737 MAX
Oct 16, 2021, 11:08 am
#226
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Former Boeing executive indicted for fraud in 737 Max tragedy
Obviously he's just a fall-guy, I'd be shocked if Boeing execs weren't aware of what he was doing. And if they hadn't promised Southwest that pilots wouldn't need simulator time on the new airframe the situation might have been very different.
Obviously he's just a fall-guy, I'd be shocked if Boeing execs weren't aware of what he was doing. And if they hadn't promised Southwest that pilots wouldn't need simulator time on the new airframe the situation might have been very different.
Oct 16, 2021, 11:51 am
#227
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[Allegedly] leaving a paper trail documenting how he snowed the regulators. He volunteered for "fall guy" duty. Doesn't exonerate Boeing execs.
Good thing he took the buyout.
Good thing he took the buyout.
Oct 19, 2021, 10:11 am
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Oct 19, 2021, 10:31 pm
#231
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How often do planes get swapped? I booked a flight that is not a MAX, and the route does not seem to use MAX planes if I check other days, but I really don't want to fly the MAX. If I see that it's a MAX I will ask to be rebooked on another flight, but I really don't want to have to do that. I am flying Southwest for this flight because I am moving and taking advantage of their baggage policy.
Also, is there anyway to know about a swap other than physically looking at the plane myself?
Also, is there anyway to know about a swap other than physically looking at the plane myself?
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Oct 19, 2021, 10:38 pm
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At this point I'd feel safer on a MAX than most any other plane. No way it would have been recertified if there was any doubt at all.
Oct 19, 2021, 10:45 pm
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Oct 19, 2021, 11:12 pm
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Oct 20, 2021, 8:47 am
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Oct 20, 2021, 12:17 pm
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Oct 20, 2021, 12:43 pm
#237
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Boeing had postponed a brand-new narrow body project for too long. Narrow window getting a product out before the foreign competitor won market domination for the next decade. The FAA also has a lot of skin in all this.
Oct 20, 2021, 3:37 pm
#238
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As soon as people forget, Boeing and the FAA will go back to the status quo again even for the 737 Max. I still don't trust either of them or the 737Max. The longer the 737 Max flies since the return, the more antsy I get that Boeing and FAA will go back to hiding flaws in the 737 Max and other Boeing aircraft especially flaws that won't show for 5+ years. As I said two years ago, I still today trust the Chinese aviation authorities more than the FAA and Boeing when it comes to the safety of ANY Boeing aircraft including the 737Max.
Oct 20, 2021, 4:49 pm
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As soon as people forget, Boeing and the FAA will go back to the status quo again even for the 737 Max. I still don't trust either of them or the 737Max. The longer the 737 Max flies since the return, the more antsy I get that Boeing and FAA will go back to hiding flaws in the 737 Max and other Boeing aircraft especially flaws that won't show for 5+ years. As I said two years ago, I still today trust the Chinese aviation authorities more than the FAA and Boeing when it comes to the safety of ANY Boeing aircraft including the 737Max.
I don't think there is any US airline where you can reliably fly an Airbus.
Perhaps you can fly only regionals if you trust Embraer.
Oct 20, 2021, 6:09 pm
#240
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I don't have a choice that doesn't require jumping through a lot of difficult hooks like many other objectionable things in life such as paying the IRS to fund the US military. I have to pray that the Chinese and whoever else are motivated enough to embarrass Boeing and the US to ensure my safety because I sure don't trust the FAA and Boeing to do that. That's why I don't buy that the 737 Max is the safest plane in the world due to scrutiny. That scrutiny is fading with every passing day. Maybe I'd change my mind on it if a single Boeing C-level executive or FAA C-level executive actually went to jail for it.