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Old Oct 1, 2008, 2:20 pm
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Originally Posted by RTW4
One definitely can begin at JFK.. I am doing it.. JFK-FRA-SIN-NRT-LAX.. perfectly OK.. Dont let the agent tell you otherwise...
I can confirm this as well. I booked JFK-FRA-SIN-HKG-SFO successfully last month.
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Old Oct 1, 2008, 2:24 pm
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Originally Posted by rolov
No EWR-SIN or LAX SIN Non Stop allowed :

[FLIGHT APPLICATION]
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT BE ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING SQ FLIGHTS
0021 THROUGH 0022 SQ FLIGHTS 0037 THROUGH 0038 SQ FLIGHTS
1000 THROUGH
7999 SQ FLIGHTS 9000 THROUGH 9999. NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED
FOR AUTOPRICING. TRAVEL ON SQ A345 NOT PERMITTED.
Does this only apply to business class RTW? (I presume they'll let you take the A345 nonstops in C if you pay the F RTW fare?)
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Old Oct 1, 2008, 2:36 pm
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Originally Posted by WhisperjetYYZ
BTW: how far out did you book? There was no availability for all of Feb 09 for IST-DXB when the agent checked.
There is a 7 day advance purchase requirement... I booked about 30 days out.

A class fare availability may depend on the market. A class (the F RTW) was available JFK-FRA-SIN-HKG-SFO on numerous day when I booked, although the FRA-SIN 77W evening flight had no A seats on the day I wanted, so I took ZRH-SIN instead.

But another FTer discover that SQ had released no A seats at anytime in the entire year on the SIN-AKL routing, even when no revenue seats had been sold.
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Old Oct 1, 2008, 2:37 pm
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Originally Posted by c1mth0g
Does this only apply to business class RTW? (I presume they'll let you take the A345 nonstops in C if you pay the F RTW fare?)
The fare rules clearly stated that SQ21-22 are not permitted. So I guess even your fare is the FEZSQ, you're still out of luck.

[KVS Availability Tool 3.3.0/Platinum - ZUJ: LAX-LAX/SQ/FEZSQ/SQ APAC/6730 USD]
Code:
FIRST CLASS AROUND THE WORLD

[RULE APPLICATION AND OTHER CONDITIONS]
SQ EASY APAC FARE APPLICATION CLASS OF SERVICE THESE FARES APPLY FOR FIRST/BUSINESS/ECONOMY
CLASS SERVICE. TYPES OF TRANSPORTATION FARES GOVERNED
BY THIS RULE CAN BE USED TO CREATE CIRCLE-TRIP/OPEN-JAW/ROUND-THE-WORLD
JOURNEYS. OTHER CONDITIONS FARES ONLY APPLY IF PURCHASED BEFORE
DEPARTURE. EXCEPTION - MAY BE USED FOR ENROUTE UPGRADING FROM A
LOWER FARE PROVIDED ALL CONDITIONS OF THESE FARES ARE MET. TRAVEL VIA
BOTH THE ATLANTIC AND THE PACIFIC ON SQ SERVICES ONLY. FARES - 1.THIS
FARE APPLIES ONLY WHEN PURCHASED BEFORE DEPARTURE. 2.WHEN TICKETS ARE
SOLD OUTSIDE COUNTRY OF ORIGIN THE APPLICABLE LOCAL CURRENCY FARES
SHALL BE CONVERTED TO THE CURRENCY OF SALE AT BSR BUT IN NO INSTANCE
SHALL THE FARE BE LESS THAN THAT APPLICABLE FROM THE COUNTRY OF SALE.
3.IF FARES ARE NOT SPECIFIED IN LOCAL CURRENCY FROM COUNTRY OF SALE
THE CORRESPONDING USD FARES WILL BE USED FOR COMPARISON PURPOSE. PASSENGER
EXPENSES- EN ROUTE PASSENGER EXPENSES SHALL NOT BE ABSORBED BY
THE CARRIERS.

[ELIGIBILITY]
NO ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENTS APPLY.

[DAY/TIME]
NO DAY/TIME TRAVEL RESTRICTIONS APPLY.

[SEASONALITY]
NO SEASONAL TRAVEL RESTRICTIONS APPLY.

[FLIGHT APPLICATION]
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT BE ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING SQ FLIGHTS
0021 THROUGH 0022 SQ FLIGHTS 0037 THROUGH 0038 SQ FLIGHTS 1000 THROUGH
7999 SQ FLIGHTS 9000 THROUGH 9999. NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED
FOR AUTOPRICING. TRAVEL ON SQ A345 NOT PERMITTED. AND THE FARE COMPONENT
MUST NOT INCLUDE TRAVEL FROM/TO SOUTHWEST PACIFIC ON ONE OR MORE
OF THE FOLLOWING ANY SQ FLIGHT. NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR
AUTOPRICING. TRAVEL MUST BE IN A CONTINUOUS EASTBOUND OR WESTBOUND
GLOBAL DIRECTION. TRAVEL BY SURFACE SECTORS WILL BE PERMITTED PROVIDED
THEY ARE AT THE PASSENGER OWN EXPENSES. THE POINT AT WHICH THE PASSENGER
REBOARDS SQ SERVICES MUST BE IN THE SAME DIRECTION OF TRAVEL.
NO BACKTRACKING IS PERMITTED EXCEPT BTWN TWO SQ EUROPEAN DESTINATIONS.
THIS MAY BE  BY SURFACE OR VIA SQ SERVICES. -SUBJECT TO TRAFFIC RIGHT
RESTRICTIONS- NO CITY MAY BE TRANSITTED MORE THAN ONCE IN THE ENTIRE
JOURNEY.

[ADVANCE RESERVATIONS/TICKETING]
RESERVATIONS ARE REQUIRED FOR DEPARTURE OF FIRST INTERNATIONAL SECTOR
RESERVATIONS ARE REQUIRED AT LEAST 7 DAYS BEFORE DEPARTURE. OPEN RETURNS
PERMITTED, TICKETING MUST BE COMPLETED AT LEAST 7 DAYS BEFORE DEPARTURE.
NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING. TICKETING ENTRIES
- ALL TICKETS INCLUDING CONJUNCTION TICKETS MUST SHOW THE COMPLETE
FARE CONSTRUCTION IN VERTICAL OR LINEAR - FARE CONSTRUCTION BOXES-

[MINIMUM STAY]
NO MINIMUM STAY REQUIREMENTS APPLY.

[MAXIMUM STAY]
TRAVEL FROM LAST STOPOVER MUST COMMENCE NO LATER THAN 3 MONTHS AFTER DEPARTURE
FROM FARE ORIGIN.

[STOPOVERS]
5 FREE STOPOVERS PERMITTED. NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
-STOPOVERS ARE PERMITTED AT CITIES SERVED BY SQ. -ROUTING CONDITIONS
MUST BE OBSERVED. -STOPOVERS ARE SUB TO TRAFFIC RIGHT RESTRICTIONS.

[TRANSFERS]
UNLIMITED TRANSFERS PERMITTED ON THE PRICING UNIT. FARE BREAK AND EMBEDDED
SURFACE SECTORS PERMITTED ON THE FARE COMPONENT. NOTE - TEXT BELOW
NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING. NO SPCL REQUIREMENTS. TRAVEL BY SURFACE
SECTORS WILL BE PERMITTED PROVIDED THEY ARE AT THE PASSENGER OWN
EXPENSES. THE POINT AT  WHICH THE PASSENGER REBOARDS SQ SERVICES MUST
BE IN THE SAME DIRECTION OF TRAVEL

[COMBINATIONS]
ROUND TRIPS NOT PERMITTED. ADD-ONS PERMITTED. END-ON-END END-ON-END COMBINATIONS
PERMITTED. VALIDATE ALL FARE COMPONENTS. END-ON-END NOTE -
SIDE TRIP COMBINATIONS PERMITTED. PASSENGERS MAY PURCHASE AT THEIR OWN
EXPENSE ANY -VISIT AMERICA- OR OTHER FARES. OPEN JAWS/CIRCLE TRIPS
FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS -TO FORM SINGLE OR
DOUBLE OPEN JAWS/CIRCLE TRIPS. PROVIDED - COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY FARE
OF A DIFFERENT FARE TYPE FOR CARRIER SQ IN ANY RULE AND TARIFF.

[BLACKOUT DATES]
NO BLACKOUT DATES APPLY.

[SURCHARGES]
NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING. A- SQ BUSINESS PLUS SURCHARGES
ON B773ER NON-STOP SERVICES 1- THE SURCHARGES BELOW WILL BE
LEVIED ON BUSINESS CLASS RTW PASSENGERS TRAVELLING ON THE FOLLOWING
SQ B773ER NON-STOP SERVICES - SQ A380/B773ER BUSINESS CLASS Q-SURCHARGE
MATRIX ROUTE                          Q-SURCH PER SECTOR 1. SIN  
 - AMERICAS /VIA PA OR AT /    USD 600 2. KOREA  - AMERICAS /VIA PA/
          USD 500 3. EUROPE - AMERICAS /VIA AT/           USD 500 4.
SIN    - EUROPE                      USD 500 5. SIN    - SOUTH WEST PACIFIC
         USD 400 6. SIN    - SOUTH ASIAN SUBCONTINENT    USD 300
7. SIN    - KOREA/JAPAN/SOUTH EAST ASIA USD 300 3- THE SURCHARGE AMOUNTS
MUST BE REFLECTED AS A Q- SURCHARGE AFTER THE B773ER SECTOR. 4-
THE SURCHARGES WILL NOT APPLY TO FIRST CLASS RTW PASSENGERS. 5- INFANTS
NOT OCCUPYING A SEAT        - NO CHARGE INFANTS OCCUPYING A SEAT
           - NO DISCOUNT NO OTHER DISCOUNTS APPLY B- ONE OW/RT SIDE
TRIP TO/FROM SIN IS PERMITTED ON MI SERVICES - SECTOR V.V.          
     COW IN USD   YOW IN USD -----------                ----------  
---------- SIN-HKT/MES/PDG            216          115 SIN-MDC/PNH/RGN/BPN/UPG/
  390          220 REP SIN-KMG/XMN/CEB/DVO/TRV    519    
     254 SIN-LGK                    130 -J-      100 CLASS- SIN-CNX/AMI/SOC
           302          148 RT ADDON IS TWICE THE OW

[ACCOMPANIED TRAVEL]
ACCOMPANIED TRAVEL NOT REQUIRED.

[TRAVEL RESTRICTIONS]
VALID FOR TRAVEL COMMENCING ON/AFTER 01OCT04.

[SALES RESTRICTIONS]
TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON/AFTER 01OCT04.

[PENALTIES]
CANCELLATIONS  BEFORE DEPARTURE  NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
.BEFORE DEADLINE - FULL REFUND .AFTER DEADLINE/NO SHOW -
25PCT OF FARE PAID NOT REFUNDABLE.  AFTER DEPARTURE  NOTE - TEXT BELOW
NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING. CANCELLATION - THE REFUND IF ANY WILL
BE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE FARE PAID AND THE APPLICABLE NORMAL FARE
FOR THE JOURNEY COMPLETED LESS 25PCT.   NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED
FOR AUTOPRICING. -THE NON-REFUNDABLE AMOUNT MUST NOT BE USED AS
CREDIT TOWARDS PURCHASE OF ANY OTHER FARE.  CHANGES   NOTE - TEXT BELOW
NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING. CHANGES AFTER DEADLINE- 1.FIRST INTERNATIONAL
OUTBOUND SECTOR-CHANGES NOT PERMITTED. 2.OTHER SECTORS A.ONE
TRANSACTION PERMITTED FREE B.SUBSEQUENT CHANGES REQUIRING TICKET
REISSUANCE WILL BE PERMITTED AT A CHARGE OF USD25/GBP15 -EX U.K ONLY-
PER AFFECTED FLIGHT COUPON.

[HIP/MILEAGE EXCEPTIONS]
THE HIGHER INTERMEDIATE POINT RULE DOES NOT APPLY FOR STOPOVERS. NOTE
- NOT APPLICABLE.

[TICKET ENDORSEMENTS]
THE ORIGINAL AND THE REISSUED TICKET MUST BE ANNOTATED - VALID ON SQ ONLY
- AND - NON-REF/APAC - IN THE ENDORSEMENT BOX.

[CHILDREN DISCOUNTS]
CNN/ACCOMPANIED CHILD PSGR 2-11 - CHARGE 67 PERCENT OF THE FARE. MUST
BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS BY ADULT PSGR 12 OR OLDER. OR - 1ST INF/INFANT
WITHOUT A SEAT PSGR UNDER 2 - CHARGE 10 PERCENT OF THE FARE.
MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS BY AT LEAST 1 BUT NO MORE THAN 1 ADULT
PSGR 12 OR OLDER. NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
ONLY ONE INFANT SHALL ACCOMPANY EACH ADULT PASSENGER. ANY ADDITIONAL
INFANT WILL BE CHARGED 67 PCT. OF THE ADULT FARE AND A SEAT WILL BE
RESERVED. OR - INS/INFANT WITH A SEAT PSGR UNDER 2 - CHARGE 67 PERCENT
OF THE FARE. MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS BY AT LEAST 1 BUT
NO MORE THAN 1 ADULT PSGR 12 OR OLDER. NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED
FOR AUTOPRICING. ONLY ONE INFANT SHALL ACCOMPANY EACH ADULT PASSENGER.
ANY ADDITIONAL INFANT WILL BE CHARGED 67 PCT. OF THE ADULT FARE
AND A SEAT WILL BE RESERVED.

[TOUR CONDUCTOR DISCOUNTS]
NO DISCOUNTS FOR TOUR CONDUCTORS.

[AGENT DISCOUNTS]
NO DISCOUNTS FOR SALE AGENTS.

[ALL OTHER DISCOUNTS]
NO DISCOUNTS FOR OTHERS.

[MISCELLANEOUS PROVISIONS]
NO PROVISIONS APPLY.

[FARE BY RULE]
NOT APPLICABLE.

[GROUPS]
NO GROUP PROVISIONS APPLY.

[TOURS]
NO TOUR PROVISIONS APPLY.

[VISIT ANOTHER COUNTRY]
NO VISIT ANOTHER COUNTRY PROVISIONS APPLY.

[DEPOSITS]
NO DEPOSIT PROVISIONS APPLY.

[NEGOTIATED FARES]
NOT APPLICABLE. IC.INTERNATIONAL CONSTRUCTION NOT A CONSTRUCTED FARE
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Old Oct 1, 2008, 8:43 pm
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Talked to YVR SQ office today and was told they can not make reservations anymore, but was told to ask for Lead Supervisor (Peter) when calling call-centre.

He was a great help - even calling me back right-away after getting disconnected,and after about 20min confirmed:

JFK-FRA, IST-DXB-SIN and SIN-NRT-LAX. I am wait-listed for IST-DXB , but he was pretty confident it would clear fairly quickly.

Thanks for all the advice on booking this fare. Now it's time to research all that I will experience on my first SQ flights, my first RTW, and my first visit to all the destinations!
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Old Oct 1, 2008, 10:15 pm
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Originally Posted by c1mth0g
Does this only apply to business class RTW? (I presume they'll let you take the A345 nonstops in C if you pay the F RTW fare?)
As another poster pointed out even the F RTW does not allow SQ 21/22 or
SQ38/39
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Old Oct 2, 2008, 1:07 am
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Originally Posted by WhisperjetYYZ
Talked to YVR SQ office today and was told they can not make reservations anymore, but was told to ask for Lead Supervisor (Peter) when calling call-centre.

He was a great help - even calling me back right-away after getting disconnected,and after about 20min confirmed:

JFK-FRA, IST-DXB-SIN and SIN-NRT-LAX. I am wait-listed for IST-DXB , but he was pretty confident it would clear fairly quickly.

Thanks for all the advice on booking this fare. Now it's time to research all that I will experience on my first SQ flights, my first RTW, and my first visit to all the destinations!
Good for you! SQ F RTW is an experience you will not forget.
I look forward to reading your trip report. When are you going?
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Old Oct 2, 2008, 6:52 am
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Thanks SFO777.
Unfortunately the budget only allows for a C RTW, but based on reports here I won't be disappointed!

BTW - will I have access to the Virgin CH at JFK?
I am travellling YYZ-LGA and want to book flt based on time needed to transfer to JFK and how much time I want to experience in the lounge...
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Old Oct 2, 2008, 7:41 am
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Originally Posted by WhisperjetYYZ
Thanks SFO777.
Unfortunately the budget only allows for a C RTW, but based on reports here I won't be disappointed!

BTW - will I have access to the Virgin CH at JFK?
I am travellling YYZ-LGA and want to book flt based on time needed to transfer to JFK and how much time I want to experience in the lounge...
No VS Clubhouse at JFK for C passengers unless you are SQ PPS
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Old Oct 2, 2008, 10:43 am
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Originally Posted by WhisperjetYYZ
I am travellling YYZ-LGA and want to book flt based on time needed to transfer to JFK and how much time I want to experience in the lounge...
Ground transportation between airports can be found at http://www.panynj.gov/CommutingTrave...g_connect.html

Alternatively, LAN flies once a day, YYZ-JFK, and pretty cheap prices, also. Not sure if flight times would be more suitable
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Old Oct 2, 2008, 3:40 pm
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Originally Posted by rolov
No VS Clubhouse at JFK for C passengers unless you are SQ PPS
Oh well.
Any insights on what to expect at C lounge facilities at JFK that SQ use?
Trying to plan how much time I will want to spend there...
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Old Oct 2, 2008, 4:34 pm
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Originally Posted by WhisperjetYYZ
Oh well. Any insights on what to expect at C lounge facilities at JFK that SQ use? Trying to plan how much time I will want to spend there...
I've only used the VS lounge but I believe that most SQ C pax use the Swiss Lounge which it on the upper departures level pre-security right next door to the VS Lounge.
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Old Oct 2, 2008, 5:06 pm
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Originally Posted by SFO777
That's the kind of nonsense you get from SQ's India call center.....[on the other hand] the SFO office (415-781-7304) is particularly good. If you get a VM, leave a message and they will call you back promptly.

http://www.singaporeair.com/saa/en_U...fo/contact.jsp
I second both observations. I'm at JFK now, on an SQ FEZSQ ticket, boarding SQ 25 shortly for Frankfurt, getting off in FRA .....and, no surprise, SQ is happy to accomodate.

Just to be sure, I asked SQ if the rules have recently changed. They haven't.
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Old Oct 12, 2008, 9:48 am
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Originally Posted by SFO777
I've only used the VS lounge but I believe that most SQ C pax use the Swiss Lounge which it on the upper departures level pre-security right next door to the VS Lounge.
If you are *G you can use the LX lounge, otherwise C pax use the Oasis Lounge. I was an F passenger in August and there was an MX issue with the plane (SQ 25). They kept the VSCH open for a few hours after the last VS flight departed for the 8 of us that were in the lounge. Around midnight the SQ Station Manager came and apologized profusely and asked all of us to move to the Oasis lounge so that the VSCH could close. All of the C pax were there already.
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Old Oct 30, 2008, 9:00 am
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Can you do any non-stopping backtracking on this? i.e. could I do IAH-DME-SIN-MNL-SIN-HKG-LAX without stopping in SIN on the way back?
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