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BinSabai Feb 13, 2022 2:36 am


Originally Posted by petter2 (Post 33987300)
Rejected for the second time even though it hasn't even been 30 hours.. This is turning into a full time job.. Seems like Conrad Bangkok didn't book the PCR test

Conrad did not confirm your reservation in the TP system within 30 hours? Strange that such a high end hotel makes such mistakes!
Did you tell them after you submitted your application?

Davvidd Feb 13, 2022 4:43 am

BinSabai, can I get points on my stay in a Novotel in the test and go day One stay?

BinSabai Feb 13, 2022 6:09 am


Originally Posted by Davvidd (Post 33987461)
BinSabai, can I get points on my stay in a Novotel in the test and go day One stay?

Accor hotels are very inconsistent regarding credit points and nights for quarantine, test & go and sandbox; please note that there are more than half a dozen of Novotels alone in Bangkok.
The one at the airport credits points, some other not. You would have to ask yours...it is even negotiable...

NWplatinum Feb 13, 2022 6:16 am


Originally Posted by BinSabai (Post 33986870)
zone?
it seemed all to be cramped between door 9 and 10...better just ask around and they will tell you where to find the agent of your hotel

I was told by my hotel to go to counter 4 in the arrivals hall. Then I went up to them and they had my name and hotel in a folder. They then called a taxi and she had to take a picture of me getting into the taxi lol

Granite64 Feb 13, 2022 6:36 am


Originally Posted by LIH Prem (Post 33987129)
Recommended several times here that you reserve and purchase T&G rez directly with the hotel and not through any third party web site.

That said, use whatever sites you want to research prices.

-David

I did some research and I don't see a massive difference in price when using the asq.in.th website, most of them are around 8500/9000 THB for two nights.

goodeats21 Feb 13, 2022 9:13 am


Originally Posted by NWplatinum (Post 33987590)
I was told by my hotel to go to counter 4 in the arrivals hall. Then I went up to them and they had my name and hotel in a folder. They then called a taxi and she had to take a picture of me getting into the taxi lol

I just made my reservation, and was advised to look for their representative at door 5.

I have noticed several times getting my photo taken as I entered taxi, arrived hotel, etc.
Never knew I was so photogenic. Haha.

Guess "proof" that a certain part of their job is being completed and / or COVID rules are being carried out.

Davvidd Feb 13, 2022 9:21 am


Originally Posted by BinSabai (Post 33987583)
Accor hotels are very inconsistent regarding credit points and nights for quarantine, test & go and sandbox; please note that there are more than half a dozen of Novotels alone in Bangkok.
The one at the airport credits points, some other not. You would have to ask yours...it is even negotiable...

I have not even got a reply from the one on Sukhumvit 20. I will try when I get there.

restlessinRNO Feb 13, 2022 9:33 am


Originally Posted by BinSabai (Post 33987583)
Accor hotels are very inconsistent regarding credit points and nights for quarantine, test & go and sandbox; please note that there are more than half a dozen of Novotels alone in Bangkok.
The one at the airport credits points, some other not. You would have to ask yours...it is even negotiable...

Yes, the Novotel Suvarnabhumi credited me night and points for a Test & Go stay. 😊

goodeats21 Feb 13, 2022 8:39 pm

Just a data point:

Applied for Thai Pass today (Sunday) at 9AM (East Coast time, USA). Approval and Thai Pass received via email 12 hours later.
Travel is in ~2 weeks.

Easy.

Granite64 Feb 13, 2022 11:54 pm

Question, if I travel to BKK on AUG 13 and arrive on AUG 14 at 0830 AM then what is considered as my 5th day? Will it be august 19th?

BinSabai Feb 14, 2022 2:05 am


Originally Posted by Granite64 (Post 33989587)
Question, if I travel to BKK on AUG 13 and arrive on AUG 14 at 0830 AM then what is considered as my 5th day? Will it be august 19th?

18. will be your 5. day

HumbleBee Feb 14, 2022 6:40 pm

I tested positive after landing in BKK yesterday under the Test & Go scheme. I've managed to stay in my original hotel last night pending a second test (no symptoms).

My understanding is that at this point my only options are isolation at a hospital or hospital-affiliated 'hospitel'.

So far, I've seen the Midtown hotel under Bangkok hospital, or Thai Sun & Maduzi under BNH.

Is there any 5 star hotel? Ideally one with balconies in the room...

BinSabai Feb 14, 2022 7:51 pm


Originally Posted by HumbleBee (Post 33992318)
I tested positive after landing in BKK yesterday under the Test & Go scheme. I've managed to stay in my original hotel last night pending a second test (no symptoms).

My understanding is that at this point my only options are isolation at a hospital or hospital-affiliated 'hospitel'.

So far, I've seen the Midtown hotel under Bangkok hospital, or Thai Sun & Maduzi under BNH.

Is there any 5 star hotel? Ideally one with balconies in the room...

my heartiest condolence!
there is a list of hospitels, few are 5 stars
List of Hospitels for COVID-19 Patients in Thailand (pacificprime.co.th)
but I am not sure, whether there is a free choice or you depend on the mercy of the partner hospital of your test & go hotel...

please share your experience with us!

BinSabai Feb 14, 2022 7:57 pm

here another list
Hospitels in Thailand: Hotels for COVID-19 Patients | THAIest
I guess at least Pullman Grande (the one at Sukhumvit, not the one at Silom) and Anantara Riverside qualify as 5 star; the latter has balconies as far as I know

HumbleBee Feb 14, 2022 8:57 pm


Originally Posted by BinSabai (Post 33992466)
here another list
Hospitels in Thailand: Hotels for COVID-19 Patients | THAIest
I guess at least Pullman Grande (the one at Sukhumvit, not the one at Silom) and Anantara Riverside qualify as 5 star; the latter has balconies as far as I know

Thank you. Thankfully, I'm feeling OK.

I've called both the Anantara hotel and their sponsor hospital (Bumrungrand) and they don't accept positive patients anymore. A pity, because they have beautiful riverside balconies....

The Pullman doesn't seem all that great - leaning towards the Ambassador hotel where I have a connection and will get personal attention...

It seems that Pacific Prime link is outdated - I've called a bunch of hotels on it and they all said they no longer do it. The American embassy was no help either.

I tested positive yesterday morning, but bc I'm asymptomatic, I've gotten an extension to stay in my original hotel room and was taken in a special van to do another test in a hospital. I am told the results will be ready in 4-6 hours, and if it comes back positive prior to 4pm I will have to go to hotel/hospitel today, but after 4pm I can go tomorrow as the restaurant will already be closed for tonight and I can't be expected to stay hungry...

goodeats21 Feb 15, 2022 3:40 am


Originally Posted by HumbleBee (Post 33992318)
I tested positive after landing in BKK yesterday under the Test & Go scheme. I've managed to stay in my original hotel last night pending a second test (no symptoms).

My understanding is that at this point my only options are isolation at a hospital or hospital-affiliated 'hospitel'.

So far, I've seen the Midtown hotel under Bangkok hospital, or Thai Sun & Maduzi under BNH.

Is there any 5 star hotel? Ideally one with balconies in the room...

Sorry to hear this for you. I went thru it last year. Not fun, but hopefully you can make the most of it.

Interesting they are allowing a confirmation test now, and apparently some flexibility now in how to proceed. For me, was no choice, just straight to hotel for a 10 day stint. Do keep us all updated on how things proceed.

HumbleBee Feb 15, 2022 3:46 am


Originally Posted by goodeats21 (Post 33993118)
Sorry to hear this for you. I went thru it last year. Not fun, but hopefully you can make the most of it.

Interesting they are allowing a confirmation test now, and apparently some flexibility now in how to proceed. For me, was no choice, just straight to hotel for a 10 day stint. Do keep us all updated on how things proceed.

Just came back positive again, but late enough that I should be safe in my original hotel for tonight. Will try getting a 3rd test...

Granite64 Feb 15, 2022 9:29 am


Originally Posted by HumbleBee (Post 33993126)
Just came back positive again, but late enough that I should be safe in my original hotel for tonight. Will try getting a 3rd test...

Sorry to hear that HumbleBee, I hope you get well soon! What's next? You have to go to a hospital? Or can you stay in a hotel, and if so do you have to pay that yourself?

NWplatinum Feb 16, 2022 6:03 am

Sorry to hear about the positive test. As a result of the costs incurred, does the AXA insurance cover everything?

Davvidd Feb 16, 2022 6:33 am


Originally Posted by HumbleBee (Post 33993126)
Just came back positive again, but late enough that I should be safe in my original hotel for tonight. Will try getting a 3rd test...

Sorry to hear that. I guess you would have got it somewhere in between your flight? I keep testing almost every week as I have a trip next week and I already tested positive middle of last month and now got two negative tests and hope I do not get positive again next week.

HumbleBee Feb 16, 2022 7:35 am

I've luckily managed to convince them to let me stay in the original hotel for a 3rd confirmatory test, and scheduled it on Friday afternoon - so results would be late enough that they couldn't ask me to go to hospital/hospitel until Saturday, and I feel rather confident I will manage to extend it further. I got the impression hospitels are pretty full.

The ultimate authority appears to be the doctor at the private hospital that was contracted by the hotel to do the day 1 & day 5 tests. Every process was a broken telephone of hotel calling a nurse who called the doctor, which had the excellent benefit of postponing any unfavorable decision. Everybody has been super nice and helpful along the way, and it does seem they are doing their best to bend the protocols only that much, while maintaining a firm grip on me isolating in my room and not presenting any symptoms or risk factors.



Originally Posted by NWplatinum (Post 33996435)
Sorry to hear about the positive test. As a result of the costs incurred, does the AXA insurance cover everything?

It seems they would cover it if I isolate at a hotel, but hospitel is gray area and I've gotten different answers whether it would be covered - at least in part. The costs are 100-200k THB (depending on the room type) for the 4 star hospitels for 10 days, assuming no medical care would be needed other than standard screening and painkillers.

Each extra confirmatory test cost 5000 THB, (2k each way for special car to hospital & 1k for test). I'll submit it for reimbursement later but doubt they'll cover it.

HumbleBee Feb 16, 2022 7:47 am


Originally Posted by Davvidd (Post 33996498)
Sorry to hear that. I guess you would have got it somewhere in between your flight? I keep testing almost every week as I have a trip next week and I already tested positive middle of last month and now got two negative tests and hope I do not get positive again next week.

It could've been incubating already before I took off and still didn't show up on the pre-departure test.

Not sure about Thailand, but there are jurisdictions like the USA & Singapore than don't require testing at all for people with documented prior covid infection, for this reason.

One thing to keep in mind is that the Thai Day 1 test pushed the swab quite far up my nose and down my throat, and that might trigger a positive result - you may want to make sure you get a through swabbing to see if that is also negative.

NWplatinum Feb 16, 2022 10:03 am

Just curious, how do you eat, get things, and just live day to day? Do you have absolutely zero contact with people? Does the hotel staff just bring you up meals that are ordered? I’ve always wondered what would happen if I took a trip far away and tested positive.

Davvidd Feb 16, 2022 12:10 pm


Originally Posted by HumbleBee (Post 33996689)
It could've been incubating already before I took off and still didn't show up on the pre-departure test.

Not sure about Thailand, but there are jurisdictions like the USA & Singapore than don't require testing at all for people with documented prior covid infection, for this reason.

One thing to keep in mind is that the Thai Day 1 test pushed the swab quite far up my nose and down my throat, and that might trigger a positive result - you may want to make sure you get a through swabbing to see if that is also negative.

That is interesting as all my tests done in Thailand was up my nose.

Granite64 Feb 16, 2022 12:29 pm


Originally Posted by NWplatinum (Post 33997131)
Just curious, how do you eat, get things, and just live day to day? Do you have absolutely zero contact with people? Does the hotel staff just bring you up meals that are ordered? I’ve always wondered what would happen if I took a trip far away and tested positive.

If he has a nice hotel.. then maybe he could order food or groceries on Lineman/FoodPanda and that the hotel staff delivers it at his room.

HumbleBee Feb 16, 2022 6:18 pm

Yes I am in a nice 5-star hotel that has been super accommodating, with the duty manager calling me periodically to check in on me and offering to help in any way possible.

I've been seamlessly ordering food from FoodPanda and the hotel is super prompt about delivering it to the room.

The concierge ran an errand for me with a 200THB messenger fee....

BinSabai Feb 16, 2022 6:42 pm


Originally Posted by Davvidd (Post 33997533)
That is interesting as all my tests done in Thailand was up my nose.

mine were always nose AND throat...and I have done quite a few with 3 entries during the last 10 months....

SKT-DK Feb 16, 2022 7:00 pm


Originally Posted by BinSabai (Post 33998593)
mine were always nose AND throat...and I have done quite a few with 3 entries during the last 10 months....

My Test & Go was also both nose and mouth, but interestingly the ones taken in-country for outbound travel purposes have only been nose.

petter2 Feb 18, 2022 4:29 am

My Thailand pass was first approved and I got the QR code, but 2 days later I got an email that it was rejected because the second hotel did not respond.. When scanned it says Valid and Rejected. Do they scan the QR code at Qatar check-in? Applied again and now it's confirmed, but I'm worried it will go to rejected again a day before I travel

SKT-DK Feb 18, 2022 4:39 am


Originally Posted by petter2 (Post 34002556)
My Thailand pass was first approved and I got the QR code, but 2 days later I got an email that it was rejected because the second hotel did not respond.. When scanned it says Valid and Rejected. Do they scan the QR code at Qatar check-in? Applied again and now it's confirmed, but I'm worried it will go to rejected again a day before I travel

I would think the airline would scan it to validate eligibility to travel as otherwise they would have to carry the cost of deporting you upon arrival.

Granite64 Feb 18, 2022 6:34 am

'Thailand will consider a recommendation from an airline tycoon to reduce the steps required for international entry, by doing away the second COVID-19 test, currently required on the fifth day after arrival.'

https://www.thaipbsworld.com/thailan...onal-arrivals/

BinSabai Feb 18, 2022 6:53 am


Originally Posted by Granite64 (Post 34002799)
'Thailand will consider a recommendation from an airline tycoon to reduce the steps required for international entry, by doing away the second COVID-19 test, currently required on the fifth day after arrival.'

https://www.thaipbsworld.com/thailan...onal-arrivals/

not so optimistic as the figures are rising...

hithesh123 Feb 18, 2022 7:11 am

Thai pass question: Do you have to land on the date you mention in Thai pass or can you land at a later date?

Granite64 Feb 18, 2022 7:37 am


Originally Posted by hithesh123 (Post 34002895)
Thai pass question: Do you have to land on the date you mention in Thai pass or can you land at a later date?


From the Thailand Pass FAQ section : https://consular.mfa.go.th/th/conten...nd-pass-faqs-2

Q: Can I change my travel itinerary once I have registered and received my QR code? Will my QR Code remain valid?

A:

'- Yes. However, flight changes are permitted within 72 hours after the original flight time registered in the Thailand Pass without the need to apply for a new Thailand Pass QR Code, provided that all other required documents remain valid.
- For itinerary changes greater than 72 hours, you will have to edit your Thailand Pass application by accessing your application through the Thailand Pass portal using your access code. Please note that your edited application will be subjected to and undergo the review process cycle all over again'

BinSabai Feb 18, 2022 8:42 am


Originally Posted by Granite64 (Post 34002971)
From the Thailand Pass FAQ section : https://consular.mfa.go.th/th/conten...nd-pass-faqs-2

Q: Can I change my travel itinerary once I have registered and received my QR code? Will my QR Code remain valid?

A:

'- Yes. However, flight changes are permitted within 72 hours after the original flight time registered in the Thailand Pass without the need to apply for a new Thailand Pass QR Code, provided that all other required documents remain valid.
- For itinerary changes greater than 72 hours, you will have to edit your Thailand Pass application by accessing your application through the Thailand Pass portal using your access code. Please note that your edited application will be subjected to and undergo the review process cycle all over again'

correct, but in reality you can land 3 calendar days later than your original arrival date, as the Thailand Pass is not issued based on arrival hour but arrival date...so it could be even a bit more than 72 hours...

Granite64 Feb 18, 2022 12:00 pm


Originally Posted by BinSabai (Post 34002839)
not so optimistic as the figures are rising...

Money talks.. 😬

NWplatinum Feb 18, 2022 3:05 pm


Originally Posted by SKT-DK (Post 33998629)
My Test & Go was also both nose and mouth, but interestingly the ones taken in-country for outbound travel purposes have only been nose.

That was my experience as well. They also insist on REALLY shoving the swab deep up your nose to the point where it hurts. I asked both nurses who administered the test to please try and not go so deep. Here in the states they just rub it in each nostril for 20 seconds

thbe Feb 19, 2022 1:38 am

On February 23 the CCSA will decide about easing the entry requirements to Thailand. It’s possible that the day 5 test will be replaced by an ATK test. Maybe that ATK test can be done by the traveller himself without supervision. A second hotel booking would not be neccessary anymore. That change could be made quite fast, i.e. from March 1.

It’s very likely that there will be more changes coming up. I think, that it will be much, much easier to travel to Thailand after April 1 (my personal estimation, could be sooner),

goodeats21 Feb 19, 2022 5:44 am


Originally Posted by thbe (Post 34005339)
On February 23 the CCSA will decide about easing the entry requirements to Thailand. It’s possible that the day 5 test will be replaced by an ATK test. Maybe that ATK test can be done by the traveller himself without supervision. A second hotel booking would not be neccessary anymore. That change could be made quite fast, i.e. from March 1.

It’s very likely that there will be more changes coming up. I think, that it will be much, much easier to travel to Thailand after April 1 (my personal estimation, could be sooner),

I was thinking the same, but unfortunately I need to arrive right at the end of February. Wish I could have delayed a bit.
Fingers crossed for negative tests :D

HumbleBee Feb 19, 2022 5:50 am


Originally Posted by petter2 (Post 34002556)
My Thailand pass was first approved and I got the QR code, but 2 days later I got an email that it was rejected because the second hotel did not respond.. When scanned it says Valid and Rejected. Do they scan the QR code at Qatar check-in? Applied again and now it's confirmed, but I'm worried it will go to rejected again a day before I travel

I flew AF JFK-CDG-BKK & nobody scanned my barcode until I arrived in Bangkok.

I do think there is considerable risk BKK immigration will send you back when it doesn't scan though.


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