Last edit by: fbruno
Wiki Updated 2017-09-13 to include #610
QR fare rules for this one can be found here.
I have created a travel trips thread in the Japan forum. A good place to discuss hotels, trips, restaurants and maybe even arrange meet ups: The QR week(end) HND/NRT travel thread (2017)
Sorted by departure month:
November
Outbound
CPH-HND : 03/11/17 : denkigroove
LHR-HND : 03/11/17 : Cymro +1
BRU-NRT : 08/11/17 : mad_rich
AMS-NRT : 08.11.17 : jordie
AMS-HND : 13.11.17 UAPremierGuy
BRU-NRT : 15/11/17 : xtommox
AMS-HND : 15/11/17 : phoneticduck +1
AMS-NRT : 17/11/17 : polochick
BRU-NRT : 17/11/17 : Asserti+1 (DOH-NRT 18/11)
LHR-HND : 18/11/17 : justatourist
AMS-HND : 19/11/17 : Tennislover9
AMS-HND : 20.11.17 : travellingjake +2
LHR-NRT : 23/11/17 : Pilot37
LHR-HND : 23/11/17 : Carofos
AMS-NRT : 24/11/17 : island82
Inbound
HND-AMS : 05/11/17 : toastedcafe
HND-AMS : 11/11/17 : Cymro +1
NRT-AMS : 12.11.17 : jordie
HND-AMS : 19.11.17 : UAPremierGuy
HND-AMS : 21/11/17 : phoneticduck +1
NRT-BRU : 22/11/17 : mad_rich
NRT-BRU : 23/11/17 : Asserti+1 (DOH-BRU 25/11)
HND-AMS : 25/11/17 : denkigroove
HND-AMS : 26/11/17 : Tennislover9
HND-AMS : 26/11/17 : polochick
NRT-BRU : 26/11/17 : fbruno
HND-LHR : 27/11/17 : Pilot37
NRT-AMS : 28/11/17 : island82
NRT-BRU : 28/11/17 : xtommox
HND-LHR : 29/11/17 : Carofos
NRT-MAN : 30.11.17 : travellingjake +2
December
Outbound
BRU-HND : 04/12/17 : jlisi984 +2
AMS-NRT : 10/12/17 : NikaK +1
Inbound
NRT-AMS : 04/12/17 : justatourist
HND-AMS : 12/12/17 : jlisi984 +2
NRT-AMS : 14/12/17 : NikaK +1
QR fare rules for this one can be found here.
I have created a travel trips thread in the Japan forum. A good place to discuss hotels, trips, restaurants and maybe even arrange meet ups: The QR week(end) HND/NRT travel thread (2017)
Sorted by departure month:
November
Outbound
CPH-HND : 03/11/17 : denkigroove
LHR-HND : 03/11/17 : Cymro +1
BRU-NRT : 08/11/17 : mad_rich
AMS-NRT : 08.11.17 : jordie
AMS-HND : 13.11.17 UAPremierGuy
BRU-NRT : 15/11/17 : xtommox
AMS-HND : 15/11/17 : phoneticduck +1
AMS-NRT : 17/11/17 : polochick
BRU-NRT : 17/11/17 : Asserti+1 (DOH-NRT 18/11)
LHR-HND : 18/11/17 : justatourist
AMS-HND : 19/11/17 : Tennislover9
AMS-HND : 20.11.17 : travellingjake +2
LHR-NRT : 23/11/17 : Pilot37
LHR-HND : 23/11/17 : Carofos
AMS-NRT : 24/11/17 : island82
Inbound
HND-AMS : 05/11/17 : toastedcafe
HND-AMS : 11/11/17 : Cymro +1
NRT-AMS : 12.11.17 : jordie
HND-AMS : 19.11.17 : UAPremierGuy
HND-AMS : 21/11/17 : phoneticduck +1
NRT-BRU : 22/11/17 : mad_rich
NRT-BRU : 23/11/17 : Asserti+1 (DOH-BRU 25/11)
HND-AMS : 25/11/17 : denkigroove
HND-AMS : 26/11/17 : Tennislover9
HND-AMS : 26/11/17 : polochick
NRT-BRU : 26/11/17 : fbruno
HND-LHR : 27/11/17 : Pilot37
NRT-AMS : 28/11/17 : island82
NRT-BRU : 28/11/17 : xtommox
HND-LHR : 29/11/17 : Carofos
NRT-MAN : 30.11.17 : travellingjake +2
December
Outbound
BRU-HND : 04/12/17 : jlisi984 +2
AMS-NRT : 10/12/17 : NikaK +1
Inbound
NRT-AMS : 04/12/17 : justatourist
HND-AMS : 12/12/17 : jlisi984 +2
NRT-AMS : 14/12/17 : NikaK +1
The 'Sake Fare' Meet-Up Thread: AMS/BRU-DOH-TYO
#421
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: LHR
Programs: BAEC Gold
Posts: 135
Was anybody on the DOH - HND on Friday 7 July? I met a nice guy, who needed some help with getting the A350 rear camera to show up on his screen. Nice chat too, just wondering if he was a fellow flyertalk-er.
#423
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: London
Programs: BA Gold
Posts: 834
Hello all Sake folk! A few weeks ago I was really cheesed off because my husband decided he no longer wanted to travel on a 3 night trip to Japan for health reasons and his son was adamant we had to extend the trip for that reason as he'd not have enough time to recover from the flights before we came home - or he said he shouldn't go. .. anyways, this schedule change has been fantastic. I have not made any decisions yet but basically, my understanding from talking to an agent means we can pull trip forward by up to 7 days and extend by up to 7 days / plus I can route back into LHR ... and - I'm suspecting - route out of LHR - plus I can depart from HND instead of NRT (teppanyaki noodle bar in the JAL lounge I think?!) I can also split the ticket and cancel one seat. It's actually all quite a result on this fare. The only thing I cannot do is change the name on the ticket which is a shame but I get it!!
SO I have a few questions I wonder if some of you might be able to answer...
First consideration (as hubby is still wavering about whether he still wants to go - even if it's for longer) if I cancel his and extend mine, I could theoretically plan another tier point run while based out of Japan... (I basically will need 540 points to renew my gold at pretty much the start of my year... ) so I will have nearly £600 to put towards this venture! :-) Would anyone have any suggestions of any potential TP runs. I'd have no problem going somewhere warm for a few days!
Secondly, If we both go for longer, what would be an ideal time/schedule in mid/late Nov to enjoy the best of Japan ... and ideally what would be a good timescale to do it?
If anyone can confirm if there's any way to change a name on a ticket by escalating (I've evidence of my husband getting badly bloodshot eyes from flying (on three occasions recently) ... which is worrying him) - my dilemma is wanting to change schedule and go for longer but not on my own!
Actually .. another question... will they only be able to change the ticket to a flight with availability in 'Business Saver' ? or any fare class?
Any thoughts would be much appreciated.
CF
SO I have a few questions I wonder if some of you might be able to answer...
First consideration (as hubby is still wavering about whether he still wants to go - even if it's for longer) if I cancel his and extend mine, I could theoretically plan another tier point run while based out of Japan... (I basically will need 540 points to renew my gold at pretty much the start of my year... ) so I will have nearly £600 to put towards this venture! :-) Would anyone have any suggestions of any potential TP runs. I'd have no problem going somewhere warm for a few days!
Secondly, If we both go for longer, what would be an ideal time/schedule in mid/late Nov to enjoy the best of Japan ... and ideally what would be a good timescale to do it?
If anyone can confirm if there's any way to change a name on a ticket by escalating (I've evidence of my husband getting badly bloodshot eyes from flying (on three occasions recently) ... which is worrying him) - my dilemma is wanting to change schedule and go for longer but not on my own!
Actually .. another question... will they only be able to change the ticket to a flight with availability in 'Business Saver' ? or any fare class?
Any thoughts would be much appreciated.
CF
Last edited by CaroFos; Jul 14, 2017 at 12:49 pm Reason: adding in another question
#424
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: London
Posts: 17,007
Japan is not a particularly good place for a TP run I'm afraid, air fares tend to be high (which the exception of RTW tickets and oneworld circle tickets, but these are well out of that budget). The usual suspects over on the BA forum might have some ideas.
If you've not been to Japan before, it really is a great place to visit even without extra flying. For the time scale it is hard to say what you would like, it is a huge culture with a lot to explore.
Hope your husband is recuperating.
If you've not been to Japan before, it really is a great place to visit even without extra flying. For the time scale it is hard to say what you would like, it is a huge culture with a lot to explore.
Hope your husband is recuperating.
Last edited by Calchas; Jul 17, 2017 at 7:18 pm
#425
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Dublin
Programs: BA Bronze! Avis PC
Posts: 312
I was unexpectedly made redundant last week! Consequently I'll have plenty of time on my hands so I'm wondering if I could extend my trip in September. Anyone know what the repricing costs might be? Cheers.
Update: Apologies I've just found the link to the fare rules. Any other comments welcome
Update: Apologies I've just found the link to the fare rules. Any other comments welcome
Last edited by MM00LL2; Jul 18, 2017 at 4:30 am
#426
Ambassador, British Airways; FlyerTalk Posting Legend
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Leeds, UK
Programs: BA GGL/CCR, GfL, HH Diamond
Posts: 42,991
I was unexpectedly made redundant last week! Consequently I'll have plenty of time on my hands so I'm wondering if I could extend my trip in September. Anyone know what the repricing costs might be? Cheers.
Update: Apologies I've just found the link to the fare rules. Any other comments welcome
Update: Apologies I've just found the link to the fare rules. Any other comments welcome
Changes prior to departure result in a change fee and repricing - so it's not really advisable.
#427
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 3,944
MM00LL2 before the first flight on a reservation your ticket will be repriced at the fares valid for the day of repricing. Since you apparently have a cheap Sake fare this could be very expensive.
After the first flight fares are frozen as at the day of booking. The only possible reprice would be if the ticket class you originally booked is full or no longer exists for the new flight. Then you have to pay the fare difference up to the lowest available ticket class. Since this is based upon the original fares and it will be much smaller than the current fare difference.
But some promo fares do not permit changes!
This depends entirely on the fare rules attached to your ticket. These are specific to your reservation and were sent to you as an attachment to the first Booking Confirmation e-mail. Since they vary from origin to origin, ticketing class to ticketing class and for many promo fares from offer to offer thet are almost unique to your booking and the generic rules that CS have are useless to you.
There is also the matter of change fees which increase the less you paid for the tickets.
After the first flight fares are frozen as at the day of booking. The only possible reprice would be if the ticket class you originally booked is full or no longer exists for the new flight. Then you have to pay the fare difference up to the lowest available ticket class. Since this is based upon the original fares and it will be much smaller than the current fare difference.
But some promo fares do not permit changes!
This depends entirely on the fare rules attached to your ticket. These are specific to your reservation and were sent to you as an attachment to the first Booking Confirmation e-mail. Since they vary from origin to origin, ticketing class to ticketing class and for many promo fares from offer to offer thet are almost unique to your booking and the generic rules that CS have are useless to you.
There is also the matter of change fees which increase the less you paid for the tickets.
#428
Join Date: Jan 2000
Programs: Latinpass Million Miler. BA Gold.
Posts: 3,544
Hello all Sake folk! A few weeks ago I was really cheesed off because my husband decided he no longer wanted to travel on a 3 night trip to Japan for health reasons and his son was adamant we had to extend the trip for that reason as he'd not have enough time to recover from the flights before we came home - or he said he shouldn't go. .. anyways, this schedule change has been fantastic. I have not made any decisions yet but basically, my understanding from talking to an agent means we can pull trip forward by up to 7 days and extend by up to 7 days / plus I can route back into LHR ... and - I'm suspecting - route out of LHR - plus I can depart from HND instead of NRT (teppanyaki noodle bar in the JAL lounge I think?!) I can also split the ticket and cancel one seat. It's actually all quite a result on this fare. The only thing I cannot do is change the name on the ticket which is a shame but I get it!!
SO I have a few questions I wonder if some of you might be able to answer...
First consideration (as hubby is still wavering about whether he still wants to go - even if it's for longer) if I cancel his and extend mine, I could theoretically plan another tier point run while based out of Japan... (I basically will need 540 points to renew my gold at pretty much the start of my year... ) so I will have nearly £600 to put towards this venture! :-) Would anyone have any suggestions of any potential TP runs. I'd have no problem going somewhere warm for a few days!
Secondly, If we both go for longer, what would be an ideal time/schedule in mid/late Nov to enjoy the best of Japan ... and ideally what would be a good timescale to do it?
If anyone can confirm if there's any way to change a name on a ticket by escalating (I've evidence of my husband getting badly bloodshot eyes from flying (on three occasions recently) ... which is worrying him) - my dilemma is wanting to change schedule and go for longer but not on my own!
Actually .. another question... will they only be able to change the ticket to a flight with availability in 'Business Saver' ? or any fare class?
Any thoughts would be much appreciated.
CF
SO I have a few questions I wonder if some of you might be able to answer...
First consideration (as hubby is still wavering about whether he still wants to go - even if it's for longer) if I cancel his and extend mine, I could theoretically plan another tier point run while based out of Japan... (I basically will need 540 points to renew my gold at pretty much the start of my year... ) so I will have nearly £600 to put towards this venture! :-) Would anyone have any suggestions of any potential TP runs. I'd have no problem going somewhere warm for a few days!
Secondly, If we both go for longer, what would be an ideal time/schedule in mid/late Nov to enjoy the best of Japan ... and ideally what would be a good timescale to do it?
If anyone can confirm if there's any way to change a name on a ticket by escalating (I've evidence of my husband getting badly bloodshot eyes from flying (on three occasions recently) ... which is worrying him) - my dilemma is wanting to change schedule and go for longer but not on my own!
Actually .. another question... will they only be able to change the ticket to a flight with availability in 'Business Saver' ? or any fare class?
Any thoughts would be much appreciated.
CF
But while they changed my outbound to LHR (from AMS), they didn't want to change the inbound as well. ymmv of course.
#431
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: London
Programs: BA Gold, Subcard
Posts: 435
Myflights notified me of both AMS-DOH and DOH-AMS flights being changed/cancelled to earlier ones leading to me missing my positioning flights from LHR and longer connections.
I had to hold 55 minutes to get through to CS and thankfully it was a very good agent.
She changed my flights from:
AMS-DOH-HND-NGO-NRT-DOH-AMS
To:
LHR-DOH-NRT-NGO-HND-DOH-LHR with the Q Suite on both LHR flights.
Not a bad result ^
I had to hold 55 minutes to get through to CS and thankfully it was a very good agent.
She changed my flights from:
AMS-DOH-HND-NGO-NRT-DOH-AMS
To:
LHR-DOH-NRT-NGO-HND-DOH-LHR with the Q Suite on both LHR flights.
Not a bad result ^
#432
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: AMS
Programs: BAEC Silver, Flying Blue Gold, TK M&S Nobody
Posts: 2,483
Just got a myFlights alert for my September AMS-DOH leg - doesn't technically cause any issues but leaves be with a less than ideal 7h stop in DOH. Out and about in AMS right now and before I get the chance to check out the options on a desktop I thought I'd ask the group for suggestions as to what might be possible.
Very keen to try the Q-Suite, but only changing the outbound would leave me begging BA for some sympathy on the positioning flights... any chance they'd change both? And/or what are the odds on BA being nice...? What are the right things to say to QR/BA in this case...? [as the blurb should now say, I'm BA silver if that might help some]
Very keen to try the Q-Suite, but only changing the outbound would leave me begging BA for some sympathy on the positioning flights... any chance they'd change both? And/or what are the odds on BA being nice...? What are the right things to say to QR/BA in this case...? [as the blurb should now say, I'm BA silver if that might help some]
#433
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Trier, Germany
Programs: BA Gold (GGL+CCR)
Posts: 13
I just found out that my return flight has changed.
I am flying AMS-DOH-HND-DOH-AMS. The return flight is on the 3rd of October. I was booked on the QR 275 for the DOH-AMS leg with a connecting time of 09h20.
They now changed the second leg to QR 273 which will arrive in AMS much earlier. New connection time is 1h50.
Does anyone have an idea if there is a chance to get rebooked to LHR on the return flight (you are right - trying to get on the 777 with the Q-suites)? Sure, I will be in Amsterdam earlier. But anyway, I will not be able to spend some time in Doha ;-)
I am flying AMS-DOH-HND-DOH-AMS. The return flight is on the 3rd of October. I was booked on the QR 275 for the DOH-AMS leg with a connecting time of 09h20.
They now changed the second leg to QR 273 which will arrive in AMS much earlier. New connection time is 1h50.
Does anyone have an idea if there is a chance to get rebooked to LHR on the return flight (you are right - trying to get on the 777 with the Q-suites)? Sure, I will be in Amsterdam earlier. But anyway, I will not be able to spend some time in Doha ;-)
#434
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: AMS
Programs: BAEC Silver, Flying Blue Gold, TK M&S Nobody
Posts: 2,483
Just got a myFlights alert for my September AMS-DOH leg - doesn't technically cause any issues but leaves be with a less than ideal 7h stop in DOH. Out and about in AMS right now and before I get the chance to check out the options on a desktop I thought I'd ask the group for suggestions as to what might be possible.
Very keen to try the Q-Suite, but only changing the outbound would leave me begging BA for some sympathy on the positioning flights... any chance they'd change both? And/or what are the odds on BA being nice...? What are the right things to say to QR/BA in this case...? [as the blurb should now say, I'm BA silver if that might help some]
Very keen to try the Q-Suite, but only changing the outbound would leave me begging BA for some sympathy on the positioning flights... any chance they'd change both? And/or what are the odds on BA being nice...? What are the right things to say to QR/BA in this case...? [as the blurb should now say, I'm BA silver if that might help some]