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bruinflyer Jul 5, 2016 12:17 pm


Originally Posted by 747FC (Post 26873674)
Have you received an eticket confirmation on your booked and upgraded itinerary?

It's a mix: I got an email from my travel agent with details and my eticket number and original Y class. The Aeroplan website confirmed my 3 upgrades, but I never got any further email confirmation. I was able to go into TK website and select seats for one of my biz class segments but their site is fairly broken and won't let me select seats for the other segments (regardless of cabin).

Is there anything specific I should be looking for?

Note that I'm interested in my particular situation but I tried to ask a generic question to help add value to the community. The generic answer is still useful to post here, even if there's a workaround for me.

ExpertFlyer Voice Jul 5, 2016 2:26 pm


Originally Posted by bruinflyer (Post 26873270)
That's good to know, but I'm still curious about how accurate EF's data is. The biz cabin is reasonable free (9 of 30 taken) and has C, D, J and O available (now, I class is zero, but it was also zero on the other three segments I booked, before I booked my J upgrades).

Any further data to be had out there? Thanks again!

ExpertFlyer data is the same as your travel agent sees, it's from the same source.

Seat maps are not an indicator of ticket availability (award/upgrade availability especially) as you can have sold tickets with unassigned seats, among other things.

bruinflyer Jul 5, 2016 2:33 pm

To add a bit more data here the TK website shows I'm in I-class nows for the segments that properly got upgraded. My remaining economy segment is still Y-class.


Originally Posted by ExpertFlyer Voice (Post 26874424)
ExpertFlyer data is the same as your travel agent sees, it's from the same source.

Seat maps are not an indicator of ticket availability (award/upgrade availability especially) as you can have sold tickets with unassigned seats, among other things.

Apologies I didn't mean to imply the simplistic approach "hey there are seats in biz class why can't I upgrade to one?!?!?" I instead just meant to address the earlier general comment that it might be filling up (I don't believe it really is). To reiterate the reason I'm curious: I used aeroplan.com to upgrade a Y-Class with miles to biz while EF showed J=4, I=0 on one segment and was unable to perform the same upgrade on the symmetric segment (literally the return leg of the same flight a few days later with the same plane, exact same number of booked seats in a code-by-code comparison).

Unfortunately the flights no longer look the same (which makes sense, since I've taken a few of the J-or-I seats).

bruinflyer Jul 5, 2016 2:37 pm


Originally Posted by armouredant (Post 26872912)
Based on this page, I think TK books business class awards into I class

My reading agrees with yours. I think the EF sync that shows J=4 right now is a red herring and I likely booked I-class and EF just happened to be incorrectly showing I=0 when in fact it was available.

Globaliser Jul 5, 2016 2:51 pm


Originally Posted by bruinflyer (Post 26874472)
My reading agrees with yours. I think the EF sync that shows J=4 right now is a red herring and I likely booked I-class and EF just happened to be incorrectly showing I=0 when in fact it was available.

Or, possibly, might there have been POS differences? A bit of poking around can sometimes illustrate how real those differences can be, if you switch between US and UK POS displays for a particular flight.

bruinflyer Jul 5, 2016 7:29 pm


Originally Posted by Globaliser (Post 26874523)
Or, possibly, might there have been POS differences? A bit of poking around can sometimes illustrate how real those differences can be, if you switch between US and UK POS displays for a particular flight.

Sorry I'm blanking on what "POS" means...?

TWA884 Jul 5, 2016 8:43 pm


Originally Posted by bruinflyer (Post 26875493)
Sorry I'm blanking on what "POS" means...?

Point Of Sale.

Globaliser Jul 6, 2016 1:40 am


Originally Posted by TWA884 (Post 26875771)

Originally Posted by bruinflyer (Post 26875493)
Sorry I'm blanking on what "POS" means...?

Point Of Sale.

So, for example, if you're in the UK, you might be shown 4 I class seats; if you're in the US, you might be shown zero; and if you're in Canada, you might be shown 7.

That's an explanation for many of the occasions on which someone says "EF told me there are x seats in y class, but the airline said that there aren't any".

bruinflyer Jul 6, 2016 7:20 am


Originally Posted by Globaliser (Post 26876490)
So, for example, if you're in the UK, you might be shown 4 I class seats; if you're in the US, you might be shown zero; and if you're in Canada, you might be shown 7.

That's an explanation for many of the occasions on which someone says "EF told me there are x seats in y class, but the airline said that there aren't any".

Ah, got it. I'm physically in the US and using the Aeroplan.com website and the EF.com website. The Aeroplan site has a language selector, but no other region selection info. The EF size doesn't have any discernible localization controls. Any suggestions for how to tweak those two?

I'm not involving the (absolutely terrible) Turkish website, or it's prototype "new version" that's also available.

I bought my Y-class tickets via AmEx Travel over the phone, but that's not relevant to my searching here since I'm only referring to the info EF has told me relative to what the Aeroplan site lets me do.

Thanks for the details!

TheCount2 Jul 21, 2016 7:51 am

Can't seem to find award info on ET 847 on 7/27. Is there a communication problem with the airline?

ExpertFlyer Voice Jul 21, 2016 9:19 am


Originally Posted by TheCount2 (Post 26947541)
Can't seem to find award info on ET 847 on 7/27. Is there a communication problem with the airline?

No, there isn't any award inventory for any cabin on that flight therefore it isn't returned by the airline.

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ZoomVT Jul 22, 2016 8:37 pm

Trying to find fare information for XL (LAN Ecuador) and not getting any results that match ITA.

Whats the best way to deal with LA (LAN) and all its subsidiaries?

For example, a flight is 2 segments - the first one is XL and the second one is LA (operated by XL) but each leg has different fares available in EF and they dont match so I cant figure out how many available in each bucket and how they combine. I am still able to find the flight available in ITA and I can buy it via LAN and AA but not sure which fare code applies. According to ITA it is D but the LA (XL) leg does not have availability in D. Also the D fare in EF shows something like $3k+ while the D fare in ITA shows $600.

Can anyone help? I find trying to put an itinerary in LA (and subsidiaries) the most difficult.

fedechat Jul 22, 2016 10:04 pm

Did you try ITA tools?

ryan182 Jul 23, 2016 9:55 am

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ExpertFlyer Voice Jul 23, 2016 10:07 am


Originally Posted by ryan182 (Post 26957349)
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