Motion Passed - Posts Count in All FT Forums
Jan 6, 2012 | 8:09 am
#76
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Jan 6, 2012 | 8:10 am
#77
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I was bound by a 48 hour rule (between being raised by a TB member and a proposal being made) -- the topic was raised almost 2 days ago and as soon as the 48 hours are up, I'll make the proposal.
Jan 6, 2012 | 8:12 am
#78
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If it's not retroactive, which I understand is impossible, then I really oppose the motion. The post counts are corrupted already, given that folks got credit for their OMNI posts way-back-when, and then there was a period where they didn't count, and now a motion has been proposed that would change the rules yet again. What's the point? We'd be better off without post counts today. They are incredibly meaningless, particularly given the way they've been addressed/counted over the years.
Jan 6, 2012 | 8:18 am
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I guess I don't look at post count the same way as others do. I don't think a huge post count automatically means that persons posts are trusted more or more likely to be correct than others or more likely to be an opinion I would agree with. Quality of posts, to me, is a much more important gauge and there's really no way to accurately measure that here. I think it was tried before and didn't work out.
Jan 6, 2012 | 8:20 am
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I didn't know the answer to this, but I did do some research earlier today (vBulletin administration stuff is easy to search) and the only way to "rebuild" post counts for old posts (or to eliminate them from old posts) is to essentially have vBulletin sweep through the massive database to rebuild the post count. That's not a viable option, IMO. Many people would lose post count as very old threads that ended up corrupted or no longer in place would fall from post counts.
Jan 6, 2012 | 8:22 am
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I agree with the few prior posters who ask why count ANY posts at all? Other than perhaps the first 180 (or whatever it takes to get into CC) why are post counts even listed? Who cares? Do you award some kind of prizes for the most? Drop post counts entirely, then you will never have to deal (over and over and over) with this trivia any more.
Jan 6, 2012 | 8:25 am
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I do see some usefulness in seeing both the length of time a poster has been a member, and the number of posts they have contributed to the community. Granted, the number doesn't tell us anything about the quality of their posts, but it does convey some information about how active they are in this community. I have no problem with removing the titles that are currently linked to post counts, since it seems like they may contribute more to the motivation for posting games.
Last edited by dchristiva; Jan 6, 2012 at 8:41 am
Jan 6, 2012 | 8:32 am
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changing it again is not necessarily ridiculous (ignoring million post count issue for the moment)
but it would become ridiculous if this is something that starts changing every few TB elections
unlike basically everything else, post count is a permanent thing
but it would become ridiculous if this is something that starts changing every few TB elections
unlike basically everything else, post count is a permanent thing
Jan 6, 2012 | 8:46 am
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Back on topic.
Jan 6, 2012 | 9:23 am
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moved
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Jan 6, 2012 | 9:29 am
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With all the talk about OMNI posts not counting and lounge thread posts counting (and etc), I'm wondering how much trouble/work it would be for IB to move all lounge threads from all their respective forums to a lounge forum (with no entry requirement) with all of the various lounge threads from all forums listed as subs and have posts in the lounge forums not count and then allow posts to count in CC. This way, you have all non-travel related threads posts not counting and only travel related posts counting.
I do favor all posts counting but like I said, just trying to muddy the aich2oh
I do favor all posts counting but like I said, just trying to muddy the aich2oh
Jan 6, 2012 | 9:50 am
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With all the talk about OMNI posts not counting and lounge thread posts counting (and etc), I'm wondering how much trouble/work it would be for IB to move all lounge threads from all their respective forums to a lounge forum (with no entry requirement) with all of the various lounge threads from all forums listed as subs and have posts in the lounge forums not count and then allow posts to count in CC. This way, you have all non-travel related threads posts not counting and only travel related posts counting.
I do favor all posts counting but like I said, just trying to muddy the aich2oh
I do favor all posts counting but like I said, just trying to muddy the aich2oh
Jan 6, 2012 | 9:52 am
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Deleted. Reading is fundamental, Rich. 
Actually, thanks to lo2e for letting me know that he edited his post between my reading and hitting reply and when I saw it again. I'm *not* going crazy after all! Well, I don't think so, anyway.
Actually, thanks to lo2e for letting me know that he edited his post between my reading and hitting reply and when I saw it again. I'm *not* going crazy after all! Well, I don't think so, anyway.
Last edited by RichMSN; Jan 6, 2012 at 10:22 am
Jan 6, 2012 | 10:22 am
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I know the current software allows one to hide or ignore certain users of your choosing. Is there something similar to hide or ignore certian threads?
If one of the concerns is that OMNI will now have threads that you don't want to see at the top of the list, then ignoring or hiding them from your view should solve that problem.
Doing this probably wouldn't take up too much of anyone's time and it still allows those who want to play games or inflate their post count to do so without bothering you in the process. And it wouldn't require the need of another forum.
If one of the concerns is that OMNI will now have threads that you don't want to see at the top of the list, then ignoring or hiding them from your view should solve that problem.
Doing this probably wouldn't take up too much of anyone's time and it still allows those who want to play games or inflate their post count to do so without bothering you in the process. And it wouldn't require the need of another forum.