Aman Poll and Questions (up to end 2009)
Jul 2, 2006 | 1:48 pm
#91
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Milan, Italy
Posts: 168
Guys, sorry to stray from the topic, but since this forum has become more reliable than anything else, I was wondering whether you may suggest something for my next trip in August. I would skip Indonesia (it would be my fourth time) and considering that all the other Amans in Asia will be in the middle of the rainy season, I will have to be content with something else...
I am thinking about a trip to Yunnan (and possibly stay @ the two new Banyan Tree resorts) and chilling in Langawi (Datai? Four seasons?) and/or Pangkor Laut.
Any hints?
Thank you very much
H
I am thinking about a trip to Yunnan (and possibly stay @ the two new Banyan Tree resorts) and chilling in Langawi (Datai? Four seasons?) and/or Pangkor Laut.
Any hints?
Thank you very much
H
Jul 2, 2006 | 2:06 pm
#92
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Stuttgart, Germany
Programs: Too many...and an Amanjunkie
Posts: 1,698
I love the Datai but August is rainy season at Malaysia's west coast (Langkawi and Pangkor Laut). It's dry season in Bali, Koh Samui (e.g. Evason) or along Malaysia's east coast though (The Aryani or Tanjong Jara come to my mind).
Jul 20, 2006 | 10:20 am
#93
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: germany
Posts: 56
amanmila
just saw this
LONDON (AFX) - Dolphin Capital Investors Ltd said it has invested 5 mln eur to fund its share of the acquisition of land and first phase of development of the Amanmila Resort in Greece.
DCI is jointly developing the resort with three other equal partners: Aman Resorts, achitect John Heah, and Greek mining company S&B Industrial Minerals.
The Amanmila Resort, to be developed over 65 hectares of a virgin peninsula in the Cycladic islands, will have 40 rooms and 40 villas, it said.
Dolphin Capital Investors is a real estate investment company focused on the residential resort sector in Southeast Europe. [email protected] jfr
LONDON (AFX) - Dolphin Capital Investors Ltd said it has invested 5 mln eur to fund its share of the acquisition of land and first phase of development of the Amanmila Resort in Greece.
DCI is jointly developing the resort with three other equal partners: Aman Resorts, achitect John Heah, and Greek mining company S&B Industrial Minerals.
The Amanmila Resort, to be developed over 65 hectares of a virgin peninsula in the Cycladic islands, will have 40 rooms and 40 villas, it said.
Dolphin Capital Investors is a real estate investment company focused on the residential resort sector in Southeast Europe. [email protected] jfr
Jul 22, 2006 | 9:07 am
#94
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: ATL
Programs: DL SkyMiles PM/2MM, AA Plat, IC Diam. Amb., Peninsula regular, amanjunkie
Posts: 5,849
A few questions...
Does anyone have up-to-date information on the planned Aman in Bangkok? I may have heard (or simply surmised) that it will be located in the old building on the riverfront near the Portuguese Embassy just upriver from the Oriental. I'm most curious about where it will be and when it will open.
Someone in this thread commented that food isn't exactly Aman's strong point. Is that right? Some properties I've looked at, like Amanpuri, seem to have their main restaurant focus on Italian food. Italian food in Thailand is kind of silly (and vaguely insulting).
Also, having flipped through the pages of this thread, I did not see any substantive comments on the Amanpuri. What can you Amanjunkies offer on that? I'm likely going to Phuket next year and deciding between the Amanpuri and The Chedi next door.
Finally, and this may seem like a silly question, but at least it will be a good conversation-starter, I hope: What exactly is it that makes an Aman experience so special? What makes it so much better than--and justifies the 2x or 3x higher rates of--a GHM resort like The Chedi Club near Ubud or The Legian? I stayed at both of those on a recent trip to Bali and loved them. Why should I stay at the Amandari next time? Why should I stay at the Amanpuri instead of The Chedi?
I look forward to your well-informed comments. Thanks in advance.
Someone in this thread commented that food isn't exactly Aman's strong point. Is that right? Some properties I've looked at, like Amanpuri, seem to have their main restaurant focus on Italian food. Italian food in Thailand is kind of silly (and vaguely insulting).
Also, having flipped through the pages of this thread, I did not see any substantive comments on the Amanpuri. What can you Amanjunkies offer on that? I'm likely going to Phuket next year and deciding between the Amanpuri and The Chedi next door.
Finally, and this may seem like a silly question, but at least it will be a good conversation-starter, I hope: What exactly is it that makes an Aman experience so special? What makes it so much better than--and justifies the 2x or 3x higher rates of--a GHM resort like The Chedi Club near Ubud or The Legian? I stayed at both of those on a recent trip to Bali and loved them. Why should I stay at the Amandari next time? Why should I stay at the Amanpuri instead of The Chedi?
I look forward to your well-informed comments. Thanks in advance.
Jul 22, 2006 | 10:40 am
#95
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 1,368
amanmila....o dear ! o my !
Originally Posted by opxzaw
just saw this
LONDON (AFX) - Dolphin Capital Investors Ltd said it has invested 5 mln eur to fund its share of the acquisition of land and first phase of development of the Amanmila Resort in Greece.
DCI is jointly developing the resort with three other equal partners: Aman Resorts, achitect John Heah, and Greek mining company S&B Industrial Minerals.
The Amanmila Resort, to be developed over 65 hectares of a virgin peninsula in the Cycladic islands, will have 40 rooms and 40 villas, it said.
Dolphin Capital Investors is a real estate investment company focused on the residential resort sector in Southeast Europe. [email protected] jfr
LONDON (AFX) - Dolphin Capital Investors Ltd said it has invested 5 mln eur to fund its share of the acquisition of land and first phase of development of the Amanmila Resort in Greece.
DCI is jointly developing the resort with three other equal partners: Aman Resorts, achitect John Heah, and Greek mining company S&B Industrial Minerals.
The Amanmila Resort, to be developed over 65 hectares of a virgin peninsula in the Cycladic islands, will have 40 rooms and 40 villas, it said.
Dolphin Capital Investors is a real estate investment company focused on the residential resort sector in Southeast Europe. [email protected] jfr
this is primo news..... but then isnt John Heah the archihtect who crashed that spacesship into fourseasons sayan..???.......what will he crash into the greek isles this time....stealth jet.???......i am worried.....
Jul 24, 2006 | 6:12 am
#96
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Milan, Italy
Posts: 168
An Aman in the Cyclades... this is awesome. Does anyone know on which island will it be? The name seems to suggest Milos (which is a spectacular island) and it's quite off the beaten track which, IMO is an upside of the best Amans (e.g. Amanwana, Amankora, Amanjiwo). For those who have never been to the Cyclades, this is one of the most amazing place on earth in terms of scenery, sea, weather (greek skies are clean and blue like in the Alps) food, beaches and nightlife.
Megatop,
I had great food in all the four Amans I have been to (plus one great dinner in Amanusa and unforgettable fresh lobsters while sailing in Flores sea with the Aman Komodo Expedition) and I consider myself quite fussy in terms of dining.
Amanpuri does have an Italian restaurant (which works only in the evening) but it's not the main restaurant (which is 100% thai as all the food I had in the resort).
Although Amanpuri is a bigger resort compared to other smaller Amans (where the people of the staff have paranormal skills to forecast your needs and preferences and seem to have known you for years) it is still an Aman which means unerring service and efficiency and true disarming kindness.
On top of that, an Aman means contemporary style, amazing scenery (and food!) and the impression that the average client is much more cultivated than in other luxury hotels, but less snooty (and less tacky). Think of the "no TV" policy - which, I think, is great - the libraries and the numerous cultural activities.
This also depends on the locations... Bhutan attracts travellers different to those drinking their margaritas soaking in a "pool bar" in Cancun, this is why I would be more enthusiastic about Amans opening in undiscovered corners of the world (Socotra island in Yemen? Mongolia? Lakshwadeep? Micronesia?).
Megatop,
I had great food in all the four Amans I have been to (plus one great dinner in Amanusa and unforgettable fresh lobsters while sailing in Flores sea with the Aman Komodo Expedition) and I consider myself quite fussy in terms of dining.
Amanpuri does have an Italian restaurant (which works only in the evening) but it's not the main restaurant (which is 100% thai as all the food I had in the resort).
Although Amanpuri is a bigger resort compared to other smaller Amans (where the people of the staff have paranormal skills to forecast your needs and preferences and seem to have known you for years) it is still an Aman which means unerring service and efficiency and true disarming kindness.
On top of that, an Aman means contemporary style, amazing scenery (and food!) and the impression that the average client is much more cultivated than in other luxury hotels, but less snooty (and less tacky). Think of the "no TV" policy - which, I think, is great - the libraries and the numerous cultural activities.
This also depends on the locations... Bhutan attracts travellers different to those drinking their margaritas soaking in a "pool bar" in Cancun, this is why I would be more enthusiastic about Amans opening in undiscovered corners of the world (Socotra island in Yemen? Mongolia? Lakshwadeep? Micronesia?).
Jul 25, 2006 | 5:45 am
#97
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: ATL
Programs: DL SkyMiles PM/2MM, AA Plat, IC Diam. Amb., Peninsula regular, amanjunkie
Posts: 5,849
Thanks for your observations, Hubertus. ^
Does anyone else have any comments?
TIA.
Does anyone else have any comments?
TIA.
Jul 25, 2006 | 7:46 am
#98
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: germany
Posts: 56
aman croatia
following up on earlier comments I found this:
The former Hotel Makedonija in Cavtat, a small town located on the very south of the Adriatic coast, in less than two years will become an elite facility with five star rating and will be the propriety of the most luxurious hotel chain Aman Resorts.Namely, the owner of this chain Adrian Zech purchased the Hotel Makedonija in May of this year and announced the pulling down of the old and construction of a new hotel facility with five star rating which will, instead of the current 100 rooms, offer 24 rooms on 84 square metres and 12 apartments in 166 square metres. Along with this, it will have a large wellness and spa centre which will extend over 80 square metres.
Into the hotel, which will be opened within two years, will be invested between 15 and 20 million Euro and will employ about 80 employees from Cavtat and surrounding area and as announced only the general manager and main chef will be foreigners.
source www.htz.hr
I really wonder how high rates will be in croatia and greece.
The former Hotel Makedonija in Cavtat, a small town located on the very south of the Adriatic coast, in less than two years will become an elite facility with five star rating and will be the propriety of the most luxurious hotel chain Aman Resorts.Namely, the owner of this chain Adrian Zech purchased the Hotel Makedonija in May of this year and announced the pulling down of the old and construction of a new hotel facility with five star rating which will, instead of the current 100 rooms, offer 24 rooms on 84 square metres and 12 apartments in 166 square metres. Along with this, it will have a large wellness and spa centre which will extend over 80 square metres.
Into the hotel, which will be opened within two years, will be invested between 15 and 20 million Euro and will employ about 80 employees from Cavtat and surrounding area and as announced only the general manager and main chef will be foreigners.
source www.htz.hr
I really wonder how high rates will be in croatia and greece.
Jul 25, 2006 | 8:41 am
#99
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 1,368
aman excelsior in dubrovnik ...any news..???
Originally Posted by opxzaw
following up on earlier comments I found this:
The former Hotel Makedonija in Cavtat, a small town located on the very south of the Adriatic coast, in less than two years will become an elite facility with five star rating and will be the propriety of the most luxurious hotel chain Aman Resorts.Namely, the owner of this chain Adrian Zech purchased the Hotel Makedonija in May of this year and announced the pulling down of the old and construction of a new hotel facility with five star rating which will, instead of the current 100 rooms, offer 24 rooms on 84 square metres and 12 apartments in 166 square metres. Along with this, it will have a large wellness and spa centre which will extend over 80 square metres.
Into the hotel, which will be opened within two years, will be invested between 15 and 20 million Euro and will employ about 80 employees from Cavtat and surrounding area and as announced only the general manager and main chef will be foreigners.
source www.htz.hr
I really wonder how high rates will be in croatia and greece.
The former Hotel Makedonija in Cavtat, a small town located on the very south of the Adriatic coast, in less than two years will become an elite facility with five star rating and will be the propriety of the most luxurious hotel chain Aman Resorts.Namely, the owner of this chain Adrian Zech purchased the Hotel Makedonija in May of this year and announced the pulling down of the old and construction of a new hotel facility with five star rating which will, instead of the current 100 rooms, offer 24 rooms on 84 square metres and 12 apartments in 166 square metres. Along with this, it will have a large wellness and spa centre which will extend over 80 square metres.
Into the hotel, which will be opened within two years, will be invested between 15 and 20 million Euro and will employ about 80 employees from Cavtat and surrounding area and as announced only the general manager and main chef will be foreigners.
source www.htz.hr
I really wonder how high rates will be in croatia and greece.
another aman in the former yugoslavia ?
1 = excelsior in dubrovnik
2 = sveti stefan in montenegro
3 = now makedonija in croatia ??
the aman invasion of yugoslavia......better than any UN or Nato force......
anyone know what has happend to the long awaited Excelsior in dubrovnik ??
Jul 30, 2006 | 1:47 pm
#100
Join Date: Feb 2003
Programs: UA1K, *G & Wife of UA1K MM
Posts: 3,525
From aimquoted.com....
20 July 2006
Dolphin Capital Investors Limited ("DCI" or the "Company")
5 million commitment in Amanmila Resort in Greece
Dolphin Capital Investors, the real estate investment company focused on the Master-planned Residential Resort sector in Southeast Europe and managed by Dolphin Capital Partners, is pleased to announce the signing of its investment in Amanmila Resort in Greece.
DCI is one of the largest foreign real estate investors currently dedicated to Greece, Cyprus, Turkey and Croatia. The Company's shares commenced trading on AIM on 8 December 2005, having raised 70.7 million (104 million) to invest in the target region.
Highlights:
The Amanmila Resort, to be developed over 65 hectares of a virgin peninsula in the Cycladic islands, is expected to become Europe's first villa-integrated Aman Resort comprising 40 rooms and 40 villas.
DCI is jointly developing the Resort with three other equal partners: Aman Resorts - the world's most exclusive resort operator, John Heah - award winning architect and S&B Industrial Minerals - Greece's largest mining company.
The remaining sea-front land of the peninsula (approximately 135 hectares) will be owned by a joint venture between DCI and S&B, therefore allowing DCI to own a larger land site than originally presented in the DCI admission document in December 2005.
DCI is committing 5 million to this investment to fund its share of the land acquisition and the first phase of the Resort's development.
With this commitment, DCI's total commitments since its December 2005 listing have reached 75 million.
Said Miltos Kambourides, the Managing Partner of Dolphin Capital Partners: "The inclusion of S&B into the Amanmila partnership strengthens even further the development proposition. We firmly believe that this Aman Resort has the potential to become the most exclusive villa integrated hotel in the Mediterranean region."
Further Details:
The Amanmila Resort involves the development of Europe's first villa-integrated Aman Resort, on the island of Milos, in Cyclades, Greece. The Resort is expected to comprise a 40 room Aman hotel together with 40 Aman Villas and will be positioned at the highest end of the hotel and real estate market.
The Resort will be located on an unspoilt peninsula with approximately 5 kilometres of shoreline and with its own natural harbour. It is currently being designed by award winning architect John Heah, and managed by Aman Resorts, operator of the world's most exclusive resorts. The Villas will be branded, serviced and sold by Aman.
Dolphin has signed a Shareholders' Agreement with S&B Industrial Minerals S.A. ("S&B"), a company listed on the Athens Stock Exchange, to form a 50/50 joint venture ("JV") which will own 100% of the sea-shore land of the peninsula which is approximately 200 hectares. From this land 65 hectares will be contributed to the Amanmila Resort where the JV will be a 50% shareholder with the other 50% being split equally between Aman and Heah. The remaining 135 hectares represent a land bank for future development expected to significantly increase in value as the Resort's development progresses.
Partnering with S&B brings the following additional benefits:
1. The Dolphin-S&B JV will control the entire sea-front of the peninsula, approximately 200 hectares (versus the 140 hectares that were to be originally acquired) as S&B and related companies will be contributing the adjacent land they currently own into the JV.
2. S&B is one of Greece's most successful industrial companies with a strong presence, trading history and influence on the island of Milos.
The land transfer and planning application process has already begun and is expected to conclude in approximately 18 months. The effective cost of the 200 hectares is approximately 6 million.
DCI is committing 5 million to this JV in order to fund its share of the land acquisition and the first phase of the Resort's development. With this commitment, DCI has already committed 75 million of the funds raised from its December 2005 listing.
Project Amanmila is one of the six projects that were presented in the Prospective Investment Portfolio section of Dolphin's December 2005 Admission Document. Together with the Kilada Hills Resort, Scorpio Bay Resort and Apollo Heights Resort, DCI has thus far closed four out of six of the prospective projects presented.
20 July 2006
Dolphin Capital Investors Limited ("DCI" or the "Company")
5 million commitment in Amanmila Resort in Greece
Dolphin Capital Investors, the real estate investment company focused on the Master-planned Residential Resort sector in Southeast Europe and managed by Dolphin Capital Partners, is pleased to announce the signing of its investment in Amanmila Resort in Greece.
DCI is one of the largest foreign real estate investors currently dedicated to Greece, Cyprus, Turkey and Croatia. The Company's shares commenced trading on AIM on 8 December 2005, having raised 70.7 million (104 million) to invest in the target region.
Highlights:
The Amanmila Resort, to be developed over 65 hectares of a virgin peninsula in the Cycladic islands, is expected to become Europe's first villa-integrated Aman Resort comprising 40 rooms and 40 villas.
DCI is jointly developing the Resort with three other equal partners: Aman Resorts - the world's most exclusive resort operator, John Heah - award winning architect and S&B Industrial Minerals - Greece's largest mining company.
The remaining sea-front land of the peninsula (approximately 135 hectares) will be owned by a joint venture between DCI and S&B, therefore allowing DCI to own a larger land site than originally presented in the DCI admission document in December 2005.
DCI is committing 5 million to this investment to fund its share of the land acquisition and the first phase of the Resort's development.
With this commitment, DCI's total commitments since its December 2005 listing have reached 75 million.
Said Miltos Kambourides, the Managing Partner of Dolphin Capital Partners: "The inclusion of S&B into the Amanmila partnership strengthens even further the development proposition. We firmly believe that this Aman Resort has the potential to become the most exclusive villa integrated hotel in the Mediterranean region."
Further Details:
The Amanmila Resort involves the development of Europe's first villa-integrated Aman Resort, on the island of Milos, in Cyclades, Greece. The Resort is expected to comprise a 40 room Aman hotel together with 40 Aman Villas and will be positioned at the highest end of the hotel and real estate market.
The Resort will be located on an unspoilt peninsula with approximately 5 kilometres of shoreline and with its own natural harbour. It is currently being designed by award winning architect John Heah, and managed by Aman Resorts, operator of the world's most exclusive resorts. The Villas will be branded, serviced and sold by Aman.
Dolphin has signed a Shareholders' Agreement with S&B Industrial Minerals S.A. ("S&B"), a company listed on the Athens Stock Exchange, to form a 50/50 joint venture ("JV") which will own 100% of the sea-shore land of the peninsula which is approximately 200 hectares. From this land 65 hectares will be contributed to the Amanmila Resort where the JV will be a 50% shareholder with the other 50% being split equally between Aman and Heah. The remaining 135 hectares represent a land bank for future development expected to significantly increase in value as the Resort's development progresses.
Partnering with S&B brings the following additional benefits:
1. The Dolphin-S&B JV will control the entire sea-front of the peninsula, approximately 200 hectares (versus the 140 hectares that were to be originally acquired) as S&B and related companies will be contributing the adjacent land they currently own into the JV.
2. S&B is one of Greece's most successful industrial companies with a strong presence, trading history and influence on the island of Milos.
The land transfer and planning application process has already begun and is expected to conclude in approximately 18 months. The effective cost of the 200 hectares is approximately 6 million.
DCI is committing 5 million to this JV in order to fund its share of the land acquisition and the first phase of the Resort's development. With this commitment, DCI has already committed 75 million of the funds raised from its December 2005 listing.
Project Amanmila is one of the six projects that were presented in the Prospective Investment Portfolio section of Dolphin's December 2005 Admission Document. Together with the Kilada Hills Resort, Scorpio Bay Resort and Apollo Heights Resort, DCI has thus far closed four out of six of the prospective projects presented.
Jul 31, 2006 | 4:43 am
#101
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Milan, Italy
Posts: 168
from www.nationmultimedia.com
Local property developer Natural Park Plc is to team up with Singapore-based luxury hotel and resort developer Aman Resorts to develop 10 hotel projects in seven European countries.
The combined investment budget for the projects is Bt7 billion.
The target markets are Croatia, France, Greece, Italy, Russia, Tunisia and Turkey.
Natural Park CEO Sermsin Samalapa said the location of the first three properties would be finalised within the next three months, while the remaining projects will be concluded next year.
Construction of each project will take up to 18 months.
Local property developer Natural Park Plc is to team up with Singapore-based luxury hotel and resort developer Aman Resorts to develop 10 hotel projects in seven European countries.
The combined investment budget for the projects is Bt7 billion.
The target markets are Croatia, France, Greece, Italy, Russia, Tunisia and Turkey.
Natural Park CEO Sermsin Samalapa said the location of the first three properties would be finalised within the next three months, while the remaining projects will be concluded next year.
Construction of each project will take up to 18 months.
Jul 31, 2006 | 6:40 am
#102
Join Date: Feb 2003
Programs: UA1K, *G & Wife of UA1K MM
Posts: 3,525
Megatop Lover,
To answer your question, what makes Amans special are:
- Location of spectacular natural beauty with the resort and accomodations built to take advantage of the view
- Resorts custom designed according to the local culture, using mostly local materials while incorporating contemporary touches
- Quiet, often off-the-beaten path locations
- Small, with 45 rooms or less
- Staff to guest ratio of up to 5-1
- Extremely personal and sincere service where everyone knows you by name, whether you have met them yet or not
- Daily access and relationship with GM
- Invisible housekeeping and other maintenance services
- Lavish fresh flowers
- Private and unique cultural excursions that get you into the surrounding wilderness and community
- Generally excellent food
- Complementary airport greeting and transfers
- Quiet (no blaring TVs, lawn mowers or jet skis). Only the sound of the local music on your CD player.
To answer your question, what makes Amans special are:
- Location of spectacular natural beauty with the resort and accomodations built to take advantage of the view
- Resorts custom designed according to the local culture, using mostly local materials while incorporating contemporary touches
- Quiet, often off-the-beaten path locations
- Small, with 45 rooms or less
- Staff to guest ratio of up to 5-1
- Extremely personal and sincere service where everyone knows you by name, whether you have met them yet or not
- Daily access and relationship with GM
- Invisible housekeeping and other maintenance services
- Lavish fresh flowers
- Private and unique cultural excursions that get you into the surrounding wilderness and community
- Generally excellent food
- Complementary airport greeting and transfers
- Quiet (no blaring TVs, lawn mowers or jet skis). Only the sound of the local music on your CD player.
Aug 15, 2006 | 3:01 pm
#103
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 31
How was the heat at Amanbagh in May?
How was the heat at Amanbagh in May? Would love to go next year for my 30th b-day, but worried that it may be too hot. Thanks for any advice.
Aug 15, 2006 | 3:14 pm
#104
Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 580
Amanbagh in May
Originally Posted by cruisinred
How was the heat at Amanbagh in May? Would love to go next year for my 30th b-day, but worried that it may be too hot. Thanks for any advice.
Aug 16, 2006 | 6:24 am
#105
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Milan, Italy
Posts: 168
I am also planning to visit the indian Amans later this year. Does anyone know if the Aman-i-khas / Amanbagh trip is doable at Christmas time? I know It's the dry season but will it be too chilly to sunbathe/swim?
By the way, I am in Bali after a trip to the 2 chinese Banyan Tree resorts. I just find a place in Amankila and I am looking forward to see it!!
Ciao
By the way, I am in Bali after a trip to the 2 chinese Banyan Tree resorts. I just find a place in Amankila and I am looking forward to see it!!
Ciao