Radisson Best Price guarantee
#466
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: MRY/SFO/SJC
Programs: AS MVP, Hilton Diamond, IHG Gold
Posts: 7,784
If the OTA is big enough to have country sites or it's a pay at hotel rate - then currency shouldn't be a problem.
Beware: even the rate is cancellable, if you book flex rate you need to compare to a rate that you use your CC to guarantee the room. So any prepayment rate will be denied - regardless of their cancellation term.
I wrote on their FB to complain because the very same rate will be approved by most other chains. They honoured my claims at the end.
It's like a scam to me.
Beware: even the rate is cancellable, if you book flex rate you need to compare to a rate that you use your CC to guarantee the room. So any prepayment rate will be denied - regardless of their cancellation term.
I wrote on their FB to complain because the very same rate will be approved by most other chains. They honoured my claims at the end.
It's like a scam to me.
I was not specifically looking for BRGable rooms for my trip. Location is of the utmost importance. I am not willing to jump through as many hoops anymore when programs make it harder and harder to truly get a guarantee better/lower rate. I mean, the rate I found above, at a Radisson Blu, is a difference of $89. That's not some 1%-3% currency conversion fluctuation. It shouldn't matter who bills in which currency. That was a seriously vast difference.
No thanks, Club Carlson. I'll happily spend a little more somewhere else.
#467
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: CPH
Programs: UAMP S, TK M&S E (*G), Marriott LTP, IHG P, SK EBG
Posts: 11,095
My Renaissance LNF was approved no problem. The adjusted daily rate including taxes is ~$150 per night for a club level room.
I was not specifically looking for BRGable rooms for my trip. Location is of the utmost importance. I am not willing to jump through as many hoops anymore when programs make it harder and harder to truly get a guarantee better/lower rate. I mean, the rate I found above, at a Radisson Blu, is a difference of $89. That's not some 1%-3% currency conversion fluctuation. It shouldn't matter who bills in which currency. That was a seriously vast difference.
No thanks, Club Carlson. I'll happily spend a little more somewhere else.
I was not specifically looking for BRGable rooms for my trip. Location is of the utmost importance. I am not willing to jump through as many hoops anymore when programs make it harder and harder to truly get a guarantee better/lower rate. I mean, the rate I found above, at a Radisson Blu, is a difference of $89. That's not some 1%-3% currency conversion fluctuation. It shouldn't matter who bills in which currency. That was a seriously vast difference.
No thanks, Club Carlson. I'll happily spend a little more somewhere else.
I'd normally go for Marriott but in this situation Marriott will cost 4 times as much as I'll need a second room - furthermore I couldn't even find LNF possibilities.
#468
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: SIN/BNE
Posts: 816
Any way to lodge a complain regarding incompetent staff? Its simple english and they don't understand? Jesus!
Here's my email to them about the brg claim.
[email protected]
Wed 8/17/2016 6:14 AM
To:
Dear,
We apologize for the inconvenience, although we are unable to approve
the claim if each site does not include taxes. We are not able to
determine what the total taxes would be to ensure that the rates are
different.
Regards,
Alaina M.
Online Customer Care Specialist
Carlson Rezidor Hotel Group
3154292
Original Message Follows: ------------------------
From:
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: New Rate Claim Received
Date: August 15, 2016 10:43:12 AM CDT
Good day,
The current rate of my reservation is 960,000.00 IDR plus applicable
Fees and Taxes however, the rate on agoda is 960000.00 IDR including
applicable fees and taxes or 793,388 IDR + taxes, which is lower than
the rate found on your website.
Regards
From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2016 11:26:54 PM
To: P
Subject: Re: New Rate Claim Received
Dear ,
We appreciate your submission of a Best Rates Guarantee claim.
We researched your claim and the lowest rate found for your room type
was 960000.00 IDR, 793,388 IDR + tax. Because of this we are unable to
approve your claim.
Thank you for submission.
Regards,
Jessica S. | Online Customer Support Specialist, Carlson Rezidor Hotel
Group
3154292
Here's my email to them about the brg claim.
[email protected]
Wed 8/17/2016 6:14 AM
To:
Dear,
We apologize for the inconvenience, although we are unable to approve
the claim if each site does not include taxes. We are not able to
determine what the total taxes would be to ensure that the rates are
different.
Regards,
Alaina M.
Online Customer Care Specialist
Carlson Rezidor Hotel Group
3154292
Original Message Follows: ------------------------
From:
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: New Rate Claim Received
Date: August 15, 2016 10:43:12 AM CDT
Good day,
The current rate of my reservation is 960,000.00 IDR plus applicable
Fees and Taxes however, the rate on agoda is 960000.00 IDR including
applicable fees and taxes or 793,388 IDR + taxes, which is lower than
the rate found on your website.
Regards
From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2016 11:26:54 PM
To: P
Subject: Re: New Rate Claim Received
Dear ,
We appreciate your submission of a Best Rates Guarantee claim.
We researched your claim and the lowest rate found for your room type
was 960000.00 IDR, 793,388 IDR + tax. Because of this we are unable to
approve your claim.
Thank you for submission.
Regards,
Jessica S. | Online Customer Support Specialist, Carlson Rezidor Hotel
Group
3154292
#469
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: CPH
Programs: UAMP S, TK M&S E (*G), Marriott LTP, IHG P, SK EBG
Posts: 11,095
#470
Join Date: Sep 1999
Location: New York
Posts: 199
Would you believe that Raddison customer service after more than a week of correspondence has still not accepted their Best Rate Guarantee, despite this message I received directly from the hotel in Bratislava and forwarded to them:
Thank you very much for your e-mail and informing us about this website offer. The FTI agency are selling the rooms below our cost level and I already report this breach of contract to the account manager.
Besides, a week later the nearly 50% lower rates are still available through multiple agencies, easily visible on Kayak, e.g.
This reflects another bad experience like the many reported here in this forum already.
Thank you very much for your e-mail and informing us about this website offer. The FTI agency are selling the rooms below our cost level and I already report this breach of contract to the account manager.
Besides, a week later the nearly 50% lower rates are still available through multiple agencies, easily visible on Kayak, e.g.
This reflects another bad experience like the many reported here in this forum already.
#471
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: India
Programs: Star Alliance Gold, SkyTeam Elite Plus, Hilton Gold
Posts: 907
I had a (nearly) perfect BRG experience. Following is the timeline:
T:00 - Booked a room at Radisson Blu Pune, India. 2 nights. INR 6847 per night including taxes. Standard room with Breakfast and 48 hour cancellation policy.
T+01 hour - Found a better rate on www.cleartrip.com for the exact same conditions. INR 4418 per night including taxes. Took screenshots of all booking process pages and specifically, of those which displayed rate rules.
T+02 hours - Filled out the online BRG form and attached screenshot in their (stupidly restricted) file formats.
Did not receive a confirmation email for the same.
T+50 hours - Emailed all the email addresses I could find on this thread, outlining concisely the facts and attached the screenshots. Immediately received an acknowledgement from [email protected] .
T+55 hours - Received a response from [email protected] . Advised me that they found the lower rate on another website and adjusted my rate to INR 3681 + taxes.
I did not understand their calculations. Tax inclusive rate should have been lowered to (4418/1.25) = INR 3534.
Tax exclusive rate should be (3534/1.19) = INR 2970. (Taxes are 19%).
T+63 hours - Replied to their email, outlining my calculations and requesting a readjustment to the rate.
-------Weekend------
T+107 hours - Received a reply along the lines of "We have already lowered your rate. (What more do you want? )"
T+108 hours - Replied and outlined my calculations step by step. Attached screenshots again and asked them to check my calculations and if correct, readjust the rate.
T+109 hours - Received a reply indicating my calculations were correct and my new adjusted rate is INR 2982 + taxes.
Checked my reservation and as indicated by many posters on this thread, it indeed indicates a room rate of INR 0.00 now and this appears under Special Requests :
"VALID BORG: 4909 - 19% taxes = 3976.29 3976.29 - 25% discount = 2982.22 (new rate)"
Also received this email from hotel:
"Your reservation has been adjusted for your stay at Radisson Blu Hotel Pune Kharadi. Your confirmation number is XXXXXX. Please find the details of the adjusted reservation below. Thank you for choosing our hotel and we look forward to welcoming you soon.
Reservation Summary
Confirmation: # XXXXXX
Guest Name: JOHN DOE
Arrival Date: November XX, 2016
Departure Date: November XX, 2016
Rate:
November XX, 2016 0.00 INR City View Standard Room
November XX, 2016 0.00 INR City View Standard Room
Subtotal: 0.00 INR Plus applicable Fees and Taxes **"
All in all, pretty much went as I expected from reading this thread. Would have been faster but for the weekend.
Tl;dr:
1) Take screenshots of competitor booking site at every stage as soon as you spot a better rate. Make sure to include system time/date in them.
2) If confirmation email doesn't arrive after submitting BRG claim online, it hasn't reached them yet, email them.
3) Even after they reduce your rate, do your calculations and check if these match. If not, reply to them with concise calculations and be politely insistent. They will honor it.
T:00 - Booked a room at Radisson Blu Pune, India. 2 nights. INR 6847 per night including taxes. Standard room with Breakfast and 48 hour cancellation policy.
T+01 hour - Found a better rate on www.cleartrip.com for the exact same conditions. INR 4418 per night including taxes. Took screenshots of all booking process pages and specifically, of those which displayed rate rules.
T+02 hours - Filled out the online BRG form and attached screenshot in their (stupidly restricted) file formats.
Did not receive a confirmation email for the same.
T+50 hours - Emailed all the email addresses I could find on this thread, outlining concisely the facts and attached the screenshots. Immediately received an acknowledgement from [email protected] .
T+55 hours - Received a response from [email protected] . Advised me that they found the lower rate on another website and adjusted my rate to INR 3681 + taxes.
I did not understand their calculations. Tax inclusive rate should have been lowered to (4418/1.25) = INR 3534.
Tax exclusive rate should be (3534/1.19) = INR 2970. (Taxes are 19%).
T+63 hours - Replied to their email, outlining my calculations and requesting a readjustment to the rate.
-------Weekend------
T+107 hours - Received a reply along the lines of "We have already lowered your rate. (What more do you want? )"
T+108 hours - Replied and outlined my calculations step by step. Attached screenshots again and asked them to check my calculations and if correct, readjust the rate.
T+109 hours - Received a reply indicating my calculations were correct and my new adjusted rate is INR 2982 + taxes.
Checked my reservation and as indicated by many posters on this thread, it indeed indicates a room rate of INR 0.00 now and this appears under Special Requests :
"VALID BORG: 4909 - 19% taxes = 3976.29 3976.29 - 25% discount = 2982.22 (new rate)"
Also received this email from hotel:
"Your reservation has been adjusted for your stay at Radisson Blu Hotel Pune Kharadi. Your confirmation number is XXXXXX. Please find the details of the adjusted reservation below. Thank you for choosing our hotel and we look forward to welcoming you soon.
Reservation Summary
Confirmation: # XXXXXX
Guest Name: JOHN DOE
Arrival Date: November XX, 2016
Departure Date: November XX, 2016
Rate:
November XX, 2016 0.00 INR City View Standard Room
November XX, 2016 0.00 INR City View Standard Room
Subtotal: 0.00 INR Plus applicable Fees and Taxes **"
All in all, pretty much went as I expected from reading this thread. Would have been faster but for the weekend.
Tl;dr:
1) Take screenshots of competitor booking site at every stage as soon as you spot a better rate. Make sure to include system time/date in them.
2) If confirmation email doesn't arrive after submitting BRG claim online, it hasn't reached them yet, email them.
3) Even after they reduce your rate, do your calculations and check if these match. If not, reply to them with concise calculations and be politely insistent. They will honor it.
#472
was jgoggan
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Michigan, USA
Programs: WN 650k+CP; BA 200k; AA 200k; HHonors 450k; IHG 300k Plat; Bonvoy 250k; Rad 225k
Posts: 203
It's a bit funny that we're used to it being such a hassle that we call it "(nearly) perfect" when you: don't get a response at first and have to email again and then have to contact them multiple times to correct a math error on their part.
"nearly perfect" indeed! ;-)
- John...
"nearly perfect" indeed! ;-)
- John...
#473
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: India
Programs: Star Alliance Gold, SkyTeam Elite Plus, Hilton Gold
Posts: 907
It's a bit funny that we're used to it being such a hassle that we call it "(nearly) perfect" when you: don't get a response at first and have to email again and then have to contact them multiple times to correct a math error on their part.
"nearly perfect" indeed! ;-)
- John...
"nearly perfect" indeed! ;-)
- John...
So when small glitches like late responses/mathematical errors occured, it was just a regular day at work for me.
#475
Join Date: Aug 2011
Programs: Marriott Gold, Hilton Diamond, Radisson Rewards Gold, Best Western Diamond Select
Posts: 1,856
Just put in BRG claim for Radisson Decapolis Panama City, $139 on site $106 on Priceline/Booking.com. Let's see what happens.
Update: No response after 60 hours, just sent emails to bpg, omahacsissuereview, and emea.
Update 2: Received very fast response from EMEA, claim rejected because Radisson website includes $25 of casino credit.
Update 3: E-mailed hotel directly, they matched the price to Priceline's price. I'm okay with that.
Update: No response after 60 hours, just sent emails to bpg, omahacsissuereview, and emea.
Update 2: Received very fast response from EMEA, claim rejected because Radisson website includes $25 of casino credit.
Update 3: E-mailed hotel directly, they matched the price to Priceline's price. I'm okay with that.
Last edited by slickvik; Jan 20, 2017 at 11:15 am
#476
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Helsinki
Programs: AY Platinum
Posts: 303
Just tried the BRG for the first time.
Booked a Park Plaza in Asia and I found a significantly cheaper (20-30%) price on hotels.com. The first response I got was a no due to the fact that I have booked a room with a breakfast! ("Per our Best Rates Guarantee terms and conditions, the guarantee does not apply to package rates that include the room and other components, such as meals, amenities and entertainment.") This of course does not make any sense to begin with - and also the BRG T&C explicitly state that a breakfast doesn't mean that a rate would be considered to be a package rate.
This is also what I replied to them and got denied again, this time because the hotels.com rate includes a breakfast while my direct booking does not. This was not true either as both rates include breakfast. I asked them to take a third look at my case after which they accepted my claim. The whole process took approx. 6 days.
The end result is that I got my room for a good rate but I'm still a bit disappointed with how the claim was handled. It feels disloyal and deceiving. One mistake would be understandable but especially the first one, claiming that rate with a breakfast would be a "disqualified package rate" is an elementary mistake in my opinion.
Booked a Park Plaza in Asia and I found a significantly cheaper (20-30%) price on hotels.com. The first response I got was a no due to the fact that I have booked a room with a breakfast! ("Per our Best Rates Guarantee terms and conditions, the guarantee does not apply to package rates that include the room and other components, such as meals, amenities and entertainment.") This of course does not make any sense to begin with - and also the BRG T&C explicitly state that a breakfast doesn't mean that a rate would be considered to be a package rate.
This is also what I replied to them and got denied again, this time because the hotels.com rate includes a breakfast while my direct booking does not. This was not true either as both rates include breakfast. I asked them to take a third look at my case after which they accepted my claim. The whole process took approx. 6 days.
The end result is that I got my room for a good rate but I'm still a bit disappointed with how the claim was handled. It feels disloyal and deceiving. One mistake would be understandable but especially the first one, claiming that rate with a breakfast would be a "disqualified package rate" is an elementary mistake in my opinion.
#477
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 14
Ok, now I'm really confused.
My claim was denied because (what I thought they meant) the competetive rate was a "member rate". I showed that the rate I found on booking.com was clearly not a member rate (was not logged in, and also whenever booking.com has "member rates" it clearly says so). Now I get an answer that the claim is rejected because the rate I booked at clubcarlson.com is a "member rate"?!?
So, are you not allowed to be a clubcarlson member and make BRG's? This makes no sense...
My claim was denied because (what I thought they meant) the competetive rate was a "member rate". I showed that the rate I found on booking.com was clearly not a member rate (was not logged in, and also whenever booking.com has "member rates" it clearly says so). Now I get an answer that the claim is rejected because the rate I booked at clubcarlson.com is a "member rate"?!?
So, are you not allowed to be a clubcarlson member and make BRG's? This makes no sense...
#478
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 133
#479
Suspended
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: San Diego
Programs: Delta PLAT, Marriot Plat, IHG Plat, SPG Gold, A couple of other airlines - pee on
Posts: 623
Login in requirements
How did you guys get around the log in requirement. Don't most hotels sites require you to log in when booking?
- Any other unpublished or private rates or sites requiring login.
#480
Join Date: May 2010
Location: HKG / YVR
Programs: CX MPC GO, BAEC Silver, AC, HHonors Gold, SPG/Marriott Gold
Posts: 56
Have you guys tried to match using a "Pay at the Hotel" rate? I am booking a room in Sydney and I found a better "Pay at the Hotel" rate on expedia.com which quoted in USD (for ref only) and I will have to settle in AUD at the hotel. But then they've denied my claim as expedia.com shows the USD rate despite I am paying in AUD at the hotel...