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Old Nov 11, 2014, 2:41 am
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Where does the KVS tool get its data and is KVS authorized to provide this data in the manner it is presented?

The tool is known to access a variety of web sites, many in a manner that is not authorized. Please see the next section of this Wiki for a list of sites believed to be accessed and their data access policies (where known).

Additionally, under some conditions the tool appears to access sites via a KVS-operated back end. This means that the tool is not just a 'web browser' that runs via a user's machine. No detailed public information is available about how this works or whether any of this back-end access is authorized.

Websites KVS Accesses and their relevant Terms of Use

http://book.aircanada.com/pl/AConlin...verrideServlet
http://book.aircanada.com/pl/AConlin...PreviewServlet
https://book.aircanada.com/pl/AConli...verrideServlet
https://www.aircanada.com
Terms of Use:
http://www.aircanada.com/en/about/legal/notice.html
Use of our web site for any other purpose, including any commercial use or purpose, is expressly prohibited.
Without limiting the generality of the foregoing, you agree that, in using or accessing our website, you shall not commit or participate in any of the following acts or actions, each of which is expressly prohibited under this User Agreement:
directly or indirectly, use or access, or encourage, solicit, permit, facilitate, aid, assist or abet, including, but not limited to, the selling, licensing, distribution or provision to any person of any means that permit, the use or access, or agree to provide the use or access, of our website through any manual process or any automatic, electronic or technical device, including but not limited to automated scripts, robots, crawls, screen scrapers, web "bots", deep-links, indexes, spiders, click-spams, macro programs, or any other device, program, software, system, algorithm, methodology or technology, now known or hereinafter discovered, that performs the same or a similar function, in order to, without limitation: "data mine"; "screen scrape"; data process; access, extract, copy, distribute, aggregate or acquire information; generate impressions or clicks; input or store information; search or generate searches; or manipulate or monitor any portion or content of our website;

http://data.flight24.com/flights/
Terms of Use:
http://www.flightradar24.com/terms-and-conditions
Website’s information and Services are provided for personal, non-commercial use only. Permission is granted to temporarily download one copy of the materials (information or software) on Flightradar24’s web site for personal, non-commercial transitory viewing only. This is the grant of a license, not a transfer of title, and under this license you may not:

Modify or copy the materials;
Use the materials for any commercial purpose, or for any public display (commercial or non-commercial);
Attempt to decompile or reverse engineer any software contained on Flightradar24's web site;
Remove any copyright or other proprietary notations from the materials; or
Transfer the materials to another person or "mirror" the materials on any other server.

This license shall automatically terminate if you violate any of these restrictions and may be terminated by Flightradar24 at any time. Upon terminating your viewing of these materials or upon the termination of this license, you must destroy any downloaded materials in your possession whether in electronic or printed format.

http://data.seatexpert.com/tpi/find.php
Terms of Use:

http://plane.lan.com/cgi-bin/recibo_...bo_eticket.cgi
Terms of Use:
http://www.lan.com/en_us/sitio_perso...-use/about-us/
You may use the information on our site solely for non-commercial purposes, and any use or modification of the website contents is not permitted.

http://reservations.usairways.com/Default.aspx
Terms of Use:
http://reservations.usairways.com/en-US/aboutus/site_usage_policy.html
Content may be used for non-commercial personal use only, and you agree not to modify, copy, transmit, distribute, display, perform, reproduce, publish, license, create derivative works from, sell or otherwise transfer any information, software, products or services obtained from the Site without prior written permission from US Airways. You agree not to use any automatic device, manual process, or scraping to monitor or copy the Site or the content contained therein for any purpose without US Airways’ prior written permission. You agree not to use any device, software or routine to interfere with or attempt to interfere with the proper working of the Site or any activities conducted on the Site.

https://book.austrian.com/app/fb.fly
Terms of Use:
http://www.austrian.com/Info/LegalRegulations/WebsiteTerms.aspx?sc_lang=en&cc=AT
2. Proprietary rights
All trademark rights, copyrights, database rights and other intellectual property rights to the contents of the Austrian-website, (as well as the organization and layout of the website), together with the underlying software code rest, either with Austrian or with its licensors. You may not, either in whole or in part, copy, modify, distribute or use or reproduce in other form contents of the Austrian-website, or the underlying software code, without the prior written consent of Austrian.

3. Permissible use
All Austrian-website online services (including the booking machine) are provided solely for the purpose of enabling you to check the availability of goods or services relating to your journey (the timetable, for example), make legitimate reservations, use our online check-in or transact other business with suppliers. You may only use the website in accordance with these terms and conditions and for the legally permitted purposes described above. In particular, you indicate your agreement to the following:
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3.5 You may not reproduce information from the Austrian-website for commercial purposes. This also includes providing prices for Austrian flights on another website or another online server. In particular you may not copy, distribute, in other way use or reproduce discarded content from the Austrian-website with the help of 'robots', other search machine technologies or through other automatic mechanisms.

https://booking.qatarairways.com/qri...Booking.action
Terms of Use:

https://book.tam.com.br/TAM/dyn/air/...ng/retrievePNR
Terms of Use:

https://classic.checkmytrip.com/plne...ievePNR.action
Terms of Use:
(D) not to use any automated system or software to extract data from the Application, Documents or Services for commercial purposes (such as screen scraping);

https://en.aegeanair.com
Terms of Use:

https://eservice.evaair.com
Terms of Use:

https://flymas.mobi/itravel/viewBooking.xhtml
Terms of Use:

https://fly.rj.com/MyBookings/Home/EN/Default.aspx
Terms of Use:

http://skyvector.com/airport/
Terms of Use:

https://m.aeroflot.ru/b/info/pnr/load
Terms of Use:

https://mm.alitalia.com/GB_EN/booking/apvsearch.aspx
Terms of Use:

https://mobile1.emirates.com/myb/review.xhtml
Terms of Use:

https://myb.s7.ru/getMyBooking.action
Terms of Use:

https://mytripandmore.com/Itinerary.aspx
Terms of Use:
https://mytripandmore.com/TermsAndConditions.aspx
Except as expressly permitted by these Terms, you may not:
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9. use any "robot", "spider" or other automatic device, software, program, algorithm, routine, methodology, or any manual process or functionality:
...to monitor, assemble, analyse, index, copy, transmit, distribute, transfer, or link to any of the pages, data, materials, or content available on the Site,

https://pilotweb.nas.faa.gov/PilotWe...yICAOAction.do
Terms of Use:

https://prefunds.aa.com/refunds/receipt
https://www.aa.com/reservation/findReservationSubmit.do
Terms of Use:
https://www.aa.com/i18n/footer/siteUsage.jsp
Intellectual property notifications
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D. American Airlines owns or uses by permission all software contained on the Site, including without limitation all HTML code and Active X controls. Copyright and other laws and international treaty provisions protect this software. The law expressly prohibits any modification, redistribution, or reproduction of the software, and such actions could result in severe civil and criminal penalties. American Airlines will seek and support prosecuting violators to the maximum extent possible.
E. You may not copy, display, distribute, download, license, modify, publish, re-post, reproduce, reuse, sell, transmit, use to create a derivative work, or otherwise use the content of the Site for public or commercial purposes. Nothing on the Site shall be construed to confer any grant or license of any intellectual property rights, whether by estoppel, by implication, or otherwise.
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Limitations on your use:
You agree that you will not Misuse the Site. "Misuse" includes, but is not limited to, using the Site to do any of the following:
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L. Copy or create derivative works from, display, distribute, license, perform, publish, recreate, reproduce, sell, transfer, or transmit any information, products, services, or software obtained by, from, or through the Site.
M. Monitor or copy any Content by using any manual process, or any robot, spider, or other automatic device, without first obtaining American Airlines' prior written consent.

https://raw.github.com/opentraveldat...i_airlines.csv
Terms of Use:

https://secure.jetairways.com/PlatformID/Identify.aspx
Terms of Use:

https://tickets.airtran.com/SeatAvailability.aspx
Terms of Use:
http://www.southwest.com/html/about-...ons/index.html
Prohibited Activities

You may not copy, display, distribute, download, license, modify, publish, re-post, reproduce, reuse, sell, transmit, use to create a derivative work, or otherwise use the content of this site for public or commercial purposes without our express written permission. Nothing on this site shall be construed to confer any grant or license of any intellectual property rights, whether by estoppel, by implication, or otherwise.

You may not modify, re-render, frame, mirror, truncate, add to, inject, filter or change the order of the information contained on any page of the Southwest Airlines sites, including, without limitation, by any way of reproducing Southwest Airlines or SWABiz® web pages or Company information on any other web site without our express written permission.

You may not copy, derive, edit, translate, decompile, reverse engineer, modify, use, or reproduce any code or source relating to our sites, including without limitation, any service or product Southwest offers.

You may not cause to appear any pop-up, pop-under, exit windows, expanding buttons, banners advertisement, or anything else which minimizes, covers, or otherwise inhibits the full display of the Southwest Airlines sites.

You may not use any deep-link, page-scrape, robot, crawl, index, spider, click spam, macro programs, Internet agent, or other automatic device, program, algorithm or methodology which does the same things, to use, access, copy, acquire information, generate impressions or clicks, input information, store information, search, generate searches, or monitor any portion of the Southwest Airlines sites or Company information.
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You may not disguise the origin of information transmitted to, from, or through the Southwest Airlines sites. You may not circumvent any measures implemented by Southwest Airlines aimed at preventing violations of the Use Agreement. You may not violate the restrictions in any robot exclusion header.

When you use the Southwest Airlines sites or Company information for an authorized purpose, you must include all proprietary notices without changing, hiding or deleting them.

You may not engage in any conduct that is, or that Southwest Airlines deems to be, in violation of this Use Agreement.

https://wftc3.e-travel.com
Terms of Use:

https://wtrweb.worldtracer.aero/WorldTracerWeb/pax.do
Terms of Use:

https://www121.jal.co.jp/JmbWeb/JR/S...MileCalc_en.do
Terms of Use:

https://www4.thy.com/mybookings/ETDisplay.tk
https://www4.thy.com/mybookings/getPnr.tk
Terms of Use:

https://www.airberlin.com/en-DE/cockpit
Terms of Use:

https://www.airfrance.fr/cgi-bin/AF/...chPnrAction.do
Terms of Use:

https://www.alaskaair.com/booking/reservationlookup
Terms of Use:

https://www.bookonline.saudiairlines...verride.action
https://www.bookonline.saudiairlines...verride.action
Terms of Use:

https://www.britishairways.com/trave...g/public/en_gb
Terms of Use:

https://www.checkmytrip.com/CMTSERVLET
Terms of Use:
https://www.checkmytrip.com/cmt/apf/...&SITE=NCMTNCMT
3. Licence restrictions

3.1 Except as expressly set out in this EULA or as permitted by any local law, you agree:
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(D) not to use any automated system or software to extract data from the Application, Documents or Services for commercial purposes (such as screen scraping);

https://www.delta.com/mytrips/findPnr.action
http://www.delta.com/ism/SeatMapDisplay.action
http://www.delta.com/shared/components/blank.jsp
Terms of Use:

https://www.finnair.com
Terms of Use:

https://www.flysas.com
Terms of Use:

https://www.iberia.com/web/retrievePNR.do
Terms of Use:

https://www.lot.com
Terms of Use:

https://www.lufthansa.com
Terms of Use:
http://www.lufthansa.com/online/port...d=2016866&l=en

2. Proprietary rights
...You may not, either in whole or in part, copy, modify, distribute or use or reproduce in other form contents of the Lufthansa-website, or the underlying software code, without the prior written consent of Deutsche Lufthansa AG.
https://www.routehappy.com/
Terms of Use:

https://www.swiss.com
Terms of Use:

https://www.tripforyou.net/t4u/PTopAction.do
Terms of Use:

https://www.tripple.jp
Terms of Use:

https://www.united.com/web/en-US/app...n/default.aspx
Terms of Use:
https://www.united.com/web/en-US/content/legal.aspx This website is for the User's personal, noncommercial use only. User agrees not to modify, copy, alter, distribute, transmit, display, perform, reproduce, publish, license, create derivative works from, transfer, or sell any information, software, products or services obtained from this website without United’s prior written permission. User agrees not to use any robot, spider, other automatic device, or manual process to monitor or copy this website or the content contained therein or for any other unauthorized purpose without United’s prior written permission. ... United reserves the right to investigate any illegal and/or unauthorized use of this website, including, but not limited to, unauthorized framing of this website or unauthorized use of any robot, spider or other automated device, and to take appropriate legal action, including, without limitation, civil, criminal and injunctive redress.

https://www.viewtrip.com/GetItin.aspx
Terms of Use:

https://www.virginamerica.com/book/ow/a1/
Terms of Use:

https://www.virgin-atlantic.com/en/g...ndBooking.next
Terms of Use:

https://www.virtuallythere.com/new/reservations.html
Terms of Use:

http://weather.noaa.gov/weather/current/
Terms of Use:

http://worldaerodata.com/wad.cgi
Terms of Use:

http://www.airframes.org/fleet/
Terms of Use:

http://www.cathaypacific.com/cx/en_H...oking-now.html
Terms of Use:

http://www.flightradar24.com/
Terms of Use:

http://www.FlightStats.com/go/Flight...ingByFlight.do
http://www.FlightStats.com/go/Flight...tusByFlight.do
Terms of Use:

http://www.flightview.com/TravelTool...eryResults.asp
http://www.flightview.com/TravelTools/viewairport.asp
Terms of Use:

http://www.gcmap.com/airport/
http://www.gcmap.com/mapui
Terms of Use:
http://www.gcmap.com/faq/using
Q: May I use the Great Circle Mapper's maps on my web page?
A: You may use maps generated by the Great Circle Mapper on non-commercial web pages (q.v. commericial use below) so long as you do not profit from them and you include the following credit on pages which include maps:
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Q: May I use the Great Circle Mapper's maps for commercial sites or publications?
A: Please write to Karl L. Swartz regarding terms for commercial use of the maps.

http://www.iata.org/about/members/Pa...line-list.aspx
Terms of Use:
http://www.iata.org/Pages/terms.aspx
2. Your Conduct

The content on this Site is for your personal use only within the organization or entity to which you are attached as applicable, and it is not intended for commercial exploitation unless expressly agreed in writing by IATA through a duly authorized representative. IATA authorizes you to download or reproduce selected materials at this Site only for your personal, non-commercial use, in the ordinary course of business provided that you retain all copyright and other proprietary notices contained in the original materials on any copies of the materials and that the title or database brand name and IATA name is stated as the source.

You may not otherwise modify, disassemble, create derivative works, distribute, reproduce, publicly display, perform, transmit, re-transmit, sell, rent, sublicense, or otherwise use any materials or content on this Site for commercial or non-commercial exploitation by yourself or the organization or entity to which you are attached or permit third parties to so do. Without limitation, unlimited or wholesale reproduction, copying of the content for commercial or non-commercial purposes and unwarranted modification of data and information within the content is not permitted, and any use of these materials on any other website or networked computer environment for any purpose without IATA’s prior written consent is prohibited.
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...You must not modify, decompile, or reverse engineer any software IATA discloses to you via this Site, and you must not remove, overprint, or deface any notice of copyright, trademark, logo, legend, or other notice of ownership from any originals or copies of software or information from the website. "IATA Trademarks" means all names, marks, brands, URL names or addresses, logos, designs, trade dress and other designations IATA uses in connection with Products or Services. You are not permitted to incorporate any IATA Trademarks into any other trademarks, service marks, company names, Internet addresses, domain names, or any other similar designations. Any unauthorized use of any materials contained on this website may violate copyright laws, trademark laws, the laws of privacy and publicity, and communications regulations and statutes.

http://www.itn.net/cgi/get
Terms of Use:

http://www.kenya-airways.com/kqbook.aspx
Terms of Use:

http://www.myairlines.ru
Terms of Use:

http://www.qantas.com.au/regions/do/dyn/checkmytrip
Terms of Use:

http://www.seatexpert.com/multiple_results.php
Terms of Use:

http://www.seatguru.com/ajax/findseatmap.php
Terms of Use:

http://www.seatmaestro.com/airlines-...eckmytrip.html
http://www.seatmaestro.com/themes/de...te_airline.php
Terms of Use:

http://www.seatplans.com/ajax/Airline
http://www.seatplans.com/ajax/airports-and-city
http://www.seatplans.com/find-and-compare/
Terms of Use:
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Old May 21, 2008, 11:32 am
  #1951  
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Originally Posted by BiziBB
Just a quick question to the experts:
Does KVS look up internet bookings on Malaysia Airlines?

I picked up a $0++ fare and a $29++ fare today and would like to see the PNR in a PNR lookup. MH seems to not have a straight lookup facility on its site.

viewtrip.com seems to not work for my PNRs.
Pls see ual744777sta's answer above...

Originally Posted by BiziBB
One last thing - will it run OK on a crappy low-end Compaq 2Ghz Celeron w. 1Gb RAM and the horrible hog Vista?
Absolutely. In fact it can even run on systems that are as ancient as 15 years old with 8MBs (0.008 GBs) of RAM!
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Old May 21, 2008, 11:57 am
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Originally Posted by ual744777sta
You can enter your eticket number at the "OneWorld E-Ticket" function. Although MH is not part of OW it still works. I even entered my UA ticket, which has just UA flights, and it worked.
Thanks for the tip! ^

If you and/or other Platinum-tier members could try to use that function with other non-OW airlines' e-Ticket numbers and report the results here, I will compile an extended list of supported carriers ...
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Old May 21, 2008, 1:27 pm
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It works with several non-oneworld-airlines like Air France and Lufthansa, but not with Emirates.

Last edited by jarino; May 21, 2008 at 5:51 pm Reason: confused
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Old May 21, 2008, 2:04 pm
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See http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showt...04#post9773404

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Old May 21, 2008, 5:45 pm
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Originally Posted by KVS
I suspect that it will work with the following (airlines already confirmed are in bold):
It definitely shows e-tickets on AF and LH stock who are not on your list, but no luck for EK stock for me. (BD stock doesn't work either)
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Old May 21, 2008, 6:59 pm
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Thanks for the tips. I have only received one e-mail from MH re. one of the paid bookings. It has the e-ticket number so I can use teh LAN or OW checker.

I will have to check w. MH on the lak of an e-mail for the earlier paid booking.
MH e-ticket number didn't work.

Maybe I should type it as 232-xxxxx... ?
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Old May 21, 2008, 7:21 pm
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FYI MH cancelled my original booking (which had references re payment) so it actually cancelled two bookings! One paid, one not recognised as paid, so requested for a biller reversal.

The third one worked and I'm just rebooking the original flight. Fingers crossed that I can get a confirmation (from SITA) with eticket numbers, then I know it was completed!

Fingers crossed it gets all the way through the MAS payment gateway this time...
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Old May 22, 2008, 10:55 am
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Asiana worked for me via OW

Originally Posted by KVS
If you and/or other Platinum-tier members could try to use that function with other non-OW airlines' e-Ticket numbers and report the results here, I will compile an extended list of supported carriers ...

I was happy to see that my OZ eticket number (booked via travelocity) did work through the OW option.
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Old May 22, 2008, 11:15 am
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Originally Posted by jarino
It works with several non-oneworld-airlines like Air France and Lufthansa, but not with Emirates.
Originally Posted by jarino
It definitely shows e-tickets on AF and LH stock who are not on your list, but no luck for EK stock for me. (BD stock doesn't work either)
Originally Posted by shyabrasive
I was happy to see that my OZ eticket number (booked via travelocity) did work through the OW option.
Thanks for the info -- I have updated the list above with this info.
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Old May 22, 2008, 2:21 pm
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UA works with the LA/OW feature.
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Old May 24, 2008, 12:54 pm
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Originally Posted by ual744777sta
UA works with the LA/OW feature.
Thanks for confirming. Here is an updated list:

Code:
AM Aeromexico
MX Compania Mexicana de Aviacion, S.A.
AS Alaska Airlines Inc.
AA American Airlines Inc.
NH All Nippon Airways Co. Ltd.
QF Qantas Airways Limited
AY Finnair Oyj
BA British Airways p.l.c.
OZ Asiana Airlines Inc.
EI Aer Lingus Limited
CX Cathay Pacific Airways Ltd.
P5 Aero Republica S.A.
IB Iberia, Lineas Aereas de Espana, S.A.
AC Air Canada
9W Jet Airways (India) Limited
CI China Airlines Ltd.
AZ Alitalia- Linee Aeree Italiane
CO Continental Airlines, Inc.
MA Malev Hungarian Airlines Ltd.
JK Spanair, S.A.
NZ Air New Zealand Limited
JL Japan Airlines International Company Limited
KE Korean Air Lines Co. Ltd.
CM Compania Panamena de Aviacion, S.A.
DL Delta Airlines Inc.
NW Northwest Airlines, Inc.
SK Scandinavian Airlines System (SAS)
VT Air Tahiti
LP Lan Peru S.A.
SA South African Airways
MH Malaysia Airline System Berhad
TA Taca International Airlines, S.A.
LR Lineas Aereas Costarricenses S.A.
RJ Royal Jordanian
XL Lan Ecuador - Aerolane Lineas Aereas
TN Air Tahiti Nui
TP TAP - Air Portugal
CZ China Southern Airlines
HR Hahn Air Lines
UA United Airlines, Inc.
KA Hong Kong Dragon Airlines Limited
SQ Singapore Airlines Limited
4M Aero 2000 S.A.
AV Aerovias del Continente Americano S.A
TG Thai Airways International Public Company
MS Egyptair
AF Air France
LH Lufthansa
US US Airways

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Old May 25, 2008, 8:06 am
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When I used KVS tool to determine Sky Team award availability (especially when I clicked on Delta airlines), for any route (eg YOW-ATL, or YOW-MCO), the message said that the routing was too complex for award availability to be displayed. That does not make sense, as there are 2 Delta nonstop flights a day between Ottawa and Atlanta.
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Old May 25, 2008, 8:34 am
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Thanks, just pulled up etickets on AS and US stock using the LA/OW feature, I hadn't realized this was possible ^

Thought I'd share the report since I didn't see US in your list yet.
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Old May 25, 2008, 10:00 am
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Originally Posted by FlyerGoldII
When I used KVS tool to determine Sky Team award availability (especially when I clicked on Delta airlines), for any route (eg YOW-ATL, or YOW-MCO), the message said that the routing was too complex for award availability to be displayed. That does not make sense, as there are 2 Delta nonstop flights a day between Ottawa and Atlanta.
What dates are you looking at? I just did a search between YOW-ATL and came up with the following for June 4th 08:

[KVS Availability Tool 3.1.0/Platinum - ORT: Awards/SkyTeam/US-NWA]

YOW Ottawa Metro / Ottawa Int'l ON CA = YOW [CYOW]
ATL Atlanta William B Hartsfield GA US [KATL]
WED 04 Jun 2008 / 1 Seat

Carrier Flight From Depart To Arrive A/C Availability
--------- ------ ---- --------- ---- --------- ---- ---- ----------------
DL 4696 YOW 07:15 ATL 10:01 CRJ CS- CA- YS+ YA-
DL 4349 YOW 13:45 ATL 16:24 CRJ CS- CA- YS+ YA-
NW/9E 2874 YOW 06:00 DTW 07:40 CRJ CS+ CA+ YS+ YA+
-> NW 477 DTW 09:27 ATL 11:34 DC9
NW/9E 2878 YOW 00:15 +1 DTW 14:00 CRJ CS- CA+ YS+ YA+
-> NW 469 DTW 15:29 ATL 17:32 DC9
NW/9E 2878 YOW 00:15 +1 DTW 14:00 CRJ CS- CA- YS+ YA-
-> NW/DL 9608 DTW 17:26 ATL 19:30
NW/9E 2878 YOW 00:15 +1 DTW 14:00 CRJ CS+ CA+ YS+ YA+
-> NW 473 DTW 17:32 ATL 19:39 DC9
NW/9E 2880 YOW 16:05 DTW 17:50 CRJ CS- CA- YS+ YA-
-> NW/DL 9450 DTW 18:50 ATL 20:51
NW/9E 2880 YOW 16:05 DTW 17:50 CRJ CS+ CA+ YS- YA+
-> NW 465 DTW 19:18 ATL 21:15 DC9
NW/9E 2878 YOW 00:15 +1 DTW 14:00 CRJ CS- CA- YS+ YA-
-> DL 6449 DTW 16:18 ATL 18:28
NW/9E 2878 YOW 00:15 +1 DTW 14:00 CRJ CS- CA- YS+ YA-
-> DL 4361 DTW 17:26 ATL 19:30
NW/9E 2880 YOW 16:05 DTW 17:50 CRJ CS- CA- YS+ YA-
-> DL 1495 DTW 18:50 ATL 20:51
CO 2712 YOW 06:20 CLE 08:10 CS- CA- YS+ YA+
-> CO 2013 CLE 09:00 ATL 10:47
CO 2369 YOW 06:07 EWR 07:30 CS- CA- YS+ YA+
-> CO 1165 EWR 09:00 ATL 11:39 737
CO 2892 YOW 10:30 EWR 11:50 CS- CA- YS+ YA+
-> CO 1161 EWR 13:45 ATL 16:09 737
CO 2623 YOW 15:35 EWR 17:17 CS- CA- YS- YA+
-> CO 1299 EWR 19:30 ATL 22:15
CO 2369 YOW 06:07 EWR 07:30 CS- CA- YS+ YA-
-> DL 1023 EWR 08:25 ATL 10:50
CO 2712 YOW 06:20 CLE 08:10 CS- CA- YS+ YA-
-> DL 4868 CLE 09:45 ATL 11:33
CO 2369 YOW 06:07 EWR 07:30 CS- CA- YS+ YA-
-> DL 883 EWR 10:00 ATL 00:25 +1
CO 2892 YOW 10:30 EWR 11:50 CS- CA- YS+ YA-
-> DL 1553 EWR 13:00 ATL 15:14 737
NW/9E 2878 YOW 00:15 +1 DTW 14:00 CRJ CS+ CA- YS+ YA-
-> NW 285 DTW 15:11 MEM 16:14 DC9
-> NW/DL 9166 MEM 17:07 ATL 19:25
NW/9E 2878 YOW 00:15 +1 DTW 14:00 CRJ CS+ CA- YS+ YA-
-> NW 285 DTW 15:11 MEM 16:14 DC9
-> DL 772 MEM 17:07 ATL 19:25
CO 2369 YOW 06:07 EWR 07:30 CS- CA- YS+ YA-
-> CO 1285 EWR 09:00 DCA 10:10
-> DL 811 DCA 11:00 ATL 00:49 +1
CO 2369 YOW 06:07 EWR 07:30 CS- CA- YS+ YA-
-> CO 1285 EWR 09:00 DCA 10:10
-> DL 813 DCA 11:55 ATL 13:42
CO 2369 YOW 06:07 EWR 07:30 CS- CA- YS+ YA-
-> CO 2064 EWR 09:25 RIC 11:05
-> DL 2039 RIC 00:25 +1 ATL 14:10
CO 2369 YOW 06:07 EWR 07:30 CS- CA- YS+ YA-
-> CO 1202 EWR 09:05 IAD 10:34
-> DL 1069 IAD 00:20 +1 ATL 14:11 737
CO 2369 YOW 06:07 EWR 07:30 CS- CA- YS+ YA-
-> CO 1285 EWR 09:00 DCA 10:10
-> DL 815 DCA 00:55 +1 ATL 14:43
CO 2892 YOW 10:30 EWR 11:50 CS- CA- YS+ YA-
-> CO 1204 EWR 13:00 IAD 14:13
-> DL 1852 IAD 15:15 ATL 17:04
CO 2892 YOW 10:30 EWR 11:50 CS- CA- YS+ YA-
-> CO 3046 EWR 00:45 +1 RIC 14:03
-> DL 1437 RIC 16:10 ATL 17:52 757
CO 2369 YOW 06:07 EWR 07:30 CS- CA- YS+ YA-
-> CO 3211 EWR 08:40 BWI 09:55
-> DL 815 DCA 00:55 +1 ATL 14:43
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Old May 25, 2008, 12:53 pm
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Originally Posted by FlyerGoldII
When I used KVS tool to determine Sky Team award availability (especially when I clicked on Delta airlines), for any route (eg YOW-ATL, or YOW-MCO), the message said that the routing was too complex for award availability to be displayed. That does not make sense, as there are 2 Delta nonstop flights a day between Ottawa and Atlanta.
Originally Posted by 1K+
What dates are you looking at? I just did a search between YOW-ATL and came up with the following for June 4th 08:
When a specific airline (e.g. DL) is selected, that error message may be indicative of the absence of award availability for that date...
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