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Oct 17, 2012 | 9:03 pm

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Ok, sorry I'll stop after this - I also found this from the Windows 8 Compatibility website - it shows the 7D as a compatible device in Windows 8.

http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windo...4&Locale=en-US

Oct 17, 2012 | 9:31 pm

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I don't see the problem - a camera could certainly be certified for WinRT - in fact it probably is.

It could be or maybe it would not be.

I didn't say there would be a problem.

I said there could be a problem.

I'm fairly certain my exact wording was

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So devices may or may not work.

I certainly would not be buying it in hopes the stuff I want to connect to it will just work when Microsoft is issuing a warning that things possibly won't work. I would personally wait to be sure before spending the money.

Oct 18, 2012 | 4:03 am

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Microsoft: Surface display superior to iPad display

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Steven Bathiche, director of research in the Applied Sciences group, said the Surface is superior because Microsoft's ClearType display technology maximizes the "perceived resolution" of its display. He noted that "doing a side by side with the new iPad in a consistently lit room, we have had many people see more detail on Surface RT than on the iPad with more resolution."

http://www.tuaw.com/2012/10/17/micro...-ipad-display/

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Oct 18, 2012 | 4:43 am

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Why a joke? Are there any 32GB 10" tablets I don't know of at that price range? I'm pleasantly surprised at the price.

20gb tablet. 12gb for the OS and Office

http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comment...dsu8?context=2

Are they planning to release a 3/4G one?

Oct 18, 2012 | 9:10 am

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Are they planning to release a 3/4G one?

No. It has a USB port, so whenever RT-compatible dongles or modems come out, you could attach one, but nothing native.

Overall, Microsoft has to have a credible response to this question: "Why wouldn't I just buy an iPad?"

I can't run Outlook? Why wouldn't I just buy an iPad?
I can't run any third-party apps right out of the box? Why wouldn't I just buy an iPad?
No cellular connectivity built in? Why wouldn't I just buy an iPad?
It's the same price as an iPad? Why wouldn't I just buy an iPad?
I can't join it to a domain or manage it with my existing IT tools? Why wouldn't I just buy my users iPads if I have to build a new management structure anyway?
etc...

Oct 18, 2012 | 12:59 pm

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Last time I checked the iPad doesn't allow me to seamlessly move between the tablet and the PC or even OSX.

Oct 18, 2012 | 1:38 pm

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It's the $110 magnetic keyboard, you can't get that on an Ipad so you have to buy the surface.

Oct 18, 2012 | 7:23 pm

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I'm quite frankly stunned that they aren't offering a native 4g version.

Oct 19, 2012 | 8:16 am

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Last time I checked the iPad doesn't allow me to seamlessly move between the tablet and the PC or even OSX.

How seamlessly will you be able to move when your Surface RT won't run Outlook or any of your desktop apps? I wouldn't call that "seamless." It might be more possible than it was before in a Windows-centric environment, but it certainly ain't seamless.

Oct 19, 2012 | 8:17 am

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I'm quite frankly stunned that they aren't offering a native 4g version.

Especially when you consider some of the improvements made to Windows 8 that specifically deal with monitoring cell-based connections (for data metering, among other things).

Oct 19, 2012 | 8:21 am

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Who would even consider buying one of these without being able to see and use one beforehand? I'm thrilled to see what could be solid competition in this space, but this thing is really an unknown quantity at best right now...

Oct 19, 2012 | 8:22 am

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Maybe they feel that because others are announcing 4g ones they didn't feel there was a need for them to be in the market too?

Kidding of course, it's just plain stupid not to have theirs not be able to do anything without WiFi.

Oct 19, 2012 | 8:38 am

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Not everyone wants another cellular device or data plan, I certainly don't. I convert my cellphone to wifi hotspot and connect my Playbook to it and use the data that comes with my phone.

Oct 19, 2012 | 8:45 am

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Anyone saw the Surface commercial? I thought I was watching an Old Navy commercial.

What are they thinking?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=8mSckyoAMHg

Oct 19, 2012 | 8:53 am

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Not everyone wants another cellular device or data plan, I certainly don't. I convert my cellphone to wifi hotspot and connect my Playbook to it and use the data that comes with my phone.

While that's certainly true, that's why you offer it as an option to people. Those who want just WiFi just buy the WiFi version. Those who want 3G or 4G buy the 3G or 4G version.

No, wait, in this case they will have to buy another companies product.

The vast majority of tablets (like 90%) are sold without 3G and 4G in them, but at least others are offering options for people who want it. For Microsoft to think they will take over the market with an expensive device, where a good portion of the memory is already in use, with limited expansion capabilities, and no alternative but WiFi is just plain silly.

No wait, they do have that snazzy magnetic keyboard though, that will save it.

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