Voting Ended - Motion Passed: Renaming Car Rental Programs/Partners & adding forum
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I'm inclined to vote no for many of the reasons given in this thread. IMO the motion isn't well thought out in terms of either its scope (Uber-like services only or include other close substitutes?) or where such forum should be located on FT. If location-specific information continues to reside, as I believe it should, in the destination fora, I'm not convinced that a general Uber forum will have sufficient traffic--especially if people can't find it intuitively.
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If that was the case I wish you would have said something during the last month when we were crafting the motion. We kept waiting for more input and it would have been very nice to have heard your suggestions then.
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Many crimes are "here to stay" . does the fact that crimes are going to occur therefore make it ok to support?
Surely that the forum , if created, would be actively supporting and encouraging the breach of FT's own TOS makes it not something that should exist regardless. Has it been approved to change the TOS to allow the support and encouragement of criminal activity ( and driving passengers without insurance is a crime in several countries at least ) ?
I would say that the creation of any forum to cover such topics should surely be deferred until such time that it is operating legally
Surely that the forum , if created, would be actively supporting and encouraging the breach of FT's own TOS makes it not something that should exist regardless. Has it been approved to change the TOS to allow the support and encouragement of criminal activity ( and driving passengers without insurance is a crime in several countries at least ) ?
I would say that the creation of any forum to cover such topics should surely be deferred until such time that it is operating legally
...but there are two things to keep in mind:
- I have already posted that I knew little about services offered by such entities as Uber and Lyft; and that I have never used those services
- This issue of illegal activity was not brought to my attention until you posted in this discussion
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I did question what the scope should be: national car services such as Carey, SuperShuttle, rental car companies where you get a car and driver, etc. I don't recall the early discussion being very specific about where the proposed forum would be placed in FT. I still don't see anything in the motion about what is to be done with existing threads about Uber in destination fora such as China.
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To add grist to the mill, when traveling I sometimes use private driver services such as those offered by Wayan Suetayasa in Bali, of http://www.hiddenbali.com, Filippo Biasini of http://www.rome-tours.org in Rome, both private, licensed individuals / sole proprietorships.
In London, I've used "minicab" services from companies. In New Zealand, the driving services provided by Lode and Sandi Notredame of http://www.amazingnz.com.
Where would these fit in?
In London, I've used "minicab" services from companies. In New Zealand, the driving services provided by Lode and Sandi Notredame of http://www.amazingnz.com.
Where would these fit in?
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I voted yes, and here is why:
There are so many apps, tips, and tricks for transport out there that it's just not convenient to place these in the destination forums. For instance, there is a app which I found out by mistake (not on FT where it should be) called taxify. It's a uber-like app which works in 11 cities (10 in Europe, one in South Africa). I used the app to get around Vilnius, and instead of haggling everywhere, dealing with weird meters, the app allowed me to grab a cab without any issues and I had a choice of paying by car or by card.
Another app that I used in Vilnius is etaksi which works across Lithuania and I can select which cab companies I want to use. It's similar to taxify but it's mainly cash based. In Poland, there are some android apps like zlap-taxi which allows you to pick a city and it lists all the cab companies, their numbers, and rates. Some apps go across countries like Uber. Having this info in one location I think is easier then digging thru the destination forums (which doesn't seem to have this info to begin with).
There are so many apps, tips, and tricks for transport out there that it's just not convenient to place these in the destination forums. For instance, there is a app which I found out by mistake (not on FT where it should be) called taxify. It's a uber-like app which works in 11 cities (10 in Europe, one in South Africa). I used the app to get around Vilnius, and instead of haggling everywhere, dealing with weird meters, the app allowed me to grab a cab without any issues and I had a choice of paying by car or by card.
Another app that I used in Vilnius is etaksi which works across Lithuania and I can select which cab companies I want to use. It's similar to taxify but it's mainly cash based. In Poland, there are some android apps like zlap-taxi which allows you to pick a city and it lists all the cab companies, their numbers, and rates. Some apps go across countries like Uber. Having this info in one location I think is easier then digging thru the destination forums (which doesn't seem to have this info to begin with).
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I voted yes, and here is why:
There are so many apps, tips, and tricks for transport out there that it's just not convenient to place these in the destination forums. For instance, there is a app which I found out by mistake (not on FT where it should be) called taxify. It's a uber-like app which works in 11 cities (10 in Europe, one in South Africa). I used the app to get around Vilnius, and instead of haggling everywhere, dealing with weird meters, the app allowed me to grab a cab without any issues and I had a choice of paying by car or by card.
Another app that I used in Vilnius is etaksi which works across Lithuania and I can select which cab companies I want to use. It's similar to taxify but it's mainly cash based. In Poland, there are some android apps like zlap-taxi which allows you to pick a city and it lists all the cab companies, their numbers, and rates. Some apps go across countries like Uber. Having this info in one location I think is easier then digging thru the destination forums (which doesn't seem to have this info to begin with).
There are so many apps, tips, and tricks for transport out there that it's just not convenient to place these in the destination forums. For instance, there is a app which I found out by mistake (not on FT where it should be) called taxify. It's a uber-like app which works in 11 cities (10 in Europe, one in South Africa). I used the app to get around Vilnius, and instead of haggling everywhere, dealing with weird meters, the app allowed me to grab a cab without any issues and I had a choice of paying by car or by card.
Another app that I used in Vilnius is etaksi which works across Lithuania and I can select which cab companies I want to use. It's similar to taxify but it's mainly cash based. In Poland, there are some android apps like zlap-taxi which allows you to pick a city and it lists all the cab companies, their numbers, and rates. Some apps go across countries like Uber. Having this info in one location I think is easier then digging thru the destination forums (which doesn't seem to have this info to begin with).
Also, given that threads regarding specific cities are kicked out of DiningBuzz, surely it is illogical to create another forum devoted to a general subject which sucks in threads related to specific cities.
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Also, it can be confusing knowing which forum to go to for a city such as Omaha.
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That is definitely a good point, I must admit that I focus on the European destination forums which tend towards high traffic levels. But, as I said above, adding information to a destination forum will helpfully help it attract traffic.
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Shouldn't TalkBoard be considering how to drive traffic to more lightly used forums, especially if they aren't going to do their annual usage review and consider closing any forums?
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Admin Question: Was there a site wide announcement of this vote?
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If we focused on utilizing the Destinations forums properly, it might drive more traffic there. UBER postings in the destination forums can be one way of helping the process. We should find ways to utilize the current structure (if it can work) before worrying about new forums.
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I recall seeing senior moderator Prospero post a site-wide announcement presumably on CD's behalf.
Completely agree and always favor trying to use existing forums rather than created ever more.
If we focused on utilizing the Destinations forums properly, it might drive more traffic there. UBER postings in the destination forums can be one way of helping the process. We should find ways to utilize the current structure (if it can work) before worrying about new forums.
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