Discussion of Princeville Villas timeshare offers
#181
Join Date: Jun 2005
Programs: Starwood Gold, Starwood Owner - Maui and Scottsdale
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Originally Posted by grgs
One correction to Denise's information: Westin Mission Hills is NOT a mandatory resort, but Vistana Villages in Orlando is one. See:
http://www.tug2.net/advice/Starwood_...on_Network.htm
http://www.tug2.net/advice/Starwood_...on_Network.htm
#182
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: ORD (formerly SAN)
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Originally Posted by AtomicLush
Is it just me or are the "reservation specialists" just completely incompetent? I have tried to book about a dozen dates from now to late January and they are all "available" with 1 or 2 open spots, but then I give them my credit card, it mysteriously becomes "full" and "unbookable" and I need to choose a new date. ...??? I have spent HOURS on the phone between two reps and I haven't found a single day that's good with them. I don't want to leave my deposit and never be able to book a stay, so they better not charge my card. The worst part is that I can't even talk to a new agent because I'm in their database and they transfer me over to the same agents each time. AURGH!
#183
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Toronto
Programs: SPG LT Plat, Hilton G,Priorty Club G, AC E
Posts: 2,979
Can someone explain the proceedure for the SVO presentation...
...once you arrive at the property. Princeville in January 2006...what should we expect regarding the presentation? Time? Proceedures? Are they pushy? etc etc etc...any help much appreciated
#184
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 7
how long to book?
Thanks to a very nice FTer, I just got the invite for one of the offers. This may sound crazy, but I want to schedule around 1/1/07. Right now they're only taking reservations through Aug 06. Any experiences on waiting several months before using the invite?
Thanks
Thanks
#185
Join Date: Jun 2005
Programs: Starwood Gold, Starwood Owner - Maui and Scottsdale
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Originally Posted by HomerJ
...once you arrive at the property. Princeville in January 2006...what should we expect regarding the presentation? Time? Proceedures? Are they pushy? etc etc etc...any help much appreciated
The presentations are usually 1-on-1 with a sales Rep. in a small office and are supposed to be 90 min. long. If you want to be sure you get out on time, "schedule" some kind of an activity 30 min. later so you have a good "excuse" to leave after 90 min.
However, unless your Pkg. info. says in WRITING that you MUST attend a sales presentation, then it isn't required. If not required, they will probably offer you a $100 GC for attending.
#186
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: ORD (formerly SAN)
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Originally Posted by HomerJ
...once you arrive at the property. Princeville in January 2006...what should we expect regarding the presentation? Time? Proceedures? Are they pushy? etc etc etc...any help much appreciated
#187
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Originally Posted by jpevnick
Thanks to a very nice FTer, I just got the invite for one of the offers. This may sound crazy, but I want to schedule around 1/1/07. Right now they're only taking reservations through Aug 06. Any experiences on waiting several months before using the invite?
Thanks
Thanks
I think you have 18 months to actually use it, but a limited time to put down a deposit. We put down something like $300 and then waited a few months to work out vacations, flights, etc., and booked then. I think the invite, at least the one I received, states how long the invite is for and I think I remember it only being for a few weeks.
#188
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 284
Originally Posted by DeniseM
Starwood tends to have low-pressure sales, but it really depends on the sales Rep. The first sales pitch we went to was very low-key and we didn't feel pressured at all. A year after we purchased, we went to an "owners update" while visiting our resort, and it was very high-pressure and the guy was a jerk - he made it clear to us that we were wasting his time.
The presentations are usually 1-on-1 with a sales Rep. in a small office and are supposed to be 90 min. long. If you want to be sure you get out on time, "schedule" some kind of an activity 30 min. later so you have a good "excuse" to leave after 90 min.
However, unless your Pkg. info. says in WRITING that you MUST attend a sales presentation, then it isn't required. If not required, they will probably offer you a $100 GC for attending.
The presentations are usually 1-on-1 with a sales Rep. in a small office and are supposed to be 90 min. long. If you want to be sure you get out on time, "schedule" some kind of an activity 30 min. later so you have a good "excuse" to leave after 90 min.
However, unless your Pkg. info. says in WRITING that you MUST attend a sales presentation, then it isn't required. If not required, they will probably offer you a $100 GC for attending.
What is an owners update? We own at Kierland and if they aren't prepared to offer any more trips to say Kauai, then we really have nothing to talk about.
#189
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: SFO
Programs: United 1k SPG Platinum Marriott lifetime Titanium
Posts: 69
[QUOTE=HomerJ]...once you arrive at the property. Princeville in January 2006...what should we expect regarding the presentation? Time? Proceedures? Are they pushy? etc etc etc...any help much appreciated
Hi, just got back from using the offer at Princeville. Once you arrive and check in at the front desk and head to your room within 10 to 15 minutes you will receive a call from the vacation desk stating that they have a gift for you that you should come by to pick it up. The timeshare that they are trying to sell now is for the Maui resort. When my husband and I were there the salesman would speak to you and find out what your vacationing habits were and try and figure out how much it could save you in the long run. Then right after that his boss comes in to close the deal. They were pretty pushy when my husband and I were there. They pretty much tried to pormise us the world. Stating that we will be receiving a GOLD Starwood Card that read Owner on it. That it will open more doors for us when we would check in at the hotels that are not their timeshare. The project is not going to be complete until the mid of 2008 but they would like you to statt paying for it immediately. They will also show you the most expensive that they have to offer and if that didn't interest you then they would finally offer you the 1 week timeshares. Hopefully that helps you to be prepared.
Hi, just got back from using the offer at Princeville. Once you arrive and check in at the front desk and head to your room within 10 to 15 minutes you will receive a call from the vacation desk stating that they have a gift for you that you should come by to pick it up. The timeshare that they are trying to sell now is for the Maui resort. When my husband and I were there the salesman would speak to you and find out what your vacationing habits were and try and figure out how much it could save you in the long run. Then right after that his boss comes in to close the deal. They were pretty pushy when my husband and I were there. They pretty much tried to pormise us the world. Stating that we will be receiving a GOLD Starwood Card that read Owner on it. That it will open more doors for us when we would check in at the hotels that are not their timeshare. The project is not going to be complete until the mid of 2008 but they would like you to statt paying for it immediately. They will also show you the most expensive that they have to offer and if that didn't interest you then they would finally offer you the 1 week timeshares. Hopefully that helps you to be prepared.
#190
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Oakland, CA, USA
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Originally Posted by jocelynt
They will also show you the most expensive that they have to offer and if that didn't interest you then they would finally offer you the 1 week timeshares.
#191
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: SMF
Programs: Bonvoy Titanium, SPG LTP
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PM me if you want the offer...
Just got back from taking advantage of this Princeville offer (that I received thanks to a fellow FTer--thanks!). The offer was a great deal as we ended up spending ~$100/night when the lowest available rate on SPG.com was only $425/night! When we checked in with the vacation desk to get our gift certificate, they offered us another $100 or 10,000 pts. to attend the sales presentation for Kaanapali North. We jumped at the points. We'd attended the presentation twice before (once in Maui) and had never been even remotely interested in buying. The sales guy must have been pretty darn good, because we went from 0% chance of buying to actually buying.
Now, I can refer people for the offer too. I think I have about 5 or 6 spots on my referral sheet open so I'll refer anyone who's interested on a first come, first served basis. If you want the offer, PM me your name, address, and phone number and I'll fax it in in a few days.
Now, I can refer people for the offer too. I think I have about 5 or 6 spots on my referral sheet open so I'll refer anyone who's interested on a first come, first served basis. If you want the offer, PM me your name, address, and phone number and I'll fax it in in a few days.
#192
Join Date: Jun 2005
Programs: Starwood Gold, Starwood Owner - Maui and Scottsdale
Posts: 123
Originally Posted by Da5id
What is an owners update? We own at Kierland and if they aren't prepared to offer any more trips to say Kauai, then we really have nothing to talk about.
#193
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Toronto
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Thanx to all for your input...
...I will post a visit report and how the presntation went after our January '06 visit.
Cheers Homer>
Cheers Homer>
#194
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 62
Got called last week for the offer at the Sheraton Maui. Asked her about the Princeville and she emailed me 2 options - Sheraton Maui (749 for 5 nights) and Sheraton Kauai (598 for 5 nights). I guess the Princeville offer is over or perhaps I am not eligible fore it. I now need to call back, thinking of going in Mid-February. A couple of questions for you all before I call back:
- Which hotel is nicer - the Sheraton Maui or Kauai?
- The fine print on the email invite say's "Holiday and special event periods are excluded." Have any of you had difficulty booking specific dates? Mid-Feb is around spring break so I am wondering if that will block me.
- Do you think spending the cash on this offer is better than using 50k points for 5 nights (I was planning on doing this before I got the call).
- I would actually like to tack on a night or 2 to my stay. Can I do this using points?
Thanks!
- Which hotel is nicer - the Sheraton Maui or Kauai?
- The fine print on the email invite say's "Holiday and special event periods are excluded." Have any of you had difficulty booking specific dates? Mid-Feb is around spring break so I am wondering if that will block me.
- Do you think spending the cash on this offer is better than using 50k points for 5 nights (I was planning on doing this before I got the call).
- I would actually like to tack on a night or 2 to my stay. Can I do this using points?
Thanks!
Last edited by jakemtl; Oct 30, 2005 at 5:21 pm
#195
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: New York, NY
Posts: 544
jakemtl:
Yes, I believe the Princeville offer is over since many probably booked this and they have a fixed number of rooms reserved for this promo. I wasn't able to get this offer either.
I would say that the offer is great if you do want to stay at one of the 2 hotels still offered. I prefer to use my starpoints and stay at the Princeville. I never stayed at the Sheraton Kauai but did visit it. I can only say that the Princeville is a true luxury collection hotel and the Sheraton Kauai looked pretty standard.
I've stayed at the Marriott several times in Kaanapani where the Sheraton Maui is located and I believe all of the chain hotels (Westin, Sheraton, Hyatt and Marriott) located back to back to back are all pretty nice with excellent pools and a great location.
My understanding is that the offer also comes with a $180 Avis voucher and a $100 hotel credit (you can ask if they might offer the 10,000 starpoints instead of the hotel credit). A car is essential in Maui and Kauai so this voucher would lower the cost of the offer. I would prefer the 10,000 starpoints and this would be worth about $200 - $300 depending on how you used it so is this a good offer? I sure think so. Good luck on your decision.
Yes, I believe the Princeville offer is over since many probably booked this and they have a fixed number of rooms reserved for this promo. I wasn't able to get this offer either.
I would say that the offer is great if you do want to stay at one of the 2 hotels still offered. I prefer to use my starpoints and stay at the Princeville. I never stayed at the Sheraton Kauai but did visit it. I can only say that the Princeville is a true luxury collection hotel and the Sheraton Kauai looked pretty standard.
I've stayed at the Marriott several times in Kaanapani where the Sheraton Maui is located and I believe all of the chain hotels (Westin, Sheraton, Hyatt and Marriott) located back to back to back are all pretty nice with excellent pools and a great location.
My understanding is that the offer also comes with a $180 Avis voucher and a $100 hotel credit (you can ask if they might offer the 10,000 starpoints instead of the hotel credit). A car is essential in Maui and Kauai so this voucher would lower the cost of the offer. I would prefer the 10,000 starpoints and this would be worth about $200 - $300 depending on how you used it so is this a good offer? I sure think so. Good luck on your decision.