Best noise cancelling headphones for flying?
#106
Join Date: Oct 2018
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Today I discovered an interesting real-world detail while flying with my QC35's.
By and large they're amazing and I love them, today I found their limitations.
I was flying on a Bitten-Norman Islander, which (for those less familiar) is a twin piston engine STOL 9 seater. Most run two-blade props, this one did.
Turns out on take off and under certain load conditions, the noise cancelling on the QC35's really can't cope, and throws more pulsing noise into your ears than it cancels.
I'm guessing it is due to the low frequency pulses coming off the propellors. I should note that I was sitting just behind and beside the props, I don't know if there would be a different outcome if I was in the rear of the cabin.
Anyway, for those of you who, like me, fly to very small airports on very small planes, I'd be interested to know if you've had similar experience.
By and large they're amazing and I love them, today I found their limitations.
I was flying on a Bitten-Norman Islander, which (for those less familiar) is a twin piston engine STOL 9 seater. Most run two-blade props, this one did.
Turns out on take off and under certain load conditions, the noise cancelling on the QC35's really can't cope, and throws more pulsing noise into your ears than it cancels.
I'm guessing it is due to the low frequency pulses coming off the propellors. I should note that I was sitting just behind and beside the props, I don't know if there would be a different outcome if I was in the rear of the cabin.
Anyway, for those of you who, like me, fly to very small airports on very small planes, I'd be interested to know if you've had similar experience.
#107
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By the way, if anyone was turned off by their high price ($399) Bowers & Wilkins currently has their PX headphones on sale in the US for only $299. I love mine and have been extremely happy with the choice. They are a quality oriented company and it shows in the materials used in the PX model!
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#109
Join Date: Nov 2018
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I think the best is Sony wh-1000xm3 on ear, in ear is Sony wf-1000xm3, check them out on youtube, i have also Bose 35, but Sony a lot better, i think... just got the Sony in ear noise cancelling, and you just need a bluetooth adapter then you can see in flight movies wireless
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#110
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I have the Sony WH-1000XM3 currently but thought the ANC on airplanes wasn't as good as the Bose QC35's.
So I stumbled upon these 2 noise isolation/attenuation graphs (I also saw a review on Youtube mentioning something similar as well).
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It is my understanding that the frequency range of the "sound" while flying is somewhere below the 100Hz (what range approximately?).
Can anyone confirm these graphs are accurate?
Is the ANC on the Bose QC II really better on airplanes?
So I stumbled upon these 2 noise isolation/attenuation graphs (I also saw a review on Youtube mentioning something similar as well).
![](https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.flyertalk.com-vbulletin/1703x1123/bose_qc_35_ii_isolation_relative_82350713c2b004ce44fb99eb590a333ad500a5e8.jpg)
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It is my understanding that the frequency range of the "sound" while flying is somewhere below the 100Hz (what range approximately?).
Can anyone confirm these graphs are accurate?
Is the ANC on the Bose QC II really better on airplanes?
At higher frequencies the difference is even larger all the way to 10kHz
#111
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#114
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I got a noise cancelling modmic attachment for mine that works and sounds great, but it is a janky setup and takes up some room in my bag that it shouldn't.
#115
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If apple can somehow get NC into the form factor of the AirPods AND keep battery life as good, they will have a solid win in this category. I’m still testing the sony’s And do like the in ear ability and NC for things like on the metro, L, in aircraft, etc.
#117
Join Date: Nov 2018
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Yes the box are bigger, but remember they last for 6 hours with NC and 8 hours without, also you have around 24 hours use before you have to charge it, i have airpods as well, BUT Sony a lot better and remember Sony have NC and its great, dont compare to Airpods, Sony works great with Iphone and the Sony app is very good, i got Sony WH1000xm3 as well, but i dont like running around in airport with them, Sony WF 1000xm3 is nice when travel
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#119
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I heard the battery life from actual use is much less than what Sony claims, more like around 5 hours.
That's still good but I guess there are other products which deliver more.
Most of the time I don't think I would have used ANC.
So I decided to save myself a chunk of money and get some no-name, which has better reviews on Amazon. So far the battery life is very impressive.
That's still good but I guess there are other products which deliver more.
Most of the time I don't think I would have used ANC.
So I decided to save myself a chunk of money and get some no-name, which has better reviews on Amazon. So far the battery life is very impressive.
#120
Join Date: Nov 2018
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I want NC, i travel a lot, NC its so nice on plane and in train, well i use NC most of the time, mine last close to 6 hours with NC on, lets see in about 2 years from now, my airpods last 2-3 hours after 2 years, not good at all