You might have had someone believing your rant until you came away with this obvious lie that has been proven false by the relevant authorities on investigation.

EXACTLY - I have been at MAN on numerous occassions with women/young women/girls (sorry to be sexist but it mainly is), furiously going into their handluggage and removing items of clothing and then wearing about 5 pieces extra - for what a day or two in Dublin or similar. Or my idiot S-I-L who should have known better not OLCI until about 3 hours before the flight etc.

Unfortunately there is no such thing as "obvious", so it would have been nice to detail or link. I'm always interested in broadening my knowledge and correct my mistakes if given the opportunity . But without any evidence here, I'm wondering if by "relevant authorities" you are referring to the intense counter-information campaign made by Ryanair to dismiss the allegations.
The "lie" (I'd call it a "fallacy"...) is to say they broke the law. No indeed they did not, those who say so are wrong. Playing around with rules is their speciality, so they know how to have the law on their side - not always though (cf. gross abuse of EU freedom of movement vs. establishment in France). They often carry the minimum legal requirement (and "50% of pilots choose to take more" dixit Ryanair management, well sorry even if that's true it's little), from that point of view they don't breach the law, yet they do potentially endanger people's lives* with risky behavior triggering emergency landings that ought not to be (*Be it for that matter or for exhausted FAs btw).
Of course, it doesn't take away any of their merit in proposing commercially competitive rates for a good on-time record that people are so happy with, at regional airports abandoned by legacy carriers which may be useful to many pax (but then again thanks in part to taxpayer money subsidizing the FR flights and blackmailing tactics).

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/briti...lub-world.html

Some people can't be pleased.

Oh I say, excellent internetting.
On a purely sexist note I also prefer the FAs on FR.Some damn fine East European babes as the annual Ryanair swimsuit calendar can attest to.

The treatment of these pax was an absolute disgrace. I don't care how much they paid for their ticket. In a previous life, I worked for an airline where the rule was that a couple of staff had to stay in the office until the plane was airborne half an hour just in case it returned and the pax needed looking after. In this case, the plane didn't even got off the ground yet everyone in Ryanair headed home. Ryanair should have had staff available to look after these pax. I have flown many times with Ryanair and things have been fine. But the simple fact is that its history is littered with many examples where Ryanair has shown that it literally does not give a flying **** when it comes to the fare paying public.

I think you need to remember leaving aside all the debates about extra charges, printing your own pass etc.

The fact remains this is a company who actually woke up and admitted they treat passengers like rubbish and need to change thier act as they started to lose ground to rivals such as Easyjet. When you have a boss who makes speeches they way he does and rubs everyone up the wrong way, it is not a good thing.
Time will tell if they actually change their ways.

Regardless if how much you pay for a ticket or what you expect I think we all have to be honest and admit if you were on that flight you would be pretty pissed off.

You are obviously au fait with the incidents and know where exactly the "lie" was, so don't need my links to familiarise yourself with it.

The Spanish Civil Aviation Accident and Incident Investigation Commission (CIAIAC) agreed if you want to know the relevant authorities.

Ryanair's positive spin on the incidents is to be expected and taken within an overall perspective of what happened. There was no need to scaremonger on this point, as it devalued what other issues you raised.

Petrus - I suspect there are people that would happily allow Ryanair to physically flagellate them in their seats if the price was right and the plane got there on time. There may even be some out there that take perverse pleasure in going with the Fawlty Towers of the skies. And therefore FR will continue to exist, with a capital 'F', and there's no point trying to dissuade them.

I guess I have no major axe to grind here as I've never personally been the victim of their legendary approach to customer service. I simply choose not to put myself at risk of that happening, and go with other carriers instead. Incidents like the one in your OP are just a reminder to me why I avoid them. To everyone else that doesn't, I wish you continued luck!

I don't fly them, as I prefer not to fly someone who works so hard to keep unions out their business, even to threatening and intimidating staff who want to start one.

http://www.irishtimes.com/business/s...-rpg-1.1568198

The point that those who actually fly Ryanair regularly are making is that it is not the Fawlty Towers of the skies. They are an efficient no-frills airline who do what they say they'll do, and no more. Frequently to/from airports that were hardly served at all before, let alone cheaply.

I suspect most of the militantly anti-Ryanair types are near to airports where they have multiple choices - good for them. On the other hand, I recently heard a young woman from Bergamo (although not that far from MXP or LIN) rhapsodising about Ryanair, saying they had opened up the world for her. If flagellation was involved, she wasn't telling.

This post is useless without pics

So I found some
here, and here, and here

Now that's excellent internetting!

I was wondering whether the EC261/2004 should not be limited to tickets above, say, 100 euros (including taxes and fees). While it's terrible for the affected pacs to be stranded like this at STN, opting to fly (ultra)-LCC should come with the understanding being treating like cattle� In any case, I am more than happy that the last flight I took with FR is almost a decade ago and never again.

There are emergency exits on Ryanair planes.

Full power to the police for getting them off the plane quickly, and breaking into the airport.

However I was under the impression that the police were allowed to check passports and let people in the country. On that flight of be very surprised of there was more than a handful of non eu citizens.

Indeed g4s were approving people to fly on a domestic flight last night at lhr, based on their opinion of a driving license or passport photo.

However these things happen. How soon we forget
http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22717377 - British Airways passengers sleep at Venice airport

€250 compensation and something on top of that (Ryanair Avios?) for the illegal treatment.

Or you could try a criminal charge against the pilot.

These people hadn't actually left the country. We have no outbound Immigration checks, there is no international airside area at STN, nor does STN do airside transfers... so if you're departing from STN surely you're in the UK until your aircraft leaves the ground?