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Old Jan 12, 2017, 2:31 pm
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QR fare rules for this one can be found here.

I have created a travel trips thread in the Japan forum. A good place to discuss hotels, trips, restaurants and maybe even arrange meet ups: The QR week(end) HND/NRT travel thread (2017)

Sorted by departure month:

November

Outbound
CPH-HND : 03/11/17 : denkigroove
LHR-HND : 03/11/17 : Cymro +1
BRU-NRT : 08/11/17 : mad_rich
AMS-NRT : 08.11.17 : jordie
AMS-HND : 13.11.17 UAPremierGuy
BRU-NRT : 15/11/17 : xtommox
AMS-HND : 15/11/17 : phoneticduck +1
AMS-NRT : 17/11/17 : polochick
BRU-NRT : 17/11/17 : Asserti+1 (DOH-NRT 18/11)
LHR-HND : 18/11/17 : justatourist
AMS-HND : 19/11/17 : Tennislover9
AMS-HND : 20.11.17 : travellingjake +2
LHR-NRT : 23/11/17 : Pilot37
LHR-HND : 23/11/17 : Carofos
AMS-NRT : 24/11/17 : island82


Inbound
HND-AMS : 05/11/17 : toastedcafe
HND-AMS : 11/11/17 : Cymro +1
NRT-AMS : 12.11.17 : jordie
HND-AMS : 19.11.17 : UAPremierGuy
HND-AMS : 21/11/17 : phoneticduck +1
NRT-BRU : 22/11/17 : mad_rich
NRT-BRU : 23/11/17 : Asserti+1 (DOH-BRU 25/11)
HND-AMS : 25/11/17 : denkigroove
HND-AMS : 26/11/17 : Tennislover9
HND-AMS : 26/11/17 : polochick
NRT-BRU : 26/11/17 : fbruno
HND-LHR : 27/11/17 : Pilot37
NRT-AMS : 28/11/17 : island82
NRT-BRU : 28/11/17 : xtommox
HND-LHR : 29/11/17 : Carofos
NRT-MAN : 30.11.17 : travellingjake +2


December

Outbound
BRU-HND : 04/12/17 : jlisi984 +2
AMS-NRT : 10/12/17 : NikaK +1

Inbound
NRT-AMS : 04/12/17 : justatourist
HND-AMS : 12/12/17 : jlisi984 +2
NRT-AMS : 14/12/17 : NikaK +1
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Old Jul 24, 2017, 8:23 am
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Originally Posted by armouredant
Another way of thinking about this exchange. Something like:

Qatar: "Hi. We've retimed your flights, bringing them forward by six hours."
FlyerTalker: "Well, I'm not going to be in Amsterdam at that time."
QR: "Oh. Where will you be?"
FT: "London. Can you pick me up there instead?"
QR: "Okay, fine."
Yes, this is what QR are doing. For those re-scheduled on AMS-DOH QR are allowing changes to start at LHR.
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Old Jul 24, 2017, 9:14 am
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Quite - a renegotiation of the contract between traveller and airline is triggered by the schedule change. Departing from London is one proposed solution to the renegotiation - departing and returning London is another.
You already completed your renegotiation by proposing a change to your origin and having QR accept it.
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Old Jul 24, 2017, 9:21 am
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Originally Posted by Calchas
You already completed your renegotiation by proposing a change to your origin and having QR accept it.
Indeed - because I was mislead by the phone agent as demonstrated by exeu2017.
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Old Jul 24, 2017, 9:30 am
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Originally Posted by etiene
Indeed - because I was mislead by the phone agent as demonstrated by exeu2017.
Misled how? QR will not re-book your inbound to a new destination due to a time change to your outbound - presumably this is what you were told by QR when you spoke to them? They will allow you to move the departure point for your outbound due to the 6 hr time change which is what you chose to do.

Perhaps someone got lucky and has managed to slip their change through, but you were correctly advised.

I appreciate you have a different view, but that is your view and not what QR will do (or indeed any other airline I know of would do).
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Old Jul 24, 2017, 2:50 pm
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HUACA is the way, took me 3 calls but I managed to change from AMS to LHR.
Thanks!
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Old Jul 24, 2017, 4:20 pm
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HUACA is the way, took me 3 calls but I managed to change from AMS to LHR.
Thanks!
Both ways?
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Old Jul 24, 2017, 5:23 pm
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Originally Posted by Calchas
Both ways?
Both ways. Also changed HND to NRT on the outbound.
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Old Jul 25, 2017, 2:42 am
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Originally Posted by xhemp
Both ways. Also changed HND to NRT on the outbound.
Nice work.
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Old Jul 25, 2017, 4:55 am
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I managed to change my return from NRT-DOH-AMS to HND-DOH-LHR; however they've given me the wrong date, principally because the two dates sound similar but also because the flight is now 00:01 - albeit I thought I had been very clear in what I asked for. I'm now waiting on the call being listened to for them to confirm agent error before correcting.... fingers crossed. If it works out, I'll be very pleased.
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Old Jul 25, 2017, 5:05 am
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Changes agreed
We were booked on the AMS-DOH-HND and we had the time change back to 1640hrs from 2235. I was away and only able to contact the UK number this morning but that did allow me to look at the excellent info and advice on FT.
Anyway- I called this morning and had about a 10 min wait and I asked for the change outbound to become EDI-DOH-NRT which the agent had a quick check with a supervisor and they are now both changed and tickets issued. This has been a help with reduced positioning and back to the short change at DOH and a better earlier arrival into NRT.

Thanks everyone as always !
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Old Jul 25, 2017, 5:46 am
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Pls change my flight from
AMS-HND : 04/11/17 : denkigroove
to
CPH-HND : 03/11/17 : denkigroove
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Old Jul 25, 2017, 6:30 am
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Forgive me... I'm having the same issues... just seeing is someone might be kind enough to allow me back to London too!

Can I ask... what is HUACA? Hemp you say HUACA is the way?

Thanks

Edit - Oh, I've worked it out... Hang Up An Call Again? I've tried 3 times - no joy - must have the language wrong!
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Old Jul 25, 2017, 7:14 am
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Originally Posted by GBFlyer
Forgive me... I'm having the same issues... just seeing is someone might be kind enough to allow me back to London too!

Can I ask... what is HUACA? Hemp you say HUACA is the way?

Thanks

Edit - Oh, I've worked it out... Hang Up An Call Again? I've tried 3 times - no joy - must have the language wrong!
Keep trying - and yes, HUACA is indeed as you have said.

FT has a wonderful Glossary of the abbreviations used, so it's worth a gander - http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/gloss...tterSelected=*

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Old Jul 25, 2017, 7:28 am
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Originally Posted by msm2000uk
Keep trying - and yes, HUACA is indeed as you have said.

FT has a wonderful Glossary of the abbreviations used, so it's worth a gander - http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/gloss...tterSelected=*

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Thanks MSM2000uk!

I did search the forums for the term - but then realised
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Old Jul 25, 2017, 8:14 am
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I don't suppose anyone wants to share the wording they used to get both outbound and inbound flights changed would they?

I totally appreciate Qatar don't need to offer that - but as some people have managed it, I'd love to know how!

Just had my 4th unsuccessful call.
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