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What is the Best Rate Guarantee (BRG ?)
If a lower rate at a Starwood Hotel is made available on a non-Starwood website or non-Starwood mobile application, upon its receipt of a claim that satisfies these Best Rate Guarantee terms and conditions, Starwood will honor that Competing Rate and provide the individual that submitted the valid claim one of the following rewards: (1) an additional 20% discount off the Competing Rate per room per night (up to a maximum of three rooms); or (2) 2,000 Starwood Preferred Guest® Starpoints® per room per stay (up to a maximum of three rooms).

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• You cannot BRG against a rate on a Starwood Website/App (hot escapes, promos, Gov. Rate etc.). It has to be a 3rd party website/App.
• The rate you submit the BRG against must be a rate that is available to the general public. SPG will deny member only rates from 3rd party websites.
• Cancellation policy has no bearing on a BRG claim with one exception if the rate difference is within 1%.
"Starwood may deny claims where the difference between the Competing Rate and the rate on the Starwood Website is less than one percent; provided that Starwood will not use the fact that the difference between the Competing Rate and the rate on the Starwood Website is less than one percent to deny such claims if the cancellation policy for the Competing Rate is more favorable to the guest than the cancellation policy for the rate on the Starwood Website."
A valid Starwood website reservation is required to submit a BRG
• If a room category is available on an external website but not on Starwood, you may still make a claim. You still need to make a booking with Starwood using any other category of room - if your claim is approved the room type in the booking will be modified to match the room type you are claiming for
• Only one claim may be submitted per reservation number (If your first claim is denied, you may submit a new claim for that reservation if you find another lower rate after you receive the denial email)

• Make sure to book a flexible rate on SPG.com. This will allow you to then cancel this booking if you find a lower Starwood rate later (like the hot escapes etc.) or if your travel plans change.
• You can BRG with a flexible rate against a prepaid rate. In other words, if expedia is offering a room for $100 prepaid, and spg.com shows a prepaid room for $150 or a flexible room for $200, you can book the FLEXIBLE spg.com rate and BRG it against the PREPAID $100 expedia rate. And you will receive the flexible cancel terms if the BRG is approved. There are a few exceptions where properties impose stricter cancellation term based on competing rates.
• If your comparable rate includes extras like breakfast or parking, make sure there is a room available on spg.com that includes the exact amenities. If there is the same room type with the same amenities on SPG.com, they will compare and if lower on third party, the claim may be approved for the room type and with the amenities. If there is the same room type available but no/different amenities offered, the claim may still be approved, but the rate will be room only.
• Room types must be the same for a BRG.
• If you have an approved and finalized claim and you find an even cheaper rate later, then you may submit a new BRG claim that is not connected to any existing reservation. If this BRG claim is approved, you will need to make a new flexible reservation on SPG.com. Once the process is completed, you will then email the BRG desk to cancel your first reservation, if it is within the cancellation deadline.
• If you find availability for the room type you want on a third party website/app but there is no availability for that room type or no availability for any room type on the Starwood Website, then this may be an approved claim if it meets all other terms and conditions. You will need to make sure that you specify the room type you actually want on the Starwood Website section and enter 0 in the rate and currency. This will ensure that the processing associates know that the room type you want is not available on the Starwood Website. You may also add additional comments near the end of the claim form indicating that there is no availability on the Starwood Website to help clarify.
• Per the FAQ, "Any questions regarding claims should be directed to [email protected] or call 1-866-500-0368." A human is available at this number beginning at 9am EST.

OTAs not eligible because they do not confirm instantly:
  • AsiaWeb
  • Cancelon
  • Ctrip (Known as MyTrip from Dec 2017)
  • Elvoline
  • HappyRooms
  • Hoteling
  • HotelsClick (Some rates on request, some instant)
  • Ostrovok
  • Roomertravel
  • Laterooms (according to BRG team 24 Oct 2016)
  • Hotelius (according to BRG team 21 Sept 2017)
  • Zenhotels (according to BRG team 10 Nov 2017)
  • Travelbag (according to BRG team 22 Dec 2017)

Special Conditions for BRG & Design Hotels
  • You may only claim against the absolute lowest rate on SPG.com, for the date(s) in question.
  • The rate must be the lowest on sale on SPG.com, and is regardless of the type of room you actually want, the number of occupants, cancellation policy and the amenities provided. In all likelihood this will mean you have to use a rate for a standard room, for 1 person, non-refundable and without any amenities.
  • It is not necessary for the rate on the external website to match the SPG.com rate in any way including room type and number of occupants. The only requirement for a successful BRG claim is that the rate be lower than the lowest rate on SPG.com for the date(s) in question.
  • As with normal BRG claims, you need to make a booking before submitting a claim. Since this will likely be a non-refundable booking, note that you are responsible for any and all charges including cancellation charges, even if the claim is not approved.
  • Amenities that are included in the external website's rate but which are not included in the Starwood rate may or may not be provided.
  • You will retain the category of room booked on SPG.com, even if the external website rate submitted for the claim refers to a different category of room. This is especially pertinent in situations where the hotel continues to sell lower categories of rooms on other websites, while not making them available on SPG.com. You will then be able to book a higher category of room on SPG.com, BRG the lower rate, and retain the higher category of room while paying the lower rate.
  • If you need to BRG Design Hotels for Double or higher occupancy.
    Differing currencies
    • "The Best Rate Guarantee department will approve a claim if there is a difference of 2.5% or greater where the currencies are different or a difference of 1% or greater if the currencies are the same."

    Link to T&C
    https://www.starwoodhotels.com/bestrate/terms.html

    Practicalities During/After Stay
    • Reconfirm your rate at check-in; normally the hotel will have the correct BRG rate in your reservation, but sometimes you will need to remind them.
    • If you choose points, they will be credited after the stay; check in one week to see if they have posted. If not contact the BRG office to arrange to have them posted.

    How to view your reservation after BRG has been approved
    • The BRG will be processed for a single occupant, even if the rate does not change for more than one occupant. You must book the actual number of occupants intended. Effectively, you can only BRG for single occupant unless double rate happens to be the same as single. It is not possible to BRG if double rate is higher than single. No modification to occupancy is allowed if BRG is approved. If you submit with single rate, you will be stuck with single room; if you submit with double rate and single rate is lower, it will be automatically denied irrespective of competing rates.
    • Log into your SPG account
    • Click on your stays to view your current reservation
    • Click on "Set Stay Preferences", then SAVE
    • Refresh your stays page and the reservation should be visible again. You may need to repeat this step if the hotel touches your reservation. If you apply for Your24, you will not be able to view the reservation details.
How to cancel a BRG reservation
• Log into your SPG account
• Click on your stays to view our your current reservation
• Look for your BRG reservation and click on "Set Stay Preferences" link for the BRG reservation, then SAVE
• reload the page and you should now be able to cancel the reservation

How to add a SNA to a BRG reservation
• Log into your SPG account
• Click on your stays to view our your current reservation
• Look for your BRG reservation and click on "Set Stay Preferences" link for the BRG reservation, then SAVE
• reload the page and you should now be able to select "apply SNA to this stay" link


POSTING FORMAT

Hotel Name:
Arrival Date:
Departure Date:
Number of Rooms:
Number of Guests:
Room Type:
Starwood Brand Web Site Room Rate:
Company Room Provider:
Other Company Room Provider:
Competing rate:
Comments:

Q: Are SPG benefits honored for BRG stays?
A: Yes. You should receive the same SPG elite member benefits and stay/night credit as for a normal paid stay.
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Old Jan 19, 2017, 5:47 am
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Originally Posted by supatight80

Also a tip, you get higher chances right after SPG escapes as some property revenue management may be slow on switching some OTA rates to regular rates.
Thanks, I think that's what happened. The W was showing ~EUR210 for a long time (sale,early booking pre paid non ref rate) and couldn't get any BRGs to work - then the SPG rate went up to around 260, whist some other OTAs had it still around the EUR210 mark. Hence, 20% less, came down to 170.
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Old Jan 19, 2017, 11:49 am
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Put in a claim last night for 4 points Medellin, $100 on official site, $87 on Priceline/Booking.com. No response yet.

Update: Claim rejected because the prepaid rate on SPG.com is less than prepaid rate on Priceline/Booking.com. I sent a response asking why they are comparing prepaid rates when I am comparing flexible rates.

Last edited by slickvik; Jan 19, 2017 at 12:21 pm
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Old Jan 19, 2017, 12:26 pm
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Originally Posted by slickvik
Put in a claim last night for 4 points Medellin, $100 on official site, $87 on Priceline/Booking.com. No response yet.

Update: Claim rejected because the prepaid rate on SPG.com is less than prepaid rate on Priceline/Booking.com. I sent a response asking why they are comparing prepaid rates when I am comparing flexible rates.
Please take a minute to read the wiki and familiarize yourself with the Starwood BRG rules. In order for a BRG to be approved, you must find a lower rate than the lowest rate on spg.com regardless of cancellation policy. I'd say 95% of the time, this works in our favour.
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Old Jan 19, 2017, 2:14 pm
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Originally Posted by margarita girl
Please take a minute to read the wiki and familiarize yourself with the Starwood BRG rules. In order for a BRG to be approved, you must find a lower rate than the lowest rate on spg.com regardless of cancellation policy. I'd say 95% of the time, this works in our favour.
ALWAYS book the FLEXIBLE Rate. I just submitted for W Seattle, was 135 on travel zoo and 160 on website. I booked through the agent and said the rates terms had to match, this used to be true when i did a BRG 2 years ago but is no longer true.

Rate changed when they did research, and would not accept existing rates even with friends' confirmed reservations at the 135 rate. I was lucky as the W let me receive a refund.

Moral of the Story:
For a BRG Rate, always book the FLEXIBLE Rate.
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Old Jan 19, 2017, 3:05 pm
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Originally Posted by chuckisduck
ALWAYS book the FLEXIBLE Rate. I just submitted for W Seattle, was 135 on travel zoo and 160 on website. I booked through the agent and said the rates terms had to match, this used to be true when i did a BRG 2 years ago but is no longer true.
I've been doing BRGs for ~8 yrs. I don't think this has been true in that time period. And I always preferred to submit my BRGs with a reservation (a cancelable one) as opposed to submitting without, and then making the reservation after the approval.

And BTW, Travel Zoo redirects to SPG website, so you cannot submit a BRG with a Travel Zoo rate.


Originally Posted by chuckisduck
ALWAYS book the FLEXIBLE Rate. ...

Moral of the Story:
For a BRG Rate, always book the FLEXIBLE Rate.
Also covered in the wiki. But good idea to remind people.
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Old Jan 20, 2017, 3:33 pm
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Ended up contacting the hotel directly and it matched the Priceline price manually. I'm ok with that. Seems like this is a good method for foreign hotels, hotels seem to have their own location-based reservations departments.
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Old Jan 21, 2017, 12:21 am
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First BRG!

Hotel Name: Sheraton Lima Hotel & Convention Center
Arrival Date: Two days later this month

Room Type: Classic room for one adult (Including breakfast)
Actual confirmed rate: $84.27 USD, per room per night plus taxes ($105.34 USD less 20%)
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Old Jan 21, 2017, 12:48 pm
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Seriously frustrating BRG experience:

I have a valid claim and provided the link to the alternate website with the cheaper rate on otel.com (found via hotelscombined).

SPG BRG Reply 1: Rate on otel.com higher than Starwood rate.

I click on the link from my original claim that is attached to the bottom of the BRG team's reply and the rate is still there. So I email them with the detailed calculations and reiterate that the cheaper rate is still live via the link I provided in the original claim.

SPG BRG Reply 2: Looked over the previous associate's work. Everything was correct. If you can find a lower rate, please submit a new claim.

I again click on the link I provided (and made sure it works in another browser / incognito mode as well) and the rate is still there. So I email again and ask if they actually double-checked because the rate is still there and I don't see the point of re-submitting the same exact claim when the first one wasn't handled correctly.

SPG BRG Reply 3: We normally don't check again, but I did and otel.com doesn't have availability for your dates.

Rate and link I provided are still live, so I reply again with the same info.

SPG BRG Reply 4 (via phone now): I figured out what was wrong. You went through hotelscombined.com but we just went to otel.com and searched and couldn't find it. Could you please submit a new claim and write "otel.com via hotelscombined.com" in the provider field?

I told them once again that the link I provided led to the live rate on otel.com, but eventually just relented and filed a new claim. (I'm still waiting for a response on that.) Why do we even have to put a link in the claim form if none of the four associates I dealt with seem to even remotely consider the idea of clicking on it?

tl;dr -- if you find a rate from a provider via hotelscombined.com, write "provider via hotelscombined.com" in the subject field.
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Old Jan 21, 2017, 9:07 pm
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Originally Posted by flyino07
....if you find a rate from a provider via hotelscombined.com, write "provider via hotelscombined.com" in the subject field.
Yes, many rates don't show up if you go to website directly vs via hotelscombined. Hence, you must list it as such. I have no idea why. In fairness, you cannot blame this on BRG desk.
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Old Jan 21, 2017, 9:46 pm
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Originally Posted by flyino07
tl;dr -- if you find a rate from a provider via hotelscombined.com, write "provider via hotelscombined.com" in the subject field.
i do this everytime i find a lower rate through hotelscombined.com as i've often noticed that going to the third party site directly might have a different rate....
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Old Jan 22, 2017, 2:09 am
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Originally Posted by Keyser
i do this everytime i find a lower rate through hotelscombined.com as i've often noticed that going to the third party site directly might have a different rate....
It's true - either higher rate or rate/hotel not available.
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Old Jan 22, 2017, 4:58 am
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Hotel Name: W Doha
Dates: Mar 9-10
Number of Rooms: 1
Number of Guests: 2
Room Type: Spectacular Room + Bkfast
Starwood Brand Web Site Room Rate: 972 QAR
Competing rate: 702 QAR
BRG Reward: 20%
Actual confirmed rate: 561.60 QAR (~154 USD)
Comments: First BRG in a couple years (was Hyatt Diamond). Approved in 4h. Very effortless compared to Hyatt BRG.
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Old Jan 22, 2017, 9:24 pm
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Originally Posted by TerryK
Yes, many rates don't show up if you go to website directly vs via hotelscombined. Hence, you must list it as such. I have no idea why. In fairness, you cannot blame this on BRG desk.
So then why do we have to provide a link at all for the competing rate?

I don't see why the BRG folks wouldn't just click on the link to verify -- it would usually save them time.
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Old Jan 23, 2017, 7:28 am
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One of many reasons why I try to stay away from SPGs hotels as much as possible and use them as a last resort. Their BRG-rules are almost or close as bad as Hyatt's. Somehow every 3rd party hotel site has a deal with SPG to always offer the exact same locked rate as SPG's lowest uncancellable rate. It's obvious. Flexible rate could differ but you may not compare SPG's flexible rate with another Flexible rate from a 3rd party.
Been trying to compare SPG hotels from Japan and Seoul. Same exact locked rate everywhere, no matter which month I pick and dates. Experienced the same last summer in Tokyo. Ridiculous and shouldn't be allowed. It's destroying the market.

This is not the case with Marriott. Am afraid Marriott is approaching the same locked rate in the future but I sure hope not.

Last edited by joakgarp; Jan 23, 2017 at 7:34 am
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Old Jan 23, 2017, 7:34 am
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Originally Posted by joakgarp
One of many reasons why I try to stay away from SPGs hotels as much as possible and use them as a last resort. Their BRG-rules are even worse than Hyatt's or on the same bad level. Somehow every 3rd party hotel site has a deal with SPG to always offer the exact same locked rate as SPG's lowest uncancellable rate. It's obvious. Flexible rate could differ but you may not compare SPG's flexible rate with another Flexible rate from a 3rd party.
Been trying to compare SPG hotels from Japan and Seoul. Same exact locked rate everywhere, no matter which month I pick and dates. Experienced the same last summer in Tokyo. Ridiculous and shouldn't be allowed. It's destroying the market.

This is not the case with Marriott. Am afraid Marriott is approaching the same locked rate in the future but I sure hope not.

Worse than Hyatt? Wow... like just, wow.

Having all sites sell the same lowest rate is destroying the market? In what way? Isn't that the point, that the customer should be able to find the lowest rate wherever he/she goes?
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