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Old May 5, 2008, 1:15 am
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Best fare from JNB
Buy on Continental in South Africa!
[KVS Availability Tool 3.1.0/Platinum - Sabre: Fares/ZUJ/SG/EUR]
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JNB  Johannesburg Int'l ZA [FAJS]
JNB  Johannesburg Int'l ZA [FAJS]
RT   May-Apr

Carrier   From   To   Fare      Cur  Expiry    Min  Max  Fare Basis
--------- ------ ---- --------- ---- --------- ---- ---- ---------- 
CO        JNB    JNB     1496   EUR             10  12M  YRWWJ25
CO        JNB    JNB     1496   EUR             10  12M  YRTWSKY4
CO        JNB    JNB     1667   EUR             10  12M  YRTWSKY3
CO        JNB    JNB     1667   EUR             10  12M  YRWWJ30
CO        JNB    JNB     1916   EUR             10  12M  YRTWSKY2
CO        JNB    JNB     1916   EUR             10  12M  YRWWJ35
CO        JNB    JNB     2250   EUR             10  12M  YRWWJ40
CO        JNB    JNB     2250   EUR             10  12M  YRTWSKY1
CO        JNB    JNB     3623   EUR             10  12M  CRTWSKY3
CO        JNB    JNB     3623   EUR             10  12M  CRWWJ30
CO        JNB    JNB     4166   EUR             10  12M  CRWWJ35
CO        JNB    JNB     4166   EUR             10  12M  CRTWSKY2
CO        JNB    JNB     4895   EUR             10  12M  CRTWSKY1
CO        JNB    JNB     4895   EUR             10  12M  CRWWJ40
CO        JNB    JNB     4920   EUR             10  12M  FRTWSKY3
CO        JNB    JNB     5659   EUR             10  12M  FRTWSKY2
CO        JNB    JNB     6642   EUR             10  12M  FRTWSKY1
In France CO / FRTWSKY1 (39000 miles in First ) 12582 EUR ...≈+90%
In France CO / CRTWSKY3 (29000 miles in Business ) 5764 EUR...≈ +60%
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Old May 8, 2008, 11:06 am
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As mentionned in the RTW rules:

"THE FARE TO BE PAID SHALL BE THE FARE APPLICABLE FROM THE POINT
OF ORIGIN OR THE FARE APPLICABLE FROM THE POINT OF PAYMENT WHICHEVER
IS HIGHER."

What does it mean precisely?
Can I buy a ticket in France, even to begin the journey from JNB where it seems to be 40% lower or should I buy it in South Africa?
Thank you.
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Old May 8, 2008, 11:17 am
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Originally Posted by delanotre
As mentionned in the RTW rules:

"THE FARE TO BE PAID SHALL BE THE FARE APPLICABLE FROM THE POINT
OF ORIGIN OR THE FARE APPLICABLE FROM THE POINT OF PAYMENT WHICHEVER
IS HIGHER."

What does it mean precisely?
Can I buy a ticket in France, even to begin the journey from JNB where it seems to be 40% lower or should I buy it in South Africa?
Thank you.
It means that you'll pay the France price if you have it ticketed in France ("point of payment"), even if you are initiating the travel from JNB ("point of origin") since the France price is higher. Your best bet would be to have it ticketed in JNB and pay for it there, either on a seperate trip or through a reputable travel agency.
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Old May 13, 2008, 9:58 pm
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Hi guys, Im absolutely new on RTW fares and Skyteam. I'd read most of the threads but still no clear to me which are the current cheapest cities in Asia to buy a RTW in C. Can anyone help me with that?
Also I thought that Malta was the cheapest place to start the RTW in Europe but gnopps list shows ZAG. (As you can see Im not sure yet where to start)
Well, any help is very welcome.
Thanks!!
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Old May 21, 2008, 10:21 am
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I am interested in purchasing a RTW ticket in Business. Would it be cheaper to start from the United States or from Panama (PTY)?

Where can I find pricing information?

Furthermore, does anyone have tips/suggestions on the best airline/travel agency to call for RTW tickets?
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Old May 22, 2008, 11:27 am
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Has anyone flown out of Malta? Are the prices departing from Malta still the cheapest?

Appreciate and help
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Old May 22, 2008, 1:16 pm
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Originally Posted by CO Platinum
I am interested in purchasing a RTW ticket in Business. Would it be cheaper to start from the United States or from Panama (PTY)?

Where can I find pricing information?

Furthermore, does anyone have tips/suggestions on the best airline/travel agency to call for RTW tickets?
I get pricing from the KVS tool. It is a paid service, so that may be an issue. From PTY a J RTW is ~$8,000 on all the SkyTeam carriers. The price looks the same from the USA. (These prices are CRTWSKY1 fares; more miles travelled = more $$.)

I would just book with one of the airlines unless you have a travel agent you really like. I don't know that any one is better than others to book with, though a US-based carrier is less likely to add fuel surcharges.

Originally Posted by JoelDW
Has anyone flown out of Malta? Are the prices departing from Malta still the cheapest?

Appreciate and help
I don't see a CRTWSKY1 form MLA; I do see a KQ CRTWSKY2 for ~$9K. A Coach RTW looks to be ~$3K at the bottom range, but more likely ~$3750.
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Old May 30, 2008, 6:34 pm
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Someone asked this on the star alliance forum, but I am also curious for a rtw do you have to plan the entire trip with all stops in advance, OR can you just buy the ticket with the first segment stated, and then book each additional segment as you go?
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Old May 30, 2008, 6:46 pm
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Where to buy RTW tickets
I'm not an expert on this, but there are some guides out there that tell you the cheapest country to buy tickets from. CMB, BKK, MNL used to be the cheapest, but I'm unsure if that's still the case. I'd search FT for a database that lists the cheapest country to buy from.

Doing a quick EF look, I see a AM JRTWSKY3 award for $4791+ out of CMB. Having KVS or EF helps considerably, of course.
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Old Jun 15, 2008, 7:10 pm
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how difficult is it to redeen RTW awards tickets? Given that it seems airlines are reducing awards seats should I be worried?
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Old Jun 15, 2008, 8:00 pm
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Originally Posted by 2stepsbehind
how difficult is it to redeen RTW awards tickets? Given that it seems airlines are reducing awards seats should I be worried?
I had very few problems booking mine, but that was 2 years ago and I was pretty flexible on routings and destinations. Having top tier elite status will generally get you free changes - something I took advantage of a lot to optimize routing/destinations - but otherwise availability is what it is. It may be good and it may not be, depending on the route and the carrier(s) available.

Good luck!
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Old Jun 17, 2008, 11:11 am
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I too am wondering where is the cheapest place to buy a ST RTW now. Malta? Cairo? Johannesburg? All are doable for me.
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Old Jun 17, 2008, 1:02 pm
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I too am wondering where is the cheapest place to buy a ST RTW now. Malta? Cairo? Johannesburg? All are doable for me.
Of those three it looks like JNB is the way to go:
[KVS Availability Tool 3.1.2/Platinum - Sabre: Fares/ZUJ/SG]
Code:
MLA  Malta Luqa MT [LMML]
MLA  Malta Luqa MT [LMML]
RTW  Jun-May

Carrier   From   To   Fare      Cur  Expiry    Min  Max  Fare Basis
--------- ------ ---- --------- ---- --------- ---- ---- ---------- 
KQ        MLA    MLA     3910   USD             10  12M  YRWWJ25
NW        MLA    MLA     3910   USD             10  12M  YRWWJ25
KL        MLA    MLA     3910   USD             10  12M  YRWWJ25
DL        MLA    MLA     3910   USD                 12M  URTWSKY4
CO        MLA    MLA     3910   USD             10  12M  YRWWJ25
KQ        MLA    MLA     3998   USD             10  12M  YRTWSKY3


Carrier   From   To   Fare      Cur  Expiry    Min  Max  Fare Basis
--------- ------ ---- --------- ---- --------- ---- ---- ---------- 
KQ        MLA    MLA     9085   USD             10  12M  CRTWSKY3
KQ        MLA    MLA     9604   USD             10  12M  CRWWJ30
NW        MLA    MLA     9604   USD             10  12M  CRWWJ30
MH        MLA    MLA     9604   USD             10  12M  CRWWJ30
DL        MLA    MLA     9604   USD                 12M  IRTWSKY3
CO        MLA    MLA     9604   USD             10  12M  CRWWJ30
KL        MLA    MLA     9604   USD             10  12M  CRWWJ30
KQ        MLA    MLA    10537   USD             10  12M  CRTWSKY2
NW        MLA    MLA    10825   USD             10  12M  CRWWJ35
KQ        MLA    MLA    10825   USD             10  12M  CRWWJ35
CO        MLA    MLA    10825   USD             10  12M  CRWWJ35
DL        MLA    MLA    10825   USD                 12M  IRTWSKY2
KL        MLA    MLA    10825   USD             10  12M  CRWWJ35


Carrier   From   To   Fare      Cur  Expiry    Min  Max  Fare Basis
--------- ------ ---- --------- ---- --------- ---- ---- ---------- 
DL        MLA    MLA    17964   USD                 12M  ARTWSKY3
DL        MLA    MLA    20194   USD                 12M  ARTWSKY2


[KVS Availability Tool 3.1.2/Platinum - Sabre: Fares/ZUJ/SG]
Code:
CAI  Cairo Int'l EG [HECA]
CAI  Cairo Int'l EG [HECA]
RTW  Jun-May

Carrier   From   To   Fare      Cur  Expiry    Min  Max  Fare Basis
--------- ------ ---- --------- ---- --------- ---- ---- ---------- 
KQ        CAI    CAI     3359   USD             10  12M  YRTWSKY3
KQ        CAI    CAI     3861   USD             10  12M  YRWWJ30
KL        CAI    CAI     3861   USD             10  12M  YRTWSKY3
KL        CAI    CAI     3861   USD             10  12M  YRWWJ30
OK        CAI    CAI     3861   USD             10  12M  QRTWSKY3
NW        CAI    CAI     3861   USD             10  12M  YRWWJ30
NW        CAI    CAI     3861   USD             10  12M  YRTWSKY3
AF        CAI    CAI     3861   USD             10  12M  VRTWSKY3
CO        CAI    CAI     3861   USD             10  12M  YRTWSKY3
CO        CAI    CAI     3861   USD             10  12M  YRWWJ30
AZ        CAI    CAI     3861   USD             10  12M  KRWSKY3
KE        CAI    CAI     3861   USD             10  12M  YRTWSKY3
DL        CAI    CAI     3861   USD                 12M  LRTWSKY3


Carrier   From   To   Fare      Cur  Expiry    Min  Max  Fare Basis
--------- ------ ---- --------- ---- --------- ---- ---- ------------- 
KQ        CAI    CAI     7578   USD             10  12M  CRTWSKY3
KQ        CAI    CAI     8581   USD             10  12M  CRWWJ30
KL        CAI    CAI     8581   USD             10  12M  CRTWSKY3
KL        CAI    CAI     8581   USD             10  12M  CRWWJ30
NW        CAI    CAI     8581   USD             10  12M  CRWWJ30
NW        CAI    CAI     8581   USD             10  12M  CRTWSKY3
OK        CAI    CAI     8581   USD             10  12M  DRTWSKY3
KE        CAI    CAI     8581   USD             10  12M  CRTWSKY3
AZ        CAI    CAI     8581   USD             10  12M  DRWSKY3
CO        CAI    CAI     8581   USD             10  12M  CRTWSKY3
AF        CAI    CAI     8581   USD             10  12M  IRTWSKY3
DL        CAI    CAI     8581   USD                 12M  IRTWSKY3
CO        CAI    CAI     8581   USD             10  12M  CRWWJ30
KQ        CAI    CAI     8736   USD             10  12M  CRTWSKY2




Carrier   From   To   Fare      Cur  Expiry    Min  Max  Fare Basis
--------- ------ ---- --------- ---- --------- ---- ---- ------------- 
NW        CAI    CAI    10700   USD             10  12M  FRTWSKY3
KL        CAI    CAI    10700   USD             10  12M  FRTWSKY3
CO        CAI    CAI    10700   USD             10  12M  FRTWSKY3
NW        CAI    CAI    12515   USD             10  12M  FRTWSKY2
KL        CAI    CAI    12515   USD             10  12M  FRTWSKY2
CO        CAI    CAI    12515   USD             10  12M  FRTWSKY2
KL        CAI    CAI    14701   USD             10  12M  FRTWSKY1
NW        CAI    CAI    14701   USD             10  12M  FRTWSKY1
CO        CAI    CAI    14701   USD             10  12M  FRTWSKY1
OK        CAI    CAI    16295   USD             10  12M  FRTWSKY3
KE        CAI    CAI    16295   USD             10  12M  FRTWSKY3
DL        CAI    CAI    16295   USD                 12M  ARTWSKY3
AF        CAI    CAI    16295   USD             10  12M  FRTWSKY3

[KVS Availability Tool 3.1.2/Platinum - Sabre: Fares/ZUJ/SG]
Code:
JNB  Johannesburg Int'l ZA [FAJS]
JNB  Johannesburg Int'l ZA [FAJS]
RTW  Jun-May

Carrier   From   To   Fare      Cur  Expiry    Min  Max  Fare Basis
--------- ------ ---- --------- ---- --------- ---- ---- ---------- 
KQ        JNB    JNB     2441   USD             10  12M  YRTWSKY3
KQ        JNB    JNB     2666   USD             10  12M  YRWWJ25
NW        JNB    JNB     2666   USD             10  12M  YRTWSKY4
NW        JNB    JNB     2666   USD             10  12M  YRWWJ25
KL        JNB    JNB     2666   USD             10  12M  YRWWJ25
CO        JNB    JNB     2666   USD             10  12M  YRTWSKY4
CO        JNB    JNB     2666   USD             10  12M  YRWWJ25
KL        JNB    JNB     2666   USD             10  12M  YRTWSKY4
AF        JNB    JNB     2667   USD             10  12M  LRTWSKY4


Carrier   From   To   Fare      Cur  Expiry    Min  Max  Fare Basis
--------- ------ ---- --------- ---- --------- ---- ---- ---------- 
KQ        JNB    JNB     5304   USD             10  12M  CRTWSKY3
KQ        JNB    JNB     6098   USD             10  12M  CRTWSKY2
KQ        JNB    JNB     6256   USD             10  12M  CRWWJ30
NW        JNB    JNB     6256   USD             10  12M  CRWWJ30
NW        JNB    JNB     6256   USD             10  12M  CRTWSKY3
CO        JNB    JNB     6256   USD             10  12M  CRTWSKY3
CO        JNB    JNB     6256   USD             10  12M  CRWWJ30
KL        JNB    JNB     6256   USD             10  12M  CRTWSKY3
KL        JNB    JNB     6256   USD             10  12M  CRWWJ30
KE        JNB    JNB     6258   USD             10  12M  CRTWSKY3
AF        JNB    JNB     6258   USD             10  12M  IRTWSKY3
DL        JNB    JNB     6258   USD                 12M  IRTWSKY3


Carrier   From   To   Fare      Cur  Expiry    Min  Max  Fare Basis
--------- ------ ---- --------- ---- --------- ---- ---- ---------- 
NW        JNB    JNB     7202   USD             10  12M  FRTWSKY3
CO        JNB    JNB     7202   USD             10  12M  FRTWSKY3
KL        JNB    JNB     7202   USD             10  12M  FRTWSKY3
NW        JNB    JNB     8284   USD             10  12M  FRTWSKY2
KL        JNB    JNB     8284   USD             10  12M  FRTWSKY2
CO        JNB    JNB     8284   USD             10  12M  FRTWSKY2
NW        JNB    JNB     9723   USD             10  12M  FRTWSKY1
KL        JNB    JNB     9723   USD             10  12M  FRTWSKY1
CO        JNB    JNB     9723   USD             10  12M  FRTWSKY1
KE        JNB    JNB    10229   USD             10  12M  FRTWSKY3
DL        JNB    JNB    10229   USD                 12M  ARTWSKY3
AF        JNB    JNB    10229   USD             10  12M  FRTWSKY3
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Old Jun 17, 2008, 1:29 pm
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Thanks very much. I vaguely recall that Y-RTW's don't earn full mileage and EQM's on some airlines like KE. Is that still the case?
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Old Jun 17, 2008, 1:55 pm
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Thanks very much. I vaguely recall that Y-RTW's don't earn full mileage and EQM's on some airlines like KE. Is that still the case?
You have to check the rules for which fare class they book in to on the various carriers and then figure out what your earnings would be on your home carrier for those fares. I do not see the specific booking classes in the CO rules that I just read through, but I do know that some carriers book in to lower fare classes for the Y RTWs so caution would be wise.

I also just noticed this in the rules:
3. EFFECTIVE FOR TICKETS ISSUED ON/AFTER 01JUN08- A MAXIMUM OF 16 COUPONS IS ALLOWED PER JOURNEY REGARDLESS OF ANY REROUTING WHICH MAY OCCUR.
This is somewhat limiting, though not really all that terrible unless you are REALLY maximizing your RTW trips.
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