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#3466
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The LH group NEK seats do recline. And to be honest, I'm not sure why everybody hates them that much? I find them to be quite okay and even better than some of the real old worn out SK seats. I find it quite nice that they are so thin and flexible, I use it as a cheap man's swinging chair at 35.000 feet
Sure, a little bit more room for the knees would be nice but since I'm not a giant (just 1,75m) I do not have a problem.
Sure, a little bit more room for the knees would be nice but since I'm not a giant (just 1,75m) I do not have a problem.
#3467
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Oh yes now I remember - if someone around 100kg sitting in front of you, the seat will recline automatically. The NEK was claustrophobic - I'm certainly not big and the guy sitting next to me was not big either, but he took my armrest and about 1/4 of his body was on my seat. I guess that guy will find those seats ok but if 2 of those guys sitting next to each other then I think they won't think it's ok anymore.
Sometimes the spilling over is not caused by actual size, but just lack of consideration. Like reading a broadsheet newspaper the same way as in the living room at home, or sitting at a slant...
#3468
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Copenhagen, Denmark
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The minimum bid for CHP - Shanghai was 115 .
I bid but cancelled later as my son wasn't interested in an upgrade....
He has just left this evening for Hong Kong via Shanghai and he'll be gone for 11 months.
I hope he'll come back for a visit or I'll have to consider a long-haul flight which I hate.
On the other hand it would help me very much in my quest for re-qualifying for Gold....
I bid but cancelled later as my son wasn't interested in an upgrade....
He has just left this evening for Hong Kong via Shanghai and he'll be gone for 11 months.
I hope he'll come back for a visit or I'll have to consider a long-haul flight which I hate.
On the other hand it would help me very much in my quest for re-qualifying for Gold....
#3469
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The minimum bid for CHP - Shanghai was 115 .
I bid but cancelled later as my son wasn't interested in an upgrade....
He has just left this evening for Hong Kong via Shanghai and he'll be gone for 11 months.
I hope he'll come back for a visit or I'll have to consider a long-haul flight which I hate.
On the other hand it would help me very much in my quest for re-qualifying for Gold....
I bid but cancelled later as my son wasn't interested in an upgrade....
He has just left this evening for Hong Kong via Shanghai and he'll be gone for 11 months.
I hope he'll come back for a visit or I'll have to consider a long-haul flight which I hate.
On the other hand it would help me very much in my quest for re-qualifying for Gold....
I met Mr. when he was an exchange student at my university in the UK - my parents expect me to return to Hong Kong after my degree.....nope, I moved to Denmark after my graduation to be with him and married him and live happily thereafter
This would definitely helps you to become lifetime EBD!
#3470
Join Date: Oct 2013
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Yes, I'm sure Hong Kong is a very interesting city for young people and he has been looking forward to going there very much.
He is in particular looking forward to gorging on the food.
11 months is not too long - we just had an 'empty nest' moment at home last night....
He has arrived, unfortunately his luggage hasn't - it decided to have a layover in Shanghai.
He is in particular looking forward to gorging on the food.
11 months is not too long - we just had an 'empty nest' moment at home last night....
He has arrived, unfortunately his luggage hasn't - it decided to have a layover in Shanghai.
#3473
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Yes, I'm sure Hong Kong is a very interesting city for young people and he has been looking forward to going there very much.
He is in particular looking forward to gorging on the food.
11 months is not too long - we just had an 'empty nest' moment at home last night....
He has arrived, unfortunately his luggage hasn't - it decided to have a layover in Shanghai.
He is in particular looking forward to gorging on the food.
11 months is not too long - we just had an 'empty nest' moment at home last night....
He has arrived, unfortunately his luggage hasn't - it decided to have a layover in Shanghai.
My kids don't have the privileges as they are going to school in Sweden - and they have to put up with the awful school food (they are going to a private school that the school is trying to make very experimental food and I tried it and I had to hold my breath to eat it). I'm trying to teach them Cantonese at home and maybe they can live in Hong Kong when they grow up.
Right now I want them to grow up and get out of my live - especially after I missed SK's offer to DC for 2300 SEK per ticket - right after thanksgiving
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I was told to expect that Faroese is more similar to Icelandic than Danish, but that Faroese is rather different even from Icelandic despite both being Scandinavian languages too. But the Swedes and Danes and Norwegians I know have a very tough time understanding a bunch of Icelandic. John Kerry should know a few more words of Icelandic by the next sunrise although he seems to know no Faroese.
And let's just say the few Danes, Norwegians and Swedes I have asked know more Americans than Faroese people, so they couldn't tell me.
And let's just say the few Danes, Norwegians and Swedes I have asked know more Americans than Faroese people, so they couldn't tell me.
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#3475
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I was told to expect that Faroese is more similar to Icelandic than Danish, but that Faroese is rather different even from Icelandic despite both being Scandinavian languages too. But the Swedes and Danes and Norwegians I know have a very tough time understanding a bunch of Icelandic. John Kerry should know a few more words of Icelandic by the next sunrise although he seems to know no Faroese.
And let's just say the few Danes, Norwegians and Swedes I have asked know more Americans than Faroese people, so they couldn't tell me.
And let's just say the few Danes, Norwegians and Swedes I have asked know more Americans than Faroese people, so they couldn't tell me.
Both Icelandic and Faroese can kind of speak Danish as it's their second language. I was told that Icelandic is ancient Danish that Danes spoke about 1000 years ago. It's true because you can see Jelling stone and some other Viking ruin had those old words on it.
#3476
Join Date: Mar 2005
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West Scandinavian vs. East Scandinavian
Icelandic and Faroese can understand each other, you can hear them arguing about sheep vs reindeer herding in Danish dormitory. I asked my tour guide while I was on a local tour in Iceland about Icelandic and Faroese and he said they can talk to each other and understand each other, I gues it's like Swedish and Danish.
Both Icelandic and Faroese can kind of speak Danish as it's their second language. I was told that Icelandic is ancient Danish that Danes spoke about 1000 years ago. It's true because you can see Jelling stone and some other Viking ruin had those old words on it.
Both Icelandic and Faroese can kind of speak Danish as it's their second language. I was told that Icelandic is ancient Danish that Danes spoke about 1000 years ago. It's true because you can see Jelling stone and some other Viking ruin had those old words on it.
Faroese and Icelandic (as well as the extinct Norn of the Shetlands and Orkneys) are West Scandinavian langauges. Danish and Swedish are East Scandinavian langauges. Norwegian historically was a West Scandinavian langauge, but influences from Swedish and (especially) Danish makes modern Norwegian more a East Scandinavian langauge. Spoken Norwegian, especially in Western Norway has much of the same sound as Icelandic (e.g. more diphthongs).
I remember from my military basic training, that one of the other recruits was a guy from Nordfjord who studied in Iceland. Early in the morning, before everyone was properly awake he liked to speak to people in Icelandic, which sounded just as his native dialect, but was completely incomprehensible.
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#3477
Join Date: Oct 2011
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I have a hard time with people calling Swedish and Danish similar languages or that two people who speak both can communicate with each other. I don't find that to be the reality today, perhaps with older generations but at least folks from Stockholm and specifically younger ones really struggle with spoken Danish. To the extend that most meetings between Swedish and Danish businesses is typically done in English today, at least in my experience.
There is a considerably smaller gap between spoken Swedish and Norwegian than there is between spoken Swedish and Danish. Folks from the rural southern parts of Sweden will be having an easier time with Danish because the dialect is closer.
Written the languages are very similar but it is amazing how some countries/regions have developed dialects that butcher the languages into barbarian grunting.
There is a considerably smaller gap between spoken Swedish and Norwegian than there is between spoken Swedish and Danish. Folks from the rural southern parts of Sweden will be having an easier time with Danish because the dialect is closer.
Written the languages are very similar but it is amazing how some countries/regions have developed dialects that butcher the languages into barbarian grunting.
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Faroese and Icelandic are more closely related to each other than to Swedish, Danish (and to a lesser extent) Norwegian.
Faroese and Icelandic (as well as the extinct Norn of the Shetlands and Orkneys)are West Scandinavian langauges. Danish and Swedish are East Scandinavian langauges. Norwegian historically was a West Scandinavian langauge, but influences from Swedish and (especially Danish) makes modern Norwegian more a East Scandinavian langauge. Spoken Norwegian, especially in Wester Norway has much of the same sound as Icelandic (e.g. more diphthongs).
I remember from my military basic training, that one of the other recruits was a guy from Nordfjord who studied in Iceland. Early in the morning, before everyone was awake he liked to speak to people in Icelandic, which sounded just as his native dialect, but was completely incomprehensible.
Faroese and Icelandic (as well as the extinct Norn of the Shetlands and Orkneys)are West Scandinavian langauges. Danish and Swedish are East Scandinavian langauges. Norwegian historically was a West Scandinavian langauge, but influences from Swedish and (especially Danish) makes modern Norwegian more a East Scandinavian langauge. Spoken Norwegian, especially in Wester Norway has much of the same sound as Icelandic (e.g. more diphthongs).
I remember from my military basic training, that one of the other recruits was a guy from Nordfjord who studied in Iceland. Early in the morning, before everyone was awake he liked to speak to people in Icelandic, which sounded just as his native dialect, but was completely incomprehensible.
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I think part of the issue is that even as the bridge has closed the gap between the countries, media consumption has become more Swedish+English when several decades ago it was more Swedish+Danish than it is now.
#3480
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I reached out to a Faroese contact and was told that Icelandic people asked to share accounts of what they were told in Faroese make such major mistakes that they do business together in English because it doesn't work like it does when the Danish-speaking Faroese speak Danish to communicate with Swedes or Norwegians. Amusingly, some of the Swedes I know have trouble with even Danish numbers and claim they don't understand that much spoken Danish despite their closest airport being in Denmark.
The numbers are a funny case, if people interact on a fairly regular basis with Danes I find it weird that they don't get used to the numbers. The logic is different, but then again learning a new language it usually only takes the first lesson or two to get the numbers.