RTW on Skyteam?
Oct 23, 2009, 12:24 pm
#407
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Paris, France
Programs: HHonor Diamond, SPG Plat100, HGP Plat, AF Plat, *A G (A3)
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Updated rules for the RTW?
Can anyone please post the latest (full) rules of ticket issuance from one of the booking terminals? Got to learn from the Airfrance lady today that for the business class RTW the booking class is I - which means that you will compete for the (already very limited) award tickets... 
Would help to decide if I issue the RTW with skyteam or with oneworld.
Thanks!
Would help to decide if I issue the RTW with skyteam or with oneworld.
Thanks!
Oct 23, 2009, 12:30 pm
#408
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Oct 23, 2009, 2:56 pm
#409
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Paris, France
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I is the booking class for paid business RTW, on AF flights.
For award ticket, booking codes are : A, O, X for all destinations, E for the Caribbean, the Indian Ocean, and all long-haul flights, R for Elite Awards on long-haul flights, and M for Elite Awards to North America, Papeete
For award ticket, booking codes are : A, O, X for all destinations, E for the Caribbean, the Indian Ocean, and all long-haul flights, R for Elite Awards on long-haul flights, and M for Elite Awards to North America, Papeete
Last edited by leonleonb; Oct 23, 2009 at 3:01 pm Reason: precision
Oct 23, 2009, 3:33 pm
#410
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Rtw booking class on skyteam
First, Business, Economy
Aeroflot C, D, Q
Aeromexico J, D, Q/N
intra Mexico eco S/K
Air Europa I, I, O/X
Air France F, I, V/L (eco intra Europa)
Exception flights AF intra France and between France and TLV
X, X, W
Alitalia J, D, K/V
China Southern D, D, M
CSA Czech Airlines D/Y/C, D/Y/C, H/Q
Delta Air Lines A/D, D, H
Kenya Airways Z, Z, Q
KLM Z/Y, Z/Y, V/Q
exception in europa eco N
Korean Air F/P, C, H
Exception flights KE intra Korea Y
Northwest Z/Y, Z/Y, Q
Aeroflot C, D, Q
Aeromexico J, D, Q/N
intra Mexico eco S/K
Air Europa I, I, O/X
Air France F, I, V/L (eco intra Europa)
Exception flights AF intra France and between France and TLV
X, X, W
Alitalia J, D, K/V
China Southern D, D, M
CSA Czech Airlines D/Y/C, D/Y/C, H/Q
Delta Air Lines A/D, D, H
Kenya Airways Z, Z, Q
KLM Z/Y, Z/Y, V/Q
exception in europa eco N
Korean Air F/P, C, H
Exception flights KE intra Korea Y
Northwest Z/Y, Z/Y, Q
Oct 23, 2009, 3:46 pm
#411
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Paris, France
Programs: HHonor Diamond, SPG Plat100, HGP Plat, AF Plat, *A G (A3)
Posts: 155
I is the booking class for paid business RTW, on AF flights.
For award ticket, booking codes are : A, O, X for all destinations, E for the Caribbean, the Indian Ocean, and all long-haul flights, R for Elite Awards on long-haul flights, and M for Elite Awards to North America, Papeete
For award ticket, booking codes are : A, O, X for all destinations, E for the Caribbean, the Indian Ocean, and all long-haul flights, R for Elite Awards on long-haul flights, and M for Elite Awards to North America, Papeete
Any help with the full rules? Trying to pull together a dream trip here...
Oct 23, 2009, 3:48 pm
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:[KVS Availability Tool 5.1.2/Diamond - DotRes: PAR-PAR/AF/IRTWSKY3/9966 USD]
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ELIGIBILITY : NO ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENTS APPLY. DAY_TIME : NO DAY/TIME TRAVEL RESTRICTIONS APPLY. SEASONALITY : NO SEASONAL TRAVEL RESTRICTIONS APPLY. 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AND THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT BE ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING CZ FLIGHTS 0100 THROUGH 0299 CZ FLIGHTS 0400 THROUGH 0599 CZ FLIGHTS 0700 THROUGH 0999 CZ FLIGHTS 1000 THROUGH 2999 CZ FLIGHTS 4000 THROUGH 5999 CZ FLIGHTS 7000 THROUGH 9999. AND THE FARE COMPONENT MUST BE ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING ANY AF FLIGHT ANY AM FLIGHT ANY AZ FLIGHT ANY CM FLIGHT ANY CO FLIGHT ANY CZ FLIGHT ANY DL FLIGHT ANY KE FLIGHT ANY KL FLIGHT ANY KQ FLIGHT ANY OK FLIGHT ANY NW FLIGHT ANY SU FLIGHT ANY UX FLIGHT. NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING. EXCEPTIONS - TRAVEL MUST INCLUDE ONLY ONE TRANSATLANTIC CROSSING BETWEEN AREA 1 AND AREA 2/ONLY ONE TRANSPACIFIC CROSSING BETWEEN AREA 1 AND AREA 3/ AND ONLY ONE TRANCONTINENTAL CROSSING BETWEEN AREA 2 AND AREA 3 39000 FOR RTWSKY1 FARES 34000 FOR RTWSKY2 FARES 29000 FOR RTWSKY3 FARES 26000 FOR RTWSKY4 FARES -------------- EXCEPT FOR FARES ORIGINATING IN AUSTRALIA / NEW CALEDONIA / NEW ZEALAND / FIDJI / FRENCH POLYNESIA 44000 FOR RTWSKY1 FARES 39000 FOR RTWSKY2 FARES 34000 FOR RTWSKY3 FARES 29000 FOR RTWSKY4 FARES. FOR TICKETING ON/AFTER 25OCT09 THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT BE ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING AF FLIGHTS 4400 THROUGH 4999 AF FLIGHTS 7100 THROUGH 7288 AF FLIGHTS 8000 THROUGH 9999 AM FLIGHTS 3000 THROUGH 4999 AM FLIGHTS 7000 THROUGH 7399 AM FLIGHTS 9120 THROUGH 9121 AM FLIGHTS 9300 THROUGH 9399 AM FLIGHTS 9563 THROUGH 9564 AZ FLIGHTS 2400 THROUGH 3999 AZ FLIGHTS 7000 THROUGH 7999 DL FLIGHTS 2100 THROUGH 3742 DL FLIGHTS 5700 THROUGH 5957 DL FLIGHTS 6493 THROUGH 9999 KE FLIGHTS 5000 THROUGH 5999 KE FLIGHTS 6707 THROUGH 6710 KE FLIGHTS 7000 THROUGH 7999 KL FLIGHTS 2500 THROUGH 2996 KL FLIGHTS 2999 THROUGH 3119 KL FLIGHTS 3130 THROUGH 4349 KL FLIGHTS 7100 THROUGH 7399 KQ FLIGHTS 0490 THROUGH 0491 KQ FLIGHTS 0494 THROUGH 0495 KQ FLIGHTS 1107 THROUGH 1108 KQ FLIGHTS 1534 THROUGH 1535 KQ FLIGHTS 1565 THROUGH 1566 KQ FLIGHTS 6201 THROUGH 6203 KQ FLIGHTS 6721 THROUGH 6741 NW FLIGHTS 4900 THROUGH 5059 NW FLIGHTS 5100 THROUGH 5599 NW FLIGHTS 7400 THROUGH 7699 OK FLIGHTS 3320 THROUGH 3370 OK FLIGHTS 4000 THROUGH 4189 OK FLIGHTS 4192 THROUGH 4625 OK FLIGHTS 4630 THROUGH 4719 OK FLIGHTS 4730 THROUGH 4743 OK FLIGHTS 4770 THROUGH 4999 SU FLIGHTS 0401 THROUGH 0500 SU FLIGHTS 0601 THROUGH 0700 UX FLIGHTS 3000 THROUGH 3999 UX FLIGHTS 017 THROUGH 018. AND THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT BE ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING CZ FLIGHTS 0100 THROUGH 0299 CZ FLIGHTS 0400 THROUGH 0599 CZ FLIGHTS 0700 THROUGH 0999 CZ FLIGHTS 1000 THROUGH 2999 CZ FLIGHTS 4000 THROUGH 5999 CZ FLIGHTS 7000 THROUGH 9999. AND THE FARE COMPONENT MUST BE ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING ANY AF FLIGHT ANY AM FLIGHT ANY AZ FLIGHT ANY CM FLIGHT ANY CO FLIGHT ANY CZ FLIGHT ANY DL FLIGHT ANY KE FLIGHT ANY KL FLIGHT ANY KQ FLIGHT ANY OK FLIGHT ANY NW FLIGHT ANY SU FLIGHT ANY UX FLIGHT. NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING. EXCEPTIONS - TRAVEL MUST INCLUDE ONLY ONE TRANSATLANTIC CROSSING BETWEEN AREA 1 AND AREA 2/ONLY ONE TRANSPACIFIC CROSSING BETWEEN AREA 1 AND AREA 3/ AND ONLY ONE TRANCONTINENTAL CROSSING BETWEEN AREA 2 AND AREA 3 39000 FOR RTWSKY1 FARES 34000 FOR RTWSKY2 FARES 29000 FOR RTWSKY3 FARES 26000 FOR RTWSKY4 FARES -------------- EXCEPT FOR FARES ORIGINATING IN AUSTRALIA / NEW CALEDONIA / NEW ZEALAND / FIDJI / FRENCH POLYNESIA 44000 FOR RTWSKY1 FARES 39000 FOR RTWSKY2 FARES 34000 FOR RTWSKY3 FARES 29000 FOR RTWSKY4 FARES. ADVANCE_RESERVATIONS_TICKETING : RESERVATIONS ARE REQUIRED FOR THE FIRST SECTOR. WHEN RESERVATIONS ARE MADE AT LEAST 100 DAYS BEFORE DEPARTURE, TICKETING MUST BE COMPLETED AT LEAST 93 DAYS BEFORE DEPARTURE. OR - RESERVATIONS ARE REQUIRED FOR THE FIRST SECTOR. WHEN RESERVATIONS ARE MADE AT LEAST 11 DAYS BEFORE DEPARTURE, TICKETING MUST BE COMPLETED WITHIN 7 DAYS AFTER RESERVATIONS ARE MADE OR AT LEAST 10 DAYS BEFORE DEPARTURE WHICHEVER IS EARLIER. OR - RESERVATIONS ON THE FIRST SECTOR ARE REQUIRED AT LEAST 7 DAYS BEFORE DEPARTURE. TICKETING MUST BE COMPLETED WITHIN 72 HOURS AFTER RESERVATIONS ARE MADE OR AT LEAST 7 DAYS BEFORE DEPARTURE WHICHEVER IS EARLIER. NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING. RESERVATION AND TICKET ISSUANCE MUST BE MADE FOR SECTORS UP TO AND INCLUDING THE FIRST INTERNATIONAL SECTOR. OTHER SECTORS MAY BE BOOKED AT ANY TIME. DIFFERENCE COULD EXIST BETWEEN THE CRS LAST TICKETING DATE AND TTL ROBOT REMARK. THE MOST RESTRICTIVE DATE PREVAILS. MINIMUM_STAY : TRAVEL FROM LAST STOPOVER MUST COMMENCE NO EARLIER THAN 10 DAYS AFTER DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY ORIGIN. MAXIMUM_STAY : TRAVEL FROM LAST STOPOVER MUST COMMENCE NO LATER THAN 12 MONTHS AFTER DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY ORIGIN. STOPOVERS : ORIGINATING EUROPE - 3 STOPOVERS REQUIRED AND A MAXIMUM OF 15 PERMITTED 5 IN EUROPE 5 IN UNITED STATES 5 IN AUSTRALIA 3 IN JAPAN 15 AT ANY POINT. NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING. MINIMUM 3 STOPOVERS REQUIRED AND MAXIMUM 15 STOPOVERS PERMITTED APPLICATION OF STOPOVERS - MAXIMUM OF ONE STOPOVER PERMITTED IN ANY ONE CITY. -NOT MORE THAN 5 STOPOVERS PERMITTED WITHIN AUSTRALIA. -NOT MORE THAN 5 STOPOVERS PERMITTED WITHIN CONTINENTAL USA/CANADA. -NOT MORE THAN 3 STOPOVERS PERMITTED WITHIN JAPAN. FOR TRAVEL ORIGINATING AUSTRALIA - STOPOVERS PERMITTED AT AUSTRALIAN INTERNATIONAL GATEWAYS ONLY. FOR TRAVEL ORIGINATING IN EUROPE - NOT MORE THAN 5 STOPOVERS PERMITTED WITHIN EUROPE. FOR TRAVEL ORIGINATING IN PPT - ONE ADDITIONAL STOPOVER IS PERMITTED IN LAX. A FLIGHT COUPON WITHOUT CONFIRMED SPACE CONSTITUTES A STOPOVER. --- THE FOLLOWING POINTS/AIRPORTS SHALL BE CONSIDERED AS ONE CITY -- - NYC/JFK/LGA/EWR - BWI/WAS/IAD/DCA - FLL/MIA/PBI - LAX/ONT/SNA/BUR - SFO/OAK/SJC - OSA/KIX/ITM TRANSFERS : UNLIMITED TRANSFERS PERMITTED ON THE PRICING UNIT. FARE BREAK AND EMBEDDED SURFACE SECTORS PERMITTED ON THE FARE COMPONENT. NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING. --- EXCEPTIONS ONLY 2 TRANSFERS MAY OCCUR AT A SINGLE CITY TWO TRANSFERS ARE PERMITTED IN THE COUNTRY OF ORIGIN EXCEPT FOR TRAVEL ORIGINATING IN USA 4 TRANSFERS ARE PERMITTED. --- SURFACE SECTORS - INTERMEDIATE SURFACE SECTORS PERMITTED AT PASSENGERS EXPENSE. MILEAGE FOR SURFACE SECTORS MUST BE INCLUDED IN THE MAXIMUM PERMITTED MILEAGE CALCULATION. --- SIDE TRIPS TO/FROM NOU -VALID ON AF STOCK ONLY- A SIDE TRIP AT A CHARGE IS PERMITTED ON SB SERVICES BETWEEN NOU AND AKL/BNE/SYD/NAN/PPT. MILEAGE FOR THIS SECTOR MUST BE INCLUDED IN THE MPM CALCULATION. TICKET ON SB SERVICES SHOULD BE ISSUED SEPARATLY IN CONJONCTION WITH THE SKYTEAM RTW TICKET. - FORFAIT - SHOULD APPEAR IN THE FARE AMOUNT BOX FARE BASIS CODE TO BE USED AS FOLLOWS. FARES PUBLISHED IN EUROS TO BE CONVERTED IF NEEDED TO THE CURRENCY OF THE COUNTRY OF ORIGIN AT THE BSR. - RBD ON SB SERVICES D D H DSBRTWOW DSBRTWRT HSBRTWOW NOU-AKL/BNE/SYD/NAN 389 778 167 NOU-PPT 606 1212 261 H HSBRTWRT NOU-AKL/BNE/SYD/NAN 334 NOU-PPT 522 COMBINATIONS : DOUBLE OPEN JAWS/ROUND TRIPS/CIRCLE TRIPS NOT PERMITTED. END-ON-END NOT PERMITTED. ADD-ONS PERMITTED. OPEN JAWS FOR TICKETING ON/BEFORE 24OCT09 FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS -TO FORM SINGLE OPEN JAWS. PROVIDED - COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY FARE FOR CARRIER DL/SU/ UX OR FOR CARRIER KL/AZ/CZ OR FOR CARRIER NW/CO OR FOR CARRIER AF/OK OR FOR CARRIER NW/CM OR FOR CARRIER KE/KQ IN ANY RULE AND TARIFF. OPEN JAWS FOR TICKETING ON/AFTER 25OCT09 FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS -TO FORM SINGLE OPEN JAWS. PROVIDED - COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY FARE FOR CARRIER DL/SU/ UX OR FOR CARRIER KL/AZ/CZ OR FOR CARRIER NW OR FOR CARRIER AF/OK OR FOR CARRIER NW OR FOR CARRIER KE/KQ IN ANY RULE AND TARIFF. BLACKOUT_DATES : NO BLACKOUT DATES APPLY. SURCHARGES : NO SURCHARGE REQUIREMENTS APPLY. ACCOMPANIED_TRAVEL : ACCOMPANIED TRAVEL NOT REQUIRED. TRAVEL_RESTRICTIONS : NO TRAVEL DATE RESTRICTIONS APPLY. SALES_RESTRICTIONS : NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING. ..FOR TICKET ISSED ON/BEFORE 24OCT09.. . . . . . . TICKET MUST BE ISSUED ON AF/AM/AZ/CO/CM/DL/KE/KL/ KQ/NW/OK/SU/UX/CZ STOCK ONLY . --- FARE BASIS CODES SHALL APPLY AS FOLLOWS -- CXR FIRST BUSINESS ECONOMY AF FRTWSKY1/2/3 IRTWSKY1/2/3 VRTWSKY1/2/3 LRTWSKY4 -------------------------------------------------- FOR ISSUANCE ON ANOTHER SKYTEAM CARRIER S STOCK PLEASE CHECK APPROPRIATE CARRIER S RULE. -------------------------------------------------- FARES FOR TRAVEL ORIGINATING IN A COUNTRY FOR WHICH A SPECIFIED LOCAL CURRENCY FARE IS NOT SHOWN WILL BE THE FARE APPLICABLE FROM THE USA CONVERTED TO THE CURRENCY OF THE COUNTRY OF ORIGIN AT THE BANKERS SELLING RATE. --------- THE FARE TO BE PAID SHALL BE THE FARE APPLICABLE FROM THE POINT OF ORIGIN OR THE FARE APPLICABLE FROM THE POINT OF PAYMENT WHICHEVER IS HIGHER. NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING. ..FOR TICKET ISSUED ON/AFTER 25OCT09 . . .............. TICKET MUST BE ISSUED ON AF/AM/AZ/DL/KE/KL/ KQ/NW/OK/SU/UX/CZ STOCK ONLY . --- FARE BASIS CODES SHALL APPLY AS FOLLOWS -- CXR FIRST BUSINESS ECONOMY AF FRTWSKY1/2/3 IRTWSKY1/2/3 VRTWSKY1/2/3 LRTWSKY4 -------------------------------------------------- FOR ISSUANCE ON ANOTHER SKYTEAM CARRIER S STOCK PLEASE CHECK APPROPRIATE CARRIER S RULE. -------------------------------------------------- FARES FOR TRAVEL ORIGINATING IN A COUNTRY FOR WHICH A SPECIFIED LOCAL CURRENCY FARE IS NOT SHOWN WILL BE THE FARE APPLICABLE FROM THE USA CONVERTED TO THE CURRENCY OF THE COUNTRY OF ORIGIN AT THE BANKERS SELLING RATE. --------- THE FARE TO BE PAID SHALL BE THE FARE APPLICABLE FROM THE POINT OF ORIGIN OR THE FARE APPLICABLE FROM THE POINT OF PAYMENT WHICHEVER IS HIGHER. PENALTIES : NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING. CHANGES BEFORE DEPARTURE /A/ BEFORE TICKETING DEADLINE PERMITTED. /B/ AFTER TICKETING DEADLINE NO CHANGES PERMITTED ON THE OUTBOUND SECTOR UP TO AND INCLUDING FIRST INTERCONTINENTAL SECTOR. ALL OTHER SECTORS REBOOKING/REVALIDATION/REROUTING PERMITTED AT A CHARGE OF USD 100/CAD 150 PER TRANSACTION. CHILD/INFANT DISCOUNTS DO NOT APPLY. CHANGE FEE DOES NOT APPLY WHEN CONFIRMING OPEN SEGMENTS. EXCEPTION- IN THE EVENT OF DEATH OF THE PASSENGER AS EVIDENCED BY A CERTIFICATE MEMBERS OF PASSENGERS IMMEDIATE FAMILY OR ACCOMPANYING PASSENGER MAY REROUTE THE REMAINDER OF THE JOURNEY WITHOUT CHARGE. /2/CHANGES AFTER DEPARTURE- NO CHANGES PERMITTED ON REMAINING OUTBOUND SECTORS UP TO AND INCLUDING FIRST INTERCONTINENTAL SECTOR. FOR ALL OTHER SECTORS REBOOKING/REVALIDATION/REROUTING PERMITTED AT A CHARGE OF USD 100/CAD 150 PER TRANSACTION. CHILD/INFANT DISCOUNTS DO NOT APPLY. CHANGE FEE DOES NOT APPLY WHEN CONFIRMING OPEN SEGMENTS. EXCEPTION- IN THE EVENT OF DEATH OF THE PASSENGER AS EVIDENCED BY A CERTIFICATE MEMBERS OF THE PASSENGERS IMMEDIATE FAMILY OR ACCOMPANYING PASSENGER MAY REROUTE THE REMAINDER OF THE JOURNEY WITHOUT CHARGE. GUIDELINES FOR CHANGES- /A/ TPMS MUST BE RECALCULATED FOR THE NEW ROUTING FROM THE POINT OF ORIGIN. IF NEW ROUTING RESULTS IN MILES GREATER THAN MAXIMUM PREMITTED MILES COLLECT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE FARE PAID AND THE NEW APPLICABLE FARE FOR USD 100/CAD 150 PER TRANSACTION. CHILD/INFANT DISCOUNTS DO NOT APPLY. /B/ IF NEW ROUTING RESULTS IN FEWER MILES THAN ORIGINAL PERMITTED MILES THE ORIGINAL FARE STILL APPLIES PLUS A CHARGE OF USD 100/CAD 150 PER TRANSACTION. NO REFUND WILL APPLY. CHILD/INFANT DISCOUNTS DO NOT APPLY. EXCEPTION- IN THE EVENT OF DEATH OF THE PASSENGER AS EVIDENCED BY A CERTIFICATE MEMBERS OF PASSENGERS IMMEDIATE FAMILY OR ACCOMPANYING PASSENGER MAY REROUTE THE REMAINDER OF THE JOURNEY WITHOUT CHARGE. /C/ IF NEW ROUTING IS NO LONGER ROUND-THE-WORLD TRAVEL COLLECT THE DIFFERENCE IF ANY BETWEEN THE FARE PAID AND THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR THE NEW JOURNEY CALCULATED FROM THE POINT OF ORIGIN PLUS A CHARGE OF USD 100/CAD 150 PER TRANSACTION. NO REFUND WILL APPLY IF THE RECALCULATED FARE FOR THE NEW JOURNEY IS LOWER THAN THE ROUND-THE-WORLD FARE PAID. CHILD/INFANT DISCOUNTS DO NOT APPLY. /D/ FOR UPGRADING/REISSUE SEE CREDIT TOWARD FURTHER TRANSPORTATION BELOW. /4/ CANCELLATIONS BEFORE DEPARTURE /A/ BEFORE TICKETING DEADLINE FULL REFUND WILL APPLY. /B/ AFTER TICKETING DEADLINE FOR CANCEL/NON-SHOW/REFUND A FEE OF USD 150/CAD200 WILL APPLY. EXCEPTION- IN THE EVENT OF DEATH OF THE PASSENGER/ FAMILY MEMBER OR AN ACCOMPANYING PASSENGER AS EVIDENCED BY A CERTIFICATE THE NON-REFUNDABLE AMOUNT MAY BE USED AS A CREDIT TOWARDS PAYMENT OF AN EQUIVALENT OR HIGHER APPLICABLE FARE. THE ORIGINAL NON-REFUNDABLE AMOUNT REMAINS NON-REFUNDABLE. CANCELLATIONS AFTER DEPARTURE- REFUND IF ANY WILL BE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE FARE PAID AND THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR THE JOURNEY TRAVELLED. NO REFUND APPLIES WHEN DOWNGRADING FROM A HIGHER ROUND-THE-WORLD FARE TO A LOWER ROUND-THE-WORLD FARE. CREDIT TOWARDS FURTHER TRANSPORTATION- TICKETS MAY BE UPGRADED FROM A LOWER ROUND-THE-WORLD FARE TO A HIGHER ROUND-THE-WORLD FARE UPON PAYMENT OF THE DIFFERENCE IN FARE RECALCULATED FROM THE POINT OF ORIGIN PLUS THE REISSUE CHARGE OF USD 100/ CAD 150. CHILD/INFANT DISCOUNTS DO NOT APPLY. HIP_MILEAGE_EXCEPTIONS : NOTE - HIGHER INTERMEDIATE POINT RULE DOES NOT APPLY. TRAVEL MUST INCLUDE ONLY ONE TRANSATLANTIC CROSSING AND ONLY ONE TRANSPACIFIC CROSSING THE ENTIRE JOURNEY IS SUBJECT TO THE FOLLOWING PERMITTED MILEAGE PER FARE. 39000 FOR RTWSKY1 FARES 34000 FOR RTWSKY2 FARES 29000 FOR RTWSKY3 FARES 26000 FOR RTWSKY4 FARES -------------- EXCEPT FOR FARES ORIGINATING IN AUSTRALIA / NEW CALEDONIA / NEW ZEALAND / FIDJI / FRENCH POLYNESIA 44000 FOR RTWSKY1 FARES 39000 FOR RTWSKY2 FARES 34000 FOR RTWSKY3 FARES 29000 FOR RTWSKY4 FARES. TICKET_ENDORSEMENTS : NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING. ..FOR TICKET ISSUED ON/BEFORE 24OCT09 THE ORIGINAL AND THE REISSUED TICKET MUST BE ANNOTATED IN THE ENDORSEMENT BOX AS FOLLOWS - VALID AF/AM/AZ/CM/CO/CZ/DL/KE/KL/KQ/NW/OK/SU/UX ONLY / NON-REF - - - - - . . FOR TICKET ISSUED ON/AFTER 25OCT09 THE ORIGINAL AND THE REISSUED TICKET MUST BE ANNOTATED IN THE ENDORSEMENT BOX AS FOLLOWS - VALID AF/AM/AZ/CZ/DL/KE/KL/KQ/NW/OK/SU/UX ONLY / NON-REF CHILDREN_DISCOUNTS : CNN/ACCOMPANIED CHILD PSGR 2-11 - CHARGE 75 PERCENT OF THE FARE. TICKETING CODE - BASE FARE CODE PLUS CH. MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN THE SAME COMPARTMENT BY ADULT PSGR 18 OR OLDER. OR - INS/INFANT WITH A SEAT PSGR UNDER 2 - CHARGE 75 PERCENT OF THE FARE. MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN THE SAME COMPARTMENT BY ADULT PSGR 18 OR OLDER. OR - 1ST INF/INFANT WITHOUT A SEAT PSGR UNDER 2 - CHARGE 10 PERCENT OF THE FARE. MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN THE SAME COMPARTMENT BY ADULT PSGR 18 OR OLDER. OR - UNN/UNACCOMPANIED CHILD PSGR 5-11 - CHARGE 75 PERCENT OF THE FARE. TOUR_CONDUCTOR_DISCOUNTS : NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING. TOUR CONDUCTOR DISCOUNTS NOT PERMITTED. AGENT_DISCOUNTS : NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING. AGENT DISCOUNTS NOT PERMITTED ALL_OTHER_DISCOUNTS : NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING. ALL OTHER DISCOUNTS NOT PERMITTED. MISCELLANEOUS_PROVISIONS : NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING. THESE FARES ARE NOT ELIGIBLE FOR SKYPASS FREQUENT FLYER PROGRAM MILEAGE UPGRADES. AND - NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING. THE FARE THAT APPLIES ON THE DATE OF PURCHASE IS ONLY VALID FOR THE ENTIRE ITINERARY AND THE SPECIFIC TRAVEL DATES MENTIONED ON THE TICKET. ANY MODIFICATION MAY REQUIRE THE PAYMENT OF AN ADDITIONAL AMOUNT. FULL AND SEQUENTIAL USE OF FLIGHT COUPONS- THE TICKET/ OR ELECTRONIC TICKET / IS NOT VALID IF THE FIRST COUPON HAS NOT BEEN USED AND WILL NOT BE HONORED IF ALL THE COUPONS ARE NOT USED IN THE SEQUENCE PROVIDED IN THE TICKET / OR ELECTRONIC TICKET / . GROUPS : NO GROUP PROVISIONS APPLY. TOURS : NO TOUR PROVISIONS APPLY. VISIT_ANOTHER_COUNTRY : NO VISIT ANOTHER COUNTRY PROVISIONS APPLY. DEPOSITS : NO DEPOSIT PROVISIONS APPLY. VOLUNTARY_CHANGES : NO VOLUNTARY CHANGES DATA FOUND. RULE_APPLICATION_AND_OTHER_CONDITIONS : SKYTEAM ROUND-THE-WORLD FARE APPLICABLE TO AF FOR JOINT TRANSPORTATION WITH AF/AM/AZ/CO/DL/KE/KL/NW/OK/SU/UX/ CM/KQ/CZ. APPLICATION CLASS OF SERVICE THESE FARES APPLY FOR FIRST/BUSINESS/ECONOMY CLASS SERVICE. TYPES OF TRANSPORTATION FARES GOVERNED BY THIS RULE CAN BE USED TO CREATE ROUND-THE-WORLD JOURNEYS. THESE FARES APPLY FOR ROUND-THE-WORLD TRAVEL TO/FROM THE COUNTRIES SERVED BY THE PARTICIPATING CARRIERS IN THIS RULE. ----------- TRAVEL MUST COMMENCE FROM AND RETURN TO THE SAME COUNTRY.ARE CONSIDERED AS ONE COUNTRY SCANDINAVIA / CANADA AND U.S. / SOUTHWEST PACIFIC / HKG AND CHINA . ----------- ITINERARY MAY REFLECT TRAVEL GREATHER THAN ROUND THE WORLD PROVIDED IT IS NOT VIA THE POINT OF ORIGIN AND STILL TERMINATES IN THE COUNTRY OF ORIGIN. --------------- INTERCONTINENTAL TRAVEL SHALL BE DEFINED AS TRAVEL FROM ONE CONTINENT TO ANOTHER. AFRICA / ASIA / EUROPE / MIDDLE EAST / NORTH AMERICA / SOUTH AMERICA AND SOUTH WEST PACIFIC ARE CONSIDERED SEVEN DIFFERENT CONTINENTS. --------------- TRAVEL BETWEEN POINTS IN CENTRAL AMERICA AND POINTS IN SOUTH AMERICA/NORTH AMERICA/MEXICO SHALL NOT BE CONSIDERED INTERCONTINENTAL TRAVEL. --------------- TRAVEL MUST INCLUDE ONLY ONE TRANSATLANTIC CROSSING BETWEEN AREA 1 AND AREA 2/ONLY ONE TRANSPACIFIC CROSSING BETWEEN AREA 1 AND AREA 3/ AND ONLY ONE TRANCONTINENTAL CROSSING BETWEEN AREA2 AND AREA 3 --------------- FARES ONLY APPLY IF PURCHASED BEFORE DEPARTURE . CAPACITY LIMITATIONS ..FOR TICKET ISSUED ON/BEFORE 24OCT09.. AM/AZ/CO/DL/KE/KL/NW/OK SHALL LIMIT NUMBER OF PASSENGERS CARRIED ON ANY GIVEN FLIGHT AT FARES GOVERNED BY THIS RULE AND SUCH FARES WILL NOT NECESSARILY BE AVAILABLE ON ALL FLIGHTS. THE NUMBER OF SEATS THAT EACH CARRIER SHALL MAKE AVAILABLE ON ANY GIVEN FLIGHT WILL BE DETERMINED BY THE CARRIERS BEST JUDGEMENT. --- ..FOR TICKET ISSUED ON/AFTER 25OCT09... AM/AZ/DL/KE/KL/NW/OK SHALL LIMIT NUMBER OF PASSENGERS CARRIED ON ANY GIVEN FLIGHT AT FARES GOVERNED BY THIS RULE AND SUCH FARES WILL NOT NECESSARILY BE AVAILABLE ON ALL FLIGHTS. THE NUMBER OF SEATS THAT EACH CARRIER SHALL MAKE AVAILABLE ON ANY GIVEN FLIGHT WILL BE DETERMINED BY THE CARRIERS BEST JUDGEMENT. --- ON SECTORS WHERE FIRST/BUSINESS CLASS IS NOT OFFERED/AVAILABLE AT THE TIME OF BOOKING - PASSENGERS WILL BE ACCOMODATED IN THE NEXT LOWER CLASS. NO REFUND WILL APPLY. EXCEPTION - ON SECTORS WITHIN/BETWEEN THE CONTINENTAL U.S./CANADA WHERE BUSINESS CLASS IS NOT OFFERED - PASSENGERS WILL BE ACCOMODATED IN FIRST CLASS SUBJECT TO AVAILABILITY OF SEATS AT THE TIME OF BOOKING AT A SURCHARGE /Q/ OF USD100.00 PER FLIGHT SEGMENT. ----- SKYTEAM ROUND THE WORLD TICKETS MAY BE ISSUED IN CONJUNCTION WITH ONE SKYTEAM EUROPASS AND/OR ONE SKYTEAM AMERICAPASS AND/OR ONE ASIA PASS TICKET ----- A MINIMUM OF 4 AND A MAXIMUM OF 16 FLIGHT SEGMENTS INCLUDING SURFACE SEGMENTS ARE PERMITTED FOR THE ENTIRE JOURNEY . THE FARE THAT APPLIES ON THE DATE OF PURCHASE IS ONLY VALID FOR THE ENTIRE ITINERARY AND THE SPECIFIC TRAVEL DATES MENTIONED ON THE TICKET. ANY MODIFICATION MAY REQUIRE THE PAYMENT OF AN ADDITIONAL AMOUNT. FULL AND SEQUENTIAL USE OF FLIGHT COUPONS- THE TICKET/ OR ELECTRONIC TICKET / IS NOT VALID IF THE FIRST COUPON HAS NOT BEEN USED AND WILL NOT BE HONORED IF ALL THE COUPONS ARE NOT USED IN THE SEQUENCE PROVIDED IN THE TICKET / OR ELECTRONIC TICKET / .
Oct 24, 2009, 11:38 am
#413
Join Date: Apr 2005
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Many thanks!
Thanks a lot for the very helpful information. It must be my subconscience to have forgotten that CO and CM are leaving skyteam. It is becoming almost impossible to route anything through LatAm! 
Oct 25, 2009, 10:58 am
#414
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Delta must serve ~35 of Copa's 45 destinations non-stop from ATL, plus half a dozen others.
http://delta.innosked.com/
Oct 30, 2009, 5:06 am
#415
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: AMS>GRU/GIG
Programs: KL/AF Platinum
Posts: 1,417
Could anyone help me with the RTW fares ex-Switzerland (Geneva-GVA)?
Another question, under RTW rules, is it possible to fly from Europe to Africa and then back to Europe? For example, AMS-NBO-CDG and then continue to Asia/South America? AMS-NBO-CDG-GRU, etc?
Thanks a lot.
Rgs,
Another question, under RTW rules, is it possible to fly from Europe to Africa and then back to Europe? For example, AMS-NBO-CDG and then continue to Asia/South America? AMS-NBO-CDG-GRU, etc?
Thanks a lot.
Rgs,
Last edited by hardiwv; Oct 30, 2009 at 6:09 am
Nov 1, 2009, 8:12 am
#416
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Paris, France
Programs: Flying Blue Platinum
Posts: 198
DIM 10 janv 2010 | RTW | Economy
Carrier From To Fare Cur Fare Basis
--------- ------ ---- -------- ---- -------- --- -- ----------
AF GVA GVA 2655 EUR LRTWSKY4
AF GVA GVA 3118 EUR VRTWSKY3
AF GVA GVA 3712 EUR VRTWSKY2
AF GVA GVA 4240 EUR VRTWSKY1
DIM 10 janv 2010 | RTW | Business
Carrier From To Fare Cur Fare Basis
--------- ------ ---- -------- ---- -------- --- -- ----------
KL GVA GVA 6894 EUR CRTWSKY3
KL GVA GVA 7819 EUR CRTWSKY2
KL GVA GVA 9141 EUR CRTWSKY1
DIM 10 janv 2010 | RTW | First
Carrier From To Fare Cur Fare Basis
--------- ------ ---- -------- ---- -------- --- -- ----------
AF GVA GVA 12336 EUR FRTWSKY3
AF GVA GVA 13922 EUR FRTWSKY2
AF GVA GVA 16235 EUR FRTWSKY1
For the question of the routing, I think it is allowed, because Africa is in the same area 2. But I am not 100%: the best is to phone to AF
Agence Air France
GENEVE
Agence l'aroport
GENEVA
Cointrin
Ouverture
Lu, Ma, Me, Je, Ve, Sa, Di : 06:00 - 20:30
Fax : 022 827 87 81
Rservation : 0 848 747 100
Carrier From To Fare Cur Fare Basis
--------- ------ ---- -------- ---- -------- --- -- ----------
AF GVA GVA 2655 EUR LRTWSKY4
AF GVA GVA 3118 EUR VRTWSKY3
AF GVA GVA 3712 EUR VRTWSKY2
AF GVA GVA 4240 EUR VRTWSKY1
DIM 10 janv 2010 | RTW | Business
Carrier From To Fare Cur Fare Basis
--------- ------ ---- -------- ---- -------- --- -- ----------
KL GVA GVA 6894 EUR CRTWSKY3
KL GVA GVA 7819 EUR CRTWSKY2
KL GVA GVA 9141 EUR CRTWSKY1
DIM 10 janv 2010 | RTW | First
Carrier From To Fare Cur Fare Basis
--------- ------ ---- -------- ---- -------- --- -- ----------
AF GVA GVA 12336 EUR FRTWSKY3
AF GVA GVA 13922 EUR FRTWSKY2
AF GVA GVA 16235 EUR FRTWSKY1
For the question of the routing, I think it is allowed, because Africa is in the same area 2. But I am not 100%: the best is to phone to AF
Agence Air France
GENEVE
Agence l'aroport
GENEVA
Cointrin
Ouverture
Lu, Ma, Me, Je, Ve, Sa, Di : 06:00 - 20:30
Fax : 022 827 87 81
Rservation : 0 848 747 100
Nov 9, 2009, 8:59 pm
#417
Join Date: Nov 2006
Programs: UA/1k
Posts: 129
new fares?
shoot, looks like they've loaded new (very expensive) fares for RTW tickets. Strangely enough, KL seems to not have updated ex-ICN, but they refuse to sell me a ticket where the first flight is not on KL metal. Strange, since that's not in the rules ...YRTWSKY4 KL Q Round-Trip 2431.00(USD) E 10 / 12M
YRTWSKY3 KL Q Round-Trip 2696.00(USD) E 10 / 12M
YRTWSKY2 KL Q Round-Trip 3100.00(USD) E 10 / 12M
URTWSKY4 DL U Round-Trip 3161.00(USD) E -- / 12M
YRTWSKY1 KL Q Round-Trip 3639.00(USD) E 10 / 12M
LRTWSKY3 DL L Round-Trip 3750.00(USD) E -- / 12M
LRTWSKY2 DL L Round-Trip 4425.00(USD) E -- / 12M
CRTWSKY3 KL Z Round-Trip 4792.00(USD) B 10 / 12M
LRTWSKY1 DL L Round-Trip 5099.00(USD) E -- / 12M
CRTWSKY2 KL Z Round-Trip 5511.00(USD) B 10 / 12M
CRTWSKY1 KL Z Round-Trip 6470.00(USD) B 10 / 12M
IRTWSKY3 DL I Round-Trip 7122.00(USD) B -- / 12M
IRTWSKY2 DL I Round-Trip 8386.00(USD) B -- / 12M
IRTWSKY1 DL I Round-Trip 9650.00(USD) B -- / 12M
ARTWSKY3 DL A Round-Trip 11336.00(USD) F -- / 12M
ARTWSKY2 DL A Round-Trip 13021.00(USD) F -- / 12M
ARTWSKY1 DL A Round-Trip 14707.00(USD) F -- / 12M
Nov 9, 2009, 9:24 pm
#418
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Not surprising considering OW have also just raised theirs (discussion at the end of this thread - http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/onewo...ricing-up.html) and I think *A did earlier this year.
Nov 9, 2009, 9:32 pm
#419
Join Date: Nov 2006
Programs: UA/1k
Posts: 129
Not surprising considering OW have also just raised theirs (discussion at the end of this thread - http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/onewo...ricing-up.html) and I think *A did earlier this year.
Nov 9, 2009, 10:03 pm
#420
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Location: SYD
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Posts: 1,741
True, though really annoying as I was just about to book one of these tickets. I'm now thinking about switching to another group, since I think *A has way more of the real lie-flat seats on biz, and if it's the same price, then perhaps I ought to get one of those. Thoughts?