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I also wanted to point out this comparison of light notebooks. It is clearly from a Mac-oriented site but breaks down the tradeoffs for each of the covered models pretty well, both pro and con. http://www.appleinsider.com/articles...notebooks.html
Originally Posted by appleinsider
Of course, users will have the ability to pop open the Air and install their own hard drive as prices of SDD fall and capacities of HDDs rise
I am just waiting to see if we actually get any here in Oz soon to give it a mini roadtest and compare to my current dell 12in Latitude D410 and get approval from IT to supply my own laptop...
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It actually should be easier in a way. Despite the tight quarters, there are fewer components to worry about in there. Stuff like the RAM being soldered on makes things that much simpler. But it's not designed to be something a user can do, so it may remain pretty difficult.
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Here is a photo showing the hard drive (below the guy's hand).
It appears to be as difficult to change as the drives in the Macbook Pros, which are not difficult once you get the case open.
It appears to be as difficult to change as the drives in the Macbook Pros, which are not difficult once you get the case open.
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While I'm admittedly not a Mac fan, I find this laptop especially horrid, from a maintenance and tweaking point of view.
I've used dozens of laptops, and had a couple Sony Vaio's that gave me bad experiences about laptops without optical drives.
All laptops will fail, and some quicker than others, at very inconvenient times. The Vaio's that failed had external optical drives, but I had them stored away and didn't use them very frequently. When the laptops failed, I couldn't find the optical drives, so I couldn't restart the machines with CDs like Knoppix, UBCD, UBCD4Win, or even Win XP install CDs to try to fix the windows install.
I had to open up the Vaios to remove the hard drive (just like the MBA), took it out, slaved it to a desktop, to salvage the data. The lack of an optical drive readily available made it a pain in the rear. I also couldn't reinstall the OS without having to find the optical drives.
So those of you who think the lack of an optical drive is no big deal, make sure you organize your stuff better than I, and keep your optical drive in a safe place that you can get to easily. This seemingly trivial stuff is a real PITA when computer do go wrong.
I hope the bios of the MBA will allow booting from the external optical drive, as that will simplify the install of other OSs or disaster recovery media.
Bottom line though the MBA is a sweet notebook, but there are too many "workarounds" to handle the deficiencies that have been widely discussed here.
I've used dozens of laptops, and had a couple Sony Vaio's that gave me bad experiences about laptops without optical drives.
All laptops will fail, and some quicker than others, at very inconvenient times. The Vaio's that failed had external optical drives, but I had them stored away and didn't use them very frequently. When the laptops failed, I couldn't find the optical drives, so I couldn't restart the machines with CDs like Knoppix, UBCD, UBCD4Win, or even Win XP install CDs to try to fix the windows install.
I had to open up the Vaios to remove the hard drive (just like the MBA), took it out, slaved it to a desktop, to salvage the data. The lack of an optical drive readily available made it a pain in the rear. I also couldn't reinstall the OS without having to find the optical drives.
So those of you who think the lack of an optical drive is no big deal, make sure you organize your stuff better than I, and keep your optical drive in a safe place that you can get to easily. This seemingly trivial stuff is a real PITA when computer do go wrong.
I hope the bios of the MBA will allow booting from the external optical drive, as that will simplify the install of other OSs or disaster recovery media.
Bottom line though the MBA is a sweet notebook, but there are too many "workarounds" to handle the deficiencies that have been widely discussed here.
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While I'm admittedly not a Mac fan, I find this laptop especially horrid, from a maintenance and tweaking point of view.
I've used dozens of laptops, and had a couple Sony Vaio's that gave me bad experiences about laptops without optical drives.
All laptops will fail, and some quicker than others, at very inconvenient times. The Vaio's that failed had external optical drives, but I had them stored away and didn't use them very frequently. When the laptops failed, I couldn't find the optical drives, so I couldn't restart the machines with CDs like Knoppix, UBCD, UBCD4Win, or even Win XP install CDs to try to fix the windows install.
I had to open up the Vaios to remove the hard drive (just like the MBA), took it out, slaved it to a desktop, to salvage the data. The lack of an optical drive readily available made it a pain in the rear. I also couldn't reinstall the OS without having to find the optical drives.
So those of you who think the lack of an optical drive is no big deal, make sure you organize your stuff better than I, and keep your optical drive in a safe place that you can get to easily. This seemingly trivial stuff is a real PITA when computer do go wrong.
I hope the bios of the MBA will allow booting from the external optical drive, as that will simplify the install of other OSs or disaster recovery media.
Bottom line though the MBA is a sweet notebook, but there are too many "workarounds" to handle the deficiencies that have been widely discussed here.
I've used dozens of laptops, and had a couple Sony Vaio's that gave me bad experiences about laptops without optical drives.
All laptops will fail, and some quicker than others, at very inconvenient times. The Vaio's that failed had external optical drives, but I had them stored away and didn't use them very frequently. When the laptops failed, I couldn't find the optical drives, so I couldn't restart the machines with CDs like Knoppix, UBCD, UBCD4Win, or even Win XP install CDs to try to fix the windows install.
I had to open up the Vaios to remove the hard drive (just like the MBA), took it out, slaved it to a desktop, to salvage the data. The lack of an optical drive readily available made it a pain in the rear. I also couldn't reinstall the OS without having to find the optical drives.
So those of you who think the lack of an optical drive is no big deal, make sure you organize your stuff better than I, and keep your optical drive in a safe place that you can get to easily. This seemingly trivial stuff is a real PITA when computer do go wrong.
I hope the bios of the MBA will allow booting from the external optical drive, as that will simplify the install of other OSs or disaster recovery media.
Bottom line though the MBA is a sweet notebook, but there are too many "workarounds" to handle the deficiencies that have been widely discussed here.
http://www.apple.com/macbookair/wireless.html
If the drive were wiped clean, the MBA would still be able to boot from a shared disc over the network. No need to pull it out and connect it to another computer. It's on page 46:
http://manuals.info.apple.com/en/Mac...sers_Guide.pdf
I think it is also possible to boot from a USB thumbdrive, but I haven't tried it.
Now if you don't have another computer's disc drive or the optional external SuperDrive, you're SOL just like your VAIO.
Oh... one other thing, a hardware diagnostic program called "Apple Hardware Test" is "built in" the firmware (EFI). Just restart and hold down the D button and it will startup.
Last edited by Tummy; Jan 30, 2008 at 10:04 pm
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Wow, you missed one of the big features of the MBA called Air Disc. You basically are able to share the disc drive from another PC or Mac over the network. The MBA will even be able to boot off of these network drives, to reinstall the OS for example.
http://www.apple.com/macbookair/wireless.html
If the drive were wiped clean, the MBA would still be able to boot from a shared disc over the network. No need to pull it out and connect it to another computer. It's on page 46:
http://manuals.info.apple.com/en/Mac...sers_Guide.pdf
I think it is also possible to boot from a USB thumbdrive, but I haven't tried it.
Now if you don't have another computer's disc drive or the optional external SuperDrive, you're SOL just like your VAIO.
Oh... one other thing, a hardware diagnostic program called "Apple Hardware Test" is "built in" the firmware (EFI). Just restart and hold down the D button and it will startup.
http://www.apple.com/macbookair/wireless.html
If the drive were wiped clean, the MBA would still be able to boot from a shared disc over the network. No need to pull it out and connect it to another computer. It's on page 46:
http://manuals.info.apple.com/en/Mac...sers_Guide.pdf
I think it is also possible to boot from a USB thumbdrive, but I haven't tried it.
Now if you don't have another computer's disc drive or the optional external SuperDrive, you're SOL just like your VAIO.
Oh... one other thing, a hardware diagnostic program called "Apple Hardware Test" is "built in" the firmware (EFI). Just restart and hold down the D button and it will startup.
There is no magical way to automagically access shared network drives without any OS, unless Apple has some how defeated network protocols and come up with its own BIOS version of network detection and sharing via wifi (highly doubtful).
If the MBA hard drive is wiped clean, there would be no OS to handle network connections and sharing, so how could the MBA access shared network connections? Unless there was a hidden partition that runs an emergency OS with network connections, that would be impossible.
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There is no magical way to automagically access shared network drives without any OS, unless Apple has some how defeated network protocols and come up with its own BIOS version of network detection and sharing via wifi (highly doubtful).
If the MBA hard drive is wiped clean, there would be no OS to handle network connections and sharing, so how could the MBA access shared network connections? Unless there was a hidden partition that runs an emergency OS with network connections, that would be impossible.
Last edited by pdxer; Jan 31, 2008 at 2:18 am
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So no, the X1 is not a landmark model in the segment. Sorry.


