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What is the Best Rate Guarantee (BRG ?)
If a lower rate at a Starwood Hotel is made available on a non-Starwood website or non-Starwood mobile application, upon its receipt of a claim that satisfies these Best Rate Guarantee terms and conditions, Starwood will honor that Competing Rate and provide the individual that submitted the valid claim one of the following rewards: (1) an additional 20% discount off the Competing Rate per room per night (up to a maximum of three rooms); or (2) 2,000 Starwood Preferred Guest® Starpoints® per room per stay (up to a maximum of three rooms).

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• You cannot BRG against a rate on a Starwood Website/App (hot escapes, promos, Gov. Rate etc.). It has to be a 3rd party website/App.
• The rate you submit the BRG against must be a rate that is available to the general public. SPG will deny member only rates from 3rd party websites.
• Cancellation policy has no bearing on a BRG claim with one exception if the rate difference is within 1%.
"Starwood may deny claims where the difference between the Competing Rate and the rate on the Starwood Website is less than one percent; provided that Starwood will not use the fact that the difference between the Competing Rate and the rate on the Starwood Website is less than one percent to deny such claims if the cancellation policy for the Competing Rate is more favorable to the guest than the cancellation policy for the rate on the Starwood Website."
A valid Starwood website reservation is required to submit a BRG
• If a room category is available on an external website but not on Starwood, you may still make a claim. You still need to make a booking with Starwood using any other category of room - if your claim is approved the room type in the booking will be modified to match the room type you are claiming for
• Only one claim may be submitted per reservation number (If your first claim is denied, you may submit a new claim for that reservation if you find another lower rate after you receive the denial email)

• Make sure to book a flexible rate on SPG.com. This will allow you to then cancel this booking if you find a lower Starwood rate later (like the hot escapes etc.) or if your travel plans change.
• You can BRG with a flexible rate against a prepaid rate. In other words, if expedia is offering a room for $100 prepaid, and spg.com shows a prepaid room for $150 or a flexible room for $200, you can book the FLEXIBLE spg.com rate and BRG it against the PREPAID $100 expedia rate. And you will receive the flexible cancel terms if the BRG is approved. There are a few exceptions where properties impose stricter cancellation term based on competing rates.
• If your comparable rate includes extras like breakfast or parking, make sure there is a room available on spg.com that includes the exact amenities. If there is the same room type with the same amenities on SPG.com, they will compare and if lower on third party, the claim may be approved for the room type and with the amenities. If there is the same room type available but no/different amenities offered, the claim may still be approved, but the rate will be room only.
• Room types must be the same for a BRG.
• If you have an approved and finalized claim and you find an even cheaper rate later, then you may submit a new BRG claim that is not connected to any existing reservation. If this BRG claim is approved, you will need to make a new flexible reservation on SPG.com. Once the process is completed, you will then email the BRG desk to cancel your first reservation, if it is within the cancellation deadline.
• If you find availability for the room type you want on a third party website/app but there is no availability for that room type or no availability for any room type on the Starwood Website, then this may be an approved claim if it meets all other terms and conditions. You will need to make sure that you specify the room type you actually want on the Starwood Website section and enter 0 in the rate and currency. This will ensure that the processing associates know that the room type you want is not available on the Starwood Website. You may also add additional comments near the end of the claim form indicating that there is no availability on the Starwood Website to help clarify.
• Per the FAQ, "Any questions regarding claims should be directed to [email protected] or call 1-866-500-0368." A human is available at this number beginning at 9am EST.

OTAs not eligible because they do not confirm instantly:
  • AsiaWeb
  • Cancelon
  • Ctrip (Known as MyTrip from Dec 2017)
  • Elvoline
  • HappyRooms
  • Hoteling
  • HotelsClick (Some rates on request, some instant)
  • Ostrovok
  • Roomertravel
  • Laterooms (according to BRG team 24 Oct 2016)
  • Hotelius (according to BRG team 21 Sept 2017)
  • Zenhotels (according to BRG team 10 Nov 2017)
  • Travelbag (according to BRG team 22 Dec 2017)

Special Conditions for BRG & Design Hotels
  • You may only claim against the absolute lowest rate on SPG.com, for the date(s) in question.
  • The rate must be the lowest on sale on SPG.com, and is regardless of the type of room you actually want, the number of occupants, cancellation policy and the amenities provided. In all likelihood this will mean you have to use a rate for a standard room, for 1 person, non-refundable and without any amenities.
  • It is not necessary for the rate on the external website to match the SPG.com rate in any way including room type and number of occupants. The only requirement for a successful BRG claim is that the rate be lower than the lowest rate on SPG.com for the date(s) in question.
  • As with normal BRG claims, you need to make a booking before submitting a claim. Since this will likely be a non-refundable booking, note that you are responsible for any and all charges including cancellation charges, even if the claim is not approved.
  • Amenities that are included in the external website's rate but which are not included in the Starwood rate may or may not be provided.
  • You will retain the category of room booked on SPG.com, even if the external website rate submitted for the claim refers to a different category of room. This is especially pertinent in situations where the hotel continues to sell lower categories of rooms on other websites, while not making them available on SPG.com. You will then be able to book a higher category of room on SPG.com, BRG the lower rate, and retain the higher category of room while paying the lower rate.
  • If you need to BRG Design Hotels for Double or higher occupancy.
    Differing currencies
    • "The Best Rate Guarantee department will approve a claim if there is a difference of 2.5% or greater where the currencies are different or a difference of 1% or greater if the currencies are the same."

    Link to T&C
    https://www.starwoodhotels.com/bestrate/terms.html

    Practicalities During/After Stay
    • Reconfirm your rate at check-in; normally the hotel will have the correct BRG rate in your reservation, but sometimes you will need to remind them.
    • If you choose points, they will be credited after the stay; check in one week to see if they have posted. If not contact the BRG office to arrange to have them posted.

    How to view your reservation after BRG has been approved
    • The BRG will be processed for a single occupant, even if the rate does not change for more than one occupant. You must book the actual number of occupants intended. Effectively, you can only BRG for single occupant unless double rate happens to be the same as single. It is not possible to BRG if double rate is higher than single. No modification to occupancy is allowed if BRG is approved. If you submit with single rate, you will be stuck with single room; if you submit with double rate and single rate is lower, it will be automatically denied irrespective of competing rates.
    • Log into your SPG account
    • Click on your stays to view your current reservation
    • Click on "Set Stay Preferences", then SAVE
    • Refresh your stays page and the reservation should be visible again. You may need to repeat this step if the hotel touches your reservation. If you apply for Your24, you will not be able to view the reservation details.
How to cancel a BRG reservation
• Log into your SPG account
• Click on your stays to view our your current reservation
• Look for your BRG reservation and click on "Set Stay Preferences" link for the BRG reservation, then SAVE
• reload the page and you should now be able to cancel the reservation

How to add a SNA to a BRG reservation
• Log into your SPG account
• Click on your stays to view our your current reservation
• Look for your BRG reservation and click on "Set Stay Preferences" link for the BRG reservation, then SAVE
• reload the page and you should now be able to select "apply SNA to this stay" link


POSTING FORMAT

Hotel Name:
Arrival Date:
Departure Date:
Number of Rooms:
Number of Guests:
Room Type:
Starwood Brand Web Site Room Rate:
Company Room Provider:
Other Company Room Provider:
Competing rate:
Comments:

Q: Are SPG benefits honored for BRG stays?
A: Yes. You should receive the same SPG elite member benefits and stay/night credit as for a normal paid stay.
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Old Feb 2, 2017, 2:48 pm
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Originally Posted by nesnith
FYI, you can actually use the Citi Prestige 4th night free benefit in addition to SPG BRG.

First, book the hotel through Citi Concierge as usual, and confirm that the 4th night free benefit applies to your booking. Once the booking has been made, ask them to submit the BRG claim on your behalf. You will have to walk them through the process; basically, have them fill out the BRG claim form for you from their end.

This can be done within the same phone call with the same agent.
Actually, you are right. I think I had read this in a previous post but forgot about it. D'oh!! I already made 2 BRG claims against this property. I'll keep those and call Citi to book a 3rd reservation and have them BRG for me. I'll then go ahead and cancel one of my original BRG claims as I can only do Citi 4th night on 1 reservation (correct me if I'm wrong).
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Old Feb 2, 2017, 2:54 pm
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Still having problems with the Indian Team who cannot see the rates which I do. Anyway US Team just approved my claim:

Hotel Name: Le Méridien Pyramids Hotel & Spa
Arrival Date: March , 2017
Departure Date: March , 2017
Room Type: Two Premium Classic Rooms with two adults in each room
Actual confirmed rate: 44.94 EUR plus taxes and service charge per room, including breakfast
SPG Rate:85.26++

Took 2000
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Old Feb 2, 2017, 3:32 pm
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Still having problems with the Indian Team who cannot see the rates which I do. Anyway US Team just approved my claim:
Same for me, almost very claim gets denied when its processed in India (based on time stamp on the email), when I reply and ask to verify again it gets approved by someone in the USA. A bit annoying..
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Old Feb 2, 2017, 4:19 pm
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Hotel Name: Four Points by Sheraton Seoul, Namsan
Arrival Date: February 09, 2017
Departure Date: February 10, 2017
Room Type: Superior room for two adults (room only)
Starwood Brand Web Site Room Rate: KRW 118800
Competing Rate: EUR 94
Actual Confirmed Rate: 97,258.26 KRW per room per night plus taxes +2000 points

Hotel Name: The Mira Hong Kong, a Member of Design Hotels
Arrival Date: February 10, 2017
Departure Date: February 11, 2017
Room Type: Studio
Starwood Brand Web Site Room Rate: HKD 1567.5
Competing Rate: EUR 170
Actual confirmed rate: 1,026.32 HKD plus service charge (1,282.90 HKD less 20%)

Hotel Name: Sheraton on the Park, Sydney
Arrival Date: February 13, 2017
Departure Date: February 14, 2017
Room Type: Cityside for 2 Adults
Starwood Brand Web Site Room Rate: AUD 361.62
Competing Rate: EUR 248
Actual confirmed rate: 280.94 AUD inclusive of tax (351.18 AUD less 20%)
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Old Feb 2, 2017, 5:06 pm
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Originally Posted by thomasito
Same for me, almost very claim gets denied when its processed in India (based on time stamp on the email), when I reply and ask to verify again it gets approved by someone in the USA. A bit annoying..
My biggest beef with India is they will flat out refuse to review a claim that I know is valid, but has been denied. This is the standard response I get even though I include links, screenshots and a disclaimer acknowledging that I know they need to see it themselves, but they won't even look!

I apologize for the inconvenience caused to you regarding the BRG claim. I wish to inform you that room and rates are always subject to availability and all research must be completed at the time of processing by a dedicated BRG specialist. We must know definitively that the rates available at time of processing are valid and we can only guarantee this by direct observation in real time. Also, the Best Rate Guarantee Department validates the rates offered on both the competing website and our own website at the time of processing. We do not have the ability to verify a rate that was available prior to this time.

To find the complete details of the Best Rate Guarantee program, please refer to our published terms and conditions.

Customer provided evidence for validating Best Rate Guarantee claims are not accepted. All research must be completed at the time of processing by a dedicated BRG specialist. We must know definitively that the rates available at time of processing are valid and we can only guarantee this by direct observation in real time.
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Old Feb 2, 2017, 7:57 pm
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Originally Posted by nesnith
FYI, you can actually use the Citi Prestige 4th night free benefit in addition to SPG BRG.

First, book the hotel through Citi Concierge as usual, and confirm that the 4th night free benefit applies to your booking. Once the booking has been made, ask them to submit the BRG claim on your behalf. You will have to walk them through the process; basically, have them fill out the BRG claim form for you from their end.

This can be done within the same phone call with the same agent.
So I gave this a try with 2 CSR and they both didn't know what to do or said can't be done on their end. I just had them book the reservation for me anyways and I will just fill out the claim myself and then get back in touch w/ Citi concierge to notify them. I'm hoping that works??
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Old Feb 2, 2017, 8:37 pm
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Originally Posted by booyun
So I gave this a try with 2 CSR and they both didn't know what to do or said can't be done on their end. I just had them book the reservation for me anyways and I will just fill out the claim myself and then get back in touch w/ Citi concierge to notify them. I'm hoping that works??
That's very strange. It can definitely be done on their end. That's coming from my own experience, and mentions from other FT'ers in the Citi 4th night free thread.

When I asked Citi Concierge about using 4th night free plus best rate guarantee, here was their response verbatim:

"If you've booked a reservation through the Concierge that offers a Best Rate Guarantee option (such as the Starwood line of hotels), and you want to take advantage of that option, simply provide the relevant information to the Concierge - such as screenshots, rate quote copies, or any other documentation needed to process the claim. We will be glad to submit a rate request on your behalf through the hotel, and verify that all information is collected for your Complimentary Fourth Night benefit as well."

Good luck!
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Old Feb 2, 2017, 10:08 pm
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Originally Posted by nesnith
That's very strange. It can definitely be done on their end. That's coming from my own experience, and mentions from other FT'ers in the Citi 4th night free thread.

When I asked Citi Concierge about using 4th night free plus best rate guarantee, here was their response verbatim:

"If you've booked a reservation through the Concierge that offers a Best Rate Guarantee option (such as the Starwood line of hotels), and you want to take advantage of that option, simply provide the relevant information to the Concierge - such as screenshots, rate quote copies, or any other documentation needed to process the claim. We will be glad to submit a rate request on your behalf through the hotel, and verify that all information is collected for your Complimentary Fourth Night benefit as well."

Good luck!
OK, put in the request. But after I did it I realized that the email was addressed to Aspire and not my email address. Therefore, I won't know if the BRG claim gets approved. Hmmm... I may need to check my account to see if the reservation looks different (i.e. complex reservation) or may have to call back in to Citi concierge to see what they see on their end.
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Old Feb 3, 2017, 9:56 pm
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Could someone help me understand this part of the wiki?
If you have an approved and finalized claim and you find an even cheaper rate later, then you may submit a new BRG claim that is not connected to any existing reservation. If this BRG claim is approved, you will need to make a new flexible reservation on SPG.com. Once the process is completed, you will then email the BRG desk to cancel your first reservation, if it is within the cancellation deadline.
So do I just fill out a brg for the same reservation dates, without entering the confirmation number, and then if it is approved then I can book another reservation on SPG.com and the BRG team will apply that approval to the new reservation? (Then cancel the old BRG reservation).
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Old Feb 7, 2017, 8:28 am
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Longtime SPG member (former Plat, now lifetime Gold).

First time BRG experience and a little confused. I DID read the terms btw.

1 Submitted a BRG or a "Tribute Porftolio" hotel. I don't know if this is treated as Starwood hotel or "SPG Parnter/Design" hotel, and to be honest, when I made this one had not noticed there is a difference.

Nevertheless, I found that all rates on hotels.com were less. Being my first time BRG, I actually booked REFUNDABLE on SPG, but a DELUXE room (one category above the lowest category), and then submitted my claim against the same on hotels.com (i.e. REFUNDABLE DELUXE). I did NOT compare the lowest room or the lowest rates regardless of cancellation policy.

Reading this thread, it sounds like i did that incorrectly? Yet, I was approved and they booked me at the Deluxe Room, refundable, and 20% less than the rate I quoted.

I was happy with that. (Haven't gone yet to see if it's honored).


2. Happy about that, I tried booking a hotel in Amsterdam, this time a Design Hotel.
Did the same thing: booked refundable rate at a room type one above the lowest (i.el hoping that I could then get an Gold upgrade to the 3rd room type). Then submitted the hotels.com com rate for this same room. I.e. I did not compare the prepaid lowest room category.

This time, it got rejected, quoting the onine about SPG Partner hotels, saying it must be the lowest rate on SPG.com regardless of room type etc.

Did I just luck out in #1? Or is a "Tribute" hotel different from a "Design" hotel?

I want a refundable rate, and want the 2nd level room category (i.e. not the least luxurious). Am I doing this wrong?

Thanks.
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Old Feb 7, 2017, 9:21 am
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Originally Posted by GaryMF

2. Happy about that, I tried booking a hotel in Amsterdam, this time a Design Hotel.
Design Hotel has its own terms, Please refer to the wiki "Special Conditions for BRG & Design Hotels"
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Old Feb 7, 2017, 9:39 am
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Originally Posted by woresu
Design Hotel has its own terms, Please refer to the wiki "Special Conditions for BRG & Design Hotels"
That is correct, Design Hotels have their own separate terms as clearly explained in the wiki.
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Old Feb 7, 2017, 11:00 am
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Originally Posted by woresu
Design Hotel has its own terms, Please refer to the wiki "Special Conditions for BRG & Design Hotels"
I did read that.

'I was asking

1. if "Tribute Portfolio" is same or different from Design. sounds like Tribute is treated like regular Starwood and the special conditions don[t apply.

2. If I am interpreting the Special Conditions for Design correctly, you can only get a BRG if you book the absolute lowest, usually a prepaid lowest category room (if still available).

So if that is available, there's no way to use BRG and book with no cancel penalty and guarantee a better room even for more $?

Just want to confirm. I know FT experts often have good workarounds or loopholes suggestions
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Old Feb 7, 2017, 12:31 pm
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Tribute is a Starwood brand

Originally Posted by GaryMF
......1. if "Tribute Portfolio" is same or different from Design. sounds like Tribute is treated like regular Starwood and the special conditions don[t apply.
Tribute is a Starwood brand. Design Hotels is the only partner at this point.
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Old Feb 7, 2017, 1:14 pm
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Originally Posted by TerryK
Tribute is a Starwood brand. Design Hotels is the only partner at this point.
Thank you. Didn't know that.

So for Design you must book prepaid lowest room category available to do BRG?

No way to book a betterroom after?

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