eSIM thread
#1021
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Join Date: Aug 2002
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Airalo was good in that it could be easily purchased and activated before arriving in Japan, and very easy app refill. Ubigi was the same as well.
#1022

Join Date: Apr 2023
Posts: 23
For those interested in Roamless, I finally registered today due to a Black Friday promo. They're still not likely to be the best rate compared to a local eSIM carrier if you're planning heavy usage in a standard timeframe (like 7 days).
However, I think they shine in either low-medium usage or longer timeframes or a lot of travel between countries.
As someone who always buys bigger GB plans and then ends up not using it all so the extra GB expires, the non-expiring validity Roamless has is a big bonus for me.
The Black Friday promo is pretty simple (new users only) - Load $20, get total of $40 in credit:
1. $1.25 free for registering (this is standard)
2. Black Friday special: $10 bonus credit for putting in a referral code before you load money for the 1st time (must load minimum $10) - normally this is a $3 bonus. This DOES stack with the below coupon.
3. Additional $3.75 free for adding a coupon code, such as 5DOLLARS. Their coupons do not stack with other coupons, they do stack with referral though. In all my searching and contacting CS, there is no better coupon than the $3.75 (which they call $5 because of the $1.25 you already get). You don't need to load money to get this.
4. Additional $5 bonus if you load $20+.
So to get maximum benefit, you sign up, put in referral code in the promo code area, then put in 5DOLLARS in the promo code area, and then load $20, and you'll end up with $40 in credit ($20 of which was free).
Alternatively, if you load $0, you'll have $5 total free credit. If you load only $10, you'll have $25 total credit ($15 of which was free).
I'm not sure if putting my referral code directly here is allowed but you can PM me or anyone else in this thread who mentioned they use Roamless and I'm sure we'd all appreciate and send you our codes.
However, I think they shine in either low-medium usage or longer timeframes or a lot of travel between countries.
As someone who always buys bigger GB plans and then ends up not using it all so the extra GB expires, the non-expiring validity Roamless has is a big bonus for me.
The Black Friday promo is pretty simple (new users only) - Load $20, get total of $40 in credit:
1. $1.25 free for registering (this is standard)
2. Black Friday special: $10 bonus credit for putting in a referral code before you load money for the 1st time (must load minimum $10) - normally this is a $3 bonus. This DOES stack with the below coupon.
3. Additional $3.75 free for adding a coupon code, such as 5DOLLARS. Their coupons do not stack with other coupons, they do stack with referral though. In all my searching and contacting CS, there is no better coupon than the $3.75 (which they call $5 because of the $1.25 you already get). You don't need to load money to get this.
4. Additional $5 bonus if you load $20+.
So to get maximum benefit, you sign up, put in referral code in the promo code area, then put in 5DOLLARS in the promo code area, and then load $20, and you'll end up with $40 in credit ($20 of which was free).
Alternatively, if you load $0, you'll have $5 total free credit. If you load only $10, you'll have $25 total credit ($15 of which was free).
I'm not sure if putting my referral code directly here is allowed but you can PM me or anyone else in this thread who mentioned they use Roamless and I'm sure we'd all appreciate and send you our codes.
#1023




Join Date: Sep 2022
Programs: United Mileage Plus
Posts: 1,733
Has anyone bought an eSIM in Australia?
Apparently their carriers do convert physical SIMs to eSIMs and they have a very competitive prepaid market, often giving dozens of gigs for $20 or less.
But that's for physical SIM packs that you can get at their supermarket and other retail chains, where they have weekly sales.
My issue is my iPad Pro and iPhone are both eSIM only so I can't use physical SIM cards any more and if I have to install it in order to activate, I wouldn't be able to do it with either device. Plus even if you are able to activate, it may take some time to switch it to eSIM. The carriers have mobile apps but they're not available on the US iOS App Store, except My Telstra app.
Boost Mobile is an MVNO which runs on the Telstra network and they let you order eSIMs om their site:
https://boost.com.au/pages/prepaid-plans
Presumably they will email you a QR code, not require you to install their app? The other issue is, will that website even take US credit cards.
My trip isn't until the end of January so it would be good to know if anyone has used eSIMs from Australian carriers or MVNOs.
The Airalo and other global eSIM MVNO's simply aren't competitive price-wise for Australia.
Apparently their carriers do convert physical SIMs to eSIMs and they have a very competitive prepaid market, often giving dozens of gigs for $20 or less.
But that's for physical SIM packs that you can get at their supermarket and other retail chains, where they have weekly sales.
My issue is my iPad Pro and iPhone are both eSIM only so I can't use physical SIM cards any more and if I have to install it in order to activate, I wouldn't be able to do it with either device. Plus even if you are able to activate, it may take some time to switch it to eSIM. The carriers have mobile apps but they're not available on the US iOS App Store, except My Telstra app.
Boost Mobile is an MVNO which runs on the Telstra network and they let you order eSIMs om their site:
https://boost.com.au/pages/prepaid-plans
Presumably they will email you a QR code, not require you to install their app? The other issue is, will that website even take US credit cards.
My trip isn't until the end of January so it would be good to know if anyone has used eSIMs from Australian carriers or MVNOs.
The Airalo and other global eSIM MVNO's simply aren't competitive price-wise for Australia.
#1024



Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 3,698
Has anyone bought an eSIM in Australia?
Apparently their carriers do convert physical SIMs to eSIMs and they have a very competitive prepaid market, often giving dozens of gigs for $20 or less.
But that's for physical SIM packs that you can get at their supermarket and other retail chains, where they have weekly sales.
My issue is my iPad Pro and iPhone are both eSIM only so I can't use physical SIM cards any more and if I have to install it in order to activate, I wouldn't be able to do it with either device. Plus even if you are able to activate, it may take some time to switch it to eSIM. The carriers have mobile apps but they're not available on the US iOS App Store, except My Telstra app.
Boost Mobile is an MVNO which runs on the Telstra network and they let you order eSIMs om their site:
https://boost.com.au/pages/prepaid-plans
Presumably they will email you a QR code, not require you to install their app? The other issue is, will that website even take US credit cards.
My trip isn't until the end of January so it would be good to know if anyone has used eSIMs from Australian carriers or MVNOs.
The Airalo and other global eSIM MVNO's simply aren't competitive price-wise for Australia.
Apparently their carriers do convert physical SIMs to eSIMs and they have a very competitive prepaid market, often giving dozens of gigs for $20 or less.
But that's for physical SIM packs that you can get at their supermarket and other retail chains, where they have weekly sales.
My issue is my iPad Pro and iPhone are both eSIM only so I can't use physical SIM cards any more and if I have to install it in order to activate, I wouldn't be able to do it with either device. Plus even if you are able to activate, it may take some time to switch it to eSIM. The carriers have mobile apps but they're not available on the US iOS App Store, except My Telstra app.
Boost Mobile is an MVNO which runs on the Telstra network and they let you order eSIMs om their site:
https://boost.com.au/pages/prepaid-plans
Presumably they will email you a QR code, not require you to install their app? The other issue is, will that website even take US credit cards.
My trip isn't until the end of January so it would be good to know if anyone has used eSIMs from Australian carriers or MVNOs.
The Airalo and other global eSIM MVNO's simply aren't competitive price-wise for Australia.
https://prepaid-data-sim-card.fandom.com/wiki/Australia
generally if their app/website supports Apple pay, then credit card addresses are usually not a problem
see that note about phone compatibility, australia is like att/Verizon whitelisting
"WARNING for overseas devices (especially tourists)"
#1025




Join Date: Sep 2022
Programs: United Mileage Plus
Posts: 1,733
Hmm, interesting but I want to use my iPad and hotspot off that.
They will have a lot of visitors who are using phones purchased overseas which are roaming on Australian networks. Most of them will not buy Australian SIMs.
Fortunately prepaid data is really affordable over there especially on their weekly sales so if it doesn't work, then it wouldn't be a lot of money.
They will have a lot of visitors who are using phones purchased overseas which are roaming on Australian networks. Most of them will not buy Australian SIMs.
Fortunately prepaid data is really affordable over there especially on their weekly sales so if it doesn't work, then it wouldn't be a lot of money.
#1027



Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: DAL
Posts: 2,226
If you have a dual physical sim phone, you can order a 2nd physical sim before or on arrival. I havent owned a dual physical sim phone since 2020.
#1028


Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 724
You might check with your US carrier and see if they have any free or cheap phones available on your plan. In the past 2 years I have received 5 free Android phones from T-Mobile. The latest being a pretty nice Motorola Razr+ 2023. It is a dual sim (Card & esim) foldable that is my current roaming hotspot. It serves several devices at once with hotspot data from my roaming source. That eliminates the need for switching SIM cards to use more than one roaming device. It’s also nice to provide WiFi service for traveling companions who have free WiFi calling on their plans.
#1029




Join Date: May 2018
Location: Colorado (anywhere between DEN DMM BAH)
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Posts: 3,595
I love the idea of travel eSIMs but since almost none of them have phone call capability how does one make a local call abroad for free? Especially if a traveler needs to call airline customer service or even calls hotels or restaurants or just need to make local calls for any other reason.
#1030

Join Date: Apr 2023
Posts: 23
I love the idea of travel eSIMs but since almost none of them have phone call capability how does one make a local call abroad for free? Especially if a traveler needs to call airline customer service or even calls hotels or restaurants or just need to make local calls for any other reason.
But there are other solutions too
#1031




Join Date: May 2018
Location: Colorado (anywhere between DEN DMM BAH)
Programs: United MileagePlus, SkyMiles, AAdvantage, NEXUS
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If you're from the US, I'd say Google Voice. You can use it over data while abroad. It will give you calls and texts to the US for free (airline customer service etc). Calls to other countries (hotels, restaurants, other things local to where you're traveling) are pretty competitive but not free. No international texting though, you'll need Whatsapp or whatever is big in that country.
But there are other solutions too
But there are other solutions too
I thought to ask too after seeing a travel YouTuber who's from Sweden and was calling QR's number on his phone for customer service while he was stranded in Kuwait and really needed to change his flight asap. It's possible he might've called a free US number or maybe called an international number using a competitive rate.
I know there aren't typically a lot of situations where a local number might need to be called but I'd like to know the quickest way to do it just in case.
Forgot to mention I have a Three UK PAYG sim with voice/SMS but I'd like to find an eSim substitute for it. I used to have it on a small cheap phone to use it as a hotspot but I don't want to carry two phones and worry about charging two devices. I saw that Three UK PAYG eSims are available now though I wonder if my own sim of theirs and number can be converted to an eSim whenever I visit the UK again and visit a store. That's been a good service I've used for 5 years now in Europe with free data roaming in EU countries and even free local calls. The data packs are also so much cheaper than services such as Airalo.
Last edited by Nayef; Dec 7, 2024 at 12:40 am Reason: more info
#1032


Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 724
I love the idea of travel eSIMs but since almost none of them have phone call capability how does one make a local call abroad for free? Especially if a traveler needs to call airline customer service or even calls hotels or restaurants or just need to make local calls for any other reason.
For my current needs, I see Roamless as a great option for data in some locations such as Europe, Australia, and other popular spots. Additionally, it has value as a voice option for low rates and no credit expiration.
#1033




Join Date: May 2018
Location: Colorado (anywhere between DEN DMM BAH)
Programs: United MileagePlus, SkyMiles, AAdvantage, NEXUS
Posts: 3,595
I am still testing Roamless on my current trip. It has voice service available at different rates depending upon the country called. As an example, calling Kuwait is $.06 Mobile, $.07 landline a minute. I am in Costa Rica now and the pricing is $.03-$.10 a minute. Data rates however are huge for Roamless in both countries at $14.45 per Gb! Compare this to $2.45 per Gb in Europe for example. They also have promotions that can lower this price substantially. My cost per Gb for Europe is currently at $1.14 due to coupon offers.
For my current needs, I see Roamless as a great option for data in some locations such as Europe, Australia, and other popular spots. Additionally, it has value as a voice option for low rates and no credit expiration.
For my current needs, I see Roamless as a great option for data in some locations such as Europe, Australia, and other popular spots. Additionally, it has value as a voice option for low rates and no credit expiration.
#1034




Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: SJC
Programs: AA, AS, Marriott
Posts: 6,961
Yeah, I use a Three UK SIM around the EU and other supported Go Roam countries and supplement with an eSIM or Solis/Skyroam elsewhere. The only reason I keep it active (but don't go way out of my way to do so) is that I'm on a legacy prepaid PAYG plan. My understanding is that the terms are less favorable to roaming post-Brexit on Three UK prepaid PAYG service.
#1035




Join Date: May 2018
Location: Colorado (anywhere between DEN DMM BAH)
Programs: United MileagePlus, SkyMiles, AAdvantage, NEXUS
Posts: 3,595
Yeah, I use a Three UK SIM around the EU and other supported Go Roam countries and supplement with an eSIM or Solis/Skyroam elsewhere. The only reason I keep it active (but don't go way out of my way to do so) is that I'm on a legacy prepaid PAYG plan. My understanding is that the terms are less favorable to roaming post-Brexit on Three UK prepaid PAYG service.


