2011 - 2021: How likely are waitlisted awards to clear?
Nov 26, 2018, 8:29 am
#1651
Join Date: Mar 2017
Programs: United, AA, BA, AF
Posts: 24
You would not. Miles are not deducted from your account when you waitlist, only when you confirm. However, you need to make sure that you'll have enough once the confirmed saver J miles go back into your account when you change. For example, on my trip (FRA->JFK) Saver J is 65k, saver F is 76k (waitlist). If that waitlist clears, I'll get my 65k back, but will still be 11k short. I either need to plan ahead and have that 11k difference sitting in my account, or talk to an agent and have them hold it for me while I transfer from Chase/Amex/whoever. Just be wary those aren't always instant (in my experience Chase is within a few hours, Amex took 3-4 days).
Nov 29, 2018, 3:36 am
#1652
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: UK
Posts: 15
[deleted - found answer upthread]
Last edited by HPC; Nov 29, 2018 at 3:54 am
Nov 29, 2018, 6:56 am
#1653
Join Date: May 2017
Programs: Delta, Marriott
Posts: 187
Thanks Donut. Will dive in to trip planning again soon.
Nov 30, 2018, 3:42 pm
#1654
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: bay area, ca
Programs: UA plat, , aa plat, marriott LT titanium
Posts: 4,833
You would not. Miles are not deducted from your account when you waitlist, only when you confirm. However, you need to make sure that you'll have enough once the confirmed saver J miles go back into your account when you change. For example, on my trip (FRA->JFK) Saver J is 65k, saver F is 76k (waitlist). If that waitlist clears, I'll get my 65k back, but will still be 11k short. I either need to plan ahead and have that 11k difference sitting in my account, or talk to an agent and have them hold it for me while I transfer from Chase/Amex/whoever. Just be wary those aren't always instant (in my experience Chase is within a few hours, Amex took 3-4 days).
Nov 30, 2018, 7:08 pm
#1655
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: Singapore & Globe trotting
Programs: QR Gold, ITA Club Executive, Hilton Gold, GHA Titanium, Taj Gold, Accor Gold, Marriott Gold Elite
Posts: 425
If you don't have enough miles in your account you need to call-in to waitlist yourself. I've done this a few times.
Nov 30, 2018, 7:25 pm
#1656
Join Date: Oct 2016
Programs: Krisflyer
Posts: 588
The points aren't deducted when you waitlist but you do have to have them in your account. However, you can waitlist and then use the points for something else without forfeiting the waitlisted journey. (If the waitlist clears you have to be quick about transferring points or cancelling another award booking.)
Nov 30, 2018, 8:06 pm
#1657
Join Date: Mar 2017
Programs: United, AA, BA, AF
Posts: 24
Does having a confirmed ticket help with waitlist?
Hi again all! So I've been debating on how to get two seats in F after being able to waitlist only 1 from FRA-JFK. I decided that with my points stash, I'd be ok paying for one standard award and one saver award (206k total). There is a standard award available (no waitlist) on the date I want, same as my waitlist....if I book this for passenger 2, does this increase my chances of getting off the waitlist with the other booking? Anyone have any experience with this? IveI heard the SQ agents are very helpful and it's the return leg of my honeymoon!
Dec 2, 2018, 1:19 am
#1658
Join Date: Jun 2017
Posts: 2,280
Hi again all! So I've been debating on how to get two seats in F after being able to waitlist only 1 from FRA-JFK. I decided that with my points stash, I'd be ok paying for one standard award and one saver award (206k total). There is a standard award available (no waitlist) on the date I want, same as my waitlist....if I book this for passenger 2, does this increase my chances of getting off the waitlist with the other booking? Anyone have any experience with this? IveI heard the SQ agents are very helpful and it's the return leg of my honeymoon!
Dec 5, 2018, 9:31 pm
#1659
Join Date: May 2004
Location: SIN (LEJ once a year)
Programs: SQ, LH, BA, IHG Diamond AMB, HH Gold, SLH Indulged, Accor Gold, Hyatt Discoverist
Posts: 7,739
Anyways, I got rid of the waitlist and started fresh again this time reserving SQ326 SIN-FRA on a different day and waitlisting a return for both SQ25 & SQ325 FRA-SIN for saver biz award. After about 2+ weeks the SQ325 return just cleared. I got some time before this needs to be ticketed so will wait if SQ25 clears too and then decide. Not bad in this case.
Dec 7, 2018, 12:14 pm
#1660
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Sydney, Australia
Programs: MH Enrich, VS FC, HH Gold, PC, SPG Gold, Marco Polo Gold, Accor Plat
Posts: 1,104
Hi All,
I have a confirmed SYD-SIN-KUL-SIN-SYD 3 X J using award miles. Stopover in SIN for a a week on the outbound, then stop in KUL for a week. then on the inbound 7 hours transit in SIN before flying back to SYD.
I have a waitlisted for: KUL-SIN-SYD (no stopover just transit) again 3 X J. This is waitlisted for a different date like 4 days later than my confirmed ticket above. The purpose of this waitlist is to stay back in KUL a few more days.
My question is if waitlist clears before I start the trip what happens? And if waitlist clears after I finish the SYD-SIN-KUL sector what happens?
Have I done the wait list correctly? If it clears do I call up to cancel my original confirmed segment of KUL-SIN-SYD and they rebook me to the new waitlisted dates?
Thanks,
K.
I have a confirmed SYD-SIN-KUL-SIN-SYD 3 X J using award miles. Stopover in SIN for a a week on the outbound, then stop in KUL for a week. then on the inbound 7 hours transit in SIN before flying back to SYD.
I have a waitlisted for: KUL-SIN-SYD (no stopover just transit) again 3 X J. This is waitlisted for a different date like 4 days later than my confirmed ticket above. The purpose of this waitlist is to stay back in KUL a few more days.
My question is if waitlist clears before I start the trip what happens? And if waitlist clears after I finish the SYD-SIN-KUL sector what happens?
Have I done the wait list correctly? If it clears do I call up to cancel my original confirmed segment of KUL-SIN-SYD and they rebook me to the new waitlisted dates?
Thanks,
K.
Dec 7, 2018, 11:16 pm
#1662
Join Date: May 2004
Location: SIN (LEJ once a year)
Programs: SQ, LH, BA, IHG Diamond AMB, HH Gold, SLH Indulged, Accor Gold, Hyatt Discoverist
Posts: 7,739
Hi All,
I have a confirmed SYD-SIN-KUL-SIN-SYD 3 X J using award miles. Stopover in SIN for a a week on the outbound, then stop in KUL for a week. then on the inbound 7 hours transit in SIN before flying back to SYD.
I have a waitlisted for: KUL-SIN-SYD (no stopover just transit) again 3 X J. This is waitlisted for a different date like 4 days later than my confirmed ticket above. The purpose of this waitlist is to stay back in KUL a few more days.
My question is if waitlist clears before I start the trip what happens? And if waitlist clears after I finish the SYD-SIN-KUL sector what happens?
Have I done the wait list correctly? If it clears do I call up to cancel my original confirmed segment of KUL-SIN-SYD and they rebook me to the new waitlisted dates?
Thanks,
K.
I have a confirmed SYD-SIN-KUL-SIN-SYD 3 X J using award miles. Stopover in SIN for a a week on the outbound, then stop in KUL for a week. then on the inbound 7 hours transit in SIN before flying back to SYD.
I have a waitlisted for: KUL-SIN-SYD (no stopover just transit) again 3 X J. This is waitlisted for a different date like 4 days later than my confirmed ticket above. The purpose of this waitlist is to stay back in KUL a few more days.
My question is if waitlist clears before I start the trip what happens? And if waitlist clears after I finish the SYD-SIN-KUL sector what happens?
Have I done the wait list correctly? If it clears do I call up to cancel my original confirmed segment of KUL-SIN-SYD and they rebook me to the new waitlisted dates?
Thanks,
K.
Dec 8, 2018, 12:24 am
#1663
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Join Date: May 2009
Location: FRA / YEG
Programs: AC Super Elite, Radisson Platinum, Accor Platinum
Posts: 11,874
Since I've been getting conflicting information: When having a confirmed business class award, is it possible to waitlist for First class on the same flight without having any miles in the account?
Dec 8, 2018, 5:32 am
#1664
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Sydney, Australia
Programs: MH Enrich, VS FC, HH Gold, PC, SPG Gold, Marco Polo Gold, Accor Plat
Posts: 1,104
Have you waitlisted under the same reservation than your confirmed roundtrip? If yes then it should be a simple change of your return segments if the waitlist clears. If you waitlisted the new return flights separate under a different booking (PNR) then it'll be a headache as they can't combine both bookings.
it looks like separate as it has a separate booking reference? Is this correct?
Dec 8, 2018, 9:25 am
#1665
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: New York City
Programs: SPG Plat, Hyatt Globalist, DL Platinum
Posts: 96
What's the general guidance for waitlisting for 2 passengers - one booking/waitlist with 2 tickets, or two separate bookings/waitlists?
I'm trying to grab MLE - SIN in February. Saver business is waitlist for one or two passengers, while economy is open for both. I plan on booking economy just to make sure we have flights to fly on, but not sure whether we're more likely to clear off the waitlist as one booking with two passengers or two bookings with a single passenger.
I'm trying to grab MLE - SIN in February. Saver business is waitlist for one or two passengers, while economy is open for both. I plan on booking economy just to make sure we have flights to fly on, but not sure whether we're more likely to clear off the waitlist as one booking with two passengers or two bookings with a single passenger.