Low Passenger Loads from Doha to Thailand destinations
Oct 19, 2017, 4:25 pm
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I've been twice to SE Asia in the last couple of weeks.
MAN <-> DOH were around half full, one of them much less than half.
The DOH <-> KUL, CGK were even less crowded
But the highlight was CGK DOH: one passenger in business-class and 33 of us spread around the economy cabin.
Existential crisis for QR?
MAN <-> DOH were around half full, one of them much less than half.
The DOH <-> KUL, CGK were even less crowded
But the highlight was CGK DOH: one passenger in business-class and 33 of us spread around the economy cabin.
Existential crisis for QR?
Oct 20, 2017, 5:03 am
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I tend to believe that the blockade has had a terrible effect on QR's loads. The KSA and UAE were QR's two largest feeder markets and that traffic has not been replaced. I flew QR last week and my flights were all less than half-full as well - the highlights being 36 pax on DOH-KUL 788 and 57 pax on DOH-PHL A350. The service was top notch with so few pax.
Oct 20, 2017, 5:07 am
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Oct 20, 2017, 7:39 am
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Still excellent loads on LAX (which I've flown twice roundtrip in the last two months) and BOS. Can't speak for JFK or ORD.
Oct 21, 2017, 2:40 am
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I've been twice to SE Asia in the last couple of weeks.
MAN <-> DOH were around half full, one of them much less than half.
The DOH <-> KUL, CGK were even less crowded
But the highlight was CGK DOH: one passenger in business-class and 33 of us spread around the economy cabin.
Existential crisis for QR?
MAN <-> DOH were around half full, one of them much less than half.
The DOH <-> KUL, CGK were even less crowded
But the highlight was CGK DOH: one passenger in business-class and 33 of us spread around the economy cabin.
Existential crisis for QR?
Routes to Thailand being empty is the fault of Qatar's revenue and marketing teams. (i.e. with right price and promotion flights to Krabi should not be empty)
Oct 21, 2017, 2:44 am
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It obviously depends on the route. I've always thought of PHL as a bit of an oddball for an international gateway. Not really that far from NYC or Washington. For O/D it has a fairly limited area. Much better options for both long haul international and domestic connections at LGA/JFK/EWR, BOS and DCA/IAD. So PHL doesn't shock me.
Still excellent loads on LAX (which I've flown twice roundtrip in the last two months) and BOS. Can't speak for JFK or ORD.
Still excellent loads on LAX (which I've flown twice roundtrip in the last two months) and BOS. Can't speak for JFK or ORD.
Oct 21, 2017, 7:57 am
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I think some routes like CGK and MNL have very heavy traffic of guest workers to other middle east countries. The blockage definitely has huge impact on the routes to Malaysia, Indonesia and the Philippines.
Routes to Thailand being empty is the fault of Qatar's revenue and marketing teams. (i.e. with right price and promotion flights to Krabi should not be empty)
Routes to Thailand being empty is the fault of Qatar's revenue and marketing teams. (i.e. with right price and promotion flights to Krabi should not be empty)
Oct 21, 2017, 12:14 pm
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They say micro-management from on high paralyses initiative.
Oct 22, 2017, 1:43 am
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Anyone's thoughts on how full the cabins might be for the following times/days
PHL-DOH early November on Wed morning
DOH-KUL Thursday afternoon
KUL -DOH Tuesday evening late November
DOH-PHL Tuesday overnight.
Any thoughts from past experience? Was wishing to change flying from JFK but these numbers sound much better.
PHL-DOH early November on Wed morning
DOH-KUL Thursday afternoon
KUL -DOH Tuesday evening late November
DOH-PHL Tuesday overnight.
Any thoughts from past experience? Was wishing to change flying from JFK but these numbers sound much better.
Oct 23, 2017, 5:54 am
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Shocking ammount of pax! Why not leave the plane on the ground and rebook clients on other flights? Might cost a bit of compensation, but saves a lot of fuel! Or does Qatar need the cargo space?
The poorest L/F I recently experienced was on a LO WAW-PRG flight some 3 weeks ago - 1 in C (no me, though
) / 15 in Y
Oct 23, 2017, 6:23 am
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Oct 23, 2017, 9:32 am
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Anyone's thoughts on how full the cabins might be for the following times/days
PHL-DOH early November on Wed morning
DOH-KUL Thursday afternoon
KUL -DOH Tuesday evening late November
DOH-PHL Tuesday overnight.
Any thoughts from past experience? Was wishing to change flying from JFK but these numbers sound much better.
PHL-DOH early November on Wed morning
DOH-KUL Thursday afternoon
KUL -DOH Tuesday evening late November
DOH-PHL Tuesday overnight.
Any thoughts from past experience? Was wishing to change flying from JFK but these numbers sound much better.
Oct 23, 2017, 4:13 pm
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