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Old Nov 6, 2016, 10:26 pm
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Common which ffp thread Which Frequent Flyer Program to Join? Help Is Here!
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1. What is most important to you in a frequent flyer program (FFP)?
upgrades, priority services, baggage allowance, good award redemption rates, better award access, lounge access, etc.
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2. How many miles do you usually fly each year? How many flights/sectors?
less than 25000 miles, 50000+ miles and 20-25 flights, etc.
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3. What fare class do you usually buy?
first, business, premium economy, economy
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4. Are you able to choose your airlines and/or class of service? Do you travel for work and/or pleasure?
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5. Which routes do you fly most often?
transatlantic, domestic USA, intra-Asia, etc.
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6. What is your home airport?
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7. Do you have status in any FFP? What is it? How miles do you have banked in each FFP, if any?
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8. What are your preferred airlines, if any?
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Old Jun 25, 2023, 7:13 am
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Thanks a lot,

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Old Jul 3, 2023, 4:13 am
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Originally Posted by shuly

1. What is most important to you in a frequent flyer program (FFP)?
>>> Reply: The benefits of status when flying Y (INOPS, upgrades, lounges, FastTrack, etc.) Good rate of earning miles and good opportunities to use them (especially for companion tickets).
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In case you go with AFKL Flying blue , beware they have revenue-based earnings when flying with AF or KL , while flights with other airlines or partners are still distance based

Awards rates are now dynamic, and rates increased significantly during last year and a half , but you can still find many sweet spots

Originally Posted by shuly
2. How many miles do you usually fly each year? How many flights/sectors?
>>> Reply: Typically 2 long (transatlantic or Asia) trips plus 4-6 short (Europe) trips per year. Anything longer than 4 hours is usually in business.

3. What fare class do you usually buy?
>>> Reply: Business except the shortest routes. Not necessarily refundable.
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With such pattern , you will quickly reach silver , for gold i think it might be enough also

Originally Posted by shuly
5. Which routes do you fly most often?
>>> Reply: TLV to Europe

6. What is your home airport?
>>> Reply: TLV
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You are lucky as TLV is slightly over 2000 miles away from CDG , so your CDG-TLV will be under long 1 section of the XP charts, but in the meantime TLV is also considered as europe for awards redemption (if i am correct)

Originally Posted by shuly
I plan to try to status match, I believe I can get Delta Platinum, don't know about Flying Blue.​​​​​​​
i dont think FB does status match at the moment
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Old Aug 20, 2023, 3:28 am
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Hi
I am a Flying Blue Platinum member (AF/KLM) with enough XP to become a lifetime member.
Are there other Sky Team airlines with which I could become a frequent flyer to get a better yield(including any perks that I do not currently have ) for my airmiles
I normally travel Business class with Aeromexico /AF and KLM.
Any advice you can give would be welcome.
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Old Aug 25, 2023, 12:02 pm
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Having attempted my own research and thoroughly confused myself, thought I’d reach out to the experts. Currently BAEC gold, already have flights booked to secure BA GGL next year, spreading my wings, so to speak.

1. What is most important to you in a frequent flyer program (FFP)?
upgrades, priority services, baggage allowance, good award redemption rates, better award access, lounge access, etc.
>>> priority services, lounge access, seat selection etc.. journey enhancing aspects

2. How many miles do you usually fly each year? How many flights/sectors?
less than 25000 miles, 50000+ miles and 20-25 flights, etc.
>>> Reply: 50+ flights, predominantly intra-europe. Flown 24 segments since march, have 40 segments booked through to next march.

3. What fare class do you usually buy?
first, business, premium economy, economy
>>> Reply: Business

4. Are you able to choose your airlines and/or class of service? Do you travel for work and/or pleasure?
>>> Reply: Yes, leisure only.

5. Which routes do you fly most often?
transatlantic, domestic USA, intra-Asia, etc.
>>> Reply: Intra-europe

6. What is your home airport?
>>> Reply: Newcastle NCL

7. Do you have status in any FFP? What is it? How miles do you have banked in each FFP, if any?
>>> Reply: BA, many many avios. No others.

8. What are your preferred airlines, if any?
>>> Reply: None
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Old Sep 14, 2023, 2:10 am
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Originally Posted by john1987
Hi
I am a Flying Blue Platinum member (AF/KLM) with enough XP to become a lifetime member.
Are there other Sky Team airlines with which I could become a frequent flyer to get a better yield(including any perks that I do not currently have ) for my airmiles
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Not really , you would be better looking for a FFP in star alliance as an alternative in case skyteam doesnt not match your criterias

Originally Posted by JapesUK

5. Which routes do you fly most often?
transatlantic, domestic USA, intra-Asia, etc.
>>> Reply: Intra-europe

6. What is your home airport?
>>> Reply: Newcastle NCL
Your best shot would be flying blue due to your location ; as KL and maybe AF fly there

based on your plans you might be able to reach gold until you need to requalify for BA FFP
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Old Sep 21, 2023, 7:43 am
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Hello all,

- Will Fly 4 or 5 short segments in a year (mostly 1 hour to 3 hours duration segments in Central America or Asia) on Sky Team (either AM or VN).
(Will be using Skyteam in these cases only due to schedule / convenience).

- Segments will be in business
- SkyTeam flights will not be from home in Texas.

NO skyteam status whatsoever. However, do have status in Star A and OneWorld.

Goal is to not waste the mileage earned. ANd use the miles somehow in the next couple of years for a short hop somewhere.

In this case - Does it make sense to credit all these segments to AM?? (I think they are also a "dollar-spend" based program)

I know DL set their program on fire recently

Do not know anything about VN's program.

ANy suggestions welcome.
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Old Jan 13, 2024, 12:24 pm
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Advice between KLM flying blue and Virgin

1. What is most important to you in a frequent flyer program (FFP)?
Airmiles redemption and upgrades
>>> Reply:

2. How many miles do you usually fly each year? How many flights/sectors?
18 European return flights (typically two legs per flight) 6 long haul return across most continents
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3. What fare class do you usually buy?
Europe in economy, rest of world (long haul) business class


4. Are you able to choose your airlines and/or class of service? Do you travel for work and/or pleasure? Yes. Theses will be work. I will then look to use airmiles etc for flights or to book holidays with the family.


5. Which routes do you fly most often?
Europe and US long haul


6. What is your home airport?
Norwich (15 mins from house) May occasionally use London airports (2 to 4 hours in car)

7. Do you have status in any FFP? What is it? How miles do you have banked in each FFP, if any?
Utilise virgin credit card and get circa 30000 points an annum which can unlock flight benefits and virgin holidays.

8. What are your preferred airlines, if any?
KLM as four flights a day to AMS from NWI to then connect. Also enjoy Virgin. I do have BA bronze status but no options from Norwich.

Given nearly all my flights will be with KLM, but I may use Virgin more for holidays and I have their credit card, am I best to use? Or are the surcharges too high? Also which flights will generate the most miles/tiers. I believe Virgin class each leg as tier points but KLM don’t? But KLM seem to have alot cheaper taxes for airmiles….so I’ve no clue what’s best given all my flights will be with KLM? But virgin seem to have better rewards.
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Old Jan 23, 2024, 2:23 am
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Originally Posted by Dentos
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For me, the days of trying to find sweet spots in frequent flyer programs is over. I think its best to choose the program on the airline you will fly most, so that the benefits of points and status can most directly be used (and as the programs are devalued / enhanced, the airline you fly on the most still will deem you valuable).

In my case, I've read Flying Blue is the best program in Skyteam for redemptions but because my Skyteam travel is mainly in the US, I use Delta Skymiles for the direct benefits (free checked bag, early boarding, miles for upgrades).
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