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Old Jan 12, 2017, 2:31 pm
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QR fare rules for this one can be found here.

I have created a travel trips thread in the Japan forum. A good place to discuss hotels, trips, restaurants and maybe even arrange meet ups: The QR week(end) HND/NRT travel thread (2017)

Sorted by departure month:

November

Outbound
CPH-HND : 03/11/17 : denkigroove
LHR-HND : 03/11/17 : Cymro +1
BRU-NRT : 08/11/17 : mad_rich
AMS-NRT : 08.11.17 : jordie
AMS-HND : 13.11.17 UAPremierGuy
BRU-NRT : 15/11/17 : xtommox
AMS-HND : 15/11/17 : phoneticduck +1
AMS-NRT : 17/11/17 : polochick
BRU-NRT : 17/11/17 : Asserti+1 (DOH-NRT 18/11)
LHR-HND : 18/11/17 : justatourist
AMS-HND : 19/11/17 : Tennislover9
AMS-HND : 20.11.17 : travellingjake +2
LHR-NRT : 23/11/17 : Pilot37
LHR-HND : 23/11/17 : Carofos
AMS-NRT : 24/11/17 : island82


Inbound
HND-AMS : 05/11/17 : toastedcafe
HND-AMS : 11/11/17 : Cymro +1
NRT-AMS : 12.11.17 : jordie
HND-AMS : 19.11.17 : UAPremierGuy
HND-AMS : 21/11/17 : phoneticduck +1
NRT-BRU : 22/11/17 : mad_rich
NRT-BRU : 23/11/17 : Asserti+1 (DOH-BRU 25/11)
HND-AMS : 25/11/17 : denkigroove
HND-AMS : 26/11/17 : Tennislover9
HND-AMS : 26/11/17 : polochick
NRT-BRU : 26/11/17 : fbruno
HND-LHR : 27/11/17 : Pilot37
NRT-AMS : 28/11/17 : island82
NRT-BRU : 28/11/17 : xtommox
HND-LHR : 29/11/17 : Carofos
NRT-MAN : 30.11.17 : travellingjake +2


December

Outbound
BRU-HND : 04/12/17 : jlisi984 +2
AMS-NRT : 10/12/17 : NikaK +1

Inbound
NRT-AMS : 04/12/17 : justatourist
HND-AMS : 12/12/17 : jlisi984 +2
NRT-AMS : 14/12/17 : NikaK +1
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Old Aug 30, 2017, 5:08 pm
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Originally Posted by vonlance
Anyone feel that 1.5hours connection time at BRU is too short?

don't fancy spending too much time in the airport if i can help it

thanks
Positioning flight on separate ticket? You'd probably be fine 99% of the time, but I wouldn't risk that 1% for this fare.
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Old Aug 30, 2017, 5:16 pm
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yes positioning flight as i still need the 2 flights for BA status ;/

so i'll be 'leaving' to collect my luggage since BA change their rules last year.

will fast track make a difference?
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Old Aug 30, 2017, 10:00 pm
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Originally Posted by vonlance
Anyone feel that 1.5hours connection time at BRU is too short?

don't fancy spending too much time in the airport if i can help it

thanks
Are you flying from LHR to BRU? I am not a regular flyer from LHR but had probably about 50+% of my flights from LHR delayed in the past few years. It would be a shame to miss this flight because of some intra-Europe BA flight that is delayed. My advice would be to go for something in the 2.5-3hours range if available
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Old Aug 31, 2017, 12:42 am
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Originally Posted by hotwingz
Are you flying from LHR to BRU? I am not a regular flyer from LHR but had probably about 50+% of my flights from LHR delayed in the past few years. It would be a shame to miss this flight because of some intra-Europe BA flight that is delayed. My advice would be to go for something in the 2.5-3hours range if available
50%+? As a regular BA flyer from lhr I would say that was unlucky in the extreme.
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Old Aug 31, 2017, 3:01 am
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Originally Posted by KARFA
50%+? As a regular BA flyer from lhr I would say that was unlucky in the extreme.
I'd concur.

While you may leave LHR late, the flights usually make up the time en route - and short flights have significant padding built into them to allow for BA to still land ontime at places like AMS, BRU & CDG.

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Old Aug 31, 2017, 3:05 am
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Thanks all, i won't chance it and get the earlier flight into BRU from LHR.

i'm sure 3 hours in BRU won't be the end of the world.
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Old Aug 31, 2017, 6:08 am
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Originally Posted by hotwingz
Are you flying from LHR to BRU? I am not a regular flyer from LHR but had probably about 50+% of my flights from LHR delayed in the past few years. It would be a shame to miss this flight because of some intra-Europe BA flight that is delayed. My advice would be to go for something in the 2.5-3hours range if available
Originally Posted by KARFA
50%+? As a regular BA flyer from lhr I would say that was unlucky in the extreme.
Not at all: it depends on the sample size.

If the sample is only two flights, then it is quite reasonable for half the sample (one flight) to be delayed, even if the underlying probability of a single flight delay is very much less than 50%.

On the other hand, if the sample is 10,000 flights over a year, then the probability of the sample having a 50% delayed fraction is a different prospect altogether.



Oh sorry I forgot we were not on the BA board where my off topic ramblings are tolerated
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Old Aug 31, 2017, 7:07 am
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Originally Posted by Calchas
Not at all: it depends on the sample size.

If the sample is only two flights, then it is quite reasonable for half the sample (one flight) to be delayed, even if the underlying probability of a single flight delay is very much less than 50%.

On the other hand, if the sample is 10,000 flights over a year, then the probability of the sample having a 50% delayed fraction is a different prospect altogether.



Oh sorry I forgot we were not on the BA board where my off topic ramblings are tolerated
If the sample size is two then drawing any kind of conclusion about overall punctuality would not be realistic to start with.
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Old Aug 31, 2017, 7:08 am
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Originally Posted by vonlance
Thanks all, i won't chance it and get the earlier flight into BRU from LHR.

i'm sure 3 hours in BRU won't be the end of the world.
Sit back, grab a nice beer in the lounge.
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Old Aug 31, 2017, 10:17 am
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Originally Posted by armouredant
Sit back, grab a nice beer in the lounge.
I will do

Am i right in thinking QR will allow me to interline my bags with BA on the return to save having to leave the airport?
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Old Aug 31, 2017, 10:30 am
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Originally Posted by vonlance
I will do

Am i right in thinking QR will allow me to interline my bags with BA on the return to save having to leave the airport?
Yes, QR will check bags on to a separate oneworld ticket.

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28720355-post609.html
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Old Aug 31, 2017, 10:52 am
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Thanks Karfa,

I think i'll risk the 1.5hrs turnaround on the return journey if they will interline my bag.

i'm planning on hitting Tokyo and Osaka in 7 days so i'll be wiped out on the way back.
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Old Sep 3, 2017, 3:56 am
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Originally Posted by Calchas
Not at all: it depends on the sample size.

If the sample is only two flights, then it is quite reasonable for half the sample (one flight) to be delayed, even if the underlying probability of a single flight delay is very much less than 50%.

On the other hand, if the sample is 10,000 flights over a year, then the probability of the sample having a 50% delayed fraction is a different prospect altogether.



Oh sorry I forgot we were not on the BA board where my off topic ramblings are tolerated
My sample size is ~20 flights. Most delays were actually minor. I think the largest was 30min. But even without my "sample" I personally would still try to go for a slightly longer connection
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Old Sep 4, 2017, 2:21 pm
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Originally Posted by vonlance
Thanks Karfa,

I think i'll risk the 1.5hrs turnaround on the return journey if they will interline my bag.

i'm planning on hitting Tokyo and Osaka in 7 days so i'll be wiped out on the way back.
Don't forget that schedule changes happen and that changes below 2 hours don't allow you to get another flight time or destination for free with QR. Don't forget that delays can happen too.
As my credit card company only allow change fees reimbursements below a 4 hours delay I never risk an under 6 hours connection on separate tickets.
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Old Sep 4, 2017, 3:24 pm
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For anyone who missed the other thread, QR have extended their free hotel offer untill 31st December.
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