it's all a matter of where you start reading something!

I would emphasize utilization for the best way for AA to maximize the value out of the 788. at first there will be teething problems, but the 788 would make a great transatlantic plane flying a rt in 24 hours.

For Asia, AA's issue is the configuration of their planes are too premium heavy. if the 788s go transatlantic, what would make sense would be the US A332s going transpacific, particularly LAX. fewer J seats, strong J product (similar to 77w and better than ngbc), lower cost than 772 to operate.

GRU, EZE, GIG and SCL should stick with 777s/763 as the long overnight is a waste of the 788s fuel efficiency.

Suffice to say; when you read what the 2 new routes are, you'll see that AA feels almost 100% polar opposite of your thinking/theorizing- it's almost uncanny

Bookmark this post and you'll see what I mean.

Jon - are you saying the first two routes will be Asia?

Sounds like Sydney.

One will.

Oh, no-- nothing sexy like that! Places AA already flies.

Hmmm, given the one-sided KE codeshare announcement to DFW (and the implication that KE pulls out of that route in the foreseeable future)...a daily 788 to supplement the 772 on that route doesn't sound so far off.

JonNYC, can you give us any indication on when the announcement might be made?

I've said it here before, it totally makes sense the 787s will be on American's Asian routes. We all know that with the exception of DFW-NRT and likely now DFW-HKG, American's Pacific flights aren't doing all too well. The all too premium heavy, especially in F class, 777s are the wrong aircraft for flights like LAX-PVG, DFW-PVG, ORD-PEK, and the future DFW-PEK. Just look at MileSAAver rewards. Before United placed the Dreamliner on LAX-NRT and LAX-PVG, the flights were bleeding red ink. Within a year of flying the 787-8 on the routes, United stated they were solidly profitable. Kirby stated on the earnings call that with lower fuel prices, he expects ALL Pacific flights to be profitable for the full year. I still find it hard to believe that continuing to fly the all too premium heavy 777s with 14 F Class seats will be profitable with rather low fuel prices. With it being all but confirmed the Dreamliners will be doing Pacific flying, you can kiss sAAver reward space goodbye and upgrades much becoming much more difficult. With all this being said, I still see DFW-ICN remaining a 777 due to the good demand. Hell, just look at what KE did today with American. DFW-ICN is probably the only Pacific route where American has competition and they are beating that competition.

For announcement for the international routes, can't say I have the slightest idea!

For the domestic orientation flights, those will, indeed be ORD-DFW and that will be public quite soon.

You're such a tease

Its not sydney i can say that for sure. the JBA with QF prevents it.

That's most certainly not the reason AA is not flying to SYD with it's new 787s.

I generally take ground staff chatter (HKG ground staff), with a grain of salt, but I've been hearing about it more and more lately about AA opening up HKG-LAX. Let's see if it happens. 788 would be ideal.

Speaking strictly of the 2 routes to be announced with the first 2 787s-- that 'aint one of 'em.

Oh there's a tease. Leaves open - in fact positively hints - that that could be a route started with later 788 deliveries.

Bring it on, I'm loving both the speculation and the anticipation of new routes where my waitlisted SWUs will fail to clear