Jan 12, 2017, 2:31 pm
Last edit by: fbruno
Wiki Updated 2017-09-13 to include #610
QR fare rules for this one can be found here.
I have created a travel trips thread in the Japan forum. A good place to discuss hotels, trips, restaurants and maybe even arrange meet ups: The QR week(end) HND/NRT travel thread (2017)
Sorted by departure month:
November
Outbound
CPH-HND : 03/11/17 : denkigroove
LHR-HND : 03/11/17 : Cymro +1
BRU-NRT : 08/11/17 : mad_rich
AMS-NRT : 08.11.17 : jordie
AMS-HND : 13.11.17 UAPremierGuy
BRU-NRT : 15/11/17 : xtommox
AMS-HND : 15/11/17 : phoneticduck +1
AMS-NRT : 17/11/17 : polochick
BRU-NRT : 17/11/17 : Asserti+1 (DOH-NRT 18/11)
LHR-HND : 18/11/17 : justatourist
AMS-HND : 19/11/17 : Tennislover9
AMS-HND : 20.11.17 : travellingjake +2
LHR-NRT : 23/11/17 : Pilot37
LHR-HND : 23/11/17 : Carofos
AMS-NRT : 24/11/17 : island82
Inbound
HND-AMS : 05/11/17 : toastedcafe
HND-AMS : 11/11/17 : Cymro +1
NRT-AMS : 12.11.17 : jordie
HND-AMS : 19.11.17 : UAPremierGuy
HND-AMS : 21/11/17 : phoneticduck +1
NRT-BRU : 22/11/17 : mad_rich
NRT-BRU : 23/11/17 : Asserti+1 (DOH-BRU 25/11)
HND-AMS : 25/11/17 : denkigroove
HND-AMS : 26/11/17 : Tennislover9
HND-AMS : 26/11/17 : polochick
NRT-BRU : 26/11/17 : fbruno
HND-LHR : 27/11/17 : Pilot37
NRT-AMS : 28/11/17 : island82
NRT-BRU : 28/11/17 : xtommox
HND-LHR : 29/11/17 : Carofos
NRT-MAN : 30.11.17 : travellingjake +2
December
Outbound
BRU-HND : 04/12/17 : jlisi984 +2
AMS-NRT : 10/12/17 : NikaK +1
Inbound
NRT-AMS : 04/12/17 : justatourist
HND-AMS : 12/12/17 : jlisi984 +2
NRT-AMS : 14/12/17 : NikaK +1
QR fare rules for this one can be found here.
I have created a travel trips thread in the Japan forum. A good place to discuss hotels, trips, restaurants and maybe even arrange meet ups: The QR week(end) HND/NRT travel thread (2017)
Sorted by departure month:
November
Outbound
CPH-HND : 03/11/17 : denkigroove
LHR-HND : 03/11/17 : Cymro +1
BRU-NRT : 08/11/17 : mad_rich
AMS-NRT : 08.11.17 : jordie
AMS-HND : 13.11.17 UAPremierGuy
BRU-NRT : 15/11/17 : xtommox
AMS-HND : 15/11/17 : phoneticduck +1
AMS-NRT : 17/11/17 : polochick
BRU-NRT : 17/11/17 : Asserti+1 (DOH-NRT 18/11)
LHR-HND : 18/11/17 : justatourist
AMS-HND : 19/11/17 : Tennislover9
AMS-HND : 20.11.17 : travellingjake +2
LHR-NRT : 23/11/17 : Pilot37
LHR-HND : 23/11/17 : Carofos
AMS-NRT : 24/11/17 : island82
Inbound
HND-AMS : 05/11/17 : toastedcafe
HND-AMS : 11/11/17 : Cymro +1
NRT-AMS : 12.11.17 : jordie
HND-AMS : 19.11.17 : UAPremierGuy
HND-AMS : 21/11/17 : phoneticduck +1
NRT-BRU : 22/11/17 : mad_rich
NRT-BRU : 23/11/17 : Asserti+1 (DOH-BRU 25/11)
HND-AMS : 25/11/17 : denkigroove
HND-AMS : 26/11/17 : Tennislover9
HND-AMS : 26/11/17 : polochick
NRT-BRU : 26/11/17 : fbruno
HND-LHR : 27/11/17 : Pilot37
NRT-AMS : 28/11/17 : island82
NRT-BRU : 28/11/17 : xtommox
HND-LHR : 29/11/17 : Carofos
NRT-MAN : 30.11.17 : travellingjake +2
December
Outbound
BRU-HND : 04/12/17 : jlisi984 +2
AMS-NRT : 10/12/17 : NikaK +1
Inbound
NRT-AMS : 04/12/17 : justatourist
HND-AMS : 12/12/17 : jlisi984 +2
NRT-AMS : 14/12/17 : NikaK +1
The 'Sake Fare' Meet-Up Thread: AMS/BRU-DOH-TYO
Jul 25, 2017, 8:17 am
#511
Moderator: Qatar Airways
Original Poster
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: LHR/NCE/MIA
Programs: BAEC GfL & GGL, SQ Gold, Amex Centurion, Mucci des Chevaliers des Bons Mots et Qui Savent Moucher
Posts: 8,950
As such, and because QR do lurk on Flyertalk, perhaps converse on the wording through Private Messages opposed to within this thread.
M
Jul 27, 2017, 8:26 am
#512
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: OSL
Posts: 2,647
Thought I'd report back. I called back to change the outbound to LHR and at the same time enquired about changing the inbound - this person spoke to their supervisor (no blanket no) and they also agreed to change the return to LHR. Fairly happy with that and think excellent customer service from QR.
Jul 27, 2017, 1:44 pm
#513
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 87
That's great news DodgeFlyer!
I must have called 10 times now. Been very polite each time with the UK and Doha call centre numbers and am told "no" every time.
Why can't I find the right person to help?
I must have called 10 times now. Been very polite each time with the UK and Doha call centre numbers and am told "no" every time.
Why can't I find the right person to help?
Last edited by GBFlyer; Jul 27, 2017 at 3:44 pm
Jul 27, 2017, 11:36 pm
#514
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Netherlands
Posts: 4,287
It's fair to request for change of starting/ending point if that particular inbound/outbound was affected by time change, but to also request for the unaffected sectors to be changed for free is in my opinion just greed.
[saving the 60-70Euro/Pound positioning flight and some additional time]For those trying to dig more gold out of QR, please think about future super sale - they might base on past experience and unreasonable demand just from day 1 pull back these super sale issued tickets.
Cheers!
Jul 28, 2017, 2:23 am
#515
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 3,944
nldogbert thank you for your comments. they are much appreciated. It is about time the voice of reason was heard.
If you look at http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28465268-post905.html you will see 'Just imagine that QR did as you suggest and broke their own ticketing rules in 'special cases' it would be the 'thin end of the wedge'. When this crisis is over QR would be inundated with similar requests. Comments such as 'You did it for A and for B so you should do it for me. I am also a special case' 'You have made exceptions before, you can do it again' etc. would abound'. The crisis is not yet over and it is already happening!
If you look at http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28465268-post905.html you will see 'Just imagine that QR did as you suggest and broke their own ticketing rules in 'special cases' it would be the 'thin end of the wedge'. When this crisis is over QR would be inundated with similar requests. Comments such as 'You did it for A and for B so you should do it for me. I am also a special case' 'You have made exceptions before, you can do it again' etc. would abound'. The crisis is not yet over and it is already happening!
Jul 28, 2017, 7:29 am
#516
Join Date: Sep 2016
Posts: 776
I think it's totally fine to try getting the flights changed. Such a change could very well be beneficial for both sides. After all, QR must have more limited capacities on the remaining AMS-DOH flights.
I do however agree that a sense of entitlement is inappropriate. Either you are lucky and it succeeds, or it doesn't and that's just that.
I do however agree that a sense of entitlement is inappropriate. Either you are lucky and it succeeds, or it doesn't and that's just that.
Jul 28, 2017, 11:31 pm
#517
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Netherlands
Posts: 4,287
I agree to "try" is OK, but is 10x calling still a "try" 
For me a try is once, if it did not succeed for the portion that was not eligible (i.e > 2 hours change in schedule), than please don't ask for the sky, moon or stars...and if you not able to get it, apply the HUACA principle for such fares.
It already seems very generous of Qatar to not apply stricter rules to this particular ticket including situations where normal schedule changes can be applied and has been rather generous for those affected and even goes the extra step to allow the 500 miles radius change.
Please be sensible in dealing with this, a short term gain is a long term loss.
Cheers!
For me a try is once, if it did not succeed for the portion that was not eligible (i.e > 2 hours change in schedule), than please don't ask for the sky, moon or stars...and if you not able to get it, apply the HUACA principle for such fares. It already seems very generous of Qatar to not apply stricter rules to this particular ticket including situations where normal schedule changes can be applied and has been rather generous for those affected and even goes the extra step to allow the 500 miles radius change.
Please be sensible in dealing with this, a short term gain is a long term loss.
Cheers!
Jul 30, 2017, 2:42 am
#518
Join Date: Jan 2000
Programs: Latinpass Million Miler. BA Gold.
Posts: 3,544
I'm now on the last day of my sake trip, looking out over a hot river spring, and about to enjoy a Japanese meal.
It's been wonderful to visit Japan again on such a good deal. Thank you Qatar Airways.
It's been wonderful to visit Japan again on such a good deal. Thank you Qatar Airways.
Jul 30, 2017, 6:32 am
#519
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Glasgow, UK
Programs: Seigneur des Tarifs Utils First Class Mucci with Honours :) - BA GGL / CCR
Posts: 1,551
Here here. We loved our trip too. The Qatar service was eye opening and was brilliant
Jul 30, 2017, 6:35 am
#520
Ambassador, British Airways; FlyerTalk Posting Legend
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Leeds, UK
Programs: BA GGL/CCR, GfL, HH Diamond
Posts: 42,994
As a country Japan is certainly one of those that completely blew my mind when I went there for the first time in 2014. Have managed to go again since and my QR trip in September will be my third time so far.
Jul 30, 2017, 6:37 am
#521
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Glasgow, UK
Programs: Seigneur des Tarifs Utils First Class Mucci with Honours :) - BA GGL / CCR
Posts: 1,551
We would live to go back. Whenever we chat amongst friends they always say its one place they always wanted to visit but we actually did.
Would just need the QR service to keep us getting what we were used to lol
Jul 30, 2017, 3:33 pm
#522
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Dublin
Programs: BA Bronze! Avis PC
Posts: 312
I'd really appreciate if any of you who have already visited Japan would share your experience by maybe offering just one highlight or pearl of wisdom to the below thread
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/japan/1815444-qr-week-end-hnd-nrt-travel-thread-2017-a.html
You're experience could be invaluable to those of us who are yet to make the trip.
Thank you in advance for sharing.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/japan/1815444-qr-week-end-hnd-nrt-travel-thread-2017-a.html
You're experience could be invaluable to those of us who are yet to make the trip.
Thank you in advance for sharing.
Jul 30, 2017, 10:31 pm
#524
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 3,944
tennislover9 the noshow fees are a part of the fare rules and vary from origin to origin, ticket class to ticket class and from offer to offer and even from day to day so there are no standard fare rules. The fare rules for your reservation were sent to you as an attachment to your original booking confirmation and you need to examine them.
Jul 31, 2017, 5:54 am
#525
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: london
Programs: BA silver
Posts: 173
Brussels departures
Hello everyone
Been keeping tabs on this thread and also the new Q suite thread. Have we had any indication of changes to scheduled flights departing from Brussels in sept/Oct? I've held off from booking any positioning flights up until now and reading about the AMS changes makes me more inclined to hold off for longer.
Thanks
Been keeping tabs on this thread and also the new Q suite thread. Have we had any indication of changes to scheduled flights departing from Brussels in sept/Oct? I've held off from booking any positioning flights up until now and reading about the AMS changes makes me more inclined to hold off for longer.
Thanks