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Where does the KVS tool get its data and is KVS authorized to provide this data in the manner it is presented?

The tool is known to access a variety of web sites, many in a manner that is not authorized. Please see the next section of this Wiki for a list of sites believed to be accessed and their data access policies (where known).

Additionally, under some conditions the tool appears to access sites via a KVS-operated back end. This means that the tool is not just a 'web browser' that runs via a user's machine. No detailed public information is available about how this works or whether any of this back-end access is authorized.

Websites KVS Accesses and their relevant Terms of Use

http://book.aircanada.com/pl/AConlin...verrideServlet
http://book.aircanada.com/pl/AConlin...PreviewServlet
https://book.aircanada.com/pl/AConli...verrideServlet
https://www.aircanada.com
Terms of Use:
http://www.aircanada.com/en/about/legal/notice.html
Use of our web site for any other purpose, including any commercial use or purpose, is expressly prohibited.
Without limiting the generality of the foregoing, you agree that, in using or accessing our website, you shall not commit or participate in any of the following acts or actions, each of which is expressly prohibited under this User Agreement:
directly or indirectly, use or access, or encourage, solicit, permit, facilitate, aid, assist or abet, including, but not limited to, the selling, licensing, distribution or provision to any person of any means that permit, the use or access, or agree to provide the use or access, of our website through any manual process or any automatic, electronic or technical device, including but not limited to automated scripts, robots, crawls, screen scrapers, web "bots", deep-links, indexes, spiders, click-spams, macro programs, or any other device, program, software, system, algorithm, methodology or technology, now known or hereinafter discovered, that performs the same or a similar function, in order to, without limitation: "data mine"; "screen scrape"; data process; access, extract, copy, distribute, aggregate or acquire information; generate impressions or clicks; input or store information; search or generate searches; or manipulate or monitor any portion or content of our website;

http://data.flight24.com/flights/
Terms of Use:
http://www.flightradar24.com/terms-and-conditions
Website’s information and Services are provided for personal, non-commercial use only. Permission is granted to temporarily download one copy of the materials (information or software) on Flightradar24’s web site for personal, non-commercial transitory viewing only. This is the grant of a license, not a transfer of title, and under this license you may not:

Modify or copy the materials;
Use the materials for any commercial purpose, or for any public display (commercial or non-commercial);
Attempt to decompile or reverse engineer any software contained on Flightradar24's web site;
Remove any copyright or other proprietary notations from the materials; or
Transfer the materials to another person or "mirror" the materials on any other server.

This license shall automatically terminate if you violate any of these restrictions and may be terminated by Flightradar24 at any time. Upon terminating your viewing of these materials or upon the termination of this license, you must destroy any downloaded materials in your possession whether in electronic or printed format.

http://data.seatexpert.com/tpi/find.php
Terms of Use:

http://plane.lan.com/cgi-bin/recibo_...bo_eticket.cgi
Terms of Use:
http://www.lan.com/en_us/sitio_perso...-use/about-us/
You may use the information on our site solely for non-commercial purposes, and any use or modification of the website contents is not permitted.

http://reservations.usairways.com/Default.aspx
Terms of Use:
http://reservations.usairways.com/en-US/aboutus/site_usage_policy.html
Content may be used for non-commercial personal use only, and you agree not to modify, copy, transmit, distribute, display, perform, reproduce, publish, license, create derivative works from, sell or otherwise transfer any information, software, products or services obtained from the Site without prior written permission from US Airways. You agree not to use any automatic device, manual process, or scraping to monitor or copy the Site or the content contained therein for any purpose without US Airways’ prior written permission. You agree not to use any device, software or routine to interfere with or attempt to interfere with the proper working of the Site or any activities conducted on the Site.

https://book.austrian.com/app/fb.fly
Terms of Use:
http://www.austrian.com/Info/LegalRegulations/WebsiteTerms.aspx?sc_lang=en&cc=AT
2. Proprietary rights
All trademark rights, copyrights, database rights and other intellectual property rights to the contents of the Austrian-website, (as well as the organization and layout of the website), together with the underlying software code rest, either with Austrian or with its licensors. You may not, either in whole or in part, copy, modify, distribute or use or reproduce in other form contents of the Austrian-website, or the underlying software code, without the prior written consent of Austrian.

3. Permissible use
All Austrian-website online services (including the booking machine) are provided solely for the purpose of enabling you to check the availability of goods or services relating to your journey (the timetable, for example), make legitimate reservations, use our online check-in or transact other business with suppliers. You may only use the website in accordance with these terms and conditions and for the legally permitted purposes described above. In particular, you indicate your agreement to the following:
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3.5 You may not reproduce information from the Austrian-website for commercial purposes. This also includes providing prices for Austrian flights on another website or another online server. In particular you may not copy, distribute, in other way use or reproduce discarded content from the Austrian-website with the help of 'robots', other search machine technologies or through other automatic mechanisms.

https://booking.qatarairways.com/qri...Booking.action
Terms of Use:

https://book.tam.com.br/TAM/dyn/air/...ng/retrievePNR
Terms of Use:

https://classic.checkmytrip.com/plne...ievePNR.action
Terms of Use:
(D) not to use any automated system or software to extract data from the Application, Documents or Services for commercial purposes (such as screen scraping);

https://en.aegeanair.com
Terms of Use:

https://eservice.evaair.com
Terms of Use:

https://flymas.mobi/itravel/viewBooking.xhtml
Terms of Use:

https://fly.rj.com/MyBookings/Home/EN/Default.aspx
Terms of Use:

http://skyvector.com/airport/
Terms of Use:

https://m.aeroflot.ru/b/info/pnr/load
Terms of Use:

https://mm.alitalia.com/GB_EN/booking/apvsearch.aspx
Terms of Use:

https://mobile1.emirates.com/myb/review.xhtml
Terms of Use:

https://myb.s7.ru/getMyBooking.action
Terms of Use:

https://mytripandmore.com/Itinerary.aspx
Terms of Use:
https://mytripandmore.com/TermsAndConditions.aspx
Except as expressly permitted by these Terms, you may not:
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9. use any "robot", "spider" or other automatic device, software, program, algorithm, routine, methodology, or any manual process or functionality:
...to monitor, assemble, analyse, index, copy, transmit, distribute, transfer, or link to any of the pages, data, materials, or content available on the Site,

https://pilotweb.nas.faa.gov/PilotWe...yICAOAction.do
Terms of Use:

https://prefunds.aa.com/refunds/receipt
https://www.aa.com/reservation/findReservationSubmit.do
Terms of Use:
https://www.aa.com/i18n/footer/siteUsage.jsp
Intellectual property notifications
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D. American Airlines owns or uses by permission all software contained on the Site, including without limitation all HTML code and Active X controls. Copyright and other laws and international treaty provisions protect this software. The law expressly prohibits any modification, redistribution, or reproduction of the software, and such actions could result in severe civil and criminal penalties. American Airlines will seek and support prosecuting violators to the maximum extent possible.
E. You may not copy, display, distribute, download, license, modify, publish, re-post, reproduce, reuse, sell, transmit, use to create a derivative work, or otherwise use the content of the Site for public or commercial purposes. Nothing on the Site shall be construed to confer any grant or license of any intellectual property rights, whether by estoppel, by implication, or otherwise.
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Limitations on your use:
You agree that you will not Misuse the Site. "Misuse" includes, but is not limited to, using the Site to do any of the following:
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L. Copy or create derivative works from, display, distribute, license, perform, publish, recreate, reproduce, sell, transfer, or transmit any information, products, services, or software obtained by, from, or through the Site.
M. Monitor or copy any Content by using any manual process, or any robot, spider, or other automatic device, without first obtaining American Airlines' prior written consent.

https://raw.github.com/opentraveldat...i_airlines.csv
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https://secure.jetairways.com/PlatformID/Identify.aspx
Terms of Use:

https://tickets.airtran.com/SeatAvailability.aspx
Terms of Use:
http://www.southwest.com/html/about-...ons/index.html
Prohibited Activities

You may not copy, display, distribute, download, license, modify, publish, re-post, reproduce, reuse, sell, transmit, use to create a derivative work, or otherwise use the content of this site for public or commercial purposes without our express written permission. Nothing on this site shall be construed to confer any grant or license of any intellectual property rights, whether by estoppel, by implication, or otherwise.

You may not modify, re-render, frame, mirror, truncate, add to, inject, filter or change the order of the information contained on any page of the Southwest Airlines sites, including, without limitation, by any way of reproducing Southwest Airlines or SWABiz® web pages or Company information on any other web site without our express written permission.

You may not copy, derive, edit, translate, decompile, reverse engineer, modify, use, or reproduce any code or source relating to our sites, including without limitation, any service or product Southwest offers.

You may not cause to appear any pop-up, pop-under, exit windows, expanding buttons, banners advertisement, or anything else which minimizes, covers, or otherwise inhibits the full display of the Southwest Airlines sites.

You may not use any deep-link, page-scrape, robot, crawl, index, spider, click spam, macro programs, Internet agent, or other automatic device, program, algorithm or methodology which does the same things, to use, access, copy, acquire information, generate impressions or clicks, input information, store information, search, generate searches, or monitor any portion of the Southwest Airlines sites or Company information.
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You may not disguise the origin of information transmitted to, from, or through the Southwest Airlines sites. You may not circumvent any measures implemented by Southwest Airlines aimed at preventing violations of the Use Agreement. You may not violate the restrictions in any robot exclusion header.

When you use the Southwest Airlines sites or Company information for an authorized purpose, you must include all proprietary notices without changing, hiding or deleting them.

You may not engage in any conduct that is, or that Southwest Airlines deems to be, in violation of this Use Agreement.

https://wftc3.e-travel.com
Terms of Use:

https://wtrweb.worldtracer.aero/WorldTracerWeb/pax.do
Terms of Use:

https://www121.jal.co.jp/JmbWeb/JR/S...MileCalc_en.do
Terms of Use:

https://www4.thy.com/mybookings/ETDisplay.tk
https://www4.thy.com/mybookings/getPnr.tk
Terms of Use:

https://www.airberlin.com/en-DE/cockpit
Terms of Use:

https://www.airfrance.fr/cgi-bin/AF/...chPnrAction.do
Terms of Use:

https://www.alaskaair.com/booking/reservationlookup
Terms of Use:

https://www.bookonline.saudiairlines...verride.action
https://www.bookonline.saudiairlines...verride.action
Terms of Use:

https://www.britishairways.com/trave...g/public/en_gb
Terms of Use:

https://www.checkmytrip.com/CMTSERVLET
Terms of Use:
https://www.checkmytrip.com/cmt/apf/...&SITE=NCMTNCMT
3. Licence restrictions

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(D) not to use any automated system or software to extract data from the Application, Documents or Services for commercial purposes (such as screen scraping);

https://www.delta.com/mytrips/findPnr.action
http://www.delta.com/ism/SeatMapDisplay.action
http://www.delta.com/shared/components/blank.jsp
Terms of Use:

https://www.finnair.com
Terms of Use:

https://www.flysas.com
Terms of Use:

https://www.iberia.com/web/retrievePNR.do
Terms of Use:

https://www.lot.com
Terms of Use:

https://www.lufthansa.com
Terms of Use:
http://www.lufthansa.com/online/port...d=2016866&l=en

2. Proprietary rights
...You may not, either in whole or in part, copy, modify, distribute or use or reproduce in other form contents of the Lufthansa-website, or the underlying software code, without the prior written consent of Deutsche Lufthansa AG.
https://www.routehappy.com/
Terms of Use:

https://www.swiss.com
Terms of Use:

https://www.tripforyou.net/t4u/PTopAction.do
Terms of Use:

https://www.tripple.jp
Terms of Use:

https://www.united.com/web/en-US/app...n/default.aspx
Terms of Use:
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https://www.viewtrip.com/GetItin.aspx
Terms of Use:

https://www.virginamerica.com/book/ow/a1/
Terms of Use:

https://www.virgin-atlantic.com/en/g...ndBooking.next
Terms of Use:

https://www.virtuallythere.com/new/reservations.html
Terms of Use:

http://weather.noaa.gov/weather/current/
Terms of Use:

http://worldaerodata.com/wad.cgi
Terms of Use:

http://www.airframes.org/fleet/
Terms of Use:

http://www.cathaypacific.com/cx/en_H...oking-now.html
Terms of Use:

http://www.flightradar24.com/
Terms of Use:

http://www.FlightStats.com/go/Flight...ingByFlight.do
http://www.FlightStats.com/go/Flight...tusByFlight.do
Terms of Use:

http://www.flightview.com/TravelTool...eryResults.asp
http://www.flightview.com/TravelTools/viewairport.asp
Terms of Use:

http://www.gcmap.com/airport/
http://www.gcmap.com/mapui
Terms of Use:
http://www.gcmap.com/faq/using
Q: May I use the Great Circle Mapper's maps on my web page?
A: You may use maps generated by the Great Circle Mapper on non-commercial web pages (q.v. commericial use below) so long as you do not profit from them and you include the following credit on pages which include maps:
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A: Please write to Karl L. Swartz regarding terms for commercial use of the maps.

http://www.iata.org/about/members/Pa...line-list.aspx
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http://www.iata.org/Pages/terms.aspx
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http://www.itn.net/cgi/get
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http://www.kenya-airways.com/kqbook.aspx
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http://www.myairlines.ru
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http://www.qantas.com.au/regions/do/dyn/checkmytrip
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http://www.seatexpert.com/multiple_results.php
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http://www.seatguru.com/ajax/findseatmap.php
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http://www.seatmaestro.com/airlines-...eckmytrip.html
http://www.seatmaestro.com/themes/de...te_airline.php
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http://www.seatplans.com/ajax/Airline
http://www.seatplans.com/ajax/airports-and-city
http://www.seatplans.com/find-and-compare/
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Old May 16, 2008, 3:27 pm
  #1936  
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Originally Posted by delanotre
For you, but not for me... sorry.
I use KVS for prices, class availability but not for awards because it is not enough directly clear to understand. I am not a professional, only a short sigthed...
And I still don't know what it is that you believe is not "directly clear to understand" . Ironically, the award availability in KVS Tool is actually easier to understand than fares and regular availability, since you don't even need to know the booking class codes ...
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Old May 16, 2008, 4:44 pm
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Originally Posted by ttervooren
It is "D".
According to this thread: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showt...76#post4122176 I class is the Business award class and T is the Coach award class. I is a hidden class that ExpertFlyer shows and it is unlikely that they would hide a regular non-award or upgrade class.

Are you saying that D is for upgrades from coach to business or did they change the class from T to D for Coach awards?
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Old May 16, 2008, 8:02 pm
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Originally Posted by delanotre
why KVS can not be also explicit for award flights than "expert flyer"?
Originally Posted by KVS
Ironically, the award availability in KVS Tool is actually easier to understand than fares and regular availability, since you don't even need to know the booking class codes ...
Actually, I think what delanotre was trying to explain is that ExpertFlyer no longer requires you to know the award or upgrade class to search for it with the introduction of our Award & Upgrade Search tool last month. On both the request and response pages, the classes are pre-listed with full descriptions for easy use, and as always show the exact number of awards or upgrades available (as shown by this screen cap)

Also, you can show up to 3 additional regular paid-fare classes in addition to the award/upgrade classes in one search. This way you don't have to do a 2nd regular availability search to compare say a business upgrade class with the discount business fare class.

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Old May 16, 2008, 9:14 pm
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Originally Posted by ExpertFlyer Voice
Actually, I think what delanotre was trying to explain is that ExpertFlyer no longer requires you to know the award or upgrade class to search for it with the introduction of our Award & Upgrade Search tool last month.
And KVS Tool no longer required its users to know the award class code(s) to search for, since the introduction of the SkyTeam Award search method in Jan 2007 .

The award class (e.g. YS/WS/CS/FS) descriptions are the same for all airlines, for which award availability is supported (AC/UA/US/LH/OS/SK/TP/LO/JK/BD/TK/SQ/NZ/NH/OZ/TG/SA/JP/OU/KF // QF/BA/AA/AY/IB/MA/LA + EI/FJ // NW/SU/AM/AF/CO/DL/KL + AS/HA/YX), and can be found in the KVS Tool User Guide: http://www.kvstool.com/FAQ.php#Methods
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Old May 17, 2008, 5:04 am
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Originally Posted by ExpertFlyer Voice
Actually, I think what delanotre was trying to explain is that ExpertFlyer no longer requires you to know the award or upgrade class to search for it with the introduction of our Award & Upgrade Search tool last month. On both the request and response pages, the classes are pre-listed with full descriptions for easy use, and as always show the exact number of awards or upgrades available (as shown by this screen cap)
Thank you, this is what i meant, but I am not an english speaking expert
BTW, a new business award "E" class reserved for Elite+ is available on AF for USA/Canada and PPT.

But, one reason I do not use Expert Flyer is that it is a very light tool for (awards and upgrades) Skyteam flyers, even if it is very explicit (as I recognize above)

Pardon me if I am wrong, but I don't find anything about 8 compagnies (!) of Skyteam alliance in http://www.expertflyer.com/popup/classes.jsp
id est: CO, KL, KE, AZ, SU, KE, CZ and UX...
that are available( but not as explicit, I agree) in KVS tool
Could you tell us why?
Thanks
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Old May 18, 2008, 9:11 pm
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Originally Posted by delanotre
Thank you, this is what i meant, but I am not an english speaking expert
BTW, a new business award "E" class reserved for Elite+ is available on AF for USA/Canada and PPT.

But, one reason I do not use Expert Flyer is that it is a very light tool for (awards and upgrades) Skyteam flyers, even if it is very explicit (as I recognize above)

Pardon me if I am wrong, but I don't find anything about 8 compagnies (!) of Skyteam alliance in http://www.expertflyer.com/popup/classes.jsp
id est: CO, KL, KE, AZ, SU, KE, CZ and UX...
that are available( but not as explicit, I agree) in KVS tool
Could you tell us why?
Thanks

Good question. Since this has been asked before, we chose to answer it on our blog here with a detailed explanation. Please feel free to continue the discussion in the blog comments.

-EFV
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Old May 18, 2008, 9:41 pm
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Thankfully, KVS Tool users are too intelligent to fall for such a Black PR campaign ...
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Old May 19, 2008, 7:25 am
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Originally Posted by KVS


Thankfully, KVS Tool users are too intelligent to fall for such a Black PR campaign ...
Ouch! Enough of this. You guys have good, but different, services both of which are well respected by their users - many of which use both tools in case you haven't noticed. Delanotre was asking a legitimate question that pointed out one of many differences between a service that gives a numerical answer to award inventory and one that gives a relative answer each with different ways of querying for it. Black PR? Give me a break.

Now back to the thread......
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Old May 19, 2008, 4:30 pm
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Need UA help

Okay I have a stupid question. I just got the KVS Plat tool and just cant seem to figure out how to tell if there is upgrade space for domestic/intl travel on UA. I'm use to using seatcounter and I know that this tool is better... I put in my city pairs use the Apollo search causee I want to see all classes available and also X and I inventory but I don't even see zeros for my search. I know I can search for awards under STN, but is that just for mileage awards or for upgrdes too (i assume mileage awards because you need to enter in ANA #).

Thanks
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Old May 19, 2008, 4:56 pm
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Originally Posted by rkaradi
Okay I have a stupid question. I just got the KVS Plat tool and just cant seem to figure out how to tell if there is upgrade space for domestic/intl travel on UA. I'm use to using seatcounter and I know that this tool is better... I put in my city pairs use the Apollo search causee I want to see all classes available and also X and I inventory but I don't even see zeros for my search. I know I can search for awards under STN, but is that just for mileage awards or for upgrdes too (i assume mileage awards because you need to enter in ANA #).

Thanks
UA's award and upgrade classes have 2 sets of internal 'nicknames', which often causes a confusion:

UA's award classes (FS=O AKA R/XF, CS=I AKA O/XC, YS=X AKA N/XY) are shown via the [SNT: Awards/StarAlliance] Method.
UA's upgrade classes (X/NF, I/NC) are not currently supported by the KVS Tool.

Pls see http://FAQ.KVSTool.com for details ...
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Old May 19, 2008, 7:11 pm
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Originally Posted by KVS
UA's upgrade classes (X/NF, I/NC) are not currently supported by the KVS Tool.

Pls see http://FAQ.KVSTool.com for details ...
Thank you, any suggestions on how to find the upgrade inventory besides seatcounter.
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Old May 19, 2008, 8:17 pm
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Register at UAL.com and choose 'an expert' under
My profile: My travel preferences ->Display preferences -> Availability format

if that setting is in place and you do any flight search you can see the detailed fare bucket availability when you place the mouse pointer over 'Show flight details '
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Old May 19, 2008, 9:38 pm
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Originally Posted by rkaradi
Thank you, any suggestions on how to find the upgrade inventory besides seatcounter.
UAL.com (as described by oliver2002 above) is the only other known source for UA upgrade availability...
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Old May 21, 2008, 12:28 am
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Just a quick question to the experts:
Does KVS look up internet bookings on Malaysia Airlines?

I picked up a $0++ fare and a $29++ fare today and would like to see the PNR in a PNR lookup. MH seems to not have a straight lookup facility on its site.

viewtrip.com seems to not work for my PNRs.

One last thing - will it run OK on a crappy low-end Compaq 2Ghz Celeron w. 1Gb RAM and the horrible hog Vista?
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Old May 21, 2008, 1:15 am
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Originally Posted by BiziBB
Just a quick question to the experts:
Does KVS look up internet bookings on Malaysia Airlines?

I picked up a $0++ fare and a $29++ fare today and would like to see the PNR in a PNR lookup. MH seems to not have a straight lookup facility on its site.

viewtrip.com seems to not work for my PNRs.

One last thing - will it run OK on a crappy low-end Compaq 2Ghz Celeron w. 1Gb RAM and the horrible hog Vista?
You can enter your eticket number at the "OneWorld E-Ticket" function. Although MH is not part of OW it still works. I even entered my UA ticket, which has just UA flights, and it worked.
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