Discussion: 10 Suite Night Awards (SNAs) for Plats with 50 nights in calendar year
#1576
Join Date: Sep 1999
Location: Charlotte, NC USA
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Long standing award stay at the westin seattle. I tried to apply 3 sna's on Wednesday of this week. the choices were a Deluxe Suite and an accessible deluxe suite. Both room types were available for sale at the time. The denial e-mail came Thursday at 5:00 PM. On Friday, day that I'm checking in, at 5:00 AM sure enough, the website shows that the rooms are NOT available for booking. At 8:00 AM on Friday, day I'm checking in and 3 hours after they were unavailable for booking and 15 hours after my denial email, lookie there, the rooms ARE once again available for purchase.
So when I initiated the request the rooms were available, 36 hours-ish later I got the denial, the rooms were taken out of inventory, and on the day of arrival the rooms are back in inventory.
I'm sure it isn't as it appears...that the hotel refused to grant the upgrade as they should have when i started the process and that they are playing games with their inventory.
Of course, I may be upgraded at checkin without having to use any of my 14 expiring at year end SNA's...I hope it is to the SPG Floor!
Disappointing.
So when I initiated the request the rooms were available, 36 hours-ish later I got the denial, the rooms were taken out of inventory, and on the day of arrival the rooms are back in inventory.
I'm sure it isn't as it appears...that the hotel refused to grant the upgrade as they should have when i started the process and that they are playing games with their inventory.
Of course, I may be upgraded at checkin without having to use any of my 14 expiring at year end SNA's...I hope it is to the SPG Floor!
Disappointing.
#1577
Join Date: Sep 1999
Location: Charlotte, NC USA
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Amazing... Since I posted, they have had a run on rooms apparently at the Westin Seattle. There had been three different room types with various bed configurations as well as two suite types available. Now, 100% sold out. That's a successful 2 hours!
#1578
Join Date: Nov 2009
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I finally found the answer to my question. There is a modest incentive to the hotels, on the order of $5 - $10, each SNA, and unlikely more than $20. This is based on my booking of a suite at a resort hotel, which has several types of 1 BR suites with size varying by 100 - 200 Sq.ft. After I booked the smallest suite, I was surprised to see invitation for me to apply a SNA. So I clicked the button. The next page shows that my current reservation is a 650 sq.ft 1BR suite, the option for upgrade is a 760 sq.ft (another sentence says 900 sq.ft, do not know why) 1 BR suite. The "price" for upgrade is TWO (!) SNAs. So the SNA must be worth something > 99 cents, otherwise why the resort wants two of them? The room rates offered at time of reservation differ by $40, that led to of my guess.
They don't; and, the property cannot take two SNA's for a better suite, so could you name which property this is so we can follow up with them?
Best regards,
William R. Sanders
Social Media Specialist
Starwood Hotels & Resorts Worldwide
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Best regards,
William R. Sanders
Social Media Specialist
Starwood Hotels & Resorts Worldwide
[email protected]
I guess my guess might be right after all. Or else why they originally wanted two SNAs per night?
#1579
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 3,990
Cheers,
#1580
Used to be RichardKopf
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Sydney
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SNAs still eluding me. I tried to use a couple for a stay in Sydney, next week, but it wouldn't allow me to apply. A better look at the res shows they've pre-upgraded to exec suite, which is lovely, but I have more SNAs left than I could use.
I have applied for SNAs for every night that has not had a suite booked. So far, 3 were successful (about this time, last year). I have 17 remaining, which expire this year, plus 10 next year. I have 39 more nights booked until 31Dec. 24 are for suites, and 15 have SNAs attached. I still have 2 more left to be assigned for use before 31Dec.
Of course, I could book regular rooms instead of suites for those 24 nights, but the stays are over holiday periods in Hong Kong/China/Macao, San Francisco and New York and with my record of SNA successes, didn't think it was worth the risk when I really wanted a suite. For other stays, knowing that certain properties don't upgrade to the room-type I like, it's easier to just book them on Z3 rates or on points. Of the 15 assigned SNAs, 10 are at hotels which in a combined 115 stays have NEVER not offered a suite. They're probably wasted, but if I don't apply them, they will go totally unused.
Too bad I can't give some away, or trade them for something I CAN use.
BTW, I'll stop talking about this when I finally receive a benefit, instead of something which creates extra thought, takes time, and which has not delivered. I'm not being grumpy. I just feel that this benefit is aimed at a certain kind of traveller - but obviously not at me, and I would enjoy something which was beneficial to me, too.
I have applied for SNAs for every night that has not had a suite booked. So far, 3 were successful (about this time, last year). I have 17 remaining, which expire this year, plus 10 next year. I have 39 more nights booked until 31Dec. 24 are for suites, and 15 have SNAs attached. I still have 2 more left to be assigned for use before 31Dec.
Of course, I could book regular rooms instead of suites for those 24 nights, but the stays are over holiday periods in Hong Kong/China/Macao, San Francisco and New York and with my record of SNA successes, didn't think it was worth the risk when I really wanted a suite. For other stays, knowing that certain properties don't upgrade to the room-type I like, it's easier to just book them on Z3 rates or on points. Of the 15 assigned SNAs, 10 are at hotels which in a combined 115 stays have NEVER not offered a suite. They're probably wasted, but if I don't apply them, they will go totally unused.
Too bad I can't give some away, or trade them for something I CAN use.
BTW, I'll stop talking about this when I finally receive a benefit, instead of something which creates extra thought, takes time, and which has not delivered. I'm not being grumpy. I just feel that this benefit is aimed at a certain kind of traveller - but obviously not at me, and I would enjoy something which was beneficial to me, too.
#1581
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Since hotels seem to get something from SPG for our SNAs, my instinct might be to use some at properties that treat me well, even if I feel confident that I would get a suite upgrade without using the SNA. I'm starting to think about this if it looks like I'll have some expiring SNAs as a sort of thank you to a few properties.
#1582
Join Date: Sep 1999
Location: Charlotte, NC USA
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Just goes to show you - as Lurkers and others have pointed out - you can't necessarily rely on the website for an accurate indication of what's available and what's not. Remember, hotels overbook, receive reservations from dozens of sources/websites/travel agents, and sometimes neglect to update inventory, all of which can distort actual availability.
Cheers,
Cheers,
#1583
Join Date: Mar 2010
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Since hotels seem to get something from SPG for our SNAs, my instinct might be to use some at properties that treat me well, even if I feel confident that I would get a suite upgrade without using the SNA. I'm starting to think about this if it looks like I'll have some expiring SNAs as a sort of thank you to a few properties.
+1
#1584
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Since hotels seem to get something from SPG for our SNAs, my instinct might be to use some at properties that treat me well, even if I feel confident that I would get a suite upgrade without using the SNA. I'm starting to think about this if it looks like I'll have some expiring SNAs as a sort of thank you to a few properties.
Up to now used 2 / 20...
#1585
Join Date: Feb 2006
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Failure
Well...I had my first failure. (Hoping the lurkers can help).
LeMeridien Ra-booked award. SPG couldn't cancel award I had SNA's attached to for 1 1/2 days... Contacted hotel "ONE ROOM" left.
Got SNA's cancelled and back into account. Attached to new award. Contacted hotel. ONE ROOM LEFT-email response. Have my email "we are working on SNA's" BEFORE hotel says ONE ROOM LEFT!
Didn't clear, now website shows no availability!
Emailing lurkers for help! NOT a happy camper.
LeMeridien Ra-booked award. SPG couldn't cancel award I had SNA's attached to for 1 1/2 days... Contacted hotel "ONE ROOM" left.
Got SNA's cancelled and back into account. Attached to new award. Contacted hotel. ONE ROOM LEFT-email response. Have my email "we are working on SNA's" BEFORE hotel says ONE ROOM LEFT!
Didn't clear, now website shows no availability!
Emailing lurkers for help! NOT a happy camper.
#1586
Join Date: Mar 2010
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Well...I had my first failure. (Hoping the lurkers can help).
LeMeridien Ra-booked award. SPG couldn't cancel award I had SNA's attached to for 1 1/2 days... Contacted hotel "ONE ROOM" left.
Got SNA's cancelled and back into account. Attached to new award. Contacted hotel. ONE ROOM LEFT-email response. Have my email "we are working on SNA's" BEFORE hotel says ONE ROOM LEFT!
Didn't clear, now website shows no availability!
Emailing lurkers for help! NOT a happy camper.
LeMeridien Ra-booked award. SPG couldn't cancel award I had SNA's attached to for 1 1/2 days... Contacted hotel "ONE ROOM" left.
Got SNA's cancelled and back into account. Attached to new award. Contacted hotel. ONE ROOM LEFT-email response. Have my email "we are working on SNA's" BEFORE hotel says ONE ROOM LEFT!
Didn't clear, now website shows no availability!
Emailing lurkers for help! NOT a happy camper.
#1587
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: SCL
Programs: UA 1K, LATAM Comodoro, SPG PLT, WOH Globalist, *G, OW Emerald
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My SNA inventory going up, had 6 SNA a month ago now sitting on 9...3 failures in a row in 1 week. Definitively the program doesn't work.
In the past tried to use SNAs on properties I regularly visit (where they usually upgrade me), when reaching the 5 days window got emails from the general managers asking to cancel the SNA because I should use them on other properties ("...we will upgrade you anyway...").
In the past tried to use SNAs on properties I regularly visit (where they usually upgrade me), when reaching the 5 days window got emails from the general managers asking to cancel the SNA because I should use them on other properties ("...we will upgrade you anyway...").
#1588
Join Date: Feb 2013
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My SNA inventory going up, had 6 SNA a month ago now sitting on 9...3 failures in a row in 1 week. Definitively the program doesn't work.
In the past tried to use SNAs on properties I regularly visit (where they usually upgrade me), when reaching the 5 days window got emails from the general managers asking to cancel the SNA because I should use them on other properties ("...we will upgrade you anyway...").
In the past tried to use SNAs on properties I regularly visit (where they usually upgrade me), when reaching the 5 days window got emails from the general managers asking to cancel the SNA because I should use them on other properties ("...we will upgrade you anyway...").
#1589
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i reached out to my ambassador & it turns out that there are select standard suites available during my stay & the property claims that there is a technical glitch which is not allowing the suite nights to go through....they are still looking into this so hopefully i should be able to use them here....
#1590
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Well...I had my first failure. (Hoping the lurkers can help).
LeMeridien Ra-booked award. SPG couldn't cancel award I had SNA's attached to for 1 1/2 days... Contacted hotel "ONE ROOM" left.
Got SNA's cancelled and back into account. Attached to new award. Contacted hotel. ONE ROOM LEFT-email response. Have my email "we are working on SNA's" BEFORE hotel says ONE ROOM LEFT!
Didn't clear, now website shows no availability!
LeMeridien Ra-booked award. SPG couldn't cancel award I had SNA's attached to for 1 1/2 days... Contacted hotel "ONE ROOM" left.
Got SNA's cancelled and back into account. Attached to new award. Contacted hotel. ONE ROOM LEFT-email response. Have my email "we are working on SNA's" BEFORE hotel says ONE ROOM LEFT!
Didn't clear, now website shows no availability!