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Hotel Name:
Arrival Date:
Departure Date:
Number of Rooms:
Number of Guests:
Room Type:
Starwood Brand Web Site Room Rate:
Competing Rate:
Competing Web Site:

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FAQ

What is the Best Rate Guarantee (BRG)?

If a lower rate at an SPG Hotel is made available on a non-SPG website or non-SPG mobile application, upon its receipt of a claim that satisfies these Best Rate Guarantee terms and conditions, SPG will honor that Competing Rate and provide the individual that submitted the valid claim one of the following rewards: (1) an additional 25% discount off the Competing Rate (20% for Design Hotels) per room per night (up to a maximum of three rooms); or (2) 2,000 Starwood Preferred Guest® Starpoints® per room per stay (up to a maximum of three rooms).

What should I do if my claim is successful?
  • Re-confirm your rate at check-in; normally the hotel will have the correct BRG rate in your reservation, but sometimes you will need to remind them.
  • If you choose points, they will be credited after the stay; check in one week to see if they have posted. If they have not posted, then contacted the BRG team to get it posted.
Are SPG benefits honored for BRG stays?

Yes. You should receive the same SPG elite member benefits and stay/night credit as for a normal paid stay.

How do I view my reservation after my BRG has been approved?
  • Log into your SPG account.
  • Click on your stays to view your current reservation.
  • Click on "Set Stay Preferences" link for the BRG reservation, then SAVE.
  • Refresh your stays page and the reservation should be visible again. You may need to repeat this step if the hotel touches your reservation. If you apply for Your24, you will not be able to view the reservation details.
How do I add a Suite Night Award (SNA) to a my BRG reservation?
  • Follow the steps as outlined under: How do I view my reservation after my BRG has been approved?
  • At the end of this process, you should be able to select "Apply SNA to this Stay" from within your stays page.
GUIDELINES FOR A SUCCESSFUL CLAIM

• You cannot BRG against a rate on a Starwood Website/App (hot escapes, promos, Gov. Rate etc.). It has to be a 3rd party website/App.

• The rate you submit the BRG against must be a rate that is available to the general public
• Cancellation/Deposit Policies and amenities must match on both websites to be valid

A valid Starwood website reservation is required to submit a BRG

• If a room category is available on an external website but not on Starwood, you may still make a claim. You still need to make a booking with Starwood using the next lowest category of room and must include the cancel/deposit polices and amenities you are wanting- if your claim is approved the room type in the booking will remain what is booked.


• Only one claim may be submitted per reservation number (If your first claim is denied, you may submit a new claim for that reservation if you find another lower rate after you receive the denial email)

• You must book and submit a claim for the room type, cancel policy, deposit policy and amenities you are comparing. If you a flexible rate on SPG.com, they will look for a flexible rate when processing your claim, even if a lower rate for non-cancellable is available.
• You cannot BRG with a flexible rate against a prepaid rate. All information must be the same on both websites and the claim will be denied.

• If your comparable rate includes extras like breakfast or parking, make sure there is a room available on spg.com that includes the exact amenities. If there is no room available with the same amenities, it will be denied.

• Room types must be the same for a BRG.

• If you are booking and comparing rates for a non-refundable booking, note that you are responsible for any and all charges including cancellation charges, even if the claim is not approved

• If you have an approved and finalized claim and you find an even cheaper rate later, then you may submit a new BRG claim that is not connected to any existing reservation. If this BRG claim is approved, you will need to make a new reservation on SPG.com. Once the process is completed, you will then email the BRG desk to cancel your first reservation, if it is within the cancellation deadline.

• The cancel policy of an approved claim will be the same as what was booked and approved. It will no longer default to flexible.

• If you find availability for the room type you want on a third party website/app but there is no availability for that room type on the Starwood Website, then this may be an approved claim if it meets all other terms and conditions. You will need to make sure that you specify the room type you actually want on the Starwood Website section and enter 0 in the rate and currency. This will ensure that the processing associates know that the room type you want is not available on the Starwood Website. You may also add additional comments near the end of the claim form indicating that there is no availability on the Starwood Website for that room type to help clarify.

• If you find availability on a third party website/app but there is no availability on the Starwood Website, then this claim cannot be submitted as you must have a valid reservation to submit a claim. If it is submitted somehow without a reservation, the claim will not be processed as a valid Starwood reservation is required.

• Per the FAQ, "Any questions regarding claims should be directed to [email protected] or call 1-866-500-0368." A human is available at this number beginning at 9am EST.

OTAs not eligible because they do not confirm instantly:
  • AsiaWeb
  • BestDay
  • Cancelon
  • Ctrip (Known as MyTrip from Dec 2017)
  • Elvoline
  • HappyRooms
  • Hoteling
  • Hotelreservierung.de (according to BRG team 5 Sept 2017)
  • HotelsClick (Some rates on request, some instant)
  • Ostrovok
  • Roomertravel
  • Laterooms (according to BRG team 24 Oct 2016)
  • Hotelius (according to BRG team 21 Sept 2017)
  • Zenhotels (according to BRG team 10 Nov 2017)
  • Travelbag (according to BRG team 22 Dec 2017)


Special Conditions for BRG & Design Hotels
  • You may only claim against the absolute lowest rate on SPG.com, for the date(s) in question.
  • The rate must be the lowest on sale on SPG.com, and is regardless of the type of room you actually want, the number of occupants, cancellation policy and the amenities provided. In all likelihood this will mean you have to use a rate for a standard room, for 1 person, non-refundable and without any amenities.
  • It is not necessary for the rate on the external website to match the SPG.com rate in any way including room type and number of occupants. The only requirement for a successful BRG claim is that the rate be lower than the lowest rate on SPG.com for the date(s) in question.
  • As with normal BRG claims, you need to make a booking before submitting a claim but it must be the lowest rate for the hotel and dates. Since this will likely be a non-refundable booking, note that you are responsible for any and all charges including cancellation charges, even if the claim is not approved.
  • Amenities are not included in the comparasin
  • You will retain the category of room booked on SPG.com, even if the external website rate submitted for the claim refers to a different category of room. This is especially pertinent in situations where the hotel continues to sell lower categories of rooms on other websites, while not making them available on SPG.com. You will then be able to book a higher category of room on SPG.com, BRG the lower rate, and retain the higher category of room while paying the lower rate.
  • If you need to BRG Design Hotels for Double or higher occupancy.
    • The BRG will be processed for a single occupant, even if the rate does not change for more than one occupant. You must book the actual number of occupants intended. Effectively, you can only BRG for single occupant unless double rate happens to be the same as single. It is not possible to BRG if double rate is higher than single. No modification to occupancy is allowed if BRG is approved. If you submit with single rate, you will be stuck with single room; if you submit with double rate and single rate is lower, it will be automatically denied irrespective of competing rates.

Differing currencies

Marriott may deny claims where the difference between the comparison rate and the Marriott rate is less than $1. Rate disparities primarily attributable to fluctuations and/or differences in currency exchange rates are excluded from the guarantee.

Link to T&C
https://www.starwoodhotels.com/bestrate/terms.html
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Old Jul 1, 2018, 2:56 am
  #871  
 
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Now it could just be coincidence but I feel some hotels are realising they can tale advantage of these new rules!

It seems on spg.com the no refundable rates are increasing and above what you can find elsewhere quite easily but the cancellation rates are set to just beat the OTA's! I have seen this at a few properties now and ones I am familiar with the rates they usually offer!

It might just be coincidence but seems like they are realising people are much less likely to risk a prepaid rate BRG now and it is hugely frustrating that I can now book a hotel 30% cheaper via OTA's than spg.com! Yes I could risk a BRG claim but all it takes is for my booking to be the last room on spg.com and the rate vanishes and I am not able to do a thing about it!
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Old Jul 1, 2018, 5:07 am
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Originally Posted by UKTraveller4Fun
It might just be coincidence but seems like they are realising people are much less likely to risk a prepaid rate BRG now and it is hugely frustrating that I can now book a hotel 30% cheaper via OTA's than spg.com! Yes I could risk a BRG claim but all it takes is for my booking to be the last room on spg.com and the rate vanishes and I am not able to do a thing about it!
I think a much bigger problem than the matching cancellation term requirement is the matching room types requirement. SPG will often have a property's base room designated as "Wonderful," "Classic," "Smart," "Premier," whatever, while competing sites may simply list it as "Standard Room," "1King/Queen," etc. In the past, it was obviously never a problem to get such a claim through, but now it would be denied. I'm currently looking to book a stay where I found 14 competing sites that list rooms at lower rates than SPG, but because of the room type mismatch, the claim would be denied under the new BRG terms. The SPG rate is EUR130, the cheapest competing rate EUR72, and the cheapest acceptable rate (matching room type, similar terms, mainstream site) is EUR124. I happily gave SPG 75-100 nights/year in the past decade, but if they turn the BRG into a scam, at some point it's just silly to drastically overpay.
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Old Jul 2, 2018, 10:29 am
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Originally Posted by joakgarp
I really want to continue to stay loyal to the Starwood brand but if Marriott offers me better terms in a more customer oriented way, why should I be loyal to Starwood?
I'm more confident in Starwood hotels and I've previously felt that Starwood cares a little bit more about the small human being than the big corporate Marriott. But that's about to be gone. I'm okay with that but let me decide and let me have the same terms whatever hotel I choose to stay at.
Don’t you think this is a way for MaRiot to try to distance loyal spg members from their hotels? To possibly book their own hotels? Or in some cases push them to other chains.
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Old Jul 2, 2018, 10:50 am
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Originally Posted by jpdx
I think a much bigger problem than the matching cancellation term requirement is the matching room types requirement. SPG will often have a property's base room designated as "Wonderful," "Classic," "Smart," "Premier," whatever, while competing sites may simply list it as "Standard Room," "1King/Queen," etc. In the past, it was obviously never a problem to get such a claim through, but now it would be denied. I'm currently looking to book a stay where I found 14 competing sites that list rooms at lower rates than SPG, but because of the room type mismatch, the claim would be denied under the new BRG terms. The SPG rate is EUR130, the cheapest competing rate EUR72, and the cheapest acceptable rate (matching room type, similar terms, mainstream site) is EUR124. I happily gave SPG 75-100 nights/year in the past decade, but if they turn the BRG into a scam, at some point it's just silly to drastically overpay.
I have had zero problems getting MR LNF claims approved with "Standard Room," "1King/Queen," type of room description. The same goes for SPG LNF claims.
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Old Jul 2, 2018, 12:49 pm
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Originally Posted by remymartin


Don’t you think this is a way for MaRiot to try to distance loyal spg members from their hotels? To possibly book their own hotels? Or in some cases push them to other chains.
Cannot see why they would wan to do that, Marriott now own the SPG hotels so they are by definition all their hotels! Pretty sure Marriott doesnt want to push business to Hilton etc, I think its more either very badly managed and thought about or a calculated decision by Marriott thinking the losses of bookings will be outweighed by the gains of people risking booking non cancellable rates and then the BRG failing!

Speaking from my perspective I have more non SPG/Marriott stays in the last 6 weeks than I have had in a normal 4 month period so its definatly driven me away and I must admit in some ways its quite liberating! I do hope Marriott didn't buy SPG for its loyal members as I feel it is starting to alienate them!
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Old Jul 2, 2018, 12:54 pm
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Originally Posted by UKTraveller4Fun
Now it could just be coincidence but I feel some hotels are realising they can tale advantage of these new rules!

It seems on spg.com the no refundable rates are increasing and above what you can find elsewhere quite easily but the cancellation rates are set to just beat the OTA's! I have seen this at a few properties now and ones I am familiar with the rates they usually offer!

It might just be coincidence but seems like they are realising people are much less likely to risk a prepaid rate BRG now and it is hugely frustrating that I can now book a hotel 30% cheaper via OTA's than spg.com! Yes I could risk a BRG claim but all it takes is for my booking to be the last room on spg.com and the rate vanishes and I am not able to do a thing about it!
Hopefully the Marriott 24 hour cancellation policy is expanded to SPG in August when it all goes to 1 site/booking system. Same for the BRG team actually replying within 24 hours like the LNF team.
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Old Jul 2, 2018, 6:39 pm
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Originally Posted by margarita girl
I've been watching the BRG disaster unfold and submitted my first requests since May 25, a few days ago. Both were flexible reservations, but both were denied because the OTA required an upfront deposit. Last night I replied to one of the denials and asked that it be escalated to a supervisor. I explained that this was not how Marriott processed their LNF requests. I thought Marriott had done a pretty good job of merging the programs and had been treating us fairly but had really dropped the ball on the BRGs.

Today I got 2 calls from one of the long time BRG agents from St Thomas who I've had the pleasure of speaking with many times in the past. She apologized and explained that this is how they had been instructed to process the BRGs, but would forward my comments to upper mgmt. (They truly are wonderful and competent people which is why I get bent out of shape when posters start slamming them.) She called me back a few hours later and said they had just received an email confirming that they would now be comparing flexible vs flexible rates and would no longer deny BRGs because the OTA requires a deposit and Starwood does not! ^

My BRG was approved.
My Brg was rejected also. I believe this is because the Ota is asking for deposit also although it is fully refundable until 2 days before check in time. I guess I should reply them.
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Old Jul 3, 2018, 11:32 am
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Originally Posted by GalaxyChris
Still no news for my claim, already 1 week

Marriott Seriously ?
Did you get a response in the meantime?
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Old Jul 3, 2018, 3:46 pm
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Originally Posted by X-ON
I have had zero problems getting MR LNF claims approved with "Standard Room," "1King/Queen," type of room description. The same goes for SPG LNF claims.
Same here. My SPG BRG claims last week were approved -- "Standard Room" on spg.com, "Twin Room" on the competing site.
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Old Jul 3, 2018, 10:56 pm
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Hotel Name: Four Points by Sheraton Barcelona Diagonal (3 nights)
Number of Rooms: 1
Number of Guests: 1
Room Type: Classic room with breakfast
Starwood Brand Web Site Room Rate: 156 EUR
Competing Rate: 138 EUR less 25%
Competing Web Site: Amoma

Of note, the Amoma room was described as single/twin with breakfast included, $1 deposit but flexible cancellation up until 7 days.

First rejection (15 hours) not for any of these differences but because the agent could not find the rate.

Called in because I still saw the competing rate. The phone agent said they were in the middle of handling another BRG claim and could not review mine, but said if I replied to the email I would go back into the queue (in the past when calling in the agent has at least reviewed the details of the claim first, but maybe they were unusually busy)

Second rejection 30 minutes later from the same agent who made the first rejection, still saying they could not see the rate.

I replied a second time via email, but having received no response after 6 hours but still barely within 24 hours of the original booking, I submitted a new claim from scratch with the competing rate now at 152 EUR.

This claim was approved after 17.5 hours, and at the 138 EUR rate, which was a pleasant surprise (perhaps it had reappeared in the meantime? Miracles do occur! )
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Old Jul 4, 2018, 3:28 am
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My question is multiple hotel claim in 1 week.
Is it limit 2000 starpoints for 1 hotel and unlimit 25% discount for another hotel ?
IIRC previously it eligible for 2000 points one time/hotel per week and another claim are 25% discount.
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Old Jul 4, 2018, 6:31 am
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One time x 2000 points in 8 day period (7 days from check out so safer to count 8 days) or 25% unlimited (20% for design hotels. No option for both combinations.
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Old Jul 4, 2018, 7:38 am
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Originally Posted by yorkboy24
One time x 2000 points in 8 day period (7 days from check out so safer to count 8 days) or 25% unlimited (20% for design hotels. No option for both combinations.
YMMV. Just don't do the claims at the same time...
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Old Jul 4, 2018, 2:33 pm
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Originally Posted by Zurich35
Did you get a response in the meantime?
yes get it denied as the rates of course disappeared
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Old Jul 4, 2018, 4:53 pm
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Hotel Name: Sheraton Santiago Hotel & Convention Center (2 nights in November)
Number of Rooms: 1
Number of Guests: 2
Room Type: Club Room
Starwood Brand Web Site Room Rate: USD 254
Competing Rate: USD 213
Competing Web Site: Agoda

Took 25% off. Submitted and approved in 2 hours 57 minutes by India team

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