Sep 22, 2016, 11:20 pm
Last edit by: SkiAdcock
Deal closed Sep 23 - http://news.marriott.com/2016/09/marriott-international-expanded-loyalty-benefits/
FAQ :
http://members.marriott.com/faq/#will-rewards-and-spg-be-turning-into-one-program
Will Rewards and SPG be turning into one program?
These are two of the best programs in the industry, and we want you to benefit from everything that makes SPG and Rewards great. We don’t anticipate that the two programs will come together before 2018, and we will keep you informed of any updates. In the meantime, there’s no change to how you book reservations, manage your accounts or earn Elite night credits, points and miles in the current programs
Status Matches
MR Platinum <--> SPG Platinum
MR Gold <--> SPG Gold
MR Silver <--> SPG Preferred Plus
MR Member <--> SPG Preferred
If your status changes (i.e. Gold->Plat) in one program, your status in the other program will be automatically upgraded within 24 hours per Marriott FAQ
You can now link your Marriott Rewards or Ritz-Carlton Rewards account with your SPG account.
To link your accounts, log in to either account at:
http://www.spg.com/linkmarriott
http://members.marriott.com/
It will be a 3:1 transfer ratio between MR-SPG
If I have Lifetime Status in one of the programs, will I also get it in the other program when I link my accounts?
This is the Official Answer : "We appreciate your loyalty! Lifetime Status is specific to the program that you earned it in. While linking accounts will not result in Lifetime Status in the other program, your Elite status will be matched to the same Elite tier in the other program. Any existing Lifetime Status you already hold within either program will still be enjoyed within that program. We’re working on more ways to recognize your loyalty and Lifetime Status as we work towards harmonizing the programs, which we don’t anticipate happening until 2018."
Transferring points from SPG to MR does NOT change lifetime MR points.
Transferring points from SPG to MR does NOT count as activity & therefore does not extend the expiration date of points.
SPG platinum member matched to MR plat and now interested in the MR - UA Silver status match ? Check here.
Updated Terms and Conditions for the two programs can be found at
http://members.marriott.com/terms-conditions/
http://www.starwoodhotels.com/preferredguest/legal/spg_terms.html
Complete listing of all the hotel brands in the in the merged company :
http://www.marriott.com/marriott-brands.mi#ourbrands
http://www.marriott.com/Images/Brands/brands_page_2016/global_architecture_images/US_MAR_SPG_brand_architecture.png
FAQ :
http://members.marriott.com/faq/#will-rewards-and-spg-be-turning-into-one-program
Will Rewards and SPG be turning into one program?
These are two of the best programs in the industry, and we want you to benefit from everything that makes SPG and Rewards great. We don’t anticipate that the two programs will come together before 2018, and we will keep you informed of any updates. In the meantime, there’s no change to how you book reservations, manage your accounts or earn Elite night credits, points and miles in the current programs
Status Matches
MR Platinum <--> SPG Platinum
MR Gold <--> SPG Gold
MR Silver <--> SPG Preferred Plus
MR Member <--> SPG Preferred
If your status changes (i.e. Gold->Plat) in one program, your status in the other program will be automatically upgraded within 24 hours per Marriott FAQ
You can now link your Marriott Rewards or Ritz-Carlton Rewards account with your SPG account.
To link your accounts, log in to either account at:
http://www.spg.com/linkmarriott
http://members.marriott.com/
It will be a 3:1 transfer ratio between MR-SPG
If I have Lifetime Status in one of the programs, will I also get it in the other program when I link my accounts?
This is the Official Answer : "We appreciate your loyalty! Lifetime Status is specific to the program that you earned it in. While linking accounts will not result in Lifetime Status in the other program, your Elite status will be matched to the same Elite tier in the other program. Any existing Lifetime Status you already hold within either program will still be enjoyed within that program. We’re working on more ways to recognize your loyalty and Lifetime Status as we work towards harmonizing the programs, which we don’t anticipate happening until 2018."
Transferring points from SPG to MR does NOT change lifetime MR points.
Transferring points from SPG to MR does NOT count as activity & therefore does not extend the expiration date of points.
SPG platinum member matched to MR plat and now interested in the MR - UA Silver status match ? Check here.
Updated Terms and Conditions for the two programs can be found at
http://members.marriott.com/terms-conditions/
http://www.starwoodhotels.com/preferredguest/legal/spg_terms.html
Complete listing of all the hotel brands in the in the merged company :
http://www.marriott.com/marriott-brands.mi#ourbrands
http://www.marriott.com/Images/Brands/brands_page_2016/global_architecture_images/US_MAR_SPG_brand_architecture.png
Marriott/Starwood merger closed; FAQs; Status Match; MR & SPG accounts can be linked
Jul 17, 2017, 5:42 am
#991
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Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: New York, NY
Programs: Delta - Gold; Starwood - Platinum; HHonors - Diamond & Avis Preferred
Posts: 10,869
No date has been announced. There is a huge merger thread that speculates dates. Have you reviewed that thread?
Jul 17, 2017, 7:07 am
#992
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: ORD, MKE
Programs: Bonvoy LT Gold, Hilton Silver, Hyatt Discoverist, Hertz PC, National EE
Posts: 710
Jul 17, 2017, 9:03 am
#994
Join Date: Sep 2005
Programs: AC MM E50 , Former SPG, now Marriott LT Plat
Posts: 6,264
The last official word I saw was " late 2018".
So definitely not Jan 1.
So definitely not Jan 1.
Jul 17, 2017, 11:35 am
#995
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Location: IAD/DCA
Posts: 31,797
no, it is not.
Jul 17, 2017, 2:46 pm
#996
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Join Date: May 2002
Location: Pittsburgh
Programs: MR/SPG LT Titanium, AA LT PLT, UA SLV, Avis PreferredPlus
Posts: 31,009
Jul 17, 2017, 5:32 pm
#997
Join Date: Jul 1999
Programs: QF WP, AA EXP
Posts: 3,520
Look at that thread referenced upstream. During an investors conference Marriott leadership was quoted as saying it probably would not happen until late 2018. They need to get everything on the same compute platform first, then they will go about merging.
Jul 17, 2017, 7:16 pm
#998
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Posts: 31,797
reposting due to questions in other threads
feb 16 2017 (and there may be earlier quotes) >
files.shareholder.com/downloads/MAR/4088793841x0x928688/D97DF6AB-FF5C-433D-9817-7D5084FF22DC/MAR_TRANSCRIPT_Q4_2016_FINAL.pdf
Q2 report scheduled for aug 7 2017
feb 16 2017 (and there may be earlier quotes) >
Originally Posted by Sorenson
different rules around qualification for Elite level...You certainly should not expect that we will have one program anytime in 2017. Whether we will in 2018 is something we will work to maximize the chances for, but we don't have a date to give you yet.
Q2 report scheduled for aug 7 2017
Jul 17, 2017, 10:20 pm
#999
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Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: GVA (Greater Vancouver Area)
Programs: DREAD Gold; UA 1.035MM; Bonvoy Au-197; PCC Elite+; CCC Elite+; MSC C-12; CWC Au-197; WoH Dis
Posts: 52,140
It's too late for them to announce somehting this big for January. I'm sure they'll give people a decent amount of notice for planning purposes.
Jul 18, 2017, 12:21 am
#1000
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Miami, FL
Programs: UA 1MM, AA Plat, Marriott LT Titanium, Hyatt Glob, IHG ♢ Amb, Hilton ♢, Hertz Pres
Posts: 6,017
To your point, most people become used to a website - and that's what they like/know. But for me, I'd prefer transparency over ease... although clearly both are best.
Jul 18, 2017, 6:55 am
#1001
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Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: South Florida
Programs: AA LTG (EXP), Hilton Silver (Dia), Marriott LTP (PP), SPG LTG (P) > MPG LTPP
Posts: 11,329
We can only hope. Keep in mind if the merge is not so good for us, there will be little chance to burn & bail. MR has not always been good about advance announcements and we must keep up with what's happening and we each must decide what is good for us. There will be some happy with the changes and some not so happy. Remember, they have the right to just cancel the existing programs and make everyone start from scratch.
Jul 18, 2017, 7:53 am
#1002
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: HEL
Programs: SPG LTP, hotels, OWE, STE+, *G, Octopus
Posts: 5,786
We will be screwed over at the end. Either the new top tier will be announced overnight effective Jan 1 2018 or we will be "gifted" a 'nice' book for Christmas. Come 2019 we'll start regular "remember the spg plat days" at non-"reformed" properties throughout the globe.
Jul 18, 2017, 9:57 am
#1003
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Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: LGA/JFK/EWR
Programs: UA 1K1.75MM, Hyatt Globalist, abandoned Marriott LTT (RIP SPG), Hertz PC
Posts: 21,171
I find Marriott frustrating and also misleading. Frustrating because you cannot search multiple rates at 1x. You must search AAA, first. Then Corp rate or promo code second. Misleading because the rate shown isn't always the total rate. You are shown the first nights rate... and the rate may change after that. Whereas with SPG you can search multiple rates and are shown the average rate for all nights (so it doesn't matter if the rate changes). I also like SPGs "flexible date" search which allows you to see if it behooves you to come a day later or earlier, etc. With Marriott - it's search one day and one rate a time. Takes a lot longer to complete.
Jul 18, 2017, 12:08 pm
#1004
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: LAS
Programs: PA FT, TW Gold, NW/CO PE, VK Eagleflyer
Posts: 7,173
Jul 20, 2017, 6:20 am
#1005
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Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Minneapolis: DL DM charter 2.3MM
Programs: A3*Gold, SPG Plat, HyattDiamond, MarriottPP, LHW exAccess, ICI, Raffles Amb, NW PE MM, TWA Gold MM
Posts: 100,413
I find Marriott frustrating and also misleading. Frustrating because you cannot search multiple rates at 1x. You must search AAA, first. Then Corp rate or promo code second. Misleading because the rate shown isn't always the total rate. You are shown the first nights rate... and the rate may change after that. Whereas with SPG you can search multiple rates and are shown the average rate for all nights (so it doesn't matter if the rate changes). I also like SPGs "flexible date" search which allows you to see if it behooves you to come a day later or earlier, etc. With Marriott - it's search one day and one rate a time. Takes a lot longer to complete.
To your point, most people become used to a website - and that's what they like/know. But for me, I'd prefer transparency over ease... although clearly both are best.
To your point, most people become used to a website - and that's what they like/know. But for me, I'd prefer transparency over ease... although clearly both are best.