Official Announcement: SPG and Marriott Programs to Merge on August 18th
#151
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They have definitely said before (many times, in official statements on the program merger) that you have until Dec 31 to earn lifetime Plat Premier in the new program under the legacy (Marriott or SPG) lifetime rules for earning legacy lifetime Platinum.
And StarwoodLurker has said multiple times that we can qualify for 2018 SPG Plat through 25 stays at Starwood brands through Dec 31.
So just because someone says things works different for Ambassador status (which is all that the email you got seemed to address), why should that mean that no other legacy status can be earned post Aug 18?
#152
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The response does say that, but it contradicts everything that has been published, as well as William's clarification that followed. There's enough confusion without CSR's sowing additional disinformation.
#153
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Interesting article about how point collectors view the SPG/Marriott merger:
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/featu...am-to-the-test
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/featu...am-to-the-test
SPGers, as Starwood’s most loyal travelers call themselves—
And if you're "terrified" over FF program perks, you need to step back and re-assess, IMHO.
#154
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: DFW from PDX - UA 1K 2MM,Lifetime HHonnors Diamond, Bonvoy AMB/LT Tit, National Exec Elite, Hertz PC
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I posted this either yesterday or the day before:
Does that help?
Best regards,
William R. Sanders
Social Media Specialist
Marriott International
[email protected]
Does that help?
Best regards,
William R. Sanders
Social Media Specialist
Marriott International
[email protected]
#155
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Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: South Florida
Programs: AA LTG (EXP), Hilton Silver (Dia), Marriott LTP (PP), SPG LTG (P) > MPG LTPP
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Im still trying to clarify, but I think from that it sounds like its not possible to earn status under the legacy program rules after Aug 18, even if you dont merge accounts, which is whats being discussed here. Seems strange to add the $20k requirement mid-year, since theres been no method to track the expenditure until now. Im sure theyre crazy busy figuring it all out, but I would love if a Lurker were able to chime in. Only 17 days left to earn...
Im still trying to clarify, but I think from that it sounds like its not possible to earn status under the legacy program rules after Aug 18, even if you dont merge accounts, which is whats being discussed here. Seems strange to add the $20k requirement mid-year, since theres been no method to track the expenditure until now. Im sure theyre crazy busy figuring it all out, but I would love if a Lurker were able to chime in. Only 17 days left to earn...
For me personally, I am holding off merging my accounts until I get confirmation that 494 SPG LT nights and 740 MR LT nights will put me into MPG LTPP status or if I need to make a run past LTP in one or the other.
#156
Company Representative - Starwood
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Best regards,
William R. Sanders
Social Media Specialist
Marriott International
[email protected]
#157
Join Date: Nov 2000
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Not sure that I understand the link between the two being an issue. If you combine accounts, what would prevent you from completing the 100 elite qualifying nights just at Starwood legacy properties to satisfy the SPG legacy requirements?
Best regards,
William R. Sanders
Social Media Specialist
Marriott International
[email protected]
Best regards,
William R. Sanders
Social Media Specialist
Marriott International
[email protected]
#158
Join Date: Feb 2018
Location: Southern California
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Yes, I am told if you earned SPG Gold this way, it will translate into Gold in the new program and it will be valid through February 29, 2020.
Best regards,
William R. Sanders
Social Media Specialist
Marriott International
[email protected]
Best regards,
William R. Sanders
Social Media Specialist
Marriott International
[email protected]
Apologies in advance, as I am just a lowly SPG Preferred Plus. If I understand previous posts correctly, it would be possible until the end of this calendar year to achieve Gold with stays...and that would then translate into Marriott Gold for 2019? I have 4 stays left to 10 and though I'm kicking myself for not trying harder for Lifetime Gold (I stopped at 3.5 years when the merger was initially announced), I am still considering going for Gold rather than settling for automatic Silver with Amex personal CC.
#159
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 147
Hi Lurker -- any detail yet you can share on premium room redemptions? I read your statement that rate adjustments will be possible to existing reservations. So that was great to hear. However, with SPG, premium rooms were minimal cost so a no brainer. 10k total extra points over 5 nights for a grand deluxe in Aspen is well worth it over a base room. However, if I can't adjust the premium booking because the room category doesn't exist with points (or the new rates for it are outrageous), a grand deluxe room is not worth 50k extra points. So I find myself with duplicate bookings over the coming months (one in a premium room and one in a base room). All bookings are for category 7 (but not villa properties) if it makes a difference on explanation--St Regis Aspen, St Regis Punta Mita, St Regis Bal Harbour, Gritti Palace, and Prince de Galles. I certainly don't want to hold duplicate reservations so would like to clean up my bookings as soon there is clarity. Thanks!
#160
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Christina Zhou
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Starwood Hotels & Resorts Worldwide
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#161
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: BDU
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Not sure that I understand the link between the two being an issue. If you combine accounts, what would prevent you from completing the 100 elite qualifying nights just at Starwood legacy properties to satisfy the SPG legacy requirements?
Best regards,
William R. Sanders
Social Media Specialist
Marriott International
[email protected]
Best regards,
William R. Sanders
Social Media Specialist
Marriott International
[email protected]
#162
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Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: South Florida
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Apologies in advance, as I am just a lowly SPG Preferred Plus. If I understand previous posts correctly, it would be possible until the end of this calendar year to achieve Gold with stays...and that would then translate into Marriott Gold for 2019? I have 4 stays left to 10 and though I'm kicking myself for not trying harder for Lifetime Gold (I stopped at 3.5 years when the merger was initially announced), I am still considering going for Gold rather than settling for automatic Silver with Amex personal CC.
#163
Join Date: Mar 2012
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Not sure that I understand the link between the two being an issue. If you combine accounts, what would prevent you from completing the 100 elite qualifying nights just at Starwood legacy properties to satisfy the SPG legacy requirements?
Best regards,
William R. Sanders
Social Media Specialist
Marriott International
[email protected]
Best regards,
William R. Sanders
Social Media Specialist
Marriott International
[email protected]
so i have 10 years spg platinum plus 5 years marriott platinum and have a combined total nights of 800. and This year I have 110 nights combined
So i will get lifetime platinum premiere plus will get ambassador for next year correct?
#164
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As to whether you will get ambassador for next year, what is your breakdown of your 110 nights this year. Did you have at least 100 with SPG?
#165
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I just got a disappointing response from my Ambassador concerning lowered point redemption after Aug 18. Quote from email: "The only way to take advantage of the point savings is to book your stay at Starwood Hotels after the new redemption rates are in place. I am not able to refund points on an existing reservation; I am sorry."
I hope she is wrong.
I hope she is wrong.