Lack

It's not. Swiss is satisfied with the compensations it's getting from LH. It's apparently not satisfied by the compensation it's getting from tickets sold by United, so it's taking the only logical step - taking it out on the passenger.

You know you can buy all sorts tickets for all sorts of routes that UA doesn't fly and/or code share on UA.com?

daumueller

is there even another *A carrier that has F with LX flight numbers into/out of ZRH?

San Gottardo

Thai?

miamiflyer8

Air China IIRC.

daumueller

to the best of my knowledge, Air China doesn't fly into ZRH and TG certainly has no F to ZRH (anymore).

miamiflyer8

According to Wiki and Google they certainly do fly to ZRH from PEK.

EDIT: While Air China flies to ZRH, they do not operate an F cabin there,

daumueller

ha, they started this year. interesting.

LHR/MEL/Europe FF

There seems to be a whole lot of confusion on what this thread is really about... people say they were refused entry flying Swiss F, but as you point out, they're actually flying UA F, on a UA ticket, which happens to be operated by Swiss.

I don't recall there being an instance of someone refused entry on an LX flight number (not code share) which might have been issued by UA.

They are not Swiss F paying customers.

Award flights aren't issued with code-shares, hence the reason, I guess, why there has never been a problem with lounge access. You have paid for a ticket on LX F, regardless of the ticket stock.

Lack

"happens to be"? Do you think an LX captain wakes up one day and decides he'll fly United passengers on an LX plane just for kicks?

Check a couple pages up thread.

So who lets them on board?

klausa

Can't wait for this thread to re-litigate issue of who gets paid what on code-share tickets for like sixth time.

Don't forget to mention the TATL JV somewhere in there and how that plays into it

IAN-UK

I think you are missing the point by a country mile. We are used to the concept of <the metal rules> under which if a flight is operated by Lufthansa then the passenger is treated as a Lufthansa passenger and gets unfettered access to Lufthansa facilities. It's a simple concept. And it prevents the notion of second-class first-class spoiling the day for any passengers in the eight seat cabin.

As Swiss is firmly under Lufthansa's wing, the thought was that in something so basic it would follow big brother's lead. It doesn't.

(And of course the OneWorld alliances follows the logical Lufthansa lead. Cross the Atlantic on a BA flight and you'll get into the Concorde lounge even if your ticket was issued by AA).

The odd acceptance that there should be discrimination based on issuing carrier within a joint venture leads me to ask where it should end. If airport services are subject to discrimination, why not on board services: perhaps champagne is limited only to those travelling on Swiss issued tickets. Who knows, business-class meals could be brought forward for those on United first-class paper

LHR/MEL/Europe FF

The policy is well established. If pax want the LX F lounge they buy an LX flight number, not a UA codeshare.

As to the hyperbole in the latter part of your post, anyone coming across this thread should take it is simply as that, hyperbole. There has never been any evidence that on-board service or amenity is reduced or removed for UA pax.

mrow

If it is accepted that onboard service should be the same regardless of flight number, why is it acceptable for ground services to differ based on flight number booked?

LHR/MEL/Europe FF

Price? There are several examples where on-board service is consistent but ground services differ. An example is limousine transfers... some airlines only provide complimentary cars on higher fares and lowest fares are ineligible. You might also earn different mileage based on the fare paid. Or have restricted access to choose seats based on a sub-class of the cabin.

Lack

Would you be so kind and point to a LX published policy?

Seems that the only thing well established here is your misconception about the UA codeshare being the deal breaker.