Discussion: 10 Suite Night Awards (SNAs) for Plats with 50 nights in calendar year
#3076
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: South Florida
Programs: AA LTG (EXP), Hilton Silver (Dia), Marriott LTP (PP), SPG LTG (P) > MPG LTPP
Posts: 11,329
Just to close the loop on this thread. I heard back from both a St Regis NYC manager and the SPG lurkers. The lurkers informed me that what had happened was in fact my reservation had transferred to the St Regis Club (non participating in SNA) from the main hotel. At any rate, corporate returned the SNA back to my account (basically the -1 for the stay in question is gone off my SNA balance). The hotel manager wrote back a nice note offering 10k starpoints and a promise for a complimentary upgrade to a suite next time I stay at the property. While the points haven't posted yet, I am sure they will. I'm quite pleased with this outcome and look forward to going back to this property next time I am in town.
#3077
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Switzerland
Programs: SPG Plat, US Chairman
Posts: 11
Technically, I suppose so. But is it a walk if you don't know that it is a walk until after you check out? If I was a contentious sort - I could say that my ignorance of the whole thing even makes it worse. But I am not - so will hold off on being irritated until a bigger problem comes along.
#3078
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: perth
Programs: SPG(LTG), QANTAS gold, Korean, Accor Plat
Posts: 1,500
So far have applied for 13 suite nights and yet to have a failure. Just had 3 awarded in Bangkok over Easter.
#3079
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 36
It was the first time I really cared , maybe with all the apparently open rooms I'll get an upgrade at check in .
Despite our best efforts, we were unable to confirm your Suite Night Award request for your upcoming reservation.
Here are your reservation details:
Reservation confirmation number: xxxxxxxxxxx
Hotel: The Westin Maui Resort & Spa, Ka'anapali
Stay dates: March 26, 2015 through March 31, 2015
Suite Night Award(s) credited back to your account: 5
New Suite Night Award(s) balance: 10
Despite our best efforts, we were unable to confirm your Suite Night Award request for your upcoming reservation.
Here are your reservation details:
Reservation confirmation number: xxxxxxxxxxx
Hotel: The Westin Maui Resort & Spa, Ka'anapali
Stay dates: March 26, 2015 through March 31, 2015
Suite Night Award(s) credited back to your account: 5
New Suite Night Award(s) balance: 10
Knowing little of what would have made the SNA clear I wonder if booking as 2 Adult 2 Children could have been the stumbling block , at check in when offered the suite I enquired if it would sleep 4 as per the original reservation , no , so I believe that had the Property had an appropriate Suite available they would have booked us in.
#3080
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: AUH
Posts: 8,267
Became SPG50 for the first time in Feb, received my SNA in March.
Applied SNAs to two reservations so far, W Seoul and St Regis Saadiyat Abu Dhabi. Both were for weekend reservations which are the peak periods for those properties.
The SNAs cleared as soon as the window opened in both cases, for the highest category that I checked.
Will be interesting to see whether it is always this successful. But loving it so far!
Applied SNAs to two reservations so far, W Seoul and St Regis Saadiyat Abu Dhabi. Both were for weekend reservations which are the peak periods for those properties.
The SNAs cleared as soon as the window opened in both cases, for the highest category that I checked.
Will be interesting to see whether it is always this successful. But loving it so far!
#3081
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Kent, UK
Programs: BA Gold, SPG Platinum, Marriott Platinum, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 3,809
Two requests made two failures, both in Australia both in the same week. Bit annoying. First was at the Westin in Sydney which I've heard doesn't really look after plats well.
Now I can't seem to apply my re-credited SNA's to my next stay this week. I get an error message saying that the names on the reservation don't match and it prompts me to log in again??
Now I can't seem to apply my re-credited SNA's to my next stay this week. I get an error message saying that the names on the reservation don't match and it prompts me to log in again??
The name on your reservation and the SPG account to which you're currently signed in do not match. Please sign in to the same SPG account you used to make your reservation.
#3082
Company Representative - Starwood
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Austin, Texas
Programs: Marriott Employee Level
Posts: 31,593
Two requests made two failures, both in Australia both in the same week. Bit annoying. First was at the Westin in Sydney which I've heard doesn't really look after plats well.
Now I can't seem to apply my re-credited SNA's to my next stay this week. I get an error message saying that the names on the reservation don't match and it prompts me to log in again??
Now I can't seem to apply my re-credited SNA's to my next stay this week. I get an error message saying that the names on the reservation don't match and it prompts me to log in again??
Best regards,
William R. Sanders
Social Media Specialist
Starwood Hotels & Resorts Worldwide
[email protected]
#3083
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: ORD, MKE
Programs: Bonvoy LT Gold, Hilton Silver, Hyatt Discoverist, Hertz PC, National EE
Posts: 710
I've had this problem for over a year. SPG has been "looking into it" since the beginning but has not found a solution. I've had to call in anytime I have an SNA issue.
#3084
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Kent, UK
Programs: BA Gold, SPG Platinum, Marriott Platinum, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 3,809
Thanks megalab. Bit of a weird issue!
#3085
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: SFO
Programs: AS 75K, AA Gld / 1MM, Marriott Plat
Posts: 43
The Mysterious Disappearing Suite Night Upgrade
I booked the Westin South Coast Plaza for 2 nights about 6 days in advance, and requested a Suite Night Award to be applied. About 2 days later, it cleared, then the day before check-in, I got an email saying "per your request, your Suite Night Award has been cancelled. If you believe this is in error, call us."
I dutifully called the Platinum Concierge about 30 minutes later. After some "investigation" the agent told me that the hotel had upgraded me in error, that they thought they had capacity but really didn't.
I have read enough about hotel behavior on FT to be suspicious. I sent an email in to corporate suggesting that probably the hotel just has someone they like better than me checking in, and wanted them to have the upgrade instead. If true this defeats the entire purpose of Suite Nights, which are pretty worthless to begin with.
In your infinite group wisdom, FTers,
1. Do you think I am right that I was downgraded to accommodate someone else, and
2. Is there any chance SPG corporate will be able to figure that out?
I dutifully called the Platinum Concierge about 30 minutes later. After some "investigation" the agent told me that the hotel had upgraded me in error, that they thought they had capacity but really didn't.
I have read enough about hotel behavior on FT to be suspicious. I sent an email in to corporate suggesting that probably the hotel just has someone they like better than me checking in, and wanted them to have the upgrade instead. If true this defeats the entire purpose of Suite Nights, which are pretty worthless to begin with.
In your infinite group wisdom, FTers,
1. Do you think I am right that I was downgraded to accommodate someone else, and
2. Is there any chance SPG corporate will be able to figure that out?
#3086
Company Representative - Starwood
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Austin, Texas
Programs: Marriott Employee Level
Posts: 31,593
I booked the Westin South Coast Plaza for 2 nights about 6 days in advance, and requested a Suite Night Award to be applied. About 2 days later, it cleared, then the day before check-in, I got an email saying "per your request, your Suite Night Award has been cancelled. If you believe this is in error, call us."
I dutifully called the Platinum Concierge about 30 minutes later. After some "investigation" the agent told me that the hotel had upgraded me in error, that they thought they had capacity but really didn't.
I have read enough about hotel behavior on FT to be suspicious. I sent an email in to corporate suggesting that probably the hotel just has someone they like better than me checking in, and wanted them to have the upgrade instead. If true this defeats the entire purpose of Suite Nights, which are pretty worthless to begin with.
In your infinite group wisdom, FTers,
1. Do you think I am right that I was downgraded to accommodate someone else, and
2. Is there any chance SPG corporate will be able to figure that out?
I dutifully called the Platinum Concierge about 30 minutes later. After some "investigation" the agent told me that the hotel had upgraded me in error, that they thought they had capacity but really didn't.
I have read enough about hotel behavior on FT to be suspicious. I sent an email in to corporate suggesting that probably the hotel just has someone they like better than me checking in, and wanted them to have the upgrade instead. If true this defeats the entire purpose of Suite Nights, which are pretty worthless to begin with.
In your infinite group wisdom, FTers,
1. Do you think I am right that I was downgraded to accommodate someone else, and
2. Is there any chance SPG corporate will be able to figure that out?
1) properties do not have the capacity to directly cancel Suite Night Awards.
2) if you'd like for us to look into this for you, please send your account details to the email address below.
Best regards,
William R. Sanders
Social Media Specialist
Starwood Hotels & Resorts Worldwide
[email protected]
#3087
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: New York, NY
Programs: UA - 1K 1MM; Hyatt - Explorist; Marriott - Lifetime Titanium
Posts: 1,586
To answer your questions in order:
1. I doubt anyone here can credibly answer this one; sure, it's a possibility
2. I'd start by calling the property directly, indicate that you never requested a cancellation of the SNA and see how they respond. If it's unsatisfactory, take it to corporate customer care.
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or 3. Leave it in the capable hands of William (this is probably your best option!)
1. I doubt anyone here can credibly answer this one; sure, it's a possibility
2. I'd start by calling the property directly, indicate that you never requested a cancellation of the SNA and see how they respond. If it's unsatisfactory, take it to corporate customer care.
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or 3. Leave it in the capable hands of William (this is probably your best option!)
Last edited by vandalby; Apr 20, 2015 at 3:00 pm Reason: Responding to William
#3088
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: SFO
Programs: AS 75K, AA Gld / 1MM, Marriott Plat
Posts: 43
I will send my info to William, and THANK YOU for the prompt reply (and everything you do here).
#3089
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Always plenty of time to accuse people of wrongdoing later; but by starting out that way, you make it harder for them to admit that they might have made a mistake.
#3090
Join Date: Feb 2008
Programs: TWA Platinum Ambassador, Eastern Stratosphere, NWA Gold Elite
Posts: 119
First, let me say that William is a great help on SPG.com.
I don't think anyone would take the comment as inappropriate as accusing someone of wrongdoing. It was WRONGDOING. The OP had every right to posit a theory about the inexcusable way he was treated. Someone other than the OP messed up very badly. It's not required for wronged spg members to go hat in hand and ask for forgiveness here for commenting about terrible treatment.
That said:
The only time I ever asked for help here several years ago William got it sorted out right away. Just a case of reminding a hotel about their own policy.
That said, it's very off putting to read about stuff like this, which seems to confirm the spreading belief that the spg chain is just becoming a free for all, with little identity due to the lack of consistency. It's a training and enforcement issue and as much as William and others here try to help, it's help applied after some inexcusable damage to the chain has already been done. I can't imagine what damage William and his colleagues are expected to regularly repair.
I have had some great and fondly memorable stays with spg since I joined in 1993. It's too bad when I visit a new area and spg just flunks regarding the most basic stuff which is promised.
These days I just stay at spg proprieties I am familiar with and I will continue to do so. Working hard to stay an spg customer.
Your first communications with corporate shouldn't accuse anyone of wrongdoing.
That said:
The only time I ever asked for help here several years ago William got it sorted out right away. Just a case of reminding a hotel about their own policy.
That said, it's very off putting to read about stuff like this, which seems to confirm the spreading belief that the spg chain is just becoming a free for all, with little identity due to the lack of consistency. It's a training and enforcement issue and as much as William and others here try to help, it's help applied after some inexcusable damage to the chain has already been done. I can't imagine what damage William and his colleagues are expected to regularly repair.
I have had some great and fondly memorable stays with spg since I joined in 1993. It's too bad when I visit a new area and spg just flunks regarding the most basic stuff which is promised.
These days I just stay at spg proprieties I am familiar with and I will continue to do so. Working hard to stay an spg customer.
Last edited by czj48; Apr 20, 2015 at 7:41 pm