  763  0   J7 R0 D7 I0 Y7 B7 H2 K0 M0 N0 L0 W0 V0 G0 Q0 S0 O0
AA         950     GRU   21:15     JFK   06:10 +1  777  0   F7 A0 J7 R7 D0 I0 Y7 B0 H0 K0 M0 N0 L0 W0 G0 Q0 V0 S0 O0
JJ         8082    GIG   06:05     JFK   17:45     330  1   Y2 B2 E2 U2 S2 M0 H0 K0 G0 Q0 V0 L0 W0 N0 F3 P1 A0 C4 D0 J0

Jan 31, 2011, 10:33 am

#3875

vrichard

Join Date: Jun 2005

Location: Hawaii

Programs: AA-Plat DL-Plat (did status match on DL before losing EXP on AA)

Posts: 288

New Problem

Release 6.0.7.R1
With Sabre: Fares/TVN - all options I've tried produces error:

"Unable to Retrieve Fares:
Sorry, reservations can only be made up to 330 days in advance...."

Jan 31, 2011, 11:03 am

#3876

zman

Join Date: Apr 2004

Posts: 5,630

Quote:

Originally Posted by vrichard

Release 6.0.7.R1
With Sabre: Fares/TVN - all options I've tried produces error:

"Unable to Retrieve Fares:
Sorry, reservations can only be made up to 330 days in advance...."

as of 1300 Monday - My Sabre Fares TVN appears to be working

Jan 31, 2011, 5:25 pm

#3877

vrichard

Join Date: Jun 2005

Location: Hawaii

Programs: AA-Plat DL-Plat (did status match on DL before losing EXP on AA)

Posts: 288

Quote:

Originally Posted by zman

as of 1300 Monday - My Sabre Fares TVN appears to be working

Oh... need to clarify.
It's NOT working with the POS: set to CA-SP1 (which I don't think is the default, but I tried it to see if there was any difference when I last had problem). It IS working with POS: set to CA-SP1

Jan 31, 2011, 6:56 pm

#3878

zman

Join Date: Apr 2004

Posts: 5,630

Quote:

Originally Posted by vrichard

You are right. CA-SP1 does not work

Jan 31, 2011, 7:19 pm

#3879

KVS

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Quote:

Originally Posted by vrichard

We are looking into implementing this in one the future releases...

Quote:

Originally Posted by vrichard

Also - with 6.0.7 getting error on Fares/TVN query 'Unable to obtain the Forex rate'
After clicking ok on that error box, the fares are displayed in Canadian $.

Must have been a transient issue with the Forex server and/or your connection/ISP -- is everything OK now?

Jan 31, 2011, 7:23 pm

#3880

KVS

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Quote:

Originally Posted by C010T3

Hello!

I just found what seems to be a new error:

[KVS Availability Tool 6.0.7/Diamond - Sabre: Availability/GTC/NL-BCDF]

Code:

GIG  Rio De Janeiro Intl RJ BR [SBGL]
JFK  New York John F Kennedy Intl NY US [KJFK]
FRI  15 Apr 2011

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  -----------------------------------------------------------
JJ         3831    GIG   14:42     VCP   15:35     320  0   Y9 B9 E9 U9 S9 M9 H9 K9 G9 Q9 V9 L9 W9 N9
AA         256     GIG   20:50     JFK   06:15 +1  763  0   J7 R0 D7 I0 Y7 B7 H2 K0 M0 N0 L0 W0 V0 G0 Q0 S0 O0
AA         950     GRU   21:15     JFK   06:10 +1  777  0   F7 A0 J7 R7 D0 I0 Y7 B0 H0 K0 M0 N0 L0 W0 G0 Q0 V0 S0 O0
JJ         8082    GIG   06:05     JFK   17:45     330  1   Y2 B2 E2 U2 S2 M0 H0 K0 G0 Q0 V0 L0 W0 N0 F3 P1 A0 C4 D0 J0

This has now been confirmed to be an issue with the GTC engine itself -- it appears that it got 'confused' by the inter-airport connection in SAO. The correct display should have read:

Code:

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  -----------------------------------------------------------
JJ         3831    GIG   14:42     VCP   15:35     320  0   Y9 B9 E9 U9 S9 M9 H9 K9 G9 Q9 V9 L9 W9 N9
 -> AA     950     GRU   21:15     JFK   06:10 +1  777  0   F7 A0 J7 R7 D0 I0 Y7 B0 H0 K0 M0 N0 L0 W0 G0 Q0 V0 S0 O0

Jan 31, 2011, 7:32 pm

#3881

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Quote:

Originally Posted by zman

When using Sabre Fares/TVN it will only display a portion of all the fares (aprox 30-40). Is there a way to get more/all?
Max is checked
Do not know if this is a new issue or a Sabre restriction

It's a limitation of the TVN engine.

If the Max option is activated and you still don't see the fare(s) you are interested in, then you would need to switch to one of the other Fare Methods, such as DotRes or PSH.

Jan 31, 2011, 7:36 pm

#3882

KVS

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Quote:

Originally Posted by vrichard

Release 6.0.7.R1
With Sabre: Fares/TVN - all options I've tried produces error:

"Unable to Retrieve Fares:
Sorry, reservations can only be made up to 330 days in advance...."

Quote:

Originally Posted by zman

as of 1300 Monday - My Sabre Fares TVN appears to be working

Quote:

Originally Posted by vrichard

Quote:

Originally Posted by zman

You are right. CA-SP1 does not work

Please use the default POS option (CA-STD).

CA-SP1 should only be used if the default POS option does not work: http://Help.KVSTool.com/#Method_Sabre_Fares_TVN

Feb 1, 2011, 4:35 pm

#3883

C010T3

Join Date: May 2009

Location: Rio de Janeiro

Posts: 557

Quote:

Originally Posted by KVS

This has now been confirmed to be an issue with the GTC engine itself -- it appears that it got 'confused' by the inter-airport connection in SAO. The correct display should have read:

Code:

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  -----------------------------------------------------------
JJ         3831    GIG   14:42     VCP   15:35     320  0   Y9 B9 E9 U9 S9 M9 H9 K9 G9 Q9 V9 L9 W9 N9
 -> AA     950     GRU   21:15     JFK   06:10 +1  777  0   F7 A0 J7 R7 D0 I0 Y7 B0 H0 K0 M0 N0 L0 W0 G0 Q0 V0 S0 O0

Oh, OK, thank you.

Feb 3, 2011, 5:24 am

#3884

gleff

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Interesting.

I haven't compared to the Asiamiles website. But checking CX awards on KVS I'm getting F availability on aircraft without an F cabin.

[KVS Availability Tool 6.0.7/Diamond - Amadeus: Awards/CX]

Code:

NRT  Tokyo Narita JP [RJAA]
HKG  Hong Kong Intl HK [VHHH]
SAT  12 Feb 2011 | 1 Seat

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  ------------
CX         451     NRT   15:30     HKG   21:30     330  1   FS+ CS+ YS-
CX         509     NRT   09:15     HKG   13:25     773  0   FS+ CS+ YS-
CX         501     NRT   10:45     HKG   15:05     330  0   FS+ CS+ YS-
CX         521     NRT   16:20     HKG   20:35     330  0   FS/ CS- YS-
CX         505     NRT   18:20     HKG   22:35     330  0   FS/ CS- YS-

Compare to inventory for sale, no F:

[KVS Availability Tool 6.0.7/Diamond - Sabre: Availability/FS/US-VIA]

Code:

NRT  Tokyo Narita JP [RJAA]
HKG  Hong Kong Intl HK [VHHH]
SAT  12 Feb 2011

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  --------------------------------------------
CX         509     NRT   09:15     HKG   13:25     773      J9 C9 D8 I5 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L4 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0
CX         501     NRT   10:45     HKG   15:05     330      J9 C9 D8 I6 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0
CX         451     NRT   15:30     HKG   21:30     330      J9 C9 D9 I8 Y9 B9 H9 K4 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0
CX         521     NRT   16:20     HKG   20:35     333      J4 C3 D3 I0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0
CX         505     NRT   18:20     HKG   22:35     330      J7 C6 D5 I3 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0
CX/JL      6323    NRT   18:25     HKG   22:35     767      J4 C4 D0 I0 Y0 B0 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0
CX/JL      6336    NRT   10:40     CTS   12:20     73H      Y0 B0 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0
 -> CX     581     CTS   16:00     HKG   20:40     744      J0 C0 D0 I0 Y9 B9 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0
CX         451     NRT   15:30     TPE   18:35     330      J9 C9 D9 I7 Y9 B9 H9 K3 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0
 -> CX     531     TPE   20:20     HKG   22:10     330      J9 C9 D9 I7 Y9 B9 H9 K3 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0
CX         451     NRT   15:30     TPE   18:35     330      J9 C9 D9 I9 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0
 -> CX     463     TPE   06:15     HKG   08:00     773      J9 C9 D9 I9 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0

If I weren't so lazy I would check the Asiamiles site to see whether it's reporting F inventory on aircraft with no F, or if it's an error in the way KVS is reading the data.

Feb 3, 2011, 11:03 am

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gleff

I haven't compared to the Asiamiles website. But checking CX awards on KVS I'm getting F availability on aircraft without an F cabin.

Please download the latest version:

[KVS Availability Tool 6.0.7.R2/Diamond - Amadeus: Awards/CX]

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NRT  Tokyo Narita JP [RJAA]
HKG  Hong Kong Intl HK [VHHH]
SAT  12 Feb 2011 | 1 Seat

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  ------------
CX         451     NRT   15:30     HKG   21:30     330  1   FS/ CS+ YS@
CX         509     NRT   09:15     HKG   13:25     773  0   FS/ CS+ YS@
CX         501     NRT   10:45     HKG   15:05     330  0   FS/ CS+ YS@
CX         521     NRT   16:20     HKG   20:35     330  0   FS/ CS@ YS@
CX         505     NRT   18:20     HKG   22:35     330  0   FS/ CS@ YS@