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Old Aug 15, 2012, 12:00 pm
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Originally Posted by Starwood Lurker
I would expect that if I used an SNA and it was approved and I got to the property that the SNA would be returned for me to use at a later time. YMMV.

As far as the one-off situation that was created here...how many of these have we seen? Why every time we have a one-off situation, does it become equal to the norm? Stuff certainly happens, but that doesn't mean it happens as a matter of course.

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I only asked that question because a member had a confirmed suite (not upgraded but fully paid) at a property that I'm thinking to travel to only because it is the only one in the area, the room was given away and the member only got a regular room. So I'm thinking of using some SNA's but wondering what would happen if I had it confirmed then only to be denied at checking in.

Yes crediting the SNA's back should happen either way, but at least in a case like this Starwood should have the expiry date of the SNA's delayed by one more extra year (this is only a suggestion).
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Old Aug 15, 2012, 12:00 pm
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Originally Posted by Starwood Lurker
I would expect that if I used an SNA and it was approved and I got to the property that the SNA would be returned for me to use at a later time. YMMV.

As far as the one-off situation that was created here...how many of these have we seen? Why every time we have a one-off situation, does it become equal to the norm? Stuff certainly happens, but that doesn't mean it happens as a matter of course.

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William, I agree, a one-time event does not a policy make (maybe not even ten). And I'm sure SPG will do what they can to remedy this (at great cost to the property I hope).

Although there have been a few postings of pleasant outcomes using SNAs, we hear many that didn't go so well. Can you help us put this in perspective by digging up some rough numbers? I realize exact numbers may be considered proprietary, but something like 100K SNAs have been issued, 60K have been redeemed would tell us that the 59900 redeemed were either not FTer's or went well. Just a touch of perspective here would help.
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Old Aug 15, 2012, 12:04 pm
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Originally Posted by LovetoTravel83
...So I'm thinking of using some SNA's but wondering what would happen if I had it confirmed then only to be denied at checking in...
You would get the SNA's back, but I have to believe that the chance this will happen to you is practically nil. Even if it did, you can believe some hard questions are going to asked at the property level and that SPG will get to the source of it to ensure it doesn't happen again.

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Old Aug 15, 2012, 4:50 pm
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Originally Posted by Starwood Lurker
You would get the SNA's back, but I have to believe that the chance this will happen to you is practically nil. Even if it did, you can believe some hard questions are going to asked at the property level and that SPG will get to the source of it to ensure it doesn't happen again.

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I, too, would hope this is a relatively one-off situation. However, I suspect its more along the lines of the percentage of people that get walked due to overselling a room. The reality is that sh!t happens, however unpleasant it may be to the customer, and it rarely is done with ill intentions.

Procedures and standards are in place for what happens when a customer gets walked from a confirmed stay (I think), I would hope some sort of formal, or even informal, procedures are put in place for a property that confirms a customer into a particular upgraded room using instruments that the hotel is compensated with, but then can't provide it at check-in.
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Old Aug 15, 2012, 5:47 pm
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Originally Posted by whimike
I, too, would hope this is a relatively one-off situation. However, I suspect its more along the lines of the percentage of people that get walked due to overselling a room. The reality is that sh!t happens, however unpleasant it may be to the customer, and it rarely is done with ill intentions.

Procedures and standards are in place for what happens when a customer gets walked from a confirmed stay (I think), I would hope some sort of formal, or even informal, procedures are put in place for a property that confirms a customer into a particular upgraded room using instruments that the hotel is compensated with, but then can't provide it at check-in.
The standard here is to refund what was paid and maybe some goodwill points/cash. As long as the property has a room, it's not a walk. In extreme cases, I've heard of hotels putting a roll-away in a hospitality room (with bath). Still not a walk.
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Old Aug 16, 2012, 1:36 am
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The standard here is to refund what was paid and maybe some goodwill points/cash. As long as the property has a room, it's not a walk. In extreme cases, I've heard of hotels putting a roll-away in a hospitality room (with bath). Still not a walk.
Correct, I wasn't suggesting it would be a walk. The question is what would happen if I paid for a suite and when I check in they only have a base room available? Clearly I would expect more than just the rate difference refunded.

Since an SNA is a form of payment, I would hope they would come up with a policy where a hotel has already confirmed the SNA but then not have the room available upon check-in. I wouldn't expect a simple refund of the SNA to be sufficient.
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Old Aug 16, 2012, 2:01 am
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Question for the Lurkers,

I'm thinking of booking a stay at a property which has the Sunsational Savings offer of Comp 4th night, 100 USD credit and upgrade at check-in if available.

If I use the SNA at the property and it was successful, is it possible to further upgrade at check-in? Their T&C only says this "If guest books a larger suite, upgrades are not possible, as there are no larger rooms to upgrade."
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Old Aug 16, 2012, 3:18 am
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Originally Posted by LovetoTravel83
Question for the Lurkers,

I'm thinking of booking a stay at a property which has the Sunsational Savings offer of Comp 4th night, 100 USD credit and upgrade at check-in if available.

If I use the SNA at the property and it was successful, is it possible to further upgrade at check-in? Their T&C only says this "If guest books a larger suite, upgrades are not possible, as there are no larger rooms to upgrade."
The answer is no(clearly stated by their T&Cs). But, YMMV especially if lady luck is in a good mood.

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Old Aug 16, 2012, 5:53 am
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Originally Posted by Starwood Lurker II
The answer is no(clearly stated by their T&Cs). But, YMMV especially if lady luck is in a good mood.

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Their T&C's say larger suite, If I use the SNA it would be the lowest suite catagory and not larger at all.
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Old Aug 16, 2012, 7:51 am
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Originally Posted by LovetoTravel83
Their T&C's say larger suite, If I use the SNA it would be the lowest suite catagory and not larger at all.
Thyetus gave you the right answer. Officially, no; however, YMMV.

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Old Aug 17, 2012, 8:45 am
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I have been paging through the thread without finding the answer to:

Can I get another 10 SNA if I clear 100 nights in a year? What about 150?
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Old Aug 17, 2012, 8:49 am
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Originally Posted by PersonalFlotationDevice
I have been paging through the thread without finding the answer to:

Can I get another 10 SNA if I clear 100 nights in a year? What about 150?
Only if you have a couple of pseudonyms and extra SPG accounts
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Old Aug 17, 2012, 9:43 am
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We’re sorry, Suite Night Awards can’t be applied to this reservation

Unable to request suite nights at Stonebriar Westin Frisco.

I'm not sure which of these reasons apply, I do have 3 rooms on this reservation but platinum concierge said this was not the reason.


Suite Night Awards can’t be requested for some types of reservations and in some circumstances – these are:
The rate booked is a non-eligible SPG rate.
The member does not have sufficient Suite Night Awards in the account for the duration of the stay.
Suite Night Awards can’t be applied online to stays with more than one room. Please call us to use your Awards.
The number of people in a reservation party exceeds the capacity of any upgrade room options.
Suite Night Awards can’t be applied after 3 p.m. local hotel time the day before arrival.
Suite Night Awards can’t be applied to a reservation that is already booked with an upgrade option for those dates.
The hotel isn’t configured for Suite Night Awards. Potential reasons include, but are not limited to, hotels that don’t have upgraded room types and all-suite hotels.
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Old Aug 17, 2012, 9:53 am
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Originally Posted by PersonalFlotationDevice
I have been paging through the thread without finding the answer to:

Can I get another 10 SNA if I clear 100 nights in a year? What about 150?
Simple answer, no.
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Old Aug 17, 2012, 10:17 am
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Originally Posted by JWAustinVTX
Unable to request suite nights at Stonebriar Westin Frisco.

I'm not sure which of these reasons apply, I do have 3 rooms on this reservation but platinum concierge said this was not the reason.


Suite Night Awards can’t be requested for some types of reservations and in some circumstances – these are:
The rate booked is a non-eligible SPG rate.
The member does not have sufficient Suite Night Awards in the account for the duration of the stay.
Suite Night Awards can’t be applied online to stays with more than one room. Please call us to use your Awards.
The number of people in a reservation party exceeds the capacity of any upgrade room options.
Suite Night Awards can’t be applied after 3 p.m. local hotel time the day before arrival.
Suite Night Awards can’t be applied to a reservation that is already booked with an upgrade option for those dates.
The hotel isn’t configured for Suite Night Awards. Potential reasons include, but are not limited to, hotels that don’t have upgraded room types and all-suite hotels.
So you've call the Plat Desk and they can't/won't find out why it's being denied? You might try sending a PM to the Lurker's (did I see William is out of the office) and see if they can shed some light on why and maybe break something open.
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