KVS Availability Tool

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Sep 6, 2008 | 7:24 am
  #2116  
Quote: I'm trying to get a skyteam award from Delta on Korean air and I'm tired of calling all the time.
If I contribute to KVS for the platinum membership, will I be able to see exactly what Delta would see?
IIRC KE awards aren't displahyed on the NW Japan site and thus don't come up using the KVS tool.
Sep 6, 2008 | 8:24 am
  #2117  
Is there any other tool anybody knows of to find KE availibility or at least get an idea of it?
Sep 7, 2008 | 5:05 am
  #2118  
1. I would like to determine MPM using the KVS tool - can one determine the Aeroplan MPM between 2 different cities? Are the MPM values between any given city pair the same or different for different frequent flyer programs?

2. When did Sabre:dotres with Canada as POS become nonfunctional for the KVS tool?
Sep 7, 2008 | 5:11 am
  #2119  
It is quite inconvenient to try to find award availability to Switzerland, without having access to such information for LX, using the KVS tool. Do you think a future version of the KVS tool (or the ANA tool) will be able to access such data?
Sep 7, 2008 | 5:48 am
  #2120  
Here's how to check LX award availability online:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=858553
Sep 7, 2008 | 7:09 am
  #2121  
Quote: IIRC KE awards aren't displayed on the NW Japan site and thus don't come up using the KVS tool.
Will KE seat availability come up? (to purchase) and would this give you an idea?
(in the systems other that apollo)
Sep 7, 2008 | 8:41 am
  #2122  
Quote: 1. I would like to determine MPM using the KVS tool - can one determine the Aeroplan MPM between 2 different cities? Are the MPM values between any given city pair the same or different for different frequent flyer programs?
IATA publishes the MPM values ... you can buy the 2008 mileage manual from IATA for a mere $3264!
Sep 7, 2008 | 9:47 am
  #2123  
Quote: 2. When did Sabre:dotres with Canada as POS become nonfunctional for the KVS tool?
You have already asked the same question at http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showp...postcount=2013
Sep 7, 2008 | 9:49 am
  #2124  
Quote: Will KE seat availability come up? (to purchase) and would this give you an idea?
(in the systems other that apollo)
Yes.
Sep 7, 2008 | 9:52 am
  #2125  
Quote: It is quite inconvenient to try to find award availability to Switzerland, without having access to such information for LX, using the KVS tool. Do you think a future version of the KVS tool (or the ANA tool) will be able to access such data?
There are technical incompatibility issues with LX's systems that prevent ANA from accessing their award availability. If and when those issues are resolved, LX award availability should become accessible via the KVS Tool.
Sep 9, 2008 | 6:52 pm
  #2126  
Quote: You have already asked the same question at http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showp...postcount=2013
Actually, this is a corollary to that question. That question asked why sabre:dotres with POS identified as Canada, is not working. This question asks when did the specific function of the KVS tool stop working.

PS-Or you can say that I intentionally (with a different wording) ask the same question, to make sure that people who surf the Aeroplan forum are aware of this new change. I did not, by reviewing this thread, see that this had been mentioned before.
Sep 9, 2008 | 6:54 pm
  #2127  
Quote: IATA publishes the MPM values ... you can buy the 2008 mileage manual from IATA for a mere $3264!
So I can presume that relatively economical web based tools such as KVS or expert flyer do not offer that function?
Sep 9, 2008 | 9:28 pm
  #2128  
Quote: So I can presume that relatively economical web based tools such as KVS or expert flyer do not offer that function?
ExpertFlyer does indeed show the MPM for mileage based fares using our Routing Rules function, here is an example of the result:

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Routing Details
Search: Departing YYZ on 10/09/08 for NRT
Fare basis code C7XJEX
Flying AC

MPM FARE - ROUTE NOT APPLICABLE
MAXIMUM PERMITTED MILEAGE IS 7708
---------

Here is a sample result for a route based fare:

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Routing Details
Search: Departing YYZ on 10/09/08 for NRT
Fare basis code N0M0WCJ
Flying AC

YTO-TYO THU-09OCT08 AC
TAXES/FEES NOT INCLUDED
ADULT FARES
CX FARE FARE C AP MIN/ SEASONS...... MR GI DT
USD BASIS MAX
17 AC 1163.00R N0M0WCJ N | /12M R PA D

SPECIFIED ROUTE: 0301
YTO-YXE/YWG/YQR-YYC/YEA/YYJ-YVR-TYO
YTO-YXE/YWG/YQR-YYC/YEA/YYJ-YVR-OSA(AC/NH/JL)TYO
YTO-YWG-YYC/YEA/YYJ-YVR-TYO
YTO-YWG-YYC/YEA/YYJ-YVR-OSA(AC/NH/JL)TYO
--------

This is in addition to the Fare Rules.

Hope this helps,
EFV
Sep 9, 2008 | 9:54 pm
  #2129  
Quote: ExpertFlyer does indeed show the MPM for mileage based fares using our Routing Rules function, here is an example of the result:

---------
Routing Details
Search: Departing YYZ on 10/09/08 for NRT
Fare basis code C7XJEX
Flying AC

MPM FARE - ROUTE NOT APPLICABLE
MAXIMUM PERMITTED MILEAGE IS 7708
---------

Here is a sample result for a route based fare:

---------
Routing Details
Search: Departing YYZ on 10/09/08 for NRT
Fare basis code N0M0WCJ
Flying AC

YTO-TYO THU-09OCT08 AC
TAXES/FEES NOT INCLUDED
ADULT FARES
CX FARE FARE C AP MIN/ SEASONS...... MR GI DT
USD BASIS MAX
17 AC 1163.00R N0M0WCJ N | /12M R PA D

SPECIFIED ROUTE: 0301
YTO-YXE/YWG/YQR-YYC/YEA/YYJ-YVR-TYO
YTO-YXE/YWG/YQR-YYC/YEA/YYJ-YVR-OSA(AC/NH/JL)TYO
YTO-YWG-YYC/YEA/YYJ-YVR-TYO
YTO-YWG-YYC/YEA/YYJ-YVR-OSA(AC/NH/JL)TYO
--------

This is in addition to the Fare Rules.

Hope this helps,
EFV
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Sep 10, 2008 | 12:23 pm
  #2130  
Kheria / Agra (AGR) isn't recognised as an airport by the tool.
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