Secondary Screening with Global Entry
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I read about an issue between Delta and Nigerian officials. Apparently, the acting president of Nigeria has directed security in Lagos not to manually inspect outgoing luggage.
This was in June, but apparently, there is a showdown brewing between US Customs and the Nigerian government. Could this be behind the scrutiny of checked bags?
Looks like this might become common with flights directly from Lagos. Could the US government even try to pressure Delta into cancelling the flight?
Not sure whats up with ICN, but I imagine flights from LOS will get greater scrutiny.
This was in June, but apparently, there is a showdown brewing between US Customs and the Nigerian government. Could this be behind the scrutiny of checked bags?
Looks like this might become common with flights directly from Lagos. Could the US government even try to pressure Delta into cancelling the flight?
Not sure whats up with ICN, but I imagine flights from LOS will get greater scrutiny.
This doesn't even make sense.
Nigeria isn't going to be looking for items that are banned by US customs, they're supposedly looking for security threats.
If they don't inspect out-going luggage, the flight has arrived and the luggage has been off-loaded without incident, presumably that means there was no threat in checked baggage - so there's no reason to conduct a search on arrival in the US for that reason.
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This doesn't even make sense.
Nigeria isn't going to be looking for items that are banned by US customs, they're supposedly looking for security threats.
If they don't inspect out-going luggage, the flight has arrived and the luggage has been off-loaded without incident, presumably that means there was no threat in checked baggage - so there's no reason to conduct a search on arrival in the US for that reason.
This doesn't even make sense.
Nigeria isn't going to be looking for items that are banned by US customs, they're supposedly looking for security threats.
If they don't inspect out-going luggage, the flight has arrived and the luggage has been off-loaded without incident, presumably that means there was no threat in checked baggage - so there's no reason to conduct a search on arrival in the US for that reason.
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Had nothing to do with US customs. Rather was about DL being required to inspect luggage due to US security rules and Nigerian President wanting bags only screened in back via whatever system they use that US doesn't approve of. Partially was to stop Nigerian customs officers from ransacking bags and demanding bribes. Nothing to do with US customs.
Now I'm really confused.
If GE members (or any pax) on flights from Nigeria are being singled out for special searches by CBP on arrival in the US, then that certainly does have to do with US customs. And US customs is not charged with the responsibility of screening bags for aviation security threats, their responsibility is to prevent contraband coming into the US. Searching bags in the US is going to do nothing to deter Nigerian baggage handlers from stealing.
I could understand this occasionally if CBP was acting on semi-specific knowledge, ie, they've been tipped that someone is smuggling something into the country, probably on flight XX. Or perhaps they've got an insider tip that folks are using GE and the hope of reduced bag searches to smuggle.
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Now I'm really confused.
If GE members (or any pax) on flights from Nigeria are being singled out for special searches by CBP on arrival in the US, then that certainly does have to do with US customs. And US customs is not charged with the responsibility of screening bags for aviation security threats, their responsibility is to prevent contraband coming into the US. Searching bags in the US is going to do nothing to deter Nigerian baggage handlers from stealing.
I could understand this occasionally if CBP was acting on semi-specific knowledge, ie, they've been tipped that someone is smuggling something into the country, probably on flight XX. Or perhaps they've got an insider tip that folks are using GE and the hope of reduced bag searches to smuggle.
Now I'm really confused.
If GE members (or any pax) on flights from Nigeria are being singled out for special searches by CBP on arrival in the US, then that certainly does have to do with US customs. And US customs is not charged with the responsibility of screening bags for aviation security threats, their responsibility is to prevent contraband coming into the US. Searching bags in the US is going to do nothing to deter Nigerian baggage handlers from stealing.
I could understand this occasionally if CBP was acting on semi-specific knowledge, ie, they've been tipped that someone is smuggling something into the country, probably on flight XX. Or perhaps they've got an insider tip that folks are using GE and the hope of reduced bag searches to smuggle.
#2 had nothing to do with number one and just added to confusion.
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As expected, on a recent entry into JFK, the GE kiosk once again "X'ed" me (I'm 4/4 so far this year). This time the CBP officer was more sympathetic. Before sending me to the obligatory 5 min check in secondary, she asked me to call a specific person at the original GE enrollment center to see if something on my file needs to get rectified. The person I called at the GE enrollment center was nice enough to accommodate my request, but said she can't do anything with my file because my 'X' is being triggered automatically by me having a common name. I'm basically considering adding a middle name so I can distinguish myself from my unscrupulous namesake. At least I got the closure I needed. Oh well! at least being the first one to get in and out of secondary isn't a bad perk.
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Sorry to revive an old thread but seems an
appropriate place to ask.
Just arrived in JFK from DXB, Im a US citizen with GE. Passed thru the new facial recognition GE kiosk fine, the agent collecting the slip before baggage claim asked me normal questions such as- where am I coming from, how long away, did I bring any food back etc. I said no, no food or any purchases, she welcomed me home.
Picked up my one checked bag and was walking out through customs when an agent pulled me aside and asked where Im coming from, how long Ive been gone, purpose of travel etc. Then he requests to search my luggage, which he does and finds nothing suspicious because there is nothing.
He then types something into his computer for a few minutes and scans my passport and lets me go.
I just want to know if this will cause any issues for my GE and Precheck moving forward? First time having this random search in my 7+ years of having GE, and countless international trips over the years.
appropriate place to ask.
Just arrived in JFK from DXB, Im a US citizen with GE. Passed thru the new facial recognition GE kiosk fine, the agent collecting the slip before baggage claim asked me normal questions such as- where am I coming from, how long away, did I bring any food back etc. I said no, no food or any purchases, she welcomed me home.
Picked up my one checked bag and was walking out through customs when an agent pulled me aside and asked where Im coming from, how long Ive been gone, purpose of travel etc. Then he requests to search my luggage, which he does and finds nothing suspicious because there is nothing.
He then types something into his computer for a few minutes and scans my passport and lets me go.
I just want to know if this will cause any issues for my GE and Precheck moving forward? First time having this random search in my 7+ years of having GE, and countless international trips over the years.
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Sorry to revive an old thread but seems an
appropriate place to ask.
Just arrived in JFK from DXB, Im a US citizen with GE. Passed thru the new facial recognition GE kiosk fine, the agent collecting the slip before baggage claim asked me normal questions such as- where am I coming from, how long away, did I bring any food back etc. I said no, no food or any purchases, she welcomed me home.
Picked up my one checked bag and was walking out through customs when an agent pulled me aside and asked where Im coming from, how long Ive been gone, purpose of travel etc. Then he requests to search my luggage, which he does and finds nothing suspicious because there is nothing.
He then types something into his computer for a few minutes and scans my passport and lets me go.
I just want to know if this will cause any issues for my GE and Precheck moving forward? First time having this random search in my 7+ years of having GE, and countless international trips over the years.
appropriate place to ask.
Just arrived in JFK from DXB, Im a US citizen with GE. Passed thru the new facial recognition GE kiosk fine, the agent collecting the slip before baggage claim asked me normal questions such as- where am I coming from, how long away, did I bring any food back etc. I said no, no food or any purchases, she welcomed me home.
Picked up my one checked bag and was walking out through customs when an agent pulled me aside and asked where Im coming from, how long Ive been gone, purpose of travel etc. Then he requests to search my luggage, which he does and finds nothing suspicious because there is nothing.
He then types something into his computer for a few minutes and scans my passport and lets me go.
I just want to know if this will cause any issues for my GE and Precheck moving forward? First time having this random search in my 7+ years of having GE, and countless international trips over the years.
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Sorry to revive an old thread but seems an
appropriate place to ask.
Just arrived in JFK from DXB, Im a US citizen with GE. Passed thru the new facial recognition GE kiosk fine, the agent collecting the slip before baggage claim asked me normal questions such as- where am I coming from, how long away, did I bring any food back etc. I said no, no food or any purchases, she welcomed me home.
Picked up my one checked bag and was walking out through customs when an agent pulled me aside and asked where Im coming from, how long Ive been gone, purpose of travel etc. Then he requests to search my luggage, which he does and finds nothing suspicious because there is nothing.
He then types something into his computer for a few minutes and scans my passport and lets me go.
I just want to know if this will cause any issues for my GE and Precheck moving forward? First time having this random search in my 7+ years of having GE, and countless international trips over the years.
appropriate place to ask.
Just arrived in JFK from DXB, Im a US citizen with GE. Passed thru the new facial recognition GE kiosk fine, the agent collecting the slip before baggage claim asked me normal questions such as- where am I coming from, how long away, did I bring any food back etc. I said no, no food or any purchases, she welcomed me home.
Picked up my one checked bag and was walking out through customs when an agent pulled me aside and asked where Im coming from, how long Ive been gone, purpose of travel etc. Then he requests to search my luggage, which he does and finds nothing suspicious because there is nothing.
He then types something into his computer for a few minutes and scans my passport and lets me go.
I just want to know if this will cause any issues for my GE and Precheck moving forward? First time having this random search in my 7+ years of having GE, and countless international trips over the years.
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I think what annoyed me even more was that he didn't even try to repack the stuff even close to how he found it. Would leave pouches with chargers/toiletries half unzipped with stuff hanging out, would leave shoes out of the shoe bags they were in etc. Would just shove folded clothes into any open crevice he found. I was going home and was going to unpack anyway but still annoying.
When my bag has been pulled to the side at security check for extra screening the agents are always nice enough to put the stuff back how they found it.
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Just had my first secondary at GE at LAX coming in from LHR. I wonder if it was because i was so tired I just pushed the button to take my picture before inserting my passport
anyway, got the X and had to wait for about 20 minutes before an airport cop came to escort me to baggage claim to collect bags, then to baggage inspection. Felt bad for wife and kid who had to sit through all that with me. I feel better about the whole thing reading similar experiences here, but still wonder if there's something more on my record that they're not telling me despite the fact that they said this was a random inspection. I have a common name and prior to GE was often flagged at the border and asked if I had a tattoo on my upper left shoulder
anyway, got the X and had to wait for about 20 minutes before an airport cop came to escort me to baggage claim to collect bags, then to baggage inspection. Felt bad for wife and kid who had to sit through all that with me. I feel better about the whole thing reading similar experiences here, but still wonder if there's something more on my record that they're not telling me despite the fact that they said this was a random inspection. I have a common name and prior to GE was often flagged at the border and asked if I had a tattoo on my upper left shoulder
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So first time using "GE", but it was through DFW. The GE line was closed and we were directed to regular line. We got flagged (maybe me, not sure but we were in a group of 2) for secondary inspection. C #2 was all I could see on the sheet. Anyway, they x-rayed our two checked bags and 2 carryons. Officer noticed I had pills in my carryon so I had to dig them out and show prescriptions. One of the labels had fallen off (the pharmacy one as they can't cover up the drug information) so I had to dig up my CVS pharmacy app to show the prescription (not a controlled substance, it was Zolft/sertraline). And then sent us on our way. He said I needed to make sure I had the prescription label next time (sorry don't know where it fell off during the trip, it was there when started).
So not sure what C #2 means, or what impact, if any, it'll be on future trips. Unfortunately this probably caused us to miss our flight (not really sure because by the time American got our bags onto the carousel, the flight was already boarding, and we still hadn't cleared TSA and made it to the other concourse).
So not sure what C #2 means, or what impact, if any, it'll be on future trips. Unfortunately this probably caused us to miss our flight (not really sure because by the time American got our bags onto the carousel, the flight was already boarding, and we still hadn't cleared TSA and made it to the other concourse).
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I got secondary at CLT yesterday - my voucher say BCC - not sure what it means.
GE Machine gave me an 'X' which triggered the whole thing. They may not have many foreign nationals to check I suppose.
GE Machine gave me an 'X' which triggered the whole thing. They may not have many foreign nationals to check I suppose.
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In CBP terminology, BCC generally refers to Border crossing cards, short-term, multiple-entry, nonimmigrant,10-year visas that are issued to certain Mexican citizens for business or tourism. I strongly suspect that does not apply to your situation. Were you arriving from Mexico?
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Was BCC the reference code on the Global Entry slip?
In CBP terminology, BCC generally refers to Border crossing cards, short-term, multiple-entry, nonimmigrant,10-year visas that are issued to certain Mexican citizens for business or tourism. I strongly suspect that does not apply to your situation. Were you arriving from Mexico?
In CBP terminology, BCC generally refers to Border crossing cards, short-term, multiple-entry, nonimmigrant,10-year visas that are issued to certain Mexican citizens for business or tourism. I strongly suspect that does not apply to your situation. Were you arriving from Mexico?

